Re: screensaver vs dpms

2010-01-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 10:25:00 -0800
jackson byers wrote:

> Do you have any more info as to just how in your case
> xset dpms was fighting with gnome power manager?

As near as I can tell the gnome power manager and gnome
screensaver implement some kind of gnome specific replacement
for the low level "xset" type operations, yet they don't
bother disabling the low level xset settings even when they
conflict with the gnome settings, so you wind up with both of
them taking effect at unexpected times. There have also
been a fantastic number of bugs with the gnome power
manager which would do things like trigger screen
blanking even though you just typed something about 3
seconds ago (even if you thought you had disabled
the gnome power manager). I tend to yum erase
gnome-power-manager these days and add startup entries
to run xset commands to get more reliable screen
blanking when I actually expect it to happen.

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Re: screensaver vs dpms

2010-01-02 Thread jackson byers
jackson byers wrote
>>  $ uname -r
>>  2.6.30.9-102.fc11.i686.PAE

>>  In my system, the screensaver  (blanking the screen)
>>  seems to be working as expected.


>>  But, I am also experiencing occasional
>>  dpms-like  "suspend"  blanking,
>>  (I am sure it is "suspend" and not "standby")
>>  which I don't want, and worse, I can't find out what is
>>  causing this response.

>>  I don't have an xorg.conf, and would rather keep it that way.

>>  If I get out of X  via ctl-alt-bs,
>>  and then  back in via startx,
>>  then
>>  xset q shows  standby, suspend, off all at 0, ie disabled.

>>  So what else in f11 can be exciting that  "suspend"?

>>  I have done some googling, but no help so far.

>>  Are there F11 guidelines for using both screensaver and dpms?

tom horsley wrote
> Try "man xset" there is also a dpms option (and I've often
> noticed it fighting with gnome power manager).

yes, I have tried the xset dpms flags option
eg. 'xset dpms 1201 1801 2401'

and these stay set until i reboot or kill X
but I _think_  I have seen a stray "dpms-like suspend" occur
at least once even with those settings.
So it still looks to me like some other system control.

I am using gnome; so maybe gnome power manager
is doing something here.
My system is a desktop not laptop.

Do you have any more info as to just how in your case
xset dpms was fighting with gnome power manager?

Jack

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Re: screensaver vs dpms

2010-01-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 10:46:26 -0800
jackson byers wrote:

> xset q shows  standby, suspend, off all at 0, ie disabled.

Try "man xset" there is also a dpms option (and I've often
noticed it fighting with gnome power manager).

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screensaver vs dpms

2010-01-01 Thread jackson byers
$ uname -r
2.6.30.9-102.fc11.i686.PAE

In my system, the screensaver  (blanking the screen)
seems to be working as expected.


But, I am also experiencing occasional
dpms-like  "suspend"  blanking,
(I am sure it is "suspend" and not "standby")
which
I don't want, and worse, I can't find out what is
causing this response.

I don't have an xorg.conf, and would rather keep it that way.

If I get out of X  via ctl-alt-bs,
and then  back in via startx,
then
xset q shows  standby, suspend, off all at 0, ie disabled.

So what else in f11 can be exciting that  "suspend"?

I have done some googling, but no help so far.

Are there F11 guidelines for using both screensaver and dpms?

TIA
Jack

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RE: VLC + Screensaver

2009-11-25 Thread Rajan, S. (Sanya)
Hi Julian,

I installed xscreensaver instead of gnome-screensaver and that seems to have 
solved the problem for me.

I believe it has to do with gnome-screensaver-command --poke' not working 
properly, but I didn't look too far into the issue...

Regards,

Sanya Rajan

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Subject: VLC + Screensaver

Hi all,

since VLC is such a popular player I wonder whether anybody besides me is 
suffering from it no longer being able to suppress the screensaver from 
starting? Using Fedora 12 with Gnome desktop.

Regards.

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VLC + Screensaver

2009-11-25 Thread Julian Weißgerber
Hi all,

since VLC is such a popular player I wonder whether anybody besides me is 
suffering from it no longer being able to suppress the screensaver from 
starting? Using Fedora 12 with Gnome desktop.

Regards.

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Re: F11: Screensaver - causes system to hang, daily

2009-11-18 Thread Simon Slater
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 13:14 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> I tried GSS with a blank screen and everything
> else I could think of and it does not prevent
> the hanging problem.  But if I completely disable
> the GSS, i.e. uncheck both:
> 
> (1) "Activate screensaver when computer is idle"
> (2) "Lock screen when screensaver is active"
> 
> My system has been running F11 for a week now,
> and it has not hung at all.  Unfortunately, my
> computer is without security, short of logging out.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this problem?
> 
> My system is a ASUS P5GC-MX/1333 if that helps.
> 
> FWIW,
> Dan
> 
I have the same situation with KDE on F11.  However my hardware is a
PII233/512 and a S3ViRGE/GX2 graphics card.  I thought it was just my
old hardware.

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F11: Screensaver - causes system to hang, daily

2009-11-15 Thread Daniel B. Thurman

After all of this time testing out F11, I had
originally thought there was something wrong
with FireFox/Thunderbird, or simply xorg. It
was causing my system to completely hang
and a hard reboot was required.  There is
no system logs ever reported, just a gap of
dead-time when the system hung to when it
was booted.

I seemed to have finally narrowed it down and
have not experienced daily complete systems
hangs after disabling the Gnome ScreenSaver.

I tried GSS with a blank screen and everything
else I could think of and it does not prevent
the hanging problem.  But if I completely disable
the GSS, i.e. uncheck both:

(1) "Activate screensaver when computer is idle"
(2) "Lock screen when screensaver is active"

My system has been running F11 for a week now,
and it has not hung at all.  Unfortunately, my
computer is without security, short of logging out.

Has anyone else experienced this problem?

My system is a ASUS P5GC-MX/1333 if that helps.

FWIW,
Dan

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Re: screensaver

2009-11-14 Thread Beartooth
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:19:51 +, Patrick Dupre wrote:
[]
> This what I have:
> xscreensaver-gl-extras-gss-5.10-1.fc11.x86_64
> xscreensaver-base-5.10-1.fc11.x86_64
> xscreensaver-gl-extras-5.10-1.fc11.x86_64
> xscreensaver-5.10-1.fc11.x86_64
  
This is the one I use. The ones above it give you more choices.


> f-spot-screensaver-0.6.1.2-3.fc11.x86_64
> gnome-screensaver-2.26.1-3.fc11.x86_64
  ^^
This is the one I don't -- purely as a personal preference.

> xscreensaver-extras-5.10-1.fc11.x86_64
> xscreensaver-extras-gss-5.10-1.fc11.x86_64
> fedora-screensaver-theme-1.0.0-4.fc11.noarch
> fedorainfinity-screensaver-theme-1.0.0-2.fc11.noarch
> xscreensaver-gl-base-5.10-1.fc11.x86_64
> kdeartwork-screensavers-4.3.2-1.fc11.x86_64
  

I do use K3B and Konqueror -- so I certainly have some of KDE, 
but take care to have as little as possible to do with any of the rest of 
it, again as a personal preference. 
 
> So, what should I remove ?
> I just want to to have gnome shift to lock-screen saver after a while or
> be able to active the mode screensaver manually.

I don't know about activating it manually -- I believe there's a 
way, but I haven't used it. Someone else will have to answer that part.

I just did "yum remove gnome-screensaver" -- which took with it 
some of the other things above. I don't expect to miss them; in fact, I 
was surprised I hadn't done it before on this machine.

If you do the same, you may also wish to go to Main Menu > System 
> Preferences; highlight and right click on Screensaver; tell it to put 
it on your panel. That will make further tweaks more convenient.

To check, right-click the icon, and choose Properties. The 
command box should now say "xscreensaver-demo"

Close the Properties box, and left-click the icon. It should open 
a Preferences box, with the Display Modes tab displayed.

In the bottom left corner is a check-box saying "Lock Screen 
After." Checking it will let you enter a number of minutes -- and it will 
require your user password to get back to the display every time. That is 
what I think you want.

If you don't want to require the password, make sure the check-
box is empty. Then the screensaver should stop and revert to your desktop 
whenever you touch the mouse or a key.

There are lots more choices and controls. From this point, you 
should be safe to play with them till you find a preference -- or just 
leave them as they are.

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Re: screensaver

2009-11-13 Thread Patrick Dupre

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Beartooth wrote:


On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:11:46 +, Patrick Dupre wrote:
[]

gears is one of the screesavers. Why is it activated when I am working.

[]

Is the screensaver inapropriatedly configurated ?


"one of" is ambiguous here. IF you mean you have both gnome-
screensaver and x-screensaver installed, you have to set both of them not
to lock the screen, if you want that. It can be very irritating ...


This what I have:
xscreensaver-gl-extras-gss-5.10-1.fc11.x86_64
xscreensaver-base-5.10-1.fc11.x86_64
xscreensaver-gl-extras-5.10-1.fc11.x86_64
xscreensaver-5.10-1.fc11.x86_64
f-spot-screensaver-0.6.1.2-3.fc11.x86_64
gnome-screensaver-2.26.1-3.fc11.x86_64
xscreensaver-extras-5.10-1.fc11.x86_64
xscreensaver-extras-gss-5.10-1.fc11.x86_64
fedora-screensaver-theme-1.0.0-4.fc11.noarch
fedorainfinity-screensaver-theme-1.0.0-2.fc11.noarch
xscreensaver-gl-base-5.10-1.fc11.x86_64
kdeartwork-screensavers-4.3.2-1.fc11.x86_64


So, what should I remove ?
I just want to to have gnome shift to lock-screen saver after a while
or be able to active the mode screensaver manually.

Thank for your help.







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Re: screensaver

2009-11-13 Thread Beartooth
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:11:46 +, Patrick Dupre wrote:
[]
> gears is one of the screesavers. Why is it activated when I am working.
[]
> Is the screensaver inapropriatedly configurated ?

"one of" is ambiguous here. IF you mean you have both gnome-
screensaver and x-screensaver installed, you have to set both of them not 
to lock the screen, if you want that. It can be very irritating ...

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screensaver

2009-11-13 Thread Patrick Dupre

Hello,

On Fedora11 (64 bits), working in graphics mode, the sceeensaver
runs ! Example:

top - 13:04:54 up 6 days, 13:00,  7 users,  load average: 1.53, 1.26, 0.94
Tasks: 214 total,   2 running, 212 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  6.8%us,  3.4%sy, 13.5%ni, 76.2%id,  0.1%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si, 
0.0%st

Mem:   3036432k total,  2124356k used,   912076k free,   301124k buffers
Swap:  8120772k total,0k used,  8120772k free,  1028012k cached

  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
23518 pdupre30  10 78100  11m 2732 S 41.1  0.4   1:48.22 gears
23481 pdupre20   0  458m  24m 9.8m R 27.4  0.8   1:36.46 npviewer.bin
 2287 pdupre20   0  116m  42m 9356 S  9.8  1.4 961:23.08 Xvnc


gears is one of the screesavers. Why is it activated when I am working.
There is not other Xsession opened, no other user, and nothing on the 
screen (ie. gears) !

It looks like that it is only runnning in background and consumming PCU.
I can easy kill the process, but after 5 minutes again another one is
going to run (in background like hypertorus) even if I am working !

Is the screensaver inapropriatedly configurated ?

Thank for your ideas.

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xdg-screensaver

2009-10-12 Thread Rod Rook
Hi,

Under Fedora 11, 'xdg-screensaver suspend windowID' doesn't seem to work.
Am I wrong on this?
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Do Your Own Screensaver?

2009-10-06 Thread Oliver Ruebenacker
 Hello,

  How can I create and install my own screensaver? Thanks!

 Take care
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Screensaver in F11 loses horizontal sync

2009-10-03 Thread Bob McConnell
I searched both Google and the archives of this list, but could not find 
the magic keys to produce useful answers.


I downloaded the Fedora 11(*) live CD and used it to install on two 
boxen. Both are showing the same problem. Everything works well until 
the screen saver kicks in. At that point the display loses sync and 
shows torn jagged diagonal lines across the screen. Any normal input 
triggers a recovery and returns to my regularly scheduled programs.


Fedora 11, KDE

Box 1:
  Dell GX270 SFF
  P-4/Xeon 2.6 GHz
  512 MB DDR RAM
  20 GB IDE drive
  Intel 865 Video Chip

Box 2:
  White box
  P-4/Celeron 1.0 GHz
  512 MB DDR RAM
  60 GB IDE drive
  Apollo ProMedia PLE133T/a Video chip

Both boxes are talking to a Dell E173FP display through a Compaq KVM. 
Display resolution is 1280x1024.


Where can I find instructions on how to re-configure the screen saver so 
it inherits the correct video settings?


Where are the rest of the video settings saved so I can enable some of 
the options that don't show up? For example, in System Settings->Dislay 
the second box only shows a 60 Hz Refresh option. I need to enable and 
select 75 Hz. The file I was expecting, /etc/X11/xorg.conf, is not there.


Where can I find instructions on how to install and switch to XFCE?

Bob McConnell
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from Red Hat to CentOS. After the switch, IT will no longer be managing 
our external or internal servers. So I need to learn enough about the 
environment to keep the development and QA servers in sync with the 
hosted servers. Second, Slackware 13 does not play well with the Intel 
video chips in most of my Dell computers. i.e. both the live CD and 
install CD produce unusable configurations even in CLI modes. I have 
been using Slackware since 1993, when it replaced my original Soft 
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F11 Screensaver does not deactivate with mouse movement

2009-06-25 Thread Bradley

Okay, here's another problem:

When the screen saver activates due to inactivity, I can't get out 
of it with mouse movement but have to hit a key on the keyboard 
instead.  Any suggestions?


Bradley

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Re: FC11: gnome-screensaver stop working under fluxbox

2009-06-21 Thread Marco Guazzone
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote:
> Dear Fedora users,
>
> I'm using FLUXBOX as my desktop manager (without GNOME) and
> GNOME-SCREENSAVER as my screensaver program.
> I've noticed that GNOME-SCREENSAVER does not automatically blank the
> screen anymore; it should blank the screen after 5 minutes but even
> after +/- an hour, for instance, the screen is not blanked even if
> GNOME-SCREENSAVER is up and running.
>
> Trying to query the status of GNOME-SCREENSAVER, I get:
>  $ gnome-screensaver-command -q
>    The screensaver is inactive
>    The screensaver is not inhibited
>

Just for trying, I've installed xscreensaver and it works under fluxbox.

So I think it is a problem/bug of gnome-screensaver.

Does anyone experienced a similar problem?

Thank you very much!

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FC11: gnome-screensaver stop working under fluxbox

2009-06-20 Thread Marco Guazzone
Dear Fedora users,

I'm using FLUXBOX as my desktop manager (without GNOME) and
GNOME-SCREENSAVER as my screensaver program.
I've noticed that GNOME-SCREENSAVER does not automatically blank the
screen anymore; it should blank the screen after 5 minutes but even
after +/- an hour, for instance, the screen is not blanked even if
GNOME-SCREENSAVER is up and running.

Trying to query the status of GNOME-SCREENSAVER, I get:
  $ gnome-screensaver-command -q
The screensaver is inactive
The screensaver is not inhibited

and if I force to activate the screensaver:
  $ gnome-screensaver-command -a
or to lock my screen:
  $ gnome-screensaver-command -l
It works perfectly.

Please note: just to check if GNOME-SCREENSAVER worked I've tried to
use GNOME instead of FLUXBOX and...
Yes under GNOME all is OK

I used to use FLUXBOX + GNOME-SCREENSAVER since FC10 and under FC10
all worked perfectly.

Any idea to let GNOME-SCREENSAVER work under FLUXBOX again?

Thank you very much in advance!!

Cheers!!

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Re: howto disable the screensaver in F10 XFCE spin

2009-06-19 Thread Bill Davidsen

Globe Trotter wrote:

Would yum removing gnome-screensaver be the way?


Turn it off in preferences.

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Re: howto disable the screensaver in F10 XFCE spin

2009-06-18 Thread Andras Simon
On 6/19/09, Globe Trotter  wrote:
>
> Would yum removing gnome-screensaver be the way?

Try gnome-screensaver-preferences.

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howto disable the screensaver in F10 XFCE spin

2009-06-18 Thread Globe Trotter

Would yum removing gnome-screensaver be the way?

T


  

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Re: change display/screensaver timeout

2009-06-02 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:16:30 -0400
Dave Feustel wrote:

> Suggestions?

xscreensaver-demo

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Re: change display/screensaver timeout

2009-06-02 Thread Suvayu Ali

Dave Feustel wrote:

I would like to lengthen the timeout for the display/screensaver,
but I have not figured out how to do this. I am running xfce.
so Gnome and KDE options are not available AFAIK.



Most likely they still apply, as XFCE is probably using 
gnome-screensaver or xscreensaver for this. And this option should be 
configurable from either of its configuration window. Right now I am on 
xubuntu, so can't give you the exact instructions, but I guess you can 
work out the rest from what I mentioned.


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change display/screensaver timeout

2009-06-02 Thread Dave Feustel
I would like to lengthen the timeout for the display/screensaver,
but I have not figured out how to do this. I am running xfce.
so Gnome and KDE options are not available AFAIK.

Suggestions?

Thanks.

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Re: Screensaver usurpation

2009-05-27 Thread Beartooth
On Wed, 27 May 2009 11:55:29 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
[]
> You're getting confused when you see xscreensaver*-gss in the
> gnome-screensaver dependency list.  Note that the gss stands for
> "gnome-screensaver". xscreensaver*-gss is a compatibility thing that
> allows gnome-screensaver to work with xscreensaver.  If you're using
> xscreensaver on its own (like I do) you don't need xscreensaver*-gss as
> it would serve no purpose.
> 
> You can have a complete, working xscreensaver installation with all the
> toys available by doing "yum remove gnome-screensaver" and then
> installing the following rpms:
> 
> xscreensaver-base
> xscreensaver-gl-base
> xscreensaver-gl-extras
> xscreensaver-extras

Curiouser and curiouser. I did the remove, followed immediately 
by yum install plus the four above (by c&p). The response was "already 
installed and latest version
Nothing to do" -- for all four. (This is F10, btw.) Many thanks!



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Re: Screensaver usurpation

2009-05-27 Thread Frank Cox
On Wed, 27 May 2009 17:46:17 + (UTC)
Beartooth wrote:

>   So suppose I tell it yes. From other posts in this thread, it 
> seems I would still have some part of xscreensaver. What, in non-
> technical terms, would it look like? 

It would look exactly like xscreensaver, because it would be xscreensaver.

You're getting confused when you see xscreensaver*-gss in the gnome-screensaver
dependency list.  Note that the gss stands for "gnome-screensaver".
xscreensaver*-gss is a compatibility thing that allows gnome-screensaver to
work with xscreensaver.  If you're using xscreensaver on its own (like I do)
you don't need xscreensaver*-gss as it would serve no purpose.

You can have a complete, working xscreensaver installation with all the toys
available by doing "yum remove gnome-screensaver" and then installing the
following rpms:

xscreensaver-base
xscreensaver-gl-base
xscreensaver-gl-extras
xscreensaver-extras

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Re: Screensaver usurpation

2009-05-27 Thread Beartooth
On Wed, 27 May 2009 16:06:52 +0100, Steve Searle wrote:

> Around 03:59pm on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 (UK time), Rahul Sundaram
> scrawled:
> 
>> On 05/27/2009 08:21 PM, Beartooth wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> >I've tried the big hammer more than once -- told yum to remove
>> > gnome-screensaver; but it always threatens to take xscreensaver with
>> > it.
>> > 
>> >Is there anything I can do about this usurpation? Or if not,
>> > might some developer in an idle moment take a hard look at the
>> > dependencies?
>> 
>> I don't know what the trouble is. Here I go, on a system with GNOME
>> install, I install xscreensaver
>> 
>> http://fpaste.org/paste/13109
>> 
>> Then I remove gnome-screensaver
>> 
>> http://fpaste.org/paste/13110
>> 
>> No problems.  Show us your output
> 
> Note, I am not the OP, but for me:
[]
OK, I am the  OP, and I get what looks the same to me : 

Removing:
 gnome-screensaver  i386 2.24.1-2.fc10  
installed   3.4 M
Removing for dependencies:
 fedora-screensaver-theme   noarch   1.0.0-3.fc10   
installed18 k
 fedorainfinity-screensaver-theme   noarch   1.0.0-1.fc8
installed   102 k
 rss-glx-gnome-screensaver  i386 0.8.2.p-1.fc10 
installed   4.3 k
 xscreensaver-extras-gssi386 1:5.08-5.fc10  
installed43 k
 xscreensaver-gl-extras-gss i386 1:5.08-5.fc10  
installed28 k

So suppose I tell it yes. From other posts in this thread, it 
seems I would still have some part of xscreensaver. What, in non-
technical terms, would it look like? 

Could I still have my colliding galaxies, my bouncing cow and 
flying toasters, my cage and cubestorm, my decayscreen and endgame, my 
flow and knots, my grav and hypercube, interaggregate and Klein bottle, 
my molecules and mountains, .?

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Re: Screensaver usurpation

2009-05-27 Thread Mamoru Tasaka
Steve Searle wrote, at 05/28/2009 12:06 AM +9:00:
> Around 03:59pm on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 (UK time), Rahul Sundaram scrawled:
> 
>> On 05/27/2009 08:21 PM, Beartooth wrote:
>>
>>> I've tried the big hammer more than once -- told yum to remove 
>>> gnome-screensaver; but it always threatens to take xscreensaver with it.
>>>
>>> Is there anything I can do about this usurpation? Or if not, 
>>> might some developer in an idle moment take a hard look at the 
>>> dependencies?
>> I don't know what the trouble is. Here I go, on a system with GNOME
>> install, I install xscreensaver
>>
>> http://fpaste.org/paste/13109
>>
>> Then I remove gnome-screensaver
>>
>> http://fpaste.org/paste/13110
>>
>> No problems.  Show us your output
> 
> Note, I am not the OP, but for me:
> 
> # yum remove gnome-screensaver
> 
> ...
> 
> Dependencies Resolved
> 
> 
> Package     Arch Version  Repository Size
> ====
> Removing:
>   gnome-screensaver     i386 2.24.1-2.fc10installed  3.4 M
> Removing for dependencies:
>   fedora-screensaver-theme  noarch   1.0.0-3.fc10 installed   18 k
>   fedorainfinity-screensaver-theme  noarch   1.0.0-1.fc8  installed  102 k
>   xscreensaver-extras-gss   i386 1:5.08-5.fc10installed   43 k
>   xscreensaver-gl-extras-gssi386 1:5.08-5.fc10installed   28 
> k 
> 
> I don't want to lose these dependencies.
> 
> Steve

xscreensaver{,-gl}-extras-gss is not needed when you want to use xscreensaver.
They are needed when you want to use xscreensaver hacks with
gnome-screensaver.

Regards,
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Re: Screensaver usurpation

2009-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2009 08:36 PM, Steve Searle wrote:

> 
> Note, I am not the OP, but for me:
> 
> # yum remove gnome-screensaver

So seems the behaviour is different in Fedora 10. I am in Fedora 11.

Rahul

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Re: Screensaver usurpation

2009-05-27 Thread Steve Searle
Around 03:59pm on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 (UK time), Rahul Sundaram scrawled:

> On 05/27/2009 08:21 PM, Beartooth wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I've tried the big hammer more than once -- told yum to remove 
> > gnome-screensaver; but it always threatens to take xscreensaver with it.
> > 
> > Is there anything I can do about this usurpation? Or if not, 
> > might some developer in an idle moment take a hard look at the 
> > dependencies?
> 
> I don't know what the trouble is. Here I go, on a system with GNOME
> install, I install xscreensaver
> 
> http://fpaste.org/paste/13109
> 
> Then I remove gnome-screensaver
> 
> http://fpaste.org/paste/13110
> 
> No problems.  Show us your output

Note, I am not the OP, but for me:

# yum remove gnome-screensaver

...

Dependencies Resolved


Package Arch Version  Repository Size
====
Removing:
  gnome-screensaver     i386 2.24.1-2.fc10installed  3.4 M
Removing for dependencies:
  fedora-screensaver-theme  noarch   1.0.0-3.fc10 installed   18 k
  fedorainfinity-screensaver-theme  noarch   1.0.0-1.fc8  installed  102 k
  xscreensaver-extras-gss   i386 1:5.08-5.fc10installed   43 k
  xscreensaver-gl-extras-gssi386 1:5.08-5.fc10installed   28 k 

I don't want to lose these dependencies.

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Re: Screensaver usurpation

2009-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2009 08:21 PM, Beartooth wrote:

> 
>   I've tried the big hammer more than once -- told yum to remove 
> gnome-screensaver; but it always threatens to take xscreensaver with it.
> 
>   Is there anything I can do about this usurpation? Or if not, 
> might some developer in an idle moment take a hard look at the 
> dependencies?

I don't know what the trouble is. Here I go, on a system with GNOME
install, I install xscreensaver

http://fpaste.org/paste/13109

Then I remove gnome-screensaver

http://fpaste.org/paste/13110

No problems.  Show us your output

Rahul

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Re: Screensaver usurpation

2009-05-27 Thread Steve Searle
Around 03:51pm on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 (UK time), Beartooth scrawled:

>   Is there anything I can do about this usurpation? Or if not, 
> might some developer in an idle moment take a hard look at the 
> dependencies?

I do the following horrible hack:

Hide the first of the System -> Preferences -> Look and Feel ->
Screensaver entries as this is the gnome-screensaver one. To get GNOME
to run xscreensaver I do a bit of a hack by renaming the
gnome-screensaver program, and then symlinking the xscreensaver program
to gnome-screensaver.

# cd /usr/bin
# mv gnome-screensaver gnome-screensaver.old
# ln -s xscreensaver gnome-screensaver

I said it was horrible :-)

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Screensaver usurpation

2009-05-27 Thread Beartooth

This is far from new; I've seen it with the last several releases 
of Fedora, and keep forgetting to ask about it.

I happen to prefer xscreensaver, which always insists on 
installation that gnome-screensaver be installed, too. So I install it, 
and make sure it's xscreensaver that I run.

Often, however, it stops working after a while. When that 
happens, and I launch it, it gives me two messages. One says gnome-
screensaver's daemon, or something, is running, and asks whether to stop 
it. Given that, it then says its own is not running, and asks whether to 
start.

I've tried the big hammer more than once -- told yum to remove 
gnome-screensaver; but it always threatens to take xscreensaver with it.

Is there anything I can do about this usurpation? Or if not, 
might some developer in an idle moment take a hard look at the 
dependencies?

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Re: KDE 4.2 screensaver

2009-05-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Kempter wrote:
> I set the screensaver to the 'slide show' and under the setup tab I
> selected a directory of images, I also selected 'Random order' ,  'Show
> names' , and 'Include images from sub-folders'
> 
> The images are all quite large (shot with a 12.1 Mpx camera)
> 
> However when the screensaver is running many of the images show up as tiny
> thumbnail sized images..

Are you sure you don't have thumbnails sitting in some subfolder(s)?

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KDE 4.2 screensaver

2009-05-16 Thread Kevin Kempter
Hi all;

I'm running Fedora 10 (x86_64) and KDE 4.2

I set the screensaver to the 'slide show' and under the setup tab I selected a 
directory of images, I also selected 'Random order' ,  'Show names' , and 
'Include images from sub-folders'

The images are all quite large (shot with a 12.1 Mpx camera)

However when the screensaver is running many of the images show up as tiny 
thumbnail sized images..

Any thoughts on how to fix this ?

Thanks in advance...
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Re: F10 - KDE - Wake from screensaver lock screen

2009-04-28 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 04:23 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
> > OK - filed (against kdeartwork-extras because they don't list
> > kdeartwork-screensavers)...
> 
> Bugzilla lists only source packages. kdeartwork-screensavers is a subpackage
> of kdeartwork, so any issues with it must be filed against kdeartwork. The
> kdeartwork-extras package is obsolete, nothing should be filed against it.
> Rex Dieter already reassigned the bug to the correct (*) component.
> 
> (*) well, correct assuming the issue is actually in kdeartwork-screensavers.
> It might also be a bug in kdebase-workspace, qt, your graphics driver etc.
> But let's keep it filed against kdeartwork for now.

close apparently works not only with horseshoes and hand grenades, but
also with bugzilla  ;-)   Either way, it went to Rex

Thanks

Craig


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Re: F10 - KDE - Wake from screensaver lock screen

2009-04-28 Thread Kevin Kofler
Craig White wrote:
> OK - filed (against kdeartwork-extras because they don't list
> kdeartwork-screensavers)...

Bugzilla lists only source packages. kdeartwork-screensavers is a subpackage
of kdeartwork, so any issues with it must be filed against kdeartwork. The
kdeartwork-extras package is obsolete, nothing should be filed against it.
Rex Dieter already reassigned the bug to the correct (*) component.

(*) well, correct assuming the issue is actually in kdeartwork-screensavers.
It might also be a bug in kdebase-workspace, qt, your graphics driver etc.
But let's keep it filed against kdeartwork for now.

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Re: F10 - KDE - Wake from screensaver lock screen

2009-04-28 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 01:27 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
> > Since the last round of updates, it seems that when I wake the screen
> > from sleep/non-use, it shows me the entire screen instead of a dark
> > background while I am prompted to enter a password.
> > 
> > Blank screen - Start Automatically/10 minutes - Require Password After
> > 60 seconds
> > 
> > Is this a bug?
> 
> Definitely looks like one.

OK - filed (against kdeartwork-extras because they don't list
kdeartwork-screensavers)...

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498132

Rex didn't have anything to do anyway  ;-)

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Re: F10 - KDE - Wake from screensaver lock screen

2009-04-28 Thread Kevin Kofler
Craig White wrote:
> Since the last round of updates, it seems that when I wake the screen
> from sleep/non-use, it shows me the entire screen instead of a dark
> background while I am prompted to enter a password.
> 
> Blank screen - Start Automatically/10 minutes - Require Password After
> 60 seconds
> 
> Is this a bug?

Definitely looks like one.

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F10 - KDE - Wake from screensaver lock screen

2009-04-27 Thread Craig White
F10/KDE

Since the last round of updates, it seems that when I wake the screen
from sleep/non-use, it shows me the entire screen instead of a dark
background while I am prompted to enter a password.

Blank screen - Start Automatically/10 minutes - Require Password After
60 seconds

Is this a bug?

Craig


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Re: f9: turn screensaver on/off when using xfce

2009-04-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:52:38 -0400
Dave Feustel  wrote:

> Running xfce in F9, I cannot figure out how to enable/disable the
> screensaver. I have run the command yum install 'xfce*', so I think I
> have all the xfce apps installed. Which one controls the screensaver?

You instead want to do: 

yum groupinstall XFCE

to get all the packages needed. 

In f9 by default Xfce uses xscreensaver. You can run
'xscreensaver-command -prefs' to get a prefs screen. 

> 
> Thanks.
> 

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f9: turn screensaver on/off when using xfce

2009-04-03 Thread Dave Feustel
Running xfce in F9, I cannot figure out how to enable/disable the screensaver.
I have run the command yum install 'xfce*', so I think I have all the
xfce apps installed. Which one controls the screensaver?

Thanks.

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Re: Screensaver

2009-03-03 Thread Bill Crawford
On Tuesday 03 March 2009 17:01:29 Jeffrey Ross wrote:
> I have a application monitoring program running on the display of a
> machine and I'm looking to have the screen lock with a password like the
> screensaver does however I do not want the screen to blank since this
> would obviously prevent me from seeing what's on the screen.  But I do
> want to prevent people from "tinkering" with the machine.
>
> Any suggestions?

Use one of the screensavers that distorts the screen, like the "ripples" hack. 
If you use xscreensaver, it'll let you select a set of hacks to run, and you 
can just pick all the ones that still let you see most of the screen.

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Screensaver

2009-03-03 Thread Jeffrey Ross
I have a application monitoring program running on the display of a
machine and I'm looking to have the screen lock with a password like the
screensaver does however I do not want the screen to blank since this
would obviously prevent me from seeing what's on the screen.  But I do
want to prevent people from "tinkering" with the machine.

Any suggestions?

Thanks, Jeff

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Re: xdg-screensaver not working

2009-02-16 Thread Andrea
Rex Dieter wrote:
> Andrea wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've tried to use xdg-screensaver many times with KDE 4 but it has never
>> worked. I am on Fedora 9.
>>
>> This is the output
>>
>> [and...@thinkpad ~]$ xdg-screensaver status
>> call failed
>> ERROR:  kdesktop KScreensaverIface isEnabled returned ''
> 
> Nod, xdg-screensaver doesn't yet support KDE4 (adding support via the 
> assocated new dbus methios is not-trivial).  I've been slowly working on it 
> over time... 

I think this little app is very useful for all cases when an application does 
not natively support
this feature.
It is very easy to write a small script doing it, much easier than navigating 
to the correct point
in the config.

Thanks for the update.

Andrea

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Re: xdg-screensaver not working

2009-02-15 Thread Rex Dieter
Andrea wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I've tried to use xdg-screensaver many times with KDE 4 but it has never
> worked. I am on Fedora 9.
> 
> This is the output
> 
> [and...@thinkpad ~]$ xdg-screensaver status
> call failed
> ERROR:  kdesktop KScreensaverIface isEnabled returned ''

Nod, xdg-screensaver doesn't yet support KDE4 (adding support via the 
assocated new dbus methios is not-trivial).  I've been slowly working on it 
over time... 

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xdg-screensaver not working

2009-02-15 Thread Andrea
Hi,

I've tried to use xdg-screensaver many times with KDE 4 but it has never worked.
I am on Fedora 9.

This is the output

[and...@thinkpad ~]$ xdg-screensaver status
call failed
ERROR:  kdesktop KScreensaverIface isEnabled returned ''


or

[and...@thinkpad ~]$ xdg-screensaver activate
call failed


I might have read once that it does not work with KDE 4, but I might as well 
have stopped some
service that it needs to run.

anybody had any success?

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Re: XFCE screensaver daemon

2008-12-31 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:11:21 -0700
Kevin Fenzi wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:54:17 -0500
> Carroll Grigsby  wrote:
> 
> > I installed the xfce Fedora 10 spin a few weeks ago and I'm quite
> > pleased with it. However, I have encountered an annoying bug with
> > the screen saver. Each time I log in, I have to open the xfce
> > Settings Manager, pick Screensaver. close the Gnome screensaver
> > daemon and open the xscreensaver daemon. If I don't, I get the
> > default Gnome behavior of a black screen with a login window. Ugly
> > and not necessary. What do I have to do to avoid this nuisance?
> 
> Check your 'autostarted applications' and make sure gnome-screensaver
> is not in there. 
> 
> Make sure you logout and select 'save session' after closing it. 
> 
> As a final thing to try you could remove the gnome-screensaver
> package. 
> 
> > 
> > -- cmg
> > 
> 
> kevin

Kevin:
Removing the gnome-screensaver package did the trick. Thank you.
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Re: XFCE screensaver daemon

2008-12-31 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:54:17 -0500
Carroll Grigsby  wrote:

> I installed the xfce Fedora 10 spin a few weeks ago and I'm quite
> pleased with it. However, I have encountered an annoying bug with the
> screen saver. Each time I log in, I have to open the xfce Settings
> Manager, pick Screensaver. close the Gnome screensaver daemon and open
> the xscreensaver daemon. If I don't, I get the default Gnome behavior
> of a black screen with a login window. Ugly and not necessary. What do
> I have to do to avoid this nuisance?

Check your 'autostarted applications' and make sure gnome-screensaver
is not in there. 

Make sure you logout and select 'save session' after closing it. 

As a final thing to try you could remove the gnome-screensaver package. 

> 
> -- cmg
> 

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XFCE screensaver daemon

2008-12-31 Thread Carroll Grigsby
I installed the xfce Fedora 10 spin a few weeks ago and I'm quite
pleased with it. However, I have encountered an annoying bug with the
screen saver. Each time I log in, I have to open the xfce Settings
Manager, pick Screensaver. close the Gnome screensaver daemon and open
the xscreensaver daemon. If I don't, I get the default Gnome behavior
of a black screen with a login window. Ugly and not necessary. What do
I have to do to avoid this nuisance?

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F10 - gnome-screensaver misbehaving?

2008-12-05 Thread Michael Cronenworth
I've been noticing Xorg has been taking a nice chunk of RAM after 
upgrading to Fedora 10. I decided to start up xrestop and see what's up:


xrestop - Display: localhost:0
  Monitoring 35 clients. XErrors: 0
  Pixmaps:   95419K total, Other: 219K total, All:   95639K 
total


res-base Wins  GCs Fnts Pxms Misc   Pxm mem  Other   Total   PID 
Identifier
0c0 3   2705 181840960K 43K  41003K  2355 
gnome-screensaver

120   190   341  196 122311853K 34K  11888K  2390 xfwm4

That's the top two items in my list. Is there any particular reason 
gnome-screensaver needs 40 megs of RAM? Yes, I'm running XFCE4 on this 
system, but I have seen the same behavior on a Gnome desktop running 
Fedora 10.


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fedora 9 toshiba satellite A300 display brightness and screensaver

2008-11-07 Thread Govind Chandra
Hi,

Just installed fedora 9 on a Toshiba Satellite Pro A300 1G0.
Everything is fine except that if the screen saver kicks in and then I
reactivate the display by either by the keyboard or by moving the
mouse, the brightness is back to 100 percent and I have to reduce it
again using the Fn F6 key combination. I have set the brightness to be
around 15% via the System -> Preferences -> System -> Power
Management. When the laptop first boots up it has the right
brightness. Only when it wakes up after the screen saver has kicked in
that the brightness is back to 100%. The screen saver is set to Blank
Screen.

Grateful for any suggestions.

Govind

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Re: How to Disable screensaver

2008-09-30 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008, Dave Feustel wrote:

> I'm running F9.  How do I turn off the screensaver (or extend the
> timeout period) so I don't have to type my password every two minutes to
> unlock the screen?

If it's the same as F8, it's rather difficult.
If you search the archives for screensaver and my name,
you should be able to discover what I did.

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Re: How to Disable screensaver

2008-09-30 Thread Bob Barrett

Fred Silsbee wrote:


--- On Mon, 9/29/08, Bob Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

From: Bob Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to Disable screensaver
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using 
Fedora." 
Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 5:27 PM


screensaver is slightly buried.
  
KDE 4.1 menu->applications->system->system
  

settings->left column screensaver


Under the menu icon lower left, right click on an item
  

and select "save to panel"
    

I'd still like to know how to make the screensaver
  

stay on indefinitely!


There is some setting in xconfig or one of those
  

files!


Years ago I knew how to do this.

  
  

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Your efforts to adjust the KDE screen saver can be
frustrated by dpms.

dpms is normally setup to blank your screen after 10
minutes. It will
look like the blank screen saver has come on. Dpms is
controlled with
xset. "xset q" prints a longer report than this.
Look for "DPMS" about
two thirds of the way down:

[]$ xset q
DPMS (Energy Star):
Standby: 1200 Suspend: 1800 Off: 2400
DPMS is Enabled
Monitor is On

This will blank the screen in X in 10 minutes (1200 would
be 20 minutes,
but in every case, my screns blanked in 10 minutes).

[]$ xset dpms 0 0 0

[]$ xset q
DPMS (Energy Star):
Standby: 0 Suspend: 0 Off: 0
DPMS is Enabled
Monitor is On

I set up a script as ~/.kde/Autostart/dpms000 including:

#!/bin/sh
/bin/sleep 5; /usr/bin/xset dpms 0 0 0

The sleep statement was necessary in Fedora and Slackware,
but not in
Debian. I originally named the script dpms-off, but it
would not work in
Debian. The xset man page shows other ways to turn off
dpms, but they
would not work in my machines. Before doing this, the KDE
screen saver
would work at all, unless I set it to come on in less than
ten minutes.
If I set the screen saver to come at 5 minutes, it would
come for 5
minutes, and then the screen went blank. I don't
remember this problem
before fedora 6 or 7.

Incidentally, KDE can be setup with shutdown scripts, also.

~/.kde/shutdown/restoresound :

#!/bin/sh
cp /home/bob/sys.setup/sound/kmixctrlrc \
/home/bob/.kde/share/config/kmixctrlrc

restores my desired Kmix default sound levels when I
logout, so there
won't be any rude surprises when I next start KDE.

Bob




My screensaver KDE 4.1.1 works great using the dialog provided

and with nothing else.

I used kpowersave to allow the screensaver to run indefinitely.

I could not find kpowersave in the lower left icon menus.

I found it at the panel lower right in the form of a little plug.

Whadaya call this section again..it slips my memory

  

Ooops... I had wondered why I was the only one with this problem.

Oh well... At least I learned more about xset.

Bob Barrett

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Re: How to Disable screensaver

2008-09-29 Thread Bob Barrett


screensaver is slightly buried.
  
KDE 4.1 menu->applications->system->system settings->left column screensaver


Under the menu icon lower left, right click on an item and select "save to 
panel"

I'd still like to know how to make the screensaver stay on indefinitely!

There is some setting in xconfig or one of those files!

Years ago I knew how to do this.

  

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Your efforts to adjust the KDE screen saver can be frustrated by dpms.

dpms is normally setup to blank your screen after 10 minutes. It will
look like the blank screen saver has come on. Dpms is controlled with
xset. "xset q" prints a longer report than this. Look for "DPMS" about
two thirds of the way down:

[]$ xset q
DPMS (Energy Star):
Standby: 1200 Suspend: 1800 Off: 2400
DPMS is Enabled
Monitor is On

This will blank the screen in X in 10 minutes (1200 would be 20 minutes,
but in every case, my screns blanked in 10 minutes).

[]$ xset dpms 0 0 0

[]$ xset q
DPMS (Energy Star):
Standby: 0 Suspend: 0 Off: 0
DPMS is Enabled
Monitor is On

I set up a script as ~/.kde/Autostart/dpms000 including:

#!/bin/sh
/bin/sleep 5; /usr/bin/xset dpms 0 0 0

The sleep statement was necessary in Fedora and Slackware, but not in
Debian. I originally named the script dpms-off, but it would not work in
Debian. The xset man page shows other ways to turn off dpms, but they
would not work in my machines. Before doing this, the KDE screen saver
would work at all, unless I set it to come on in less than ten minutes.
If I set the screen saver to come at 5 minutes, it would come for 5
minutes, and then the screen went blank. I don't remember this problem
before fedora 6 or 7.

Incidentally, KDE can be setup with shutdown scripts, also.

~/.kde/shutdown/restoresound :

#!/bin/sh
cp /home/bob/sys.setup/sound/kmixctrlrc \
/home/bob/.kde/share/config/kmixctrlrc

restores my desired Kmix default sound levels when I logout, so there
won't be any rude surprises when I next start KDE.

Bob

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Re: How to Disable screensaver

2008-09-28 Thread Frank Cox
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:35:12 -0700 (PDT)
Fred Silsbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'd still like to know how to make the screensaver stay on indefinitely!

Do you mean that you want it to run "forever" without terminating when on a
keypress or mouse movement?

If you tell xscreensaver to lock the screen it won't exit to the desktop until
you enter your password.

Or you can just run the demo that you want directly without going through
xscreensaver.

(As an aside, xmame with the right game in attract mode makes a lovely "demo" on
a spare machine.)

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Re: How to Disable screensaver

2008-09-28 Thread Fred Silsbee



--- On Mon, 9/29/08, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: How to Disable screensaver
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." 
> 
> Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 2:19 AM
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:17:43AM +0930, Tim wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 18:37 -0400, Dave Feustel wrote:
> > > What I want is the ability to add application
> icons for Konqueror and
> > > Xterm to the bottom system panel as in kde3. That
> feature seems to be
> > > absent from both gnome and kde4 in F9.
> > 
> > It's certainly not absent in Gnome, it's just
> a right-click or
> > drag-and-drop away.
> 
> I tried to do that but nothing happened, In kde3 I was able
> to create an
> application launcher for a specific application (eg xterm)
> on the
> desktop and then drag that icon onto the system panel, from
> which the
> application could be started with a single click. This does
> not work at
> all for me so far with F9 gnome.  How is the equivalent
> operation done in
> gnome?
> 
> > Also, your initial query could have been solved
> > simply by reading through the menus, that's what
> they're there for.
> > It's not hard to find an item called
> "screensaver."
> > 
> 
screensaver is slightly buried.

KDE 4.1 menu->applications->system->system settings->left column screensaver

Under the menu icon lower left, right click on an item and select "save to 
panel"

I'd still like to know how to make the screensaver stay on indefinitely!

There is some setting in xconfig or one of those files!

Years ago I knew how to do this.

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Re: How to Disable screensaver

2008-09-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 18:37 -0400, Dave Feustel wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 04:47:46PM -0400, Dave Feustel wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:48:24PM -0700, Kam Leo wrote:
> > > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I'm running F9.  How do I turn off the screensaver (or extend the
> > > > timeout period) so I don't have to type my password every two minutes to
> > > > unlock the screen?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > 
> > > For Gnome Desktop go to System->Preferences->Look and Feel.
> > 
> > Thanks! How do I select the kde desktop?
> 
> I figured out how to select kde at login, but the kde4 desktop is even
> less usuable than gnome. What I want is the ability to add application
> icons for Konqueror and Xterm to the bottom system panel as in kde3.
> That feature seems to be absent from both gnome and kde4 in F9.

In KDE4: right-click on the application in the "F" (Start) menu and
select "Add to Panel" (or "Add to Desktop" if you prefer).

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Re: How to Disable screensaver

2008-09-28 Thread Frank Cox
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:19:14 -0400
Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How is the equivalent operation done in
> gnome?

Right-click on an empty spot on your panel bar.

Select "Add to Panel"

Fill in the blanks in the window that appears.  Click on the icon in the window
to select a new one if you want to change it.

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Re: How to Disable screensaver

2008-09-28 Thread Dave Feustel
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:17:43AM +0930, Tim wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 18:37 -0400, Dave Feustel wrote:
> > What I want is the ability to add application icons for Konqueror and
> > Xterm to the bottom system panel as in kde3. That feature seems to be
> > absent from both gnome and kde4 in F9.
> 
> It's certainly not absent in Gnome, it's just a right-click or
> drag-and-drop away.

I tried to do that but nothing happened, In kde3 I was able to create an
application launcher for a specific application (eg xterm) on the
desktop and then drag that icon onto the system panel, from which the
application could be started with a single click. This does not work at
all for me so far with F9 gnome.  How is the equivalent operation done in
gnome?

> Also, your initial query could have been solved
> simply by reading through the menus, that's what they're there for.
> It's not hard to find an item called "screensaver."
> 

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Re: How to Disable screensaver

2008-09-28 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 18:37 -0400, Dave Feustel wrote:
> What I want is the ability to add application icons for Konqueror and
> Xterm to the bottom system panel as in kde3. That feature seems to be
> absent from both gnome and kde4 in F9.

It's certainly not absent in Gnome, it's just a right-click or
drag-and-drop away.  Also, your initial query could have been solved
simply by reading through the menus, that's what they're there for.
It's not hard to find an item called "screensaver."

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Re: How to Disable screensaver

2008-09-28 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 04:47:46PM -0400, Dave Feustel wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:48:24PM -0700, Kam Leo wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I'm running F9.  How do I turn off the screensaver (or extend the
> > > timeout period) so I don't have to type my password every two minutes to
> > > unlock the screen?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > 
> > For Gnome Desktop go to System->Preferences->Look and Feel.
> 
> Thanks! How do I select the kde desktop?

I figured out how to select kde at login, but the kde4 desktop is even
less usuable than gnome. What I want is the ability to add application
icons for Konqueror and Xterm to the bottom system panel as in kde3.
That feature seems to be absent from both gnome and kde4 in F9.

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Re: How to Disable screensaver

2008-09-28 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 04:03:30PM -0600, Peter Reed wrote:
> On Sunday 28 September 2008 02:47:46 pm Dave Feustel wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:48:24PM -0700, Kam Leo wrote:
> > > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > > I'm running F9.  How do I turn off the screensaver (or extend the
> > > > timeout period) so I don't have to type my password every two minutes
> > > > to unlock the screen?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > For Gnome Desktop go to System->Preferences->Look and Feel.
> >
> > Thanks! How do I select the kde desktop?
> 
> 
> For the kde desktop click on the menu > Favorites > System Settings > The 
> Desktop icon >  Screen Saver then under the screen saver settings you will 
> see a check box for start automatically and make sure that box is checked 
> under that will be a check box for use password and how long before you will 
> be asked for a password.
> 
> Peter

Thanks!

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Re: How to Disable screensaver

2008-09-28 Thread Peter Reed
On Sunday 28 September 2008 02:47:46 pm Dave Feustel wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:48:24PM -0700, Kam Leo wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > > I'm running F9.  How do I turn off the screensaver (or extend the
> > > timeout period) so I don't have to type my password every two minutes
> > > to unlock the screen?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> >
> > For Gnome Desktop go to System->Preferences->Look and Feel.
>
> Thanks! How do I select the kde desktop?


For the kde desktop click on the menu > Favorites > System Settings > The 
Desktop icon >  Screen Saver then under the screen saver settings you will 
see a check box for start automatically and make sure that box is checked 
under that will be a check box for use password and how long before you will 
be asked for a password.

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Re: How to Disable screensaver

2008-09-28 Thread Kam Leo
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:48:24PM -0700, Kam Leo wrote:
>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > I'm running F9.  How do I turn off the screensaver (or extend the
>> > timeout period) so I don't have to type my password every two minutes to
>> > unlock the screen?
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>>
>> For Gnome Desktop go to System->Preferences->Look and Feel.
>
> Thanks! How do I select the kde desktop?

For KDE look in System Settings->Look and Feel->Desktop.

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Re: How to Disable screensaver

2008-09-28 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:48:24PM -0700, Kam Leo wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm running F9.  How do I turn off the screensaver (or extend the
> > timeout period) so I don't have to type my password every two minutes to
> > unlock the screen?
> >
> > Thanks.
> 
> For Gnome Desktop go to System->Preferences->Look and Feel.

Thanks! How do I select the kde desktop?

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Re: How to Disable screensaver

2008-09-28 Thread Kam Leo
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm running F9.  How do I turn off the screensaver (or extend the
> timeout period) so I don't have to type my password every two minutes to
> unlock the screen?
>
> Thanks.

For Gnome Desktop go to System->Preferences->Look and Feel.

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How to Disable screensaver

2008-09-28 Thread Dave Feustel
I'm running F9.  How do I turn off the screensaver (or extend the
timeout period) so I don't have to type my password every two minutes to
unlock the screen?

Thanks.

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Re: screensaver on forever

2008-09-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 11:17 -0700, Fred Silsbee wrote:
> How does one keep the screensaver
> 
>  ( Fedora 9,  KDE 4.1,  2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686 )
> 
>  on without ceasing.

I can't imagine why you would want to do that. Perhaps a bit more
explanation is in order. Also, does "without ceasing" mean "even if the
monitor goes to sleep", "even if the user hits a key or moves the
mouse", "even if no-one is logged in", or what?

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screensaver on forever

2008-09-20 Thread Fred Silsbee
How does one keep the screensaver

 ( Fedora 9,  KDE 4.1,  2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686 )

 on without ceasing.



  

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screensaver 'clock'

2008-07-30 Thread Gene Heskett
Is freezing after a few hours & made me think the machine had crashed because 
it should have shut the monitor off after 15 minutes, but moving the mouse 
brought everything back.  Spooky.

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Re: KDE 4.0.4: No screensaver unless

2008-05-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 25 May 2008 16:00:02 Andrea wrote:
> Rex Dieter wrote:
> > Andrea wrote:
> >> To me it did not make any difference.
> >> Screensaver only starts after re applying it.
> >>
> >> Any idea?
> >
> > Can't reproduce here, worksforme.  ??
> >
> > -- Rex
>
> What kind of debug/log tools do I have for the screensaver?
> I've tried playing with xscreensaver, but it looks like a different
> framework. How does it relate to KDE screensavers?

I tried the slide-show screensaver, but it doesn't produce any picture at all, 
just a grey screen.

Anne


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Re: KDE 4.0.4: No screensaver unless

2008-05-25 Thread Andrea

Rex Dieter wrote:

Andrea wrote:


To me it did not make any difference.
Screensaver only starts after re applying it.

Any idea?


Can't reproduce here, worksforme.  ??

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What kind of debug/log tools do I have for the screensaver?
I've tried playing with xscreensaver, but it looks like a different framework. How does it relate to 
KDE screensavers?


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Re: KDE 4.0.4: No screensaver unless

2008-05-25 Thread Rex Dieter
Andrea wrote:

> To me it did not make any difference.
> Screensaver only starts after re applying it.
> 
> Any idea?

Can't reproduce here, worksforme.  ??

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Re: KDE 4.0.4: No screensaver unless

2008-05-25 Thread Andrea

Mike wrote:

Rex Dieter  math.unl.edu> writes:


kdeartwork and kdeartwork-extras contain most of the kde screensavers.  Are
either of these installed on your system?


Thanks Rex - in fact kdeartwork was installed, but kdeartwork-extras was not.
After installing the latter a whole raft of screensavers now are available
in the system-settings area. I was surprised this was not installed by default
during F9 install but anyway I can now play with it... 



To me it did not make any difference.
Screensaver only starts after re applying it.

Any idea?

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Re: KDE 4.0.4: No screensaver unless

2008-05-24 Thread Mike
Rex Dieter  math.unl.edu> writes:

> kdeartwork and kdeartwork-extras contain most of the kde screensavers.  Are
> either of these installed on your system?

Thanks Rex - in fact kdeartwork was installed, but kdeartwork-extras was not.
After installing the latter a whole raft of screensavers now are available
in the system-settings area. I was surprised this was not installed by default
during F9 install but anyway I can now play with it... 




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Re: KDE 4.0.4: No screensaver unless

2008-05-23 Thread Andrea

Andrea wrote:

Rex Dieter wrote:

Mike wrote:


Going back to the original problem: screensaver not starting.
I've tried installing those 2 packages and it made no difference.
Before I used the "blank screen", now I've tried the "clock" and it 
starts only if I reapply in each session of KDE.


I did not remember this issue in KDE 4.0.3.

Andrea



I've added a bugreport

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=448183

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Re: KDE 4.0.4: No screensaver unless

2008-05-23 Thread Andrea

Rex Dieter wrote:

Mike wrote:


How did you get to the screensaver control?
I went to kickoff->system settings->desktop-screen saver and no screen
savers appear to be available apart from the blank screen. I do have
xscreensaver installed. Did you do anything special to get a screensaver
to become available ?


kdeartwork and kdeartwork-extras contain most of the kde screensavers.  Are
either of these installed on your system?

-- Rex




Going back to the original problem: screensaver not starting.
I've tried installing those 2 packages and it made no difference.
Before I used the "blank screen", now I've tried the "clock" and it starts only if I reapply in each 
session of KDE.


I did not remember this issue in KDE 4.0.3.

Andrea

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Re: KDE 4.0.4: No screensaver unless

2008-05-23 Thread Rex Dieter
Mike wrote:

> How did you get to the screensaver control?
> I went to kickoff->system settings->desktop-screen saver and no screen
> savers appear to be available apart from the blank screen. I do have
> xscreensaver installed. Did you do anything special to get a screensaver
> to become available ?

kdeartwork and kdeartwork-extras contain most of the kde screensavers.  Are
either of these installed on your system?

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Re: KDE 4.0.4: No screensaver unless

2008-05-23 Thread Mike
Andrea  googlemail.com> writes:

>Since the big update to KDE 4.0.4 I've noticed that the screensaver only starts
>if I explicitly 
> "Apply" it.
> 
> Basically, the screensaver is always enabled but it kicks in only after
> 1) disable (and Apply)
> 2) reenable (and Apply)

You are luckier than I am - I have not had any screensavers available
in KDE4 including after the update!

How did you get to the screensaver control?
I went to kickoff->system settings->desktop-screen saver and no screen savers
appear to be available apart from the blank screen. I do have xscreensaver
installed. Did you do anything special to get a screensaver to become
available ?



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KDE 4.0.4: No screensaver unless "Apply"

2008-05-23 Thread Andrea

Hi,

Since the big update to KDE 4.0.4 I've noticed that the screensaver only starts if I explicitly 
"Apply" it.


Basically, the screensaver is always enabled but it kicks in only after
1) disable (and Apply)
2) reenable (and Apply)

Anybody has an idea?

Andrea

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