Re: fedora LTS , why not?
Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:
why not contribute with fedora and rpmfusion ?
the only reason to fedora doesn't have LTS is the man power.
There used to be a Fedora Legacy which had similar goals, and
which failed partially because of lack of people willing to
donate time, and partially because the churn of Fedora was
reduced.
Respins already exist, CentOS and Scientific Linux spring
to mind.
Mike
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Re: fedora LTS , why not?
Well, I think that I have chosen a bad subject for this discussion. I wanted to focus about the multimedia aspect and that there are a big variety software in Fedora. That may make the newbies a bit disturbed at the beginning. Any way, I will concentrate to contribute (me and some of my student) to contribute in fedora. What do you think about making media player detect the missing codecs and ask to download them automatically (install rpmfusion and download the needed packages). I have never contributed before. How long time do you think that such implemented function need to be implemented. Regards Adel 2009/3/22 Jeff Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Tosh toshli...@gmail.com wrote: Please note, CentOS IS A COMMERCIAL SUCCESS Many bigger enterprises use CentOS, but they do not advertise it and it is very popular for small medium enterprises CentOS/Fedora does lacks the same consumer fame like Ubuntu Two main reasons according to me : (1) Commercial backing = limited funding = less advertisement (2) Perception amongst users and the media = leading to less knowledge how to use the product It might be worth suggesting to the CentOS developer community to look at adopting MirrorManager and its support for local network mirror administration and to start to collect aggregate data concerning the number of client systems looking at the centralized Centos MirrorManager instance. Getting hard numbers on the number of Centos installs the same way Fedora is could really help raise the level of awareness of how pervasise Cento is is out in the wild. I think Centos is flying under the radar a bit too much, but for that to change Centos users need to be encouraged to be a little more vocal about its use. -jef. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:20:42 +0100 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I see that many of you point me to centOs. The idea is interresting. However, why centOs is not as known as ubuntu. The main advantage in ubunti (in my point of view) is LTS and codecs! Why centOS is not a commercial success? I wasn't that Ubuntu was either.. CentOS isn't trying to be a commercial success. It's trying to be a community distribution. To be a commercial success you need business support services, training and all the other stuff - at which point you are looking at things like Red Hat Enterprise Linux. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
Adel ESSAFI wrote: Well, I think that I have chosen a bad subject for this discussion. I wanted to focus about the multimedia aspect and that there are a big variety software in Fedora. That may make the newbies a bit disturbed at the beginning. Any way, I will concentrate to contribute (me and some of my student) to contribute in fedora. What do you think about making media player detect the missing codecs and ask to download them automatically (install rpmfusion and download the needed packages). I have never contributed before. How long time do you think that such implemented function need to be implemented. PackageKit already implements similar functionality. It detects and automatically installs the right codecs if it is available in the repository. The problem is not technical. It is a legal issue. We are not allowed to pull in patent encumbered software from other repository. That is the same as including it by default. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
Well, I see that many of you point me to centOs. The idea is interresting. However, why centOs is not as known as ubuntu. The main advantage in ubunti (in my point of view) is LTS and codecs! Why centOS is not a commercial success? regards Adel 2009/3/20 Tosh toshli...@gmail.com Adel ESSAFI wrote: Hi list I was using fedora and redhat since 2000. To day, I can see that our favorite distro is really very strong. However, I have done some experience (short) with Ubuntu and I have liked to LTS concept (Long Term support). My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with 1. LTS 2. with a very reduce number of packages 3. with proprietary codecs and essentiel software (mp3, flash ) included in. I know that the variety of the open source projects are making it's power. However, I aim to build a distribution with only one software from each catégory. That is, I have to choose between: * KDE and GNOME for the destop * rhythembox , kaffeine, ... as media player * abiword or openoffice as office writer . Technically, I will maintain a repository with a reduced number of packages. If I get positive feed back from this list, I can start working on this project in july This distribution will be very useful for starter!! Best regards Adel -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 first and for all I wish to expand on the current responses as you may kwow by now fedora - 9 months release base - 18 months support base centos/rhel - 4 years release base - 7 years support base I suggest you take centos and work from there, most of the work is already done for you, and you can maybe contribute to rpmforge or my new repo to increase the package set I hope to setup my repo this weekend, giving centos gnumeric and abiword and audacious (with mp3 support) as these are missing in rpmforge due to some dependencies that cannot be included at the moment in rpmforge or you could go with fedora epel imho, there is no need to reinvent the wheel, if you are not going to improve the wheel :) -- Toshaan toshli...@gmail.com - http://www.toshaan.be -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com: I see that many of you point me to centOs. The idea is interresting. However, why centOs is not as known as ubuntu. The main advantage in ubunti (in my point of view) is LTS and codecs! Why centOS is not a commercial success? CentOS is a success. I've been looking for a new job recently and lots of medium-sized businesses are using CentOS. In my limited experience I have only found one company asking for Ubuntu experience. Ubuntu's codec support is also no different to Fedora - it's not in the main repositories, you have to enable universe, just like you have to enable rpmfusion for Fedora. However, CentOS isn't used as much in large organisations - they tend (as my current employer does) to use Red Hat Enterprise Linux, because it is certified by lots of application and hardware vendors and can be purchased with support contracts which they have the money to buy. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
On 3/21/09, Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I see that many of you point me to centOs. The idea is interresting. However, why centOs is not as known as ubuntu. The main advantage in ubunti (in my point of view) is LTS and codecs! Why centOS is not a commercial success? Because it's not a commercial enterprise. Andras -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
2009/3/21 Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.comsam.sharpe%2blists.red...@gmail.com 2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com: I see that many of you point me to centOs. The idea is interresting. However, why centOs is not as known as ubuntu. The main advantage in ubunti (in my point of view) is LTS and codecs! Why centOS is not a commercial success? CentOS is a success. I've been looking for a new job recently and lots of medium-sized businesses are using CentOS. In my limited experience I have only found one company asking for Ubuntu experience. Ubuntu's codec support is also no different to Fedora - it's not in the main repositories, you have to enable universe, just like you have to enable rpmfusion for Fedora. I agree. But, things looks easier in ubuntu! The coded is loaded automatically (afte a confirmation from the user). Why such features are not avalaible in Fedora! Regards However, CentOS isn't used as much in large organisations - they tend (as my current employer does) to use Red Hat Enterprise Linux, because it is certified by lots of application and hardware vendors and can be purchased with support contracts which they have the money to buy. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adel.s...@imag.fr 2009/3/21 Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.comsam.sharpe%2blists.red...@gmail.com 2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com: I see that many of you point me to centOs. The idea is interresting. However, why centOs is not as known as ubuntu. The main advantage in ubunti (in my point of view) is LTS and codecs! Why centOS is not a commercial success? CentOS is a success. I've been looking for a new job recently and lots of medium-sized businesses are using CentOS. In my limited experience I have only found one company asking for Ubuntu experience. Ubuntu's codec support is also no different to Fedora - it's not in the main repositories, you have to enable universe, just like you have to enable rpmfusion for Fedora. I agree. But, things looks easier in ubuntu! The coded is loaded automatically (afte a confirmation from the user). Why such features are not avalaible in Fedora! Regards However, CentOS isn't used as much in large organisations - they tend (as my current employer does) to use Red Hat Enterprise Linux, because it is certified by lots of application and hardware vendors and can be purchased with support contracts which they have the money to buy. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
On Saturday 21 March 2009 11:09:06 Adel ESSAFI wrote: 2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adel.s...@imag.fr 2009/3/21 Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.comsam.sharpe%2blists.red...@gmail.com 2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com: I see that many of you point me to centOs. The idea is interresting. However, why centOs is not as known as ubuntu. The main advantage in ubunti (in my point of view) is LTS and codecs! Why centOS is not a commercial success? CentOS is a success. I've been looking for a new job recently and lots of medium-sized businesses are using CentOS. In my limited experience I have only found one company asking for Ubuntu experience. Ubuntu's codec support is also no different to Fedora - it's not in the main repositories, you have to enable universe, just like you have to enable rpmfusion for Fedora. I agree. But, things looks easier in ubuntu! The coded is loaded automatically (afte a confirmation from the user). Why such features are not avalaible in Fedora! That is mostly an illusion created somewhat by the ubuntu user community. You said things look easier. Like what? Could you give a good example? The codecs are installed the same way and used the same way in both ubuntu and CentOS/Fedora. Regards However, CentOS isn't used as much in large organisations - they tend (as my current employer does) to use Red Hat Enterprise Linux, because it is certified by lots of application and hardware vendors and can be purchased with support contracts which they have the money to buy. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
2009/3/20 Armin amor...@fedoraproject.org On Saturday 21 March 2009 11:09:06 Adel ESSAFI wrote: 2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adel.s...@imag.fr 2009/3/21 Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.comsam.sharpe%2blists.red...@gmail.com sam.sharpe%2blists.red...@gmail.comsam.sharpe%252blists.red...@gmail.com 2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com: I see that many of you point me to centOs. The idea is interresting. However, why centOs is not as known as ubuntu. The main advantage in ubunti (in my point of view) is LTS and codecs! Why centOS is not a commercial success? CentOS is a success. I've been looking for a new job recently and lots of medium-sized businesses are using CentOS. In my limited experience I have only found one company asking for Ubuntu experience. Ubuntu's codec support is also no different to Fedora - it's not in the main repositories, you have to enable universe, just like you have to enable rpmfusion for Fedora. I agree. But, things looks easier in ubuntu! The coded is loaded automatically (afte a confirmation from the user). Why such features are not avalaible in Fedora! That is mostly an illusion created somewhat by the ubuntu user community. You said things look easier. Like what? Could you give a good example? ** For this example: I mean that some ubuntu multimedia software ask you installing codecs when needed!! And they install the appropriate one. This unfortunatly does not exist in Fedora Regards The codecs are installed the same way and used the same way in both ubuntu and CentOS/Fedora. Regards However, CentOS isn't used as much in large organisations - they tend (as my current employer does) to use Red Hat Enterprise Linux, because it is certified by lots of application and hardware vendors and can be purchased with support contracts which they have the money to buy. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adel.s...@imag.fr 2009/3/20 Armin amor...@fedoraproject.org On Saturday 21 March 2009 11:09:06 Adel ESSAFI wrote: 2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adel.s...@imag.fr 2009/3/21 Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.comsam.sharpe%2blists.red...@gmail.com sam.sharpe%2blists.red...@gmail.comsam.sharpe%252blists.red...@gmail.com 2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com: I see that many of you point me to centOs. The idea is interresting. However, why centOs is not as known as ubuntu. The main advantage in ubunti (in my point of view) is LTS and codecs! Why centOS is not a commercial success? CentOS is a success. I've been looking for a new job recently and lots of medium-sized businesses are using CentOS. In my limited experience I have only found one company asking for Ubuntu experience. Ubuntu's codec support is also no different to Fedora - it's not in the main repositories, you have to enable universe, just like you have to enable rpmfusion for Fedora. I agree. But, things looks easier in ubuntu! The coded is loaded automatically (afte a confirmation from the user). Why such features are not avalaible in Fedora! That is mostly an illusion created somewhat by the ubuntu user community. You said things look easier. Like what? Could you give a good example? ** For this example: I mean that some ubuntu multimedia software ask you installing codecs when needed!! And they install the appropriate one. This unfortunatly does not exist in Fedora Regards The codecs are installed the same way and used the same way in both ubuntu and CentOS/Fedora. Regards However, CentOS isn't used as much in large organisations - they tend (as my current employer does) to use Red Hat Enterprise Linux, because it is certified by lots of application and hardware vendors and can be purchased with support contracts which they have the money to buy. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
Adel ESSAFI wrote: For this example: I mean that some ubuntu multimedia software ask you installing codecs when needed!! And they install the appropriate one. This unfortunatly does not exist in Fedora Unfortunately, pointing you to codecs which are illegal in the US is also illegal in the US. Ubuntu gets away with it because Canonical is based in the Isle of Man, not in the US. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
Adel ESSAFI wrote: 2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adel.s...@imag.fr mailto:adel.s...@imag.fr 2009/3/20 Armin amor...@fedoraproject.org mailto:amor...@fedoraproject.org On Saturday 21 March 2009 11:09:06 Adel ESSAFI wrote: 2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adel.s...@imag.fr mailto:adel.s...@imag.fr 2009/3/21 Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com mailto:sam.sharpe%2blists.red...@gmail.comsam.sharpe%2blists.red...@gmail.com mailto:sam.sharpe%252blists.red...@gmail.com 2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com mailto:adeless...@gmail.com: I see that many of you point me to centOs. The idea is interresting. However, why centOs is not as known as ubuntu. The main advantage in ubunti (in my point of view) is LTS and codecs! Why centOS is not a commercial success? CentOS is a success. I've been looking for a new job recently and lots of medium-sized businesses are using CentOS. In my limited experience I have only found one company asking for Ubuntu experience. Ubuntu's codec support is also no different to Fedora - it's not in the main repositories, you have to enable universe, just like you have to enable rpmfusion for Fedora. I agree. But, things looks easier in ubuntu! The coded is loaded automatically (afte a confirmation from the user). Why such features are not avalaible in Fedora! That is mostly an illusion created somewhat by the ubuntu user community. You said things look easier. Like what? Could you give a good example? ** For this example: I mean that some ubuntu multimedia software ask you installing codecs when needed!! And they install the appropriate one. This unfortunatly does not exist in Fedora Regards The codecs are installed the same way and used the same way in both ubuntu and CentOS/Fedora. Regards However, CentOS isn't used as much in large organisations - they tend (as my current employer does) to use Red Hat Enterprise Linux, because it is certified by lots of application and hardware vendors and can be purchased with support contracts which they have the money to buy. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 Please note, CentOS IS A COMMERCIAL SUCCESS Many bigger enterprises use CentOS, but they do not advertise it and it is very popular for small medium enterprises CentOS/Fedora does lacks the same consumer fame like Ubuntu Two main reasons according to me : (1) Commercial backing = limited funding = less advertisement (2) Perception amongst users and the media = leading to less knowledge how to use the product -- Toshaan toshli...@gmail.com - http://www.toshaan.be -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
--- On Sat, 3/21/09, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: From: Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at Subject: Re: fedora LTS , why not? To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 1:54 PM Adel ESSAFI wrote: For this example: I mean that some ubuntu multimedia software ask you installing codecs when needed!! And they install the appropriate one. This unfortunatly does not exist in Fedora Unfortunately, pointing you to codecs which are illegal in the US is also illegal in the US. Ubuntu gets away with it because Canonical is based in the Isle of Man, not in the US. Kevin Kofler -- I can understand the LTS support complaints, but CentOS, Scientific and others address this, but as far as the codecs part. There is a CD out there with everything prepackaged and Fedora based: http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-announce/2008-12/msg7.html http://reddevil62-techhead.blogspot.com/2008/10/omega-10-live-cd-beta-fedora-with-added.html It is installable and has the packages(which are easily installed otherwise by the way) that the users in this thread are asking for. I wonder sometimes if people know about this, it seems that they don't know about it. I hope that the work of several people who have taken the time to work on such projects get the notice that they deserver :) Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
Antonio Olivares wrote: I can understand the LTS support complaints, but CentOS, Scientific and others address this, but as far as the codecs part. There is a CD out there with everything prepackaged and Fedora based: ... where everything doesn't include KDE. IMHO that CD is completely useless. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 21:54 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Unfortunately, pointing you to codecs which are illegal in the US is also illegal in the US. Ubuntu gets away with it because Canonical is based in the Isle of Man, not in the US. Canonical is Registered in the Isle of Man, their main offices are in London. Ubuntu (and Debian) get away with it because their U.S. servers do not offer software the US government deems illegal as that has legal implications for their project and developers. However, those in the US can configure their apt-sources to download from servers outside of the U.S. That, however, possibly puts the individual in a less than desirable position. Kind Regards, Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
Kevin Kofler wrote: Antonio Olivares wrote: I can understand the LTS support complaints, but CentOS, Scientific and others address this, but as far as the codecs part. There is a CD out there with everything prepackaged and Fedora based: ... where everything doesn't include KDE. IMHO that CD is completely useless. Kevin Kofler i think by now this list knows exactly how you feel about kde, and those who don't feel the same as you ;), but fortunately not everyone has to like the same things :) phil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
For this example: I mean that some ubuntu multimedia software ask you installing codecs when needed!! And they install the appropriate one. This unfortunatly does not exist in Fedora Regards That codec-buddy, I saw it first in Fedora! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Tosh toshli...@gmail.com wrote: Please note, CentOS IS A COMMERCIAL SUCCESS Many bigger enterprises use CentOS, but they do not advertise it and it is very popular for small medium enterprises CentOS/Fedora does lacks the same consumer fame like Ubuntu Two main reasons according to me : (1) Commercial backing = limited funding = less advertisement (2) Perception amongst users and the media = leading to less knowledge how to use the product It might be worth suggesting to the CentOS developer community to look at adopting MirrorManager and its support for local network mirror administration and to start to collect aggregate data concerning the number of client systems looking at the centralized Centos MirrorManager instance. Getting hard numbers on the number of Centos installs the same way Fedora is could really help raise the level of awareness of how pervasise Cento is is out in the wild. I think Centos is flying under the radar a bit too much, but for that to change Centos users need to be encouraged to be a little more vocal about its use. -jef. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
Adel ESSAFI wrote: Hi list I was using fedora and redhat since 2000. To day, I can see that our favorite distro is really very strong. However, I have done some experience (short) with Ubuntu and I have liked to LTS concept (Long Term support). My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with 1. LTS 2. with a very reduce number of packages 3. with proprietary codecs and essentiel software (mp3, flash ) included in. I know that the variety of the open source projects are making it's power. However, I aim to build a distribution with only one software from each catégory. That is, I have to choose between: * KDE and GNOME for the destop * rhythembox , kaffeine, ... as media player * abiword or openoffice as office writer . Technically, I will maintain a repository with a reduced number of packages. If I get positive feed back from this list, I can start working on this project in july This distribution will be very useful for starter!! Best regards Adel -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 first and for all I wish to expand on the current responses as you may kwow by now fedora - 9 months release base - 18 months support base centos/rhel - 4 years release base - 7 years support base I suggest you take centos and work from there, most of the work is already done for you, and you can maybe contribute to rpmforge or my new repo to increase the package set I hope to setup my repo this weekend, giving centos gnumeric and abiword and audacious (with mp3 support) as these are missing in rpmforge due to some dependencies that cannot be included at the moment in rpmforge or you could go with fedora epel imho, there is no need to reinvent the wheel, if you are not going to improve the wheel :) -- Toshaan toshli...@gmail.com - http://www.toshaan.be -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
fedora LTS , why not?
Hi list I was using fedora and redhat since 2000. To day, I can see that our favorite distro is really very strong. However, I have done some experience (short) with Ubuntu and I have liked to LTS concept (Long Term support). My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with 1. LTS 2. with a very reduce number of packages 3. with proprietary codecs and essentiel software (mp3, flash ) included in. I know that the variety of the open source projects are making it's power. However, I aim to build a distribution with only one software from each catégory. That is, I have to choose between: * KDE and GNOME for the destop * rhythembox , kaffeine, ... as media player * abiword or openoffice as office writer . Technically, I will maintain a repository with a reduced number of packages. If I get positive feed back from this list, I can start working on this project in july This distribution will be very useful for starter!! Best regards Adel -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
GOOD IDEA! 2009/3/19 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com Hi list I was using fedora and redhat since 2000. To day, I can see that our favorite distro is really very strong. However, I have done some experience (short) with Ubuntu and I have liked to LTS concept (Long Term support). My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with 1. LTS 2. with a very reduce number of packages 3. with proprietary codecs and essentiel software (mp3, flash ) included in. I know that the variety of the open source projects are making it's power. However, I aim to build a distribution with only one software from each catégory. That is, I have to choose between: * KDE and GNOME for the destop * rhythembox , kaffeine, ... as media player * abiword or openoffice as office writer . Technically, I will maintain a repository with a reduced number of packages. If I get positive feed back from this list, I can start working on this project in july This distribution will be very useful for starter!! Best regards Adel -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
Hi Adel sounds very interesting to me. suomi Adel ESSAFI wrote: Hi list I was using fedora and redhat since 2000. To day, I can see that our favorite distro is really very strong. However, I have done some experience (short) with Ubuntu and I have liked to LTS concept (Long Term support). My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with 1. LTS 2. with a very reduce number of packages 3. with proprietary codecs and essentiel software (mp3, flash ) included in. I know that the variety of the open source projects are making it's power. However, I aim to build a distribution with only one software from each catégory. That is, I have to choose between: * KDE and GNOME for the destop * rhythembox , kaffeine, ... as media player * abiword or openoffice as office writer . Technically, I will maintain a repository with a reduced number of packages. If I get positive feed back from this list, I can start working on this project in july This distribution will be very useful for starter!! Best regards Adel -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with 1. LTS 2. with a very reduce number of packages Sounds good. 3. with proprietary codecs and essentiel software (mp3, flash ) included in. Please be careful with the codecs and proprietary licenses involved in it. Rest all is very good. But the thing is that we already have custom spins like Fedora-KDE and others. I don't really understand the need for this. You can do it for your own purpose and maintain a small offline repo if you like but if you have access to high speed internet, why bother making a small repo anyways. Believe me, I have already done a small barebone repo distributable on cds and only comes to limited help during installation on some computer which does not have access to internet. Otherwise its of little use. Regards -- Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury Fedora Ambassador sherry...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
2009/3/19 Itamar Reis Peixoto ita...@ispbrasil.com.br why not contribute with fedora and rpmfusion ? Normal users find this complicated (linux fans are more competent than usual users) ;) the only reason to fedora doesn't have LTS is the man power. 2009/3/19 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com: Hi list I was using fedora and redhat since 2000. To day, I can see that our favorite distro is really very strong. However, I have done some experience (short) with Ubuntu and I have liked to LTS concept (Long Term support). My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with 1. LTS 2. with a very reduce number of packages 3. with proprietary codecs and essentiel software (mp3, flash ) included in. I know that the variety of the open source projects are making it's power. However, I aim to build a distribution with only one software from each catégory. That is, I have to choose between: * KDE and GNOME for the destop * rhythembox , kaffeine, ... as media player * abiword or openoffice as office writer . Technically, I will maintain a repository with a reduced number of packages. If I get positive feed back from this list, I can start working on this project in july This distribution will be very useful for starter!! Best regards Adel -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- Itamar Reis Peixoto e-mail/msn: ita...@ispbrasil.com.br sip: ita...@ispbrasil.com.br skype: itamarjp icq: 81053601 +55 11 4063 5033 +55 34 3221 8599 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
Adel ESSAFI wrote: However, I aim to build a distribution with only one software from each catégory. That may sound like a good idea at first, but at the end nobody will agree about what that only one software will be in each case, and you'll definitely get lots of complaints about your arbitrary choices. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
2009/3/19, Rangeen Basu sherry...@gmail.com: My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with 1. LTS 2. with a very reduce number of packages Sounds good. 3. with proprietary codecs and essentiel software (mp3, flash ) included in. Please be careful with the codecs and proprietary licenses involved in it. Rest all is very good. But the thing is that we already have custom spins like Fedora-KDE and others. I don't really understand the need for this. Well, In fact I am assistant teacher in a high school and I have been in contact with a variety of people with different level. All of them find some problems with the variety existing in linux (many desktops, many software with unsuel names xmms for example) . I aim to make something that is really simple and that make the migration to fedora easier than ever. I don't know how hard is this task but I will try to make it hoping that it will find some success Regards You can do it for your own purpose and maintain a small offline repo if you like but if you have access to high speed internet, why bother making a small repo anyways. Believe me, I have already done a small barebone repo distributable on cds and only comes to limited help during installation on some computer which does not have access to internet. Otherwise its of little use. Regards -- Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury Fedora Ambassador sherry...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
why not contribute with fedora and rpmfusion ? the only reason to fedora doesn't have LTS is the man power. 2009/3/19 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com: Hi list I was using fedora and redhat since 2000. To day, I can see that our favorite distro is really very strong. However, I have done some experience (short) with Ubuntu and I have liked to LTS concept (Long Term support). My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with 1. LTS 2. with a very reduce number of packages 3. with proprietary codecs and essentiel software (mp3, flash ) included in. I know that the variety of the open source projects are making it's power. However, I aim to build a distribution with only one software from each catégory. That is, I have to choose between: * KDE and GNOME for the destop * rhythembox , kaffeine, ... as media player * abiword or openoffice as office writer . Technically, I will maintain a repository with a reduced number of packages. If I get positive feed back from this list, I can start working on this project in july This distribution will be very useful for starter!! Best regards Adel -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- Itamar Reis Peixoto e-mail/msn: ita...@ispbrasil.com.br sip: ita...@ispbrasil.com.br skype: itamarjp icq: 81053601 +55 11 4063 5033 +55 34 3221 8599 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
On Thursday 19 March 2009 05:35:16 Adel ESSAFI wrote: Hi list I was using fedora and redhat since 2000. To day, I can see that our favorite distro is really very strong. However, I have done some experience (short) with Ubuntu and I have liked to LTS concept (Long Term support). My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with 1. LTS 2. with a very reduce number of packages 3. with proprietary codecs and essentiel software (mp3, flash ) included in. I know that the variety of the open source projects are making it's power. However, I aim to build a distribution with only one software from each catégory. That is, I have to choose between: * KDE and GNOME for the destop * rhythembox , kaffeine, ... as media player * abiword or openoffice as office writer . Technically, I will maintain a repository with a reduced number of packages. If I get positive feed back from this list, I can start working on this project in july This distribution will be very useful for starter!! Best regards Adel -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ That, my friend, is called RHEL. :) -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
On Thursday 19 March 2009 05:35:16 Adel ESSAFI wrote: Hi list I was using fedora and redhat since 2000. To day, I can see that our favorite distro is really very strong. However, I have done some experience (short) with Ubuntu and I have liked to LTS concept (Long Term support). My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with 1. LTS 2. with a very reduce number of packages 3. with proprietary codecs and essentiel software (mp3, flash ) included in. I know that the variety of the open source projects are making it's power. However, I aim to build a distribution with only one software from each catégory. That is, I have to choose between: * KDE and GNOME for the destop * rhythembox , kaffeine, ... as media player * abiword or openoffice as office writer . Technically, I will maintain a repository with a reduced number of packages. If I get positive feed back from this list, I can start working on this project in july This distribution will be very useful for starter!! Best regards Adel -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ Or, why bother with RHEL? CentOs is there to help you! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
Adel ESSAFI wrote: My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with 1. LTS 2. with a very reduce number of packages I don't mean to rain on your parade, but I think you underestimate the amount of effort involved in this. Fedora is a community with many members, and there still isn't enough manpower for an LTS release. The Fedora Legacy group already had a run at this, and eventually shut down for exactly that reason. People who are interested in something with a long lifetime are already using something else. If you're interested in a GNU/Linux system with a long support lifetime and no charge, I'd suggest using CentOS. Join up. Put your effort into supporting their work, and when you see what's involved, you'll be glad you didn't try to do it on your own. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
On Thursday 19 March 2009 08:10:11 Adel ESSAFI wrote: 2009/3/19 Itamar Reis Peixoto ita...@ispbrasil.com.br why not contribute with fedora and rpmfusion ? Normal users find this complicated (linux fans are more competent than usual users) ;) I have to agree with this point. Linux and its community really make you WANT to get involved. It's such a joy working with other open developers around the world. And plus, in the open community, there is a place for everyone. Why don't you make a Fedora re-spin for your class? It's dead easy! http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ sounds like an interesting blog! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
On Thursday 19 March 2009 12:07:42 Gordon Messmer wrote: Adel ESSAFI wrote: My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with 1. LTS 2. with a very reduce number of packages I don't mean to rain on your parade, but I think you underestimate the amount of effort involved in this. Fedora is a community with many members, and there still isn't enough manpower for an LTS release. The Fedora Legacy group already had a run at this, and eventually shut down for exactly that reason. People who are interested in something with a long lifetime are already using something else. If you're interested in a GNU/Linux system with a long support lifetime and no charge, I'd suggest using CentOS. Join up. Put your effort into supporting their work, and when you see what's involved, you'll be glad you didn't try to do it on your own. To be realistic (correct me if I'm wrong), RHEL is Fedora's LTS. And CentOS is the free clone of RHEL. Therefore, CentOS is Fedora's LTS. (I used pure logic here :) ) -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
2009/3/19 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com: My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with 1. LTS 2. with a very reduce number of packages 3. with proprietary codecs and essentiel software (mp3, flash ) included in. First let me point out that such an effort would not be able to use the primary Fedora trademarks, but it would have access to the secondary Fedora Remix trademarks. Please keep that in mind. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/TrademarkGuidelines#Secondary_Mark http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Secondary_trademark_usage_guidelines If you are serious about spending time on this, you should probably think a little bit about what sort of hosting and build infrastructure you are going to have to put together to make sure you can keep building security and bugfix updates over an LTS timescale. -jef -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
Adel ESSAFI wrote: Hi list I was using fedora and redhat since 2000. To day, I can see that our favorite distro is really very strong. However, I have done some experience (short) with Ubuntu and I have liked to LTS concept (Long Term support). My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with 1. LTS 2. with a very reduce number of packages 3. with proprietary codecs and essentiel software (mp3, flash ) included in. I know that the variety of the open source projects are making it's power. However, I aim to build a distribution with only one software from each catégory. That is, I have to choose between: * KDE and GNOME for the destop * rhythembox , kaffeine, ... as media player * abiword or openoffice as office writer . Technically, I will maintain a repository with a reduced number of packages. If I get positive feed back from this list, I can start working on this project in july This distribution will be very useful for starter!! Best regards Adel -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 Perhaps Fedora is not the correct choice for your environment or needs. Fedora is bleeding edge and Fedora users love to bleed and be on the edge. As a consequence Fedora support is limited especially with regard to updates for any given version. Centos may be a better choice for you if you want to stick with a version and continue to receive security and performance updates. While features found in Centos will almost certainly lag those found in Fedora by about one release they are stable and completely ;=) debugged by the time they hit the Centos repositories. Centos is still free for the asking and it is still RedHat, in fact it is RedHat Enterprise Linux but you cannot call for support, you have to resort to forums just like you do with Fedora but the repositories are updated frequently and security and performance upgrades go on for several years. I can't speak to codecs and mp3 capabilities but perhaps you should give it a try and see if it is a fit for your needs. -- John Cornelius (760)560-3449 (Home) (760)521-1531 (Cell) I may not be totally perfect, but parts of me are excellent. Ashleigh Brilliant, 1979 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:35:16 +0100 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list I was using fedora and redhat since 2000. To day, I can see that our favorite distro is really very strong. However, I have done some experience (short) with Ubuntu and I have liked to LTS concept (Long Term support). My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with 1. LTS 2. with a very reduce number of packages #2 is probably a pre-requisite for making it work and if people don't like your choice of packages they can join the project to handle more 3. with proprietary codecs and essentiel software (mp3, flash ) included in. I would keep these separate even if you integrate them at a higher level in your offering. catégory. That is, I have to choose between: * KDE and GNOME for the destop * rhythembox , kaffeine, ... as media player * abiword or openoffice as office writer Nobody will agree - so just pick the bits *you* care about and let everyone who cares enough contribute other bits. This distribution will be very useful for starter!! That will depend on who your target new user is - a lot of folks will want the latest/greatest cool stuff. There is already a distribution with long term maintenance in the same style as Fedora and that is Centos. Centos is boring and that to a lot of its user community is a good thing, but it doesn't appeal to everyone. Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
2009/3/19 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com Hi list I was using fedora and redhat since 2000. To day, I can see that our favorite distro is really very strong. However, I have done some experience (short) with Ubuntu and I have liked to LTS concept (Long Term support). My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with 1. LTS 2. with a very reduce number of packages 3. with proprietary codecs and essentiel software (mp3, flash ) included in. I know that the variety of the open source projects are making it's power. However, I aim to build a distribution with only one software from each catégory. That is, I have to choose between: * KDE and GNOME for the destop * rhythembox , kaffeine, ... as media player * abiword or openoffice as office writer . Technically, I will maintain a repository with a reduced number of packages. If I get positive feed back from this list, I can start working on this project in july This distribution will be very useful for starter!! Best regards Adel Anyone associated with Fedora Legacy Project care to tell Adel why the project died? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 09:35:16AM +0100, Adel ESSAFI wrote: Hi list I was using fedora and redhat since 2000. To day, I can see that our favorite distro is really very strong. However, I have done some experience (short) with Ubuntu and I have liked to LTS concept (Long Term support). My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with 1. LTS 2. with a very reduce number of packages 3. with proprietary codecs and essentiel software (mp3, flash ) included in. This sounds exactly like plain old Red Hat Enterprise Linux or CentOS, with added EL-5 package support from RPM Fusion. In other words, this seems like a somewhat duplicative effort. If I'm not mistaken, you could simply provide people a kickstart file they could use with the existing CentOS and RPM Fusion libraries to do this. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
