Re: k3b Data DVD writing with GNOME?

2009-09-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:57:19 -0700, john wrote:

 I suspect Gnome is doing something stupid.

Which is what I think, too. Perhaps it's really time to take
another look at Brasero instead of working around issues with k3b.

And btw, this is another regression. At least up to F10 it hasn't failed
to verify written files. Not with this hardware (LG) and not with other
hardware (AOpen, Mitsumi) either. It only suffered from the various issues
related to verifying written images (sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't,
sometimes it couldn't find any tracks, sometimes the checksum didn't
match, but matched when verifying it myself). I've never had any problems
with the tray opening/closing automatically.

That the just written DVD gets mounted automatically never used to be 
a problem either. Disc read access is not exclusive. Previously one could
browse the disc with Nautilus while k3b was verifying the files. Unmounting
the disc doesn't change a thing, and k3b still waits endlessly for something
at 0% of the verification step.

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Re: k3b Data DVD writing with GNOME?

2009-09-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:48:30 -0500, Aaron wrote:

 Although you get an Blank CD-R Disk icon on the screen , when I tried it
 the blank disk is not mounted.

Blank discs cannot be mounted. The icon is created as a matter of
convenience. As an indicator, too show that a blank disc is inserted
and that you can start further actions with it.

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Re: k3b Data DVD writing with GNOME?

2009-09-25 Thread James Allsopp
I don't think brassero is an option except for making coasters. I tried to
burn an F11 iso about three times and it didn't work. Went back to K3b, joy!
This was on my gentoo laptop, but this shouldn't make any difference.

Jim

2009/9/25 Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com

 On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:48:30 -0500, Aaron wrote:

  Although you get an Blank CD-R Disk icon on the screen , when I tried it
  the blank disk is not mounted.

 Blank discs cannot be mounted. The icon is created as a matter of
 convenience. As an indicator, too show that a blank disc is inserted
 and that you can start further actions with it.

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Re: k3b Data DVD writing with GNOME?

2009-09-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 25 September 2009 04:57:19 john wendel wrote:
 Maybe I'm dense, but how can a blank disk be mounted, since mounting 
 requires a filesystem?
 
Didn't he say that Nautilus mounted it *after* the burn?

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Re: k3b Data DVD writing with GNOME?

2009-09-25 Thread john wendel

On 09/25/2009 04:59 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:

On Friday 25 September 2009 04:57:19 john wendel wrote:

Maybe I'm dense, but how can a blank disk be mounted, since mounting
requires a filesystem?


Didn't he say that Nautilus mounted it *after* the burn?

Anne



Sorry! You're correct, I think I'll shut up now. stupid-grin

John



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k3b Data DVD writing with GNOME?

2009-09-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
Does plain Data DVD file writing+verifying with k3b and GNOME still work
on Fedora 11?

I had Verify written data checked:

[...]
Writing successfully completed.

It then ejected the disc and closed the tray again immediately.
The infamous and premature No medium found dialog popped up.
I didn't touch it, because it would close after a few seconds
when it would recognise the disc it just had reloaded.

In the background, a Nautilus opened for the recognised disc.
A disc icon appeared, too.
k3b, however, did not proceed to verifying any files. It waited here:

---
Verifying written Data
---
Verifying track 0
0%


After 5 minutes waiting without any disc reader activity,
I cancelled it.
Does this work flawlessly with KDE.
Is it a conflict with the default GNOME desktop?

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Re: k3b Data DVD writing with GNOME?

2009-09-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 24 September 2009 10:27:40 Michael Schwendt wrote:
 Does plain Data DVD file writing+verifying with k3b and GNOME still work
 on Fedora 11?
 
 I had Verify written data checked:
 
 [...]
 Writing successfully completed.
 
 It then ejected the disc and closed the tray again immediately.
 The infamous and premature No medium found dialog popped up.
 I didn't touch it, because it would close after a few seconds
 when it would recognise the disc it just had reloaded.
 
 In the background, a Nautilus opened for the recognised disc.
 A disc icon appeared, too.
 k3b, however, did not proceed to verifying any files. It waited here:
 
 ---
 Verifying written Data
 ---
 Verifying track 0
 0%
 
 
 After 5 minutes waiting without any disc reader activity,
 I cancelled it.
 Does this work flawlessly with KDE.
 Is it a conflict with the default GNOME desktop?
 
K3B works flawlessly for me on some hardware, but not on others.  It seems to 
have problems with some DVD writers, being unable to re-close the door in time 
for the verify to continue.  The workaround, if your writer is one of those, 
is to change the setting that tells it to eject the disk on completion.  
You'll have to manually eject at the end, but that's a small price to pay.  
Meanwhile, for the one you've already burned you will have to resort to 
running md5sum (or other hash)  yourself.

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Re: k3b Data DVD writing with GNOME?

2009-09-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 24 September 2009 10:27:40 Michael Schwendt wrote:
 Does plain Data DVD file writing+verifying with k3b and GNOME still work
 on Fedora 11?
 
 I had Verify written data checked:
 
 [...]
 Writing successfully completed.
 
 It then ejected the disc and closed the tray again immediately.
 The infamous and premature No medium found dialog popped up.
 I didn't touch it, because it would close after a few seconds
 when it would recognise the disc it just had reloaded.
 
 In the background, a Nautilus opened for the recognised disc.
 A disc icon appeared, too.
 k3b, however, did not proceed to verifying any files. It waited here:
 
 ---
 Verifying written Data
 ---
 Verifying track 0
 0%
 
 
 After 5 minutes waiting without any disc reader activity,
 I cancelled it.
 Does this work flawlessly with KDE.
 Is it a conflict with the default GNOME desktop?
 
The other thing I should have mentioned is that if Nautilus mounted the drive, 
that would interfere.  You need to deny the mount.

Anne
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Re: k3b Data DVD writing with GNOME?

2009-09-24 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 12:47 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: 
 On Thursday 24 September 2009 10:27:40 Michael Schwendt wrote:
  Does plain Data DVD file writing+verifying with k3b and GNOME still work
  on Fedora 11?
  
  I had Verify written data checked:
  
  [...]
  Writing successfully completed.
  
  It then ejected the disc and closed the tray again immediately.
  The infamous and premature No medium found dialog popped up.
  I didn't touch it, because it would close after a few seconds
  when it would recognise the disc it just had reloaded.
  
  In the background, a Nautilus opened for the recognised disc.
  A disc icon appeared, too.
  k3b, however, did not proceed to verifying any files. It waited here:
  
  ---
  Verifying written Data
  ---
  Verifying track 0
  0%
  
  
  After 5 minutes waiting without any disc reader activity,
  I cancelled it.
  Does this work flawlessly with KDE.
  Is it a conflict with the default GNOME desktop?
  
 The other thing I should have mentioned is that if Nautilus mounted the 
 drive, 
 that would interfere.  You need to deny the mount.
 
 Anne
k3b has always worked for me in Gnome but I have yet to use it in F11
Although you get an Blank CD-R Disk icon on the screen , when I tried it
the blank disk is not mounted. It is the CD/DVD creator that is
producing the icon.But I agree that unmounting it would seem like a good
idea but it is unclear how you would do it. Clicking on unmout volume in
the action list you get does nothing and using unmount seems hard since
there is no mount point listed when you run the mount command. 
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Re: k3b Data DVD writing with GNOME?

2009-09-24 Thread john wendel

On 09/24/2009 06:48 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:

On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 12:47 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:

On Thursday 24 September 2009 10:27:40 Michael Schwendt wrote:

Does plain Data DVD file writing+verifying with k3b and GNOME still work
on Fedora 11?

I had Verify written data checked:

[...]
Writing successfully completed.

It then ejected the disc and closed the tray again immediately.
The infamous and premature No medium found dialog popped up.
I didn't touch it, because it would close after a few seconds
when it would recognise the disc it just had reloaded.

In the background, a Nautilus opened for the recognised disc.
A disc icon appeared, too.
k3b, however, did not proceed to verifying any files. It waited here:

---
Verifying written Data
---
Verifying track 0
0%


After 5 minutes waiting without any disc reader activity,
I cancelled it.
Does this work flawlessly with KDE.
Is it a conflict with the default GNOME desktop?


The other thing I should have mentioned is that if Nautilus mounted the drive,
that would interfere.  You need to deny the mount.

Anne

k3b has always worked for me in Gnome but I have yet to use it in F11
Although you get an Blank CD-R Disk icon on the screen , when I tried it
the blank disk is not mounted. It is the CD/DVD creator that is
producing the icon.But I agree that unmounting it would seem like a good
idea but it is unclear how you would do it. Clicking on unmout volume in
the action list you get does nothing and using unmount seems hard since
there is no mount point listed when you run the mount command.



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Maybe I'm dense, but how can a blank disk be mounted, since mounting 
requires a filesystem?  BTW, I run k3b under F11 with LXDE and it works 
fine. I suspect Gnome is doing something stupid.


John

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