Re: re the new KDE 4.2 (or so)
Around 04:49pm on Monday, April 06, 2009 (UK time), Elgato Salvahey scrawled: > It is a law of cosmology, and the second law of thermodynamics, that > the entropy of the universe must always increase. Since this implies > that ALL things MUST increase in complexity, This is wrong. Entropy in the context of the seconf law of thermodynamics refers to increacing unavailability of a systems energy, i.e. increacing disorder. You are confusing it with information theory I think, which has nothing do do with thermodynamics. Steve -- (o< www.stevesearle.com //\ Powered by Fedora V_/_No MS products were used in the creation of this message 18:57:18 up 6:19, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 pgpAX7RbAyYED.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
re the new KDE 4.2 (or so)
It is a law of cosmology, and the second law of thermodynamics, that the entropy of the universe must always increase. Since this implies that ALL things MUST increase in complexity, what you say is inevitable. Take for instance the telephone. It once was a simple device that did a good job for what it was intended. Contrast the modern cell-phone. It plays music, surfs the net and, as an afterthought, might even allow you to make a telephone call. QED DN powered by LINUX -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the new KDE 4.2 (or so)
2009/4/4 Armin : > On Sunday 05 April 2009 09:19:34 Anne Wilson wrote: >> On Sunday 05 April 2009 12:47:20 Stanisław T. Findeisen wrote: >> > I just wanted to share my opinion about the new KDE in Fedora 10 (KDE >> > 4.2 or so). >> > >> > KDE has been my favourite desktop environment for *years* (8-10 or so). >> > The old one in Fedora 8 (KDE 3.5 or so) was great. >> > >> > Unfortunately, the new one (4.2 or so) is *so heavy*, *so buggy* and so >> > *unusable at all* that I am trying to find an alternative. It looks as >> > if someone thought that simple, fast and stable things are bad. :-/ >> > >> > What do you think about it? >> >> I think that most of us are fed up with this kind of trolling. > > +1 for "fed up with this kind of trolling" -1 Redundant -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the new KDE 4.2 (or so)
On Sunday 05 April 2009 09:19:34 Anne Wilson wrote: > On Sunday 05 April 2009 12:47:20 Stanisław T. Findeisen wrote: > > I just wanted to share my opinion about the new KDE in Fedora 10 (KDE > > 4.2 or so). > > > > KDE has been my favourite desktop environment for *years* (8-10 or so). > > The old one in Fedora 8 (KDE 3.5 or so) was great. > > > > Unfortunately, the new one (4.2 or so) is *so heavy*, *so buggy* and so > > *unusable at all* that I am trying to find an alternative. It looks as > > if someone thought that simple, fast and stable things are bad. :-/ > > > > What do you think about it? > > I think that most of us are fed up with this kind of trolling. +1 for "fed up with this kind of trolling" -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the new KDE 4.2 (or so)
On 04/05/2009 12:01 PM, David wrote: >> I think you shgould read the archives of this list over the last 6 >> months or so. > > > Great suggestion! 8-) > > Please read more than just the fedora archives - (kubuntu, Linus' own opinion, what the kde team are doing as well, and more). This topic is far wider than fedora and it will keep you busy for a long time catching up on eveything (;-) and understanding not only where things are (and were) but are going. Then decide for yourself if you want to switch today or not, or plan to switch back to kde at some point in the future. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the new KDE 4.2 (or so)
On 4/5/2009 10:49 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 13:47 +0200, "Stanisław T. Findeisen" wrote: >> I just wanted to share my opinion about the new KDE in Fedora 10 (KDE >> 4.2 or so). >> KDE has been my favourite desktop environment for *years* (8-10 or so). >> The old one in Fedora 8 (KDE 3.5 or so) was great. >> Unfortunately, the new one (4.2 or so) is *so heavy*, *so buggy* and so >> *unusable at all* that I am trying to find an alternative. It looks as >> if someone thought that simple, fast and stable things are bad. :-/ >> What do you think about it? > I think you shgould read the archives of this list over the last 6 > months or so. Great suggestion! 8-) -- David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the new KDE 4.2 (or so)
On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 13:47 +0200, "Stanisław T. Findeisen" wrote: > I just wanted to share my opinion about the new KDE in Fedora 10 (KDE > 4.2 or so). > > KDE has been my favourite desktop environment for *years* (8-10 or so). > The old one in Fedora 8 (KDE 3.5 or so) was great. > > Unfortunately, the new one (4.2 or so) is *so heavy*, *so buggy* and so > *unusable at all* that I am trying to find an alternative. It looks as > if someone thought that simple, fast and stable things are bad. :-/ > > What do you think about it? I think you shgould read the archives of this list over the last 6 months or so. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the new KDE 4.2 (or so)
2009/4/5 "Stanisław T. Findeisen" : > Unfortunately, the new one (4.2 or so) is *so heavy*, *so buggy* and so > *unusable at all* that I am trying to find an alternative. It looks as if > someone thought that simple, fast and stable things are bad. :-/ > > What do you think about it? I think it is very usable. I have used the KDE 4 series daily for about a year, and in my opinion, it was very good already last fall when they released KDE 4.1. KDE 4.0 has some clear shortcomings, but even it was certainly better than "unusable at all". I used to use it daily, too, and it wasn't nearly as hard as some people often seem to claim. I actually think that KDE 4.0 was already much nicer than the KDE 3 series. (I used to use Gnome before the KDE 4.0 release). Now that there have been many very significant improvements in KDE since 4.0, I have hard time understanding why some people are so keenly calling it completely unusable. -- Joonas Sarajärvi mue...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the new KDE 4.2 (or so)
On Sunday 05 April 2009 12:47:20 Stanisław T. Findeisen wrote: > I just wanted to share my opinion about the new KDE in Fedora 10 (KDE > 4.2 or so). > > KDE has been my favourite desktop environment for *years* (8-10 or so). > The old one in Fedora 8 (KDE 3.5 or so) was great. > > Unfortunately, the new one (4.2 or so) is *so heavy*, *so buggy* and so > *unusable at all* that I am trying to find an alternative. It looks as > if someone thought that simple, fast and stable things are bad. :-/ > > What do you think about it? > I think that most of us are fed up with this kind of trolling. If you have problems with KDE4, please ask specific questions and we will try to help you. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
the new KDE 4.2 (or so)
I just wanted to share my opinion about the new KDE in Fedora 10 (KDE 4.2 or so). KDE has been my favourite desktop environment for *years* (8-10 or so). The old one in Fedora 8 (KDE 3.5 or so) was great. Unfortunately, the new one (4.2 or so) is *so heavy*, *so buggy* and so *unusable at all* that I am trying to find an alternative. It looks as if someone thought that simple, fast and stable things are bad. :-/ What do you think about it? STF === http://eisenbits.homelinux.net/~stf/ OpenPGP: 9D25 3D89 75F1 DF1D F434 25D7 E87F A1B9 B80F 8062 === signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
