Re: No welcome email with password yet :(

2009-10-13 Thread Galder Zamarreno

On 10/12/2009 09:06 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, Galder Zamarreno wrote:


Hi,

Earlier today I signed up username 'galder' with address 'gal...@jboss.org'
but I still haven't received the welcome email address with my password.

Could you please look into it?



Just following up on the list, Galder and I talked in #fedora-admin today.
There's a routing issue between our smtp server and the jboss.org server
(since both are internal to RH it's a special case)  Galder now has a
working account and I think the routing issue has also been resolved, just
waiting for some verification.


Indeed, it's solved now :). Thanks to all!



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captcha issue

2009-10-13 Thread Ziyad Saeed
Hello,I have been trying to join the fedora project over at the FAS site and
the captcha fails everytime. I have tried 20 times already and it always
fails

Can you guys create a temp one for me
username: myschizobuddy
real name: Ziyad Saeed
email: myschizobu...@gmail.com
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Re: captcha issue

2009-10-13 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Ziyad Saeed wrote:

 Hello,I have been trying to join the fedora project over at the FAS site and 
 the captcha fails everytime. I have tried 20
 times already and it always fails

 Can you guys create a temp one for me
 username: myschizobuddy
 real name: Ziyad Saeed
 email: myschizobu...@gmail.com


If you have a moment can you take a screen shot of the captcha and send it
our way?

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Re: Gremlins! - Join Fedora captcha is Unreadable

2009-10-13 Thread Mike McGrath
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Paul W. Frields  wrote:

  And welcome, Alex!  It's been nice meeting and talking to you in
  person at UTOSC.
 
  Now, about that captcha...  :-)


 Is there really a known issue with those captcha ?
 Another user claimed to have difficulties to sign in fedora account:
 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-electronic-lab-list/2009-October/msg00026.html


At present there are no known problems, can you get them to send a screen
shot of the capcha our way?

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Re: Gremlins! - Join Fedora captcha is Unreadable

2009-10-13 Thread Chitlesh GOORAH
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Mike McGrath  wrote:
 At present there are no known problems, can you get them to send a screen
 shot of the capcha our way?

You have just asked him in your previous email.

Chitlesh

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Re: Gremlins! - Join Fedora captcha is Unreadable

2009-10-13 Thread Ian Weller
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 09:32:42AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
 At present there are no known problems, can you get them to send a screen
 shot of the capcha our way?
 
Here's seven fairly unreadable ones, out of a random sample of about
40-50 refreshes.

http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/captcha/

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Re: Gremlins! - Join Fedora captcha is Unreadable

2009-10-13 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Ian Weller wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 09:32:42AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
  At present there are no known problems, can you get them to send a screen
  shot of the capcha our way?
 
 Here's seven fairly unreadable ones, out of a random sample of about
 40-50 refreshes.

 http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/captcha/


Pooh, this is an opinion one, I can read each of those without issue.
We'll have to see what options we have.

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Re: Gremlins! - Join Fedora captcha is Unreadable

2009-10-13 Thread Clint Savage
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Ian Weller wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 09:32:42AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
  At present there are no known problems, can you get them to send a screen
  shot of the capcha our way?
 
 Here's seven fairly unreadable ones, out of a random sample of about
 40-50 refreshes.

 http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/captcha/


 Pooh, this is an opinion one, I can read each of those without issue.
 We'll have to see what options we have.

        -Mike

I don't think it's an opinion one as much as what a particular eye can
see.  In my case, I can read 'most' of them with little to no effort,
but there were at least 3 that I had to squint or move closer to read.
 I've had perfect vision all of my life.  What I don't understand is
the value of having colored boxes that make it extremely difficult for
the eyes to focus on the letters.

BTW, I understand what a captcha is and its intended purpose, but I
would argue that this is only one step of many for preventing computer
bots to invade the fedora project.  Mitigation is the goal here, I
don't think it's possible to eliminate all bots, but it is possible to
eliminate a few potential contributors because of something simple
like this getting in the way.

Cheers,

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Re: Gremlins! - Join Fedora captcha is Unreadable

2009-10-13 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Clint Savage wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
  On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Ian Weller wrote:
 
  On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 09:32:42AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
   At present there are no known problems, can you get them to send a screen
   shot of the capcha our way?
  
  Here's seven fairly unreadable ones, out of a random sample of about
  40-50 refreshes.
 
  http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/captcha/
 
 
  Pooh, this is an opinion one, I can read each of those without issue.
  We'll have to see what options we have.
 
         -Mike

 I don't think it's an opinion one as much as what a particular eye can
 see.  In my case, I can read 'most' of them with little to no effort,
 but there were at least 3 that I had to squint or move closer to read.
  I've had perfect vision all of my life.  What I don't understand is
 the value of having colored boxes that make it extremely difficult for
 the eyes to focus on the letters.

 BTW, I understand what a captcha is and its intended purpose, but I
 would argue that this is only one step of many for preventing computer
 bots to invade the fedora project.  Mitigation is the goal here, I
 don't think it's possible to eliminate all bots, but it is possible to
 eliminate a few potential contributors because of something simple
 like this getting in the way.


it's a new technology to us, I'd rather try to get it fixed before
abandoning it.

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Re: Gremlins! - Join Fedora captcha is Unreadable

2009-10-13 Thread Clint Savage
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Clint Savage wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
  On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Ian Weller wrote:
 
  On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 09:32:42AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
   At present there are no known problems, can you get them to send a 
   screen
   shot of the capcha our way?
  
  Here's seven fairly unreadable ones, out of a random sample of about
  40-50 refreshes.
 
  http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/captcha/
 
 
  Pooh, this is an opinion one, I can read each of those without issue.
  We'll have to see what options we have.
 
         -Mike

 I don't think it's an opinion one as much as what a particular eye can
 see.  In my case, I can read 'most' of them with little to no effort,
 but there were at least 3 that I had to squint or move closer to read.
  I've had perfect vision all of my life.  What I don't understand is
 the value of having colored boxes that make it extremely difficult for
 the eyes to focus on the letters.

 BTW, I understand what a captcha is and its intended purpose, but I
 would argue that this is only one step of many for preventing computer
 bots to invade the fedora project.  Mitigation is the goal here, I
 don't think it's possible to eliminate all bots, but it is possible to
 eliminate a few potential contributors because of something simple
 like this getting in the way.


 it's a new technology to us, I'd rather try to get it fixed before
 abandoning it.

        -Mike

Oh, I wasn't suggesting abandoning it, I think it's great.  I just
wonder if we could tone it down some.  Sorry if I implied such a
thing, I am excited to see that we're using CAPTCHA.

Clint

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Re: Gremlins! - Join Fedora captcha is Unreadable

2009-10-13 Thread Clint Savage
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Clint Savage wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
  On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Clint Savage wrote:
 
  On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
   On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Ian Weller wrote:
  
   On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 09:32:42AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
At present there are no known problems, can you get them to send a 
screen
shot of the capcha our way?
   
   Here's seven fairly unreadable ones, out of a random sample of about
   40-50 refreshes.
  
   http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/captcha/
  
  
   Pooh, this is an opinion one, I can read each of those without issue.
   We'll have to see what options we have.
  
          -Mike
 
  I don't think it's an opinion one as much as what a particular eye can
  see.  In my case, I can read 'most' of them with little to no effort,
  but there were at least 3 that I had to squint or move closer to read.
   I've had perfect vision all of my life.  What I don't understand is
  the value of having colored boxes that make it extremely difficult for
  the eyes to focus on the letters.
 
  BTW, I understand what a captcha is and its intended purpose, but I
  would argue that this is only one step of many for preventing computer
  bots to invade the fedora project.  Mitigation is the goal here, I
  don't think it's possible to eliminate all bots, but it is possible to
  eliminate a few potential contributors because of something simple
  like this getting in the way.
 
 
  it's a new technology to us, I'd rather try to get it fixed before
  abandoning it.
 
         -Mike

 Oh, I wasn't suggesting abandoning it, I think it's great.  I just
 wonder if we could tone it down some.  Sorry if I implied such a
 thing, I am excited to see that we're using CAPTCHA.


 I'm not actually sure, here's the app we're using:

 http://code.google.com/p/tgcaptcha/

 It's a pretty easy change to start using Vanasco-Dowty but it gets tricky.
 neither one is particularly easy to read (which I guess is the point)

        -Mike

Actually the Vanasco-Dowty is *much* easier to read (from what I see
on their google code page).  I can read the McDermott CAPTCHA, but it
takes my eyes more effort and I had to squint a little.  This is just
my experience, but I think the Vanasco-Dowty would be a good
compromise.

Clint

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Re: HTML/CSS status for web redesign

2009-10-13 Thread Sijis Aviles
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Jose Mathew Manimala
josemanim...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yeah I am here to help in any small way i can... I can correct links or help
 create content for the spins pages.


 Reagrds


 Jose M Manimala


 Hiemanshu Sharma wrote:

 Hello Paul,

 Here is a list of pending Items we had on mind. Thanks to sijis for making
 it.

 Design
 ==
 - complete tabs in content section (use jquery?)
 - complete right side column
  + updating fonts
 - complete header
  + create rounded corners
 - clean up and complete images
  + images are not correct color
  + check transparency
  + create missing images for each spin, header, etc
 - update css to include correct font

 Coding
 ===
 - genshi templating
  + master template must change depending on spin page/section you are
 on (see for ideas:
 http://genshi.edgewall.org/wiki/Documentation/0.5.x/xml-templates.html)
  + change template so it works as anticipated (see above)

 Content
 ===
 - update links to correct locations
 - create content for spins
 - create directory structure
  + structure: spins.fpo/data/content/$spin-name/
 - content changed to make translatable eg: ${_('Text')}

 Testing
 ===
 - verify site works with other OSes / browsers

 I am back to work. So I am getting started again on it. Everything
 should be on schedule.
 If anything reading the list has some time to spare please do help us
 out. We could really like a few extra heads.

 Regards,

 Hiemanshu Sharma.



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Here's an update

Completed

Design
==
- complete tabs in content section (use jquery?) -- done

Coding -- all done
===
- genshi templating
 + master template must change depending on spin page/section you are
on (see for ideas:
http://genshi.edgewall.org/wiki/Documentation/0.5.x/xml-templates.html)
 + change template so it works as anticipated (see above)

Content
===
- create directory structure -- done
 + structure: spins.fpo/data/content/$spin-name/


I'll be working on updating the fonts and replacing the header text
with images next.


Left to do

Design
==
- complete right side column
 + updating fonts

- complete header
 + create rounded corners
 + replace text (support, about, directory) with images

- clean up and complete images
 + images are not correct color
 + check transparency
 + create missing images for each spin, header, etc

- update css to include correct font

Content
===
- update links to correct locations

- create content for spins

- content changed to make translatable eg: ${_('Text')}

Testing
===
- verify site works with other OSes / browsers


If anyone wants to help, please let us know. You can find us in
#fedora-websites.

Thanks,

Sijis

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Re: Gremlins! - Join Fedora captcha is Unreadable

2009-10-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/13/2009 10:31 PM, Clint Savage wrote:

 Actually the Vanasco-Dowty is *much* easier to read (from what I see
 on their google code page).  I can read the McDermott CAPTCHA, but it
 takes my eyes more effort and I had to squint a little.  This is just
 my experience, but I think the Vanasco-Dowty would be a good
 compromise.

Yep and doesn't cause problems with color blind folks either.

Rahul

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