Re: discovering network printers on F11
On Wednesday 16 September 2009 22:40:09 Globe Trotter wrote: --- On Tue, 9/15/09, Anne Wilson an...@kde.org wrote: From: Anne Wilson an...@kde.org Subject: Re: discovering network printers on F11 To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 7:20 AM On Tuesday 15 September 2009 09:37:37 Tim Waugh wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 08:45 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: According to Linux Format this month, if you have SELinux running this is to be expected, so you'll have to look for a way to allow the broadcast through. Eh?? Right or wrong, the statement was that the default SELinux blocked network printers. I haven't got it in front of me, but it went on to say what needed allowing in SELinux to make it work. Don't shoot the messenger ;-) Thanks, Anne. Where is this article? I had mis-remembered. What it actually said (page 10, if you have LXF 124, November) was that the firewall by default turns of multicasting. The 'comment' is a bit of a rant, saying that if something as vital as this is disabled there should be some way of alerting you to it. Btw, I went and disabled selinux using system-config-selinux but the printers were still not discovered. I have reverted it back to enforcing, but I wonder what the problem is, and how to troubleshoot it. That rules out SELinux, then. If you haven't done so, check firewalls - but I think someone already told you to do that. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: discovering network printers on F11
--- On Thu, 9/17/09, Anne Wilson an...@kde.org wrote:
From: Anne Wilson an...@kde.org
Subject: Re: discovering network printers on F11
To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.
fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 6:12 AM
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On
Wednesday 16 September 2009 22:40:09 Globe Trotter
wrote:
--- On Tue, 9/15/09, Anne Wilson an...@kde.org
wrote:
From: Anne Wilson an...@kde.org
Subject: Re: discovering network printers on F11
To: Community assistance, encouragement, and
advice for using Fedora.
fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Tuesday, September
15, 2009, 7:20 AM
On Tuesday 15 September 2009 09:37:37
Tim Waugh wrote:
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 08:45 +0100, Anne Wilson
wrote:
According to Linux Format this month, if you
have
SELinux running this is
to be expected, so you'll have to look
for a way
to allow the broadcast
through.
Eh??
Right or wrong, the statement was that the default
SELinux
blocked network
printers. I haven't got it in front of me, but
it
went on to say what needed
allowing in SELinux to make it work.
Don't shoot the messenger ;-)
Thanks, Anne. Where is this article?
I
had mis-remembered. What it actually said (page 10, if you
have LXF 124, November) was that the firewall by default turns
of multicasting. The 'comment' is a bit of a rant,
saying that if something as vital as this is disabled there
should be some way of alerting you to it.
Hmmmsorry I do not have this, but how do you switch this on? Does anyone
know?
Btw, I went and disabled selinux using
system-config-selinux but the printers were still not
discovered. I have
reverted it back to enforcing, but I wonder what the
problem is, and how
to troubleshoot it.
That
rules out SELinux, then. If you haven't done so, check
firewalls - but I think someone already told you to do
that.
Yes, I poked holes to allow the samba and ipp clients through, as well as the
ipp server. Trouble is, I do not understand what to look for. How do I trouble
shoot when the messages in /var/log/messages do not appear to be beyond the
information I provided. Is there any other place to look at?
The ubuntu machine seems to do just fine in discovering the network printers: I
am just trying to understand what is going on here.
Best wishes,
T
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Re: discovering network printers on F11
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 09:35 -0700, Globe Trotter wrote: had mis-remembered. What it actually said (page 10, if you have LXF 124, November) was that the firewall by default turns of multicasting. The 'comment' is a bit of a rant, saying that if something as vital as this is disabled there should be some way of alerting you to it. Hmmmsorry I do not have this, but how do you switch this on? Does anyone know? Btw, I went and disabled selinux using system-config-selinux but the printers were still not discovered. I have reverted it back to enforcing, but I wonder what the problem is, and how to troubleshoot it. That rules out SELinux, then. If you haven't done so, check firewalls - but I think someone already told you to do that. Yes, I poked holes to allow the samba and ipp clients through, as well as the ipp server. Trouble is, I do not understand what to look for. How do I trouble shoot when the messages in /var/log/messages do not appear to be beyond the information I provided. Is there any other place to look at? The ubuntu machine seems to do just fine in discovering the network printers: I am just trying to understand what is going on here. one of the problems with an active list is that you don't always know whose advice to follow and who is just taking shots in the dark. When it comes to printing ALWAYS follow Tim Waugh's advice because he is Red Hat/Fedora printing man. As far as I can tell, you ignored his advice and chased down everyone else's. You probably haven't enabled your system to discover network servers but I think Tim suggested that you run the 'printing troubleshooter' Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: discovering network printers on F11
--- On Thu, 9/17/09, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: From: Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com Subject: Re: discovering network printers on F11 To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 1:37 PM On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 09:35 -0700, Globe Trotter wrote: had mis-remembered. What it actually said (page 10, if you have LXF 124, November) was that the firewall by default turns of multicasting. The 'comment' is a bit of a rant, saying that if something as vital as this is disabled there should be some way of alerting you to it. Hmmmsorry I do not have this, but how do you switch this on? Does anyone know? Btw, I went and disabled selinux using system-config-selinux but the printers were still not discovered. I have reverted it back to enforcing, but I wonder what the problem is, and how to troubleshoot it. That rules out SELinux, then. If you haven't done so, check firewalls - but I think someone already told you to do that. Yes, I poked holes to allow the samba and ipp clients through, as well as the ipp server. Trouble is, I do not understand what to look for. How do I trouble shoot when the messages in /var/log/messages do not appear to be beyond the information I provided. Is there any other place to look at? The ubuntu machine seems to do just fine in discovering the network printers: I am just trying to understand what is going on here. one of the problems with an active list is that you don't always know whose advice to follow and who is just taking shots in the dark. When it comes to printing ALWAYS follow Tim Waugh's advice because he is Red Hat/Fedora printing man. As far as I can tell, you ignored his advice and chased down everyone else's. You probably haven't enabled your system to discover network servers but I think Tim suggested that you run the 'printing troubleshooter' Hi, I did not know that Tim was the printing man, but I did run the printing troubleshooter (which for me is the Troubleshoot button on system-config-printer, is that the right thing?) Sorry to be naive, but how does one enable the system to discover network servers? Thanks very much, everybody, for all the help and advice. T -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: discovering network printers on F11
--- On Mon, 9/14/09, Richard England rlengl...@verizon.net wrote: From: Richard England rlengl...@verizon.net Subject: Re: discovering network printers on F11 To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 9:41 PM On 09/14/2009 03:35 PM, Globe Trotter wrote: --- On Mon, 9/14/09, Stefanostef...@darchino.ch wrote: From: Stefanostef...@darchino.ch Subject: Re: discovering network printers on F11 To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 4:46 PM On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Globe Trotteritsme_...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to discover network printers on F11: I fire up system-config-printer and ask for this to be searched but nothing is found. However, system-config-printer when run on ubuntu is able to find the printers without a hitch at all. What is the setting that is not set right on F11, and how do I fix it? Hi Tray to enable client ipp, for network print, in Firewall (see in System Administration). Bye Ste Hi, Thanks very much! I enabled this (as well as the ipp server) but it had no effect: clicking on the search for network printers and got nothing. My /var/log messages reported the following lines: hp: io/hpmud/pp.c 627: unable to read device-id ret=-1 python: io/hpmud/pp.c 627: unable to read device-id ret=-1 Any suggestions? Best, T Are the printers truly network printers or are they printers attached to other systems (and what are these systems if they exist)? If the other printers are on Windows, have you tried enabling samba ports on the firewall? Hi, Thanks so much! I went back and enabled both the Samba and Samba Client options on my firewall. Do I need both? Even then, no luck. I am not sure what these other systems you refer to are. They may either be Windoze XP (most likely) or RHEL (4 or 5). How can I find out? Best wishes, T -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: discovering network printers on F11
--- On Tue, 9/15/09, Anne Wilson an...@kde.org wrote: From: Anne Wilson an...@kde.org Subject: Re: discovering network printers on F11 To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 7:20 AM On Tuesday 15 September 2009 09:37:37 Tim Waugh wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 08:45 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: According to Linux Format this month, if you have SELinux running this is to be expected, so you'll have to look for a way to allow the broadcast through. Eh?? Right or wrong, the statement was that the default SELinux blocked network printers. I haven't got it in front of me, but it went on to say what needed allowing in SELinux to make it work. Don't shoot the messenger ;-) Thanks, Anne. Where is this article? Btw, I went and disabled selinux using system-config-selinux but the printers were still not discovered. I have reverted it back to enforcing, but I wonder what the problem is, and how to troubleshoot it. Best wishes, Trotter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: discovering network printers on F11
On Monday 14 September 2009 21:35:05 Globe Trotter wrote: Hi, I am trying to discover network printers on F11: I fire up system-config-printer and ask for this to be searched but nothing is found. However, system-config-printer when run on ubuntu is able to find the printers without a hitch at all. What is the setting that is not set right on F11, and how do I fix it? According to Linux Format this month, if you have SELinux running this is to be expected, so you'll have to look for a way to allow the broadcast through. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: discovering network printers on F11
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 08:45 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: According to Linux Format this month, if you have SELinux running this is to be expected, so you'll have to look for a way to allow the broadcast through. Eh?? Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: discovering network printers on F11
On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 15:35 -0700, Globe Trotter wrote: Thanks very much! I enabled this (as well as the ipp server) but it had no effect: clicking on the search for network printers and got nothing. My /var/log messages reported the following lines: Is 'Show printers shared by other systems' enabled in the server settings (Server-Settings... from the system-config-printer menu)? If it is, and your firewall is set to enable UDP packets in on port 631 (IPP client), the printing troubleshooter might be able to tell you waht's wrong: Help-Troubleshoot. Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: discovering network printers on F11
On Tuesday 15 September 2009 09:37:37 Tim Waugh wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 08:45 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: According to Linux Format this month, if you have SELinux running this is to be expected, so you'll have to look for a way to allow the broadcast through. Eh?? Right or wrong, the statement was that the default SELinux blocked network printers. I haven't got it in front of me, but it went on to say what needed allowing in SELinux to make it work. Don't shoot the messenger ;-) Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: discovering network printers on F11
Globe Trotter: I am trying to discover network printers on F11: I fire up system-config-printer and ask for this to be searched but nothing is found. However, system-config-printer when run on ubuntu is able to find the printers without a hitch at all. What is the setting that is not set right on F11, and how do I fix it? Anne Wilson: According to Linux Format this month, if you have SELinux running this is to be expected, so you'll have to look for a way to allow the broadcast through. I didn't have to fiddle with SELinux to get my Fedora 11 installation to find the printers on my LAN (one served from an old Fedora Core 4 installation, and another from a Fedora 7). All I had to do was make sure that Fedora 11's firewall allowed the CUPS client. I didn't look for a printer using system-config-printer, though. I visited http://localhost:631/printers/, and waited for it to show up. There's some delay, but I don't recall that the scan period is very long. Restarting a CUPS client or server usually produces quicker results for the impatient. There's an option to show printers shared by other systems that's ticked on the http://localhost:631/admin page (which means to *show* printers elsewhere on your LAN, as opposed to just the ones directly connected to the computer you're working on), but I think that was already ticked by default. If your remote printer that you're unable to find is on a different sub-net (e.g. 192.168.1.x versus 192.168.2.x), you may need play with more settings on the server. -- The gates in my computer are AND, OR and NOT; they are not Bill. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
discovering network printers on F11
Hi, I am trying to discover network printers on F11: I fire up system-config-printer and ask for this to be searched but nothing is found. However, system-config-printer when run on ubuntu is able to find the printers without a hitch at all. What is the setting that is not set right on F11, and how do I fix it? best wishes, Trotter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: discovering network printers on F11
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Globe Trotter itsme_...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to discover network printers on F11: I fire up system-config-printer and ask for this to be searched but nothing is found. However, system-config-printer when run on ubuntu is able to find the printers without a hitch at all. What is the setting that is not set right on F11, and how do I fix it? Hi Tray to enable client ipp, for network print, in Firewall (see in System Administration). Bye Ste best wishes, Trotter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: discovering network printers on F11
--- On Mon, 9/14/09, Stefano stef...@darchino.ch wrote: From: Stefano stef...@darchino.ch Subject: Re: discovering network printers on F11 To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 4:46 PM On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Globe Trotter itsme_...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to discover network printers on F11: I fire up system-config-printer and ask for this to be searched but nothing is found. However, system-config-printer when run on ubuntu is able to find the printers without a hitch at all. What is the setting that is not set right on F11, and how do I fix it? Hi Tray to enable client ipp, for network print, in Firewall (see in System Administration). Bye Ste Hi, Thanks very much! I enabled this (as well as the ipp server) but it had no effect: clicking on the search for network printers and got nothing. My /var/log messages reported the following lines: hp: io/hpmud/pp.c 627: unable to read device-id ret=-1 python: io/hpmud/pp.c 627: unable to read device-id ret=-1 Any suggestions? Best, T -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: discovering network printers on F11
On 09/14/2009 03:35 PM, Globe Trotter wrote: --- On Mon, 9/14/09, Stefanostef...@darchino.ch wrote: From: Stefanostef...@darchino.ch Subject: Re: discovering network printers on F11 To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 4:46 PM On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Globe Trotteritsme_...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to discover network printers on F11: I fire up system-config-printer and ask for this to be searched but nothing is found. However, system-config-printer when run on ubuntu is able to find the printers without a hitch at all. What is the setting that is not set right on F11, and how do I fix it? Hi Tray to enable client ipp, for network print, in Firewall (see in System Administration). Bye Ste Hi, Thanks very much! I enabled this (as well as the ipp server) but it had no effect: clicking on the search for network printers and got nothing. My /var/log messages reported the following lines: hp: io/hpmud/pp.c 627: unable to read device-id ret=-1 python: io/hpmud/pp.c 627: unable to read device-id ret=-1 Any suggestions? Best, T Are the printers truly network printers or are they printers attached to other systems (and what are these systems if they exist)? If the other printers are on Windows, have you tried enabling samba ports on the firewall? -- /~~R/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
