Re: Updates caused problems...

2008-10-08 Thread Dan Thurman

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

If booting latest kernel: 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686 (or newer):

   - No Gui startup after udev
   - mkrootdev: could not determine nfs root target
   - mount: missing mount point
   - setuproot: moving /dev failed (No such file or directory)
  : error mounting /proc (No such file or directory)
  : error mounting /sys (No such file or directory)
  : error mounting /selinux (No such file or directory)
- switchroot: Mount failed
- system hangs


Thanks to the RH team for fixing the
above non-bootable kernel!

Note: The problem of the boot time GUI is not resolved
and it appears to be related to the latest xorg updates
and no fixes are known at this time, AFAIK.

For those of you who have encountered the unbootable
kernel with the "nfs root target" message,  here is what
you need to do:

Using your latest working bootable kernel:
===
1) rpm -e ltsp-client (or yum remove ltsp-client)
2) mkinitrd -f /boot/initrd-.img 

I have tested the above with kernel versions:
2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686
2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686

 and the problems disappears!

Note: I did not consciously install ltsp-client and
this must have been included in the updates AFTER
kernel-2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686.  Strangely, the problem
appeared only with kernels above: 2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686
which was installed/updated AFTER 2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686.
My guess is that initrd was (re)built when ltsp-client was
installed just before the new kernels were added.

Cheers!
Dan

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Re: Updates caused problems...

2008-10-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 10:55 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> I am not trying to discourage you from using Fedora. This list however
> does nothing to 'report' problems - that's what bugzilla is for.

Yes and no. The list is useful for saying "this doesn't work for me, has
anyone had this problem?". BZ is for reporting genuine bugs, preferably
once you've determined that they really are bugs.

It can be a fine line of course.

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Re: Updates caused problems...

2008-10-01 Thread Dan Thurman

Craig White wrote:


On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 10:38 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:

> Clearly:
>
> 1) Kernel 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686:
>  Does not work for two different motherboards/systems,
> nor for: Renich Bon Ciric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> so, I do not think this problem is `unique' to me.  This kernel
> is a show-stopper - so I have to revert to the previous kernel
> version for now and hope a later update will resolve this issue.
>
> 2) The startup Gui stopped working due to latest updates (as of last 
week)
>  and if this is `unique' to me, then I will just ignore this and 
*maybe*

>  later updates will automagically repair it - as it sits now, it is
> not a
>  show-stopper because ignoring the startup gui, in the end, the 
login

>  gui still appears.
>
> 3) The livna issue is a seperate issue - and is not a show-stopper 
as I have

> removed them (kmod/akmod) and I know I can at least let the livna
> group know about it.  It is obvious to me that kmod-ndiswarpper
> expects an older kernel (2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686) which is no longer
> available in the repos.  Many of the other kmods reported many
> other dependencies as well - so it appears that livna is `out of 
sync',

> perhaps but I will resolve this later - and focus on my main issues
> (1) and (2)
>
> Ignoring the Livna issue, (1) and (2) remains and is unique to Fedora
> since these kernels comes from the Fedora repos and has nothing to
> do with Livna (so I think).
>
> Are you are telling me (and others) to use Bugzilla and not to report
> individual problem issues here in this list because these are `unique'
> problems?  How does one know if they are unique problems before
> they post it?  And even if they are `unique' - what are they supposed
> to do?  What is the point of this mailing list with the following
> statement:
>
> "Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora"
>
> You come across as if to to say: "go to livna" and ignore the the other
> two problems reported altogether?
>
> This sort of reply does nothing to encourage people like myself to
> remain a faithful user to Fedora and I am almost beginning to see
> why, but I am not deterred - just a little bit disappointed.
>
> I would have at least expected a little direction as how to handle
> each of the problems reported, explain if there is a problem or not,
> perhaps a link, perhaps what to report, with what expected information,
> etc, so that at least I am not left perplexed as to what I really 
need to do

> next.

OK - I too will ignore the livna items

I think you can lean on the list all you wish. In fact, you seem to lean
on the list excessively but as long as people can and will help you out,
that's great.

I am not trying to discourage you from using Fedora. This list however
does nothing to 'report' problems - that's what bugzilla is for.

Craig


Thank you for letting me know how you feel.  Perhaps I do lean on this
list for the reasons stated (1) to discover if the problem reported has 
already

been reported and/or there is a fix and/or someone is working on it and
(2) to let anyone know about it so they can benefit from the posting if it
concerns them.  I know that many have responded asking for details
especially if the problem has been resolved by me or if others have
resolved it - a networked community helping each other out which
is the benefit of using this list in the first place.  IMO, there are a few
people esp. newbies,  go to a Bugzilla site to search for answers to
their specific problems - simply because - it is not that simple to find
so this mailing list provides them that "forum" where they can ask
about it and hopefully someone might know, and help out.

I have been resistant to using Bugzilla because it is a pain for me since
I use it so rarely and trying to fill in the fields for which I have not 
a clue

such as to what product/component the product/issue involves,  what
relevant data to provide which requires an intimate technical detail
level that a professional Fedora expert might know which can be beyond
a (semi) newbie's depth. But, I will try with each passing day to `get
used to it' and maybe it will become easier over time.

Kind regards,
Dan

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Re: Updates caused problems...

2008-10-01 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 10:38 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:

> Clearly:
> 
> 1) Kernel 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686:
>  Does not work for two different motherboards/systems,
> nor for: Renich Bon Ciric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> so, I do not think this problem is `unique' to me.  This kernel
> is a show-stopper - so I have to revert to the previous kernel
> version for now and hope a later update will resolve this issue.
> 
> 2) The startup Gui stopped working due to latest updates (as of last week)
>  and if this is `unique' to me, then I will just ignore this and *maybe*
>  later updates will automagically repair it - as it sits now, it is 
> not a
>  show-stopper because ignoring the startup gui, in the end, the login
>  gui still appears.
> 
> 3) The livna issue is a seperate issue - and is not a show-stopper as I have
> removed them (kmod/akmod) and I know I can at least let the livna
> group know about it.  It is obvious to me that kmod-ndiswarpper
> expects an older kernel (2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686) which is no longer
> available in the repos.  Many of the other kmods reported many
> other dependencies as well - so it appears that livna is `out of sync',
> perhaps but I will resolve this later - and focus on my main issues
> (1) and (2)
> 
> Ignoring the Livna issue, (1) and (2) remains and is unique to Fedora
> since these kernels comes from the Fedora repos and has nothing to
> do with Livna (so I think).
> 
> Are you are telling me (and others) to use Bugzilla and not to report
> individual problem issues here in this list because these are `unique'
> problems?  How does one know if they are unique problems before
> they post it?  And even if they are `unique' - what are they supposed
> to do?  What is the point of this mailing list with the following
> statement:
> 
> "Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora"
> 
> You come across as if to to say: "go to livna" and ignore the the other
> two problems reported altogether?
> 
> This sort of reply does nothing to encourage people like myself to
> remain a faithful user to Fedora and I am almost beginning to see
> why, but I am not deterred - just a little bit disappointed.
> 
> I would have at least expected a little direction as how to handle
> each of the problems reported, explain if there is a problem or not,
> perhaps a link, perhaps what to report, with what expected information,
> etc, so that at least I am not left perplexed as to what I really need to do
> next.

OK - I too will ignore the livna items

I think you can lean on the list all you wish. In fact, you seem to lean
on the list excessively but as long as people can and will help you out,
that's great.

I am not trying to discourage you from using Fedora. This list however
does nothing to 'report' problems - that's what bugzilla is for.

Craig

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Re: Updates caused problems...

2008-10-01 Thread Dan Thurman

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 09:40 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
> What has changed?  I mean, if there is a new list (I noticed that this
> list no longer says: For Fedora Users", where has this list moved to
> so that I can get a more technical level of support?

The only thing that has changed is the name (also I think the list
owners, but that's administrivia).

poc


Thank you for being helpful!  So, this list has not really
changed and I can assume that this is the right list for me
in terms of reporting potential problem/issue as if for
confirmation, before going off and filing off false problem
reports into Bugzilla.

Dan

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Re: Updates caused problems...

2008-10-01 Thread Dan Thurman

Craig White wrote:


On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 09:24 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
> Antonio M wrote:
> >
> > 2008/9/29 Renich Bon Ciric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 08:11 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
> > >> 1) ASUS P5GC-MX/1333
> > >>
> > >> (a) If booting latest kernel: 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686:
> > >>
> > >>- No Gui startup after udev
> > >>- mkrootdev: could not determine nfs root target
> > >>- mount: missing mount point
> > >>- setuproot: moving /dev failed (No such file or directory)
> > >>   : error mounting /proc (No such file or directory)
> > >>   : error mounting /sys (No such file or directory)
> > >>   : error mounting /selinux (No such file or 
directory)

> > >> - switchroot: Mount failed
> > >> - system hangs
> > >
> > > I had this same problem... changed to mandriva for the moment.
> > >
> >
> > did you file a bug???
> >
> No.  I would even know how to report this and what I need
> to provide exactly that would aide in getting this issue resolved.
>
> I have removed and reinstalled the latest kernel (2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686)
> and it still hangs.  I cannot use it and I am forced to use the 
previous

> kernel (2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686)
>
> I have removed akmod and kmod, disabled livna, rebooted and 
interestingly
> the kmod warnings no longer appear during bootup and so it appears 
to have

> nothing to do with corrupting the startup gui, so it appears to be a
> seperate issue.
> Also, interestingly, I cannot reinstall akmod/kmod (with livna 
disabled)

> because akmod/kmod are not available with the fedora-only repos.
>
> So, I re-enabled the livna repos, attempted to reinstall akmod/kmod and
> I get
> for every kmod module, errors similar to the following:
>
> Error: Missing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686 is 
needed
> by package kmod-ndiswrapper-2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686-1.52-31.lvn9.i686 
(livna)

>
> Finally, the startup gui is still a very big annoyance for both
> kernels esp. with my less-experienced fedora users.
>
> When will someone acknowledge if this is bug or not? Only one
> person acknowledged he had a problem as well as I.
>
> I have already listed the specific motherboards in this posting and
> it has been a little more than a week with no resolution at this time.

The list provides community assistance when / where possible. It's a
great place for what often proves to be less than fully qualified help.

Bugzilla provides interaction with the Fedora developers/packagers. It's
the perfect place for qualified help.

Livna has their own support (Bugzilla)
http://rpm.livna.org/rlowiki/Bugzilla

It seems that if a number of other people on this list aren't
experiencing the same problems as you, the problems are somewhat unique
to you and the list may not be capable of providing the assistance that
you need.

Craig


Clearly:

1) Kernel 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686:
Does not work for two different motherboards/systems,
   nor for: Renich Bon Ciric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   so, I do not think this problem is `unique' to me.  This kernel
   is a show-stopper - so I have to revert to the previous kernel
   version for now and hope a later update will resolve this issue.

2) The startup Gui stopped working due to latest updates (as of last week)
and if this is `unique' to me, then I will just ignore this and *maybe*
later updates will automagically repair it - as it sits now, it is 
not a

show-stopper because ignoring the startup gui, in the end, the login
gui still appears.

3) The livna issue is a seperate issue - and is not a show-stopper as I have
   removed them (kmod/akmod) and I know I can at least let the livna
   group know about it.  It is obvious to me that kmod-ndiswarpper
   expects an older kernel (2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686) which is no longer
   available in the repos.  Many of the other kmods reported many
   other dependencies as well - so it appears that livna is `out of sync',
   perhaps but I will resolve this later - and focus on my main issues
   (1) and (2)

Ignoring the Livna issue, (1) and (2) remains and is unique to Fedora
since these kernels comes from the Fedora repos and has nothing to
do with Livna (so I think).

Are you are telling me (and others) to use Bugzilla and not to report
individual problem issues here in this list because these are `unique'
problems?  How does one know if they are unique problems before
they post it?  And even if they are `unique' - what are they supposed
to do?  What is the point of this mailing list with the following
statement:

"Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora"

You come across as if to to say: "go to livna" and ignore the the other
two problems reported altogether?

This sort of reply does nothing to encourage people like myself to
remain a faithful user to Fedora and I am almost beginning to see
why, but I am not deterred - just a little bit disappointed.

I would have at least expected a little direction as h

Re: Updates caused problems...

2008-10-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 09:40 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
> What has changed?  I mean, if there is a new list (I noticed that this
> list no longer says: For Fedora Users", where has this list moved to
> so that I can get a more technical level of support?

The only thing that has changed is the name (also I think the list
owners, but that's administrivia).

poc

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Re: Updates caused problems...

2008-10-01 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 09:48 -0700, Fred Silsbee wrote:
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > The list provides community assistance when / where
> > possible. It's a
> > great place for what often proves to be less than fully
> > qualified help.
> > 
> > Bugzilla provides interaction with the Fedora
> > developers/packagers. It's
> > the perfect place for qualified help.
> > 
> > Livna has their own support (Bugzilla)
> > http://rpm.livna.org/rlowiki/Bugzilla
> > 
> > It seems that if a number of other people on this list
> > aren't
> > experiencing the same problems as you, the problems are
> > somewhat unique
> > to you and the list may not be capable of providing the
> > assistance that
> > you need.
> > 
> > Craig
> > 
> > -- 
> 
> I am not a heavy Linux sys admin but I have never had any luck with Linux 
> updates like Fn to (Fn+1)
> 
> sooner or later something happens requiring a heavy research project!
> 
> Now I save all files I need and load Fedora (n+1) from DVD.
> 
> Sure I should have done a
> 
> rpmyumsxx -1234 /rtter /dodad/honky tonk blah blah -crunch
> 
> and then figure out why that didn't work!
> 
> Linux should NOT be a mountain of complexity for those who admire/worship 
> complexity.
> 
> I have far more than enough complexity in programming subjects. 
> 
> Remember, we are defeating Vista and XP Prof and need to make things simple 
> for newbies.
> 
> THEN maybe we'll have another 14,000 Munich computer switch to Linux!

1 - you are bringing in an issue separate from the OP

2 - many of us have had no problems updating from release to release but
yes, a clean install is clearly easier for the less than technically
inclined. I think Ubuntu is intended to be the release for the
non-inclined/less technical users.

3 - Fedora is not intended to replace Windows on anything and I have yet
to see that to be a stated goal for Fedora. While Fedora tries to make
things simpler, it's not a primary objective. 

I think you need to review the 'overview' page for Fedora...

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview

The primary objective...the first sentence. "Fedora is all about freedom
and rapid innovation."

Rapid innovation, not making a platform to easily create Windows
converts.

Craig

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Re: Updates caused problems...

2008-10-01 Thread Fred Silsbee



--- On Wed, 10/1/08, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Updates caused problems...
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for 
> using Fedora." 
> Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 4:35 PM
> On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 09:24 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
> > Antonio M wrote:
> > >
> > > 2008/9/29 Renich Bon Ciric
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 08:11 -0700, Dan
> Thurman wrote:
> > > >> 1) ASUS P5GC-MX/1333
> > > >>
> > > >> (a) If booting latest kernel:
> 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686:
> > > >>
> > > >>- No Gui startup after udev
> > > >>- mkrootdev: could not determine nfs
> root target
> > > >>- mount: missing mount point
> > > >>- setuproot: moving /dev failed (No
> such file or directory)
> > > >>   : error mounting /proc (No
> such file or directory)
> > > >>   : error mounting /sys (No
> such file or directory)
> > > >>   : error mounting /selinux
> (No such file or directory)
> > > >> - switchroot: Mount failed
> > > >> - system hangs
> > > >
> > > > I had this same problem... changed to
> mandriva for the moment.
> > > > 
> > >
> > > did you file a bug???
> > >
> > No.  I would even know how to report this and what I
> need
> > to provide exactly that would aide in getting this
> issue resolved.
> > 
> > I have removed and reinstalled the latest kernel
> (2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686)
> > and it still hangs.  I cannot use it and I am forced
> to use the previous
> > kernel (2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686)
> > 
> > I have removed akmod and kmod, disabled livna,
> rebooted and interestingly
> > the kmod warnings no longer appear during bootup and
> so it appears to have
> > nothing to do with corrupting the startup gui, so it
> appears to be a 
> > seperate issue.
> > Also, interestingly, I cannot reinstall akmod/kmod
> (with livna disabled)
> > because akmod/kmod are not available with the
> fedora-only repos.
> > 
> > So, I re-enabled the livna repos, attempted to
> reinstall akmod/kmod and 
> > I get
> > for every kmod module, errors similar to the
> following:
> > 
> > Error: Missing Dependency: kernel-uname-r =
> 2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686 is needed
> > by package
> kmod-ndiswrapper-2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686-1.52-31.lvn9.i686
> (livna)
> > 
> > Finally, the startup gui is still a very big annoyance
> for both
> > kernels esp. with my less-experienced fedora users.
> > 
> > When will someone acknowledge if this is bug or not?
> Only one
> > person acknowledged he had a problem as well as I.
> > 
> > I have already listed the specific motherboards in
> this posting and
> > it has been a little more than a week with no
> resolution at this time.
> 
> The list provides community assistance when / where
> possible. It's a
> great place for what often proves to be less than fully
> qualified help.
> 
> Bugzilla provides interaction with the Fedora
> developers/packagers. It's
> the perfect place for qualified help.
> 
> Livna has their own support (Bugzilla)
> http://rpm.livna.org/rlowiki/Bugzilla
> 
> It seems that if a number of other people on this list
> aren't
> experiencing the same problems as you, the problems are
> somewhat unique
> to you and the list may not be capable of providing the
> assistance that
> you need.
> 
> Craig
> 
> -- 

I am not a heavy Linux sys admin but I have never had any luck with Linux 
updates like Fn to (Fn+1)

sooner or later something happens requiring a heavy research project!

Now I save all files I need and load Fedora (n+1) from DVD.

Sure I should have done a

rpmyumsxx -1234 /rtter /dodad/honky tonk blah blah -crunch

and then figure out why that didn't work!

Linux should NOT be a mountain of complexity for those who admire/worship 
complexity.

I have far more than enough complexity in programming subjects. 

Remember, we are defeating Vista and XP Prof and need to make things simple for 
newbies.

THEN maybe we'll have another 14,000 Munich computer switch to Linux!

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Re: Updates caused problems...

2008-10-01 Thread Dan Thurman

Craig White wrote:


On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 09:24 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
> Antonio M wrote:
> >
> > 2008/9/29 Renich Bon Ciric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 08:11 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
> > >> 1) ASUS P5GC-MX/1333
> > >>
> > >> (a) If booting latest kernel: 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686:
> > >>
> > >>- No Gui startup after udev
> > >>- mkrootdev: could not determine nfs root target
> > >>- mount: missing mount point
> > >>- setuproot: moving /dev failed (No such file or directory)
> > >>   : error mounting /proc (No such file or directory)
> > >>   : error mounting /sys (No such file or directory)
> > >>   : error mounting /selinux (No such file or 
directory)

> > >> - switchroot: Mount failed
> > >> - system hangs
> > >
> > > I had this same problem... changed to mandriva for the moment.
> > >
> >
> > did you file a bug???
> >
> No.  I would even know how to report this and what I need
> to provide exactly that would aide in getting this issue resolved.
>
> I have removed and reinstalled the latest kernel (2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686)
> and it still hangs.  I cannot use it and I am forced to use the 
previous

> kernel (2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686)
>
> I have removed akmod and kmod, disabled livna, rebooted and 
interestingly
> the kmod warnings no longer appear during bootup and so it appears 
to have

> nothing to do with corrupting the startup gui, so it appears to be a
> seperate issue.
> Also, interestingly, I cannot reinstall akmod/kmod (with livna 
disabled)

> because akmod/kmod are not available with the fedora-only repos.
>
> So, I re-enabled the livna repos, attempted to reinstall akmod/kmod and
> I get
> for every kmod module, errors similar to the following:
>
> Error: Missing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686 is 
needed
> by package kmod-ndiswrapper-2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686-1.52-31.lvn9.i686 
(livna)

>
> Finally, the startup gui is still a very big annoyance for both
> kernels esp. with my less-experienced fedora users.
>
> When will someone acknowledge if this is bug or not? Only one
> person acknowledged he had a problem as well as I.
>
> I have already listed the specific motherboards in this posting and
> it has been a little more than a week with no resolution at this time.

The list provides community assistance when / where possible. It's a
great place for what often proves to be less than fully qualified help.

Bugzilla provides interaction with the Fedora developers/packagers. It's
the perfect place for qualified help.

Livna has their own support (Bugzilla)
http://rpm.livna.org/rlowiki/Bugzilla

It seems that if a number of other people on this list aren't
experiencing the same problems as you, the problems are somewhat unique
to you and the list may not be capable of providing the assistance that
you need.

Craig


What has changed?  I mean, if there is a new list (I noticed that this
list no longer says: For Fedora Users", where has this list moved to
so that I can get a more technical level of support?

Thanks!
Dan

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Re: Updates caused problems...

2008-10-01 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 09:24 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
> Antonio M wrote:
> >
> > 2008/9/29 Renich Bon Ciric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 08:11 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
> > >> 1) ASUS P5GC-MX/1333
> > >>
> > >> (a) If booting latest kernel: 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686:
> > >>
> > >>- No Gui startup after udev
> > >>- mkrootdev: could not determine nfs root target
> > >>- mount: missing mount point
> > >>- setuproot: moving /dev failed (No such file or directory)
> > >>   : error mounting /proc (No such file or directory)
> > >>   : error mounting /sys (No such file or directory)
> > >>   : error mounting /selinux (No such file or directory)
> > >> - switchroot: Mount failed
> > >> - system hangs
> > >
> > > I had this same problem... changed to mandriva for the moment.
> > > 
> >
> > did you file a bug???
> >
> No.  I would even know how to report this and what I need
> to provide exactly that would aide in getting this issue resolved.
> 
> I have removed and reinstalled the latest kernel (2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686)
> and it still hangs.  I cannot use it and I am forced to use the previous
> kernel (2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686)
> 
> I have removed akmod and kmod, disabled livna, rebooted and interestingly
> the kmod warnings no longer appear during bootup and so it appears to have
> nothing to do with corrupting the startup gui, so it appears to be a 
> seperate issue.
> Also, interestingly, I cannot reinstall akmod/kmod (with livna disabled)
> because akmod/kmod are not available with the fedora-only repos.
> 
> So, I re-enabled the livna repos, attempted to reinstall akmod/kmod and 
> I get
> for every kmod module, errors similar to the following:
> 
> Error: Missing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686 is needed
> by package kmod-ndiswrapper-2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686-1.52-31.lvn9.i686 (livna)
> 
> Finally, the startup gui is still a very big annoyance for both
> kernels esp. with my less-experienced fedora users.
> 
> When will someone acknowledge if this is bug or not? Only one
> person acknowledged he had a problem as well as I.
> 
> I have already listed the specific motherboards in this posting and
> it has been a little more than a week with no resolution at this time.

The list provides community assistance when / where possible. It's a
great place for what often proves to be less than fully qualified help.

Bugzilla provides interaction with the Fedora developers/packagers. It's
the perfect place for qualified help.

Livna has their own support (Bugzilla)
http://rpm.livna.org/rlowiki/Bugzilla

It seems that if a number of other people on this list aren't
experiencing the same problems as you, the problems are somewhat unique
to you and the list may not be capable of providing the assistance that
you need.

Craig

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Re: Updates caused problems...

2008-10-01 Thread Dan Thurman

Antonio M wrote:


2008/9/29 Renich Bon Ciric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 08:11 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
>> 1) ASUS P5GC-MX/1333
>>
>> (a) If booting latest kernel: 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686:
>>
>>- No Gui startup after udev
>>- mkrootdev: could not determine nfs root target
>>- mount: missing mount point
>>- setuproot: moving /dev failed (No such file or directory)
>>   : error mounting /proc (No such file or directory)
>>   : error mounting /sys (No such file or directory)
>>   : error mounting /selinux (No such file or directory)
>> - switchroot: Mount failed
>> - system hangs
>
> I had this same problem... changed to mandriva for the moment.
> 


did you file a bug???


No.  I would even know how to report this and what I need
to provide exactly that would aide in getting this issue resolved.

I have removed and reinstalled the latest kernel (2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686)
and it still hangs.  I cannot use it and I am forced to use the previous
kernel (2.6.25.14-108.f9.i686)

I have removed akmod and kmod, disabled livna, rebooted and interestingly
the kmod warnings no longer appear during bootup and so it appears to have
nothing to do with corrupting the startup gui, so it appears to be a 
seperate issue.

Also, interestingly, I cannot reinstall akmod/kmod (with livna disabled)
because akmod/kmod are not available with the fedora-only repos.

So, I re-enabled the livna repos, attempted to reinstall akmod/kmod and 
I get

for every kmod module, errors similar to the following:

Error: Missing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686 is needed
by package kmod-ndiswrapper-2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686-1.52-31.lvn9.i686 (livna)

Finally, the startup gui is still a very big annoyance for both
kernels esp. with my less-experienced fedora users.

When will someone acknowledge if this is bug or not? Only one
person acknowledged he had a problem as well as I.

I have already listed the specific motherboards in this posting and
it has been a little more than a week with no resolution at this time.

Thanks!
Dan

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Re: Updates caused problems...

2008-09-29 Thread Antonio M
2008/9/29 Renich Bon Ciric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 08:11 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
>> 1) ASUS P5GC-MX/1333
>>
>> (a) If booting latest kernel: 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686:
>>
>>- No Gui startup after udev
>>- mkrootdev: could not determine nfs root target
>>- mount: missing mount point
>>- setuproot: moving /dev failed (No such file or directory)
>>   : error mounting /proc (No such file or directory)
>>   : error mounting /sys (No such file or directory)
>>   : error mounting /selinux (No such file or directory)
>> - switchroot: Mount failed
>> - system hangs
>
> I had this same problem... changed to mandriva for the moment.
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did you file a bug???

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Re: Updates caused problems...

2008-09-29 Thread Renich Bon Ciric
On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 08:11 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
> 1) ASUS P5GC-MX/1333
> 
> (a) If booting latest kernel: 2.6.26.3-29.f9.i686:
> 
>- No Gui startup after udev
>- mkrootdev: could not determine nfs root target
>- mount: missing mount point
>- setuproot: moving /dev failed (No such file or directory)
>   : error mounting /proc (No such file or directory)
>   : error mounting /sys (No such file or directory)
>   : error mounting /selinux (No such file or directory)
> - switchroot: Mount failed
> - system hangs

I had this same problem... changed to mandriva for the moment.
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