Re: SSD partitioning

2008-07-24 Thread Chris Snook

max bianco wrote:

2008/7/22 Rich Emberson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

For a non-laptop machine with the following target
characteristics: energy efficient, non-gaming, powerful
and fast; should SSDs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive)
be used and, if so, how? SSD have very fast seek times and
can have fast read speeds (http://www.datamarck.com/benchmarks).

Specifically, what directories ought to be allocated to
the SSD drives?


Are you combining a SSD with a regular old HDD? That's what it sounds
like. Is there going to be any real performance benefit here? If you
have one 7200 rpm and one 1rpm, AFAIK you'll be limited to the
7200 speed. You can only go as fast as your slowest man. Is that not
true with SSD? Can you in fact combine them with regular drives
without sacrificing performance?


-Max


If you're doing RAID, you'll get the slowest speed, but that's not what 
he's talking about.  If you put your random-access data on a small, 
expensive, low-latency device, be it SSD or high-end disk, and put your 
sequential-access data on a large, cheap, high-latency disk, it'll 
perform quite nicely, because the sequential access pattern hides the 
latency of the slow disk quite well.  This is why high-end streaming 
media servers use 7200 RPM SATA drives, even though everything else in 
the data center is using SAS or Fibre Channel storage.


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Re: SSD partitioning

2008-07-23 Thread Chris Snook

Rich Emberson wrote:

For a non-laptop machine with the following target
characteristics: energy efficient, non-gaming, powerful
and fast; should SSDs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive)
be used and, if so, how? SSD have very fast seek times and
can have fast read speeds (http://www.datamarck.com/benchmarks).

Specifically, what directories ought to be allocated to
the SSD drives?
Boot (/boot)?
All of the bin directories (/bin, /usr/bin, etc. since
these are mostly read-only and are used alot)?
Lib directories (/lib, /usr/lib, etc.) ?

If you are running a database, should at least the index tables
be mapped to an SSD? Some of the main tables maybe too big for
the current generation ($$) of SSDs.

RME



SSDs are great at everything except small writes, because you have to re-write 
an entire 128k block just to set a single 0 bit to a 1 within that block.  The 
new high-capacity Multi-Layer Cell drives are much slower at writes than the 
more expensive Single-Layer Cell drives, though this is expected to change in 
the near future as the technology matures.


For desktop use, SSDs are great on Linux.  For your database, as long as you 
don't have a lot of small updates going to the SSD, you should be fine.  For 
example, if you have an index that's keyed on something that changes very 
rarely, and you put that on the SSD, it'll perform very well even if some of the 
contents of the records themselves (stored on magnetic disk) change frequently.


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Re: SSD partitioning

2008-07-23 Thread max bianco
2008/7/22 Rich Emberson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 For a non-laptop machine with the following target
 characteristics: energy efficient, non-gaming, powerful
 and fast; should SSDs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive)
 be used and, if so, how? SSD have very fast seek times and
 can have fast read speeds (http://www.datamarck.com/benchmarks).

 Specifically, what directories ought to be allocated to
 the SSD drives?

Are you combining a SSD with a regular old HDD? That's what it sounds
like. Is there going to be any real performance benefit here? If you
have one 7200 rpm and one 1rpm, AFAIK you'll be limited to the
7200 speed. You can only go as fast as your slowest man. Is that not
true with SSD? Can you in fact combine them with regular drives
without sacrificing performance?


-Max


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SSD partitioning

2008-07-22 Thread Rich Emberson
For a non-laptop machine with the following target
characteristics: energy efficient, non-gaming, powerful
and fast; should SSDs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive)
be used and, if so, how? SSD have very fast seek times and
can have fast read speeds (http://www.datamarck.com/benchmarks).

Specifically, what directories ought to be allocated to
the SSD drives?
Boot (/boot)?
All of the bin directories (/bin, /usr/bin, etc. since
these are mostly read-only and are used alot)?
Lib directories (/lib, /usr/lib, etc.) ?

If you are running a database, should at least the index tables
be mapped to an SSD? Some of the main tables maybe too big for
the current generation ($$) of SSDs.

RME
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