Re: Captcha problems

[Mike McGrath]

On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Arthur Scotcher wrote:

>
> I keep getting captcha: incorrect value. I can't have keyed the letters 
> wrongly 20 times!
>
>
>

When you clicked the back button, did you get a different captcha every
time or the same one?

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New sponsor!!

[Mike McGrath]

We've got a new sponsor, bodhost.com!

I've attached their logo, they are awesome for providing us a presence in
the UK and canada.

Also can we add them to the new site specific sponsors that we've been
working on?   Should I send requests like this to webmas...@fp.o or should
I be using the new websites ticketing system?

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Re: Fedora 12 live cd sha sum

[Mike McGrath]

Forwarding to the web team.

-Mike

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, Cameron Cross wrote:

> i downloaded the torrent for fedora 12 live cd and the sha sum thing is 
> labeled as sha1 when it is actually sha256. That
> could confuse people
>
> eg.
>
>
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> 5ad27455df004ee23fbc5a05dfa039a14e59956dccf4e767d493601e0bfa4001  
> Fedora-12-i686-Live.iso
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
>
>
> sha256sum ./Fedora-12-i686-Live.iso
> 5ad27455df004ee23fbc5a05dfa039a14e59956dccf4e767d493601e0bfa4001 
> /home/cameron/Download/Fedora-12-i686-Live/Fedora-12-i686-Live.iso
>
> sha1sum ./Fedora-12-i686-Live.iso
> daf4b3ea2322dfee9a473099557ac9ed7c6d3159  
> /home/cameron/Download/Fedora-12-i686-Live/Fedora-12-i686-Live.iso
>
>
>
>
>
> From Cameron Cross
>
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Re: Help with password

[Mike McGrath]

Do you have any way to access the old account or can even tell me what it
was?  If not let me know and there are a couple of alternatives we can do.

-Mike

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Gregory Sieranski wrote:

> I forgot my password for my Fedora account username gsieranski. The email 
> that I believe I registered the account name
> with is no longer in use. What do I need to provide in order to be able to 
> reset my password and have my email address
> changed?
>
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Re: PEER 1 Link (fwd)

[Mike McGrath]

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Todd Zullinger wrote:

> Mike McGrath wrote:
> > Could someone update the website with their new logo below?
>
> Is it alright to just update this on the master branch, which will go
> live with the F-12 release next Tuesday?  Or is it important enough to
> make the change on the f12-beta branch as well so that it goes live
> now?
>
> (I've got the change locally, just wondering before I push.)
>

I'd prefer to push it sooner then later mostly because Peer 1 is an
excellent sponsor to us.

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PEER 1 Link (fwd)

[Mike McGrath]

Could someone update the website with their new logo below?

-Mike

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:44:57
From: Robert Flynn 
To: mmcgr...@redhat.com, ad...@fedoraproject.org
Subject: PEER 1 Link


Hello,

 

I would like to take a quick moment to introduce myself as your Account Manager 
here at ServerBeach.

 

If you have any questions regarding your account please feel free to call me 
directly.

 

I attempted to give you a call to introduce myself today but the number on file 
is not accepting calls and does not ring
to a voicemail.  Do you have any alternative number where I can give you a call 
in the future?

 

 

Regarding the PEER 1 link located here;

 

http://fedoraproject.org/sponsors

 

We have a new logo and ask if you would kindly change the current badge on your 
site to the “Hosting By PEER 1” badge
located here:

 

http://www.peer1.com/resources/badges.php

 

 

 

Thanks again and I look forward to speaking with you.

 

 

Regards,

Robert Flynn
Account Manager

1 (800) 741-9939 Option 2
Direct 1 (210) 798-4404

Fax 1 (210) 579-1527
rfl...@serverbeach.com

 

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Re: [Fedora Infrastructure] #1774: Fedora Wiki's stylesheet is screwey on small screen high DPI devices

[Mike McGrath]

So I personally have no idea how to fix this with style sheets but I'm
pretty sure that's how it gets fixed.  Ian had mentioned something in
fedora-admin but I'm not sure if any among us has any experience with
making mobile style sheets.

Anyone out there?

-   Mike

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Fedora Infrastructure wrote:

> #1774: Fedora Wiki's stylesheet is screwey on small screen high DPI devices
> -+--
>  Reporter:  ynemoy   |   Owner:  webmaster
>  Type:  bug  |  Status:  new
>  Priority:  major|   Milestone:
> Component:  General  | Version:
>  Severity:  Normal   |Keywords:
> -+--
>  = phenomenon =
>
>  Multiple issues here: Tables go beyond the page but the page isn't told
>  about being wider than the screen, so horizontal scrolling is not
>  possible. Embedded pictures and headers aren't formatted properly so text
>  can flow around it, even in extreme situations. The sidebar takes up too
>  much space at high DPIs leaving only half the page for the body.
>
>  In the above order:
>  http://ynemoy.fedorapeople.org/wikixofail/IMAG0016.jpg
>  http://ynemoy.fedorapeople.org/wikixofail/IMAG0018.jpg
>
>  http://ynemoy.fedorapeople.org/wikixofail/IMAG0013.jpg
>
>  http://ynemoy.fedorapeople.org/wikixofail/IMAG0014.jpg
>  http://ynemoy.fedorapeople.org/wikixofail/IMAG0015.jpg
>
>  Resizing the text and page zoom fixes some problems, but my opinion is
>  that this is non obvious to many people.
>
>  http://ynemoy.fedorapeople.org/wikixofail/IMAG0017.jpg
>
>  = reason =
>
>  I'm not much of a CSS guy, but i have a few ideas. First of all, the
>  sidebar is strictly set to a hard size in relation to the rest of the
>  page. Second of all, horizontal scrolling is (and rightly so) disabled at
>  all costs. Third of all, something is not set properly when formatting
>  embedded inline pictures, so that the sidebar can wrap around it, or so
>  that it's left justified instead of right justified so it runs off the
>  page rather than running into the sidebar.
>
>  = recommendation =
>
>  Wikipedia has a pretty decent mobile interface that works very nicely on
>  the Android devices, and presumably on others as well. It avoids using a
>  sidebar and TOC by replacing it with expandable fields. I think that at
>  least having that stylesheet available would be a start. The tricky part
>  is detecting the actual dimensions *and* DPI of a screen and switching to
>  the appropriate stylesheet. In this particular example, the screenshots
>  were taken on an XO using mostly stock settings and Firefox.
>
>  Another and more costly and time consuming solution is to redesign the
>  page more comprehensively so that it is a general purpose page for both
>  mobile, small screen, and normal devices.
>
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Re: Hello I want create a account in fedoraproject.org but i can't

[Mike McGrath]

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, ces choi wrote:

> Hello.
> I have problems with the register form because i put my information in that, 
> but my email in yahoo.com.mx  don't receive
> the email with the activator url.
>  

Check your bulk mail, also you can attempt to reset your password, you'll
get a new URL.

-Mike

> Could you help me with this?
>  
> This is my user name: cesarcalzada
>  
> Thank you for your answer.
>  
> Have a nice day.
>
> _
>
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Re: Gremlins! - "Join Fedora" captcha is Unreadable

[Mike McGrath]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Clint Savage wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Mike McGrath  wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Clint Savage wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Mike McGrath  wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Ian Weller wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 09:32:42AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
> >> >> > At present there are no known problems, can you get them to send a 
> >> >> > screen
> >> >> > shot of the capcha our way?
> >> >> >
> >> >> Here's seven fairly unreadable ones, out of a random sample of about
> >> >> 40-50 refreshes.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/captcha/
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Pooh, this is an opinion one, I can read each of those without issue.
> >> > We'll have to see what options we have.
> >> >
> >> >        -Mike
> >>
> >> I don't think it's an opinion one as much as what a particular eye can
> >> see.  In my case, I can read 'most' of them with little to no effort,
> >> but there were at least 3 that I had to squint or move closer to read.
> >>  I've had perfect vision all of my life.  What I don't understand is
> >> the value of having colored boxes that make it extremely difficult for
> >> the eyes to focus on the letters.
> >>
> >> BTW, I understand what a captcha is and its intended purpose, but I
> >> would argue that this is only one step of many for preventing computer
> >> bots to invade the fedora project.  Mitigation is the goal here, I
> >> don't think it's possible to eliminate all bots, but it is possible to
> >> eliminate a few potential contributors because of something simple
> >> like this getting in the way.
> >>
> >
> > it's a new technology to us, I'd rather try to get it fixed before
> > abandoning it.
> >
> >        -Mike
>
> Oh, I wasn't suggesting abandoning it, I think it's great.  I just
> wonder if we could tone it down some.  Sorry if I implied such a
> thing, I am excited to see that we're using CAPTCHA.
>

I'm not actually sure, here's the app we're using:

http://code.google.com/p/tgcaptcha/

It's a pretty easy change to start using Vanasco-Dowty but it gets tricky.
neither one is particularly easy to read (which I guess is the point)

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Re: captcha issue

[Mike McGrath]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Ziyad Saeed wrote:

> Hello,I have been trying to join the fedora project over at the FAS site and 
> the captcha fails everytime. I have tried 20
> times already and it always fails
>
> Can you guys create a temp one for me
> username: myschizobuddy
> real name: Ziyad Saeed
> email: myschizobu...@gmail.com
>


You should be getting an email shortly.

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Re: Gremlins! - "Join Fedora" captcha is Unreadable

[Mike McGrath]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Clint Savage wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Mike McGrath  wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Ian Weller wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 09:32:42AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
> >> > At present there are no known problems, can you get them to send a screen
> >> > shot of the capcha our way?
> >> >
> >> Here's seven fairly unreadable ones, out of a random sample of about
> >> 40-50 refreshes.
> >>
> >> http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/captcha/
> >>
> >
> > Pooh, this is an opinion one, I can read each of those without issue.
> > We'll have to see what options we have.
> >
> >        -Mike
>
> I don't think it's an opinion one as much as what a particular eye can
> see.  In my case, I can read 'most' of them with little to no effort,
> but there were at least 3 that I had to squint or move closer to read.
>  I've had perfect vision all of my life.  What I don't understand is
> the value of having colored boxes that make it extremely difficult for
> the eyes to focus on the letters.
>
> BTW, I understand what a captcha is and its intended purpose, but I
> would argue that this is only one step of many for preventing computer
> bots to invade the fedora project.  Mitigation is the goal here, I
> don't think it's possible to eliminate all bots, but it is possible to
> eliminate a few potential contributors because of something simple
> like this getting in the way.
>

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Re: Gremlins! - "Join Fedora" captcha is Unreadable

[Mike McGrath]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Ian Weller wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 09:32:42AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
> > At present there are no known problems, can you get them to send a screen
> > shot of the capcha our way?
> >
> Here's seven fairly unreadable ones, out of a random sample of about
> 40-50 refreshes.
>
> http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/captcha/
>

Pooh, this is an opinion one, I can read each of those without issue.
We'll have to see what options we have.

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Re: Gremlins! - "Join Fedora" captcha is Unreadable

[Mike McGrath]

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Paul W. Frields  wrote:
>
> > And welcome, Alex!  It's been nice meeting and talking to you in
> > person at UTOSC.
> >
> > Now, about that captcha...  :-)
>
>
> Is there really a known issue with those captcha ?
> Another user claimed to have difficulties to sign in fedora account:
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-electronic-lab-list/2009-October/msg00026.html
>

At present there are no known problems, can you get them to send a screen
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Re: captcha issue

[Mike McGrath]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Ziyad Saeed wrote:

> Hello,I have been trying to join the fedora project over at the FAS site and 
> the captcha fails everytime. I have tried 20
> times already and it always fails
>
> Can you guys create a temp one for me
> username: myschizobuddy
> real name: Ziyad Saeed
> email: myschizobu...@gmail.com
>

If you have a moment can you take a screen shot of the captcha and send it
our way?

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Re: No welcome email with password yet :(

[Mike McGrath]

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, Galder Zamarreno wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Earlier today I signed up username 'galder' with address 'gal...@jboss.org'
> but I still haven't received the welcome email address with my password.
>
> Could you please look into it?
>

Just following up on the list, Galder and I talked in #fedora-admin today.
There's a routing issue between our smtp server and the jboss.org server
(since both are internal to RH it's a special case)  Galder now has a
working account and I think the routing issue has also been resolved, just
waiting for some verification.

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Re: Fedoracommunity.org index page

[Mike McGrath]

On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:

> On 09/09/2009 01:42 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > On 09/08/2009 04:50 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:
> >> On Tue, 8 Sep 2009, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> >>> Why not use:
> >>>
> >>> sitemap.fedoraproject.org or fedoraproject.org/sitemap
> >>> domains.fedoraproject.org or fedoraproject.org/domains
> >>> all.fedoraproject.org or fedoraproject.org/all
> >>> directory.fedoraproject.org or fedoraproject.org/directory
> >>>
> >>
> >> fedoracommunity.org is a way for non-official sites (IE ones that Fedora
> >> Infrastruture doesn't run) to have a domain name and such.  So
> >> de.fedoracommunity.org might exist.  Or even edu.fedoracommunity.org or
> >> something.
> >>
> >> The other fedora community you know about :)
> >
> > ugh what a crappy dilemma.
> >
> > is there any possibility of changing this new domain? eg maybe
> > 'fedorafriends.org' or something like that?
> >
> If we're going to rename we probably want to change admin.fp.o/community
> 's name.
>
> Less coordination with outside people to make it happen, less retraining
> of people who aren't developers, etc.
>

I'm generally inclined to agree except that we've also done a whole
marketing blitz about 'fedora community'

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Re: Fedoracommunity.org index page

[Mike McGrath]

On Tue, 8 Sep 2009, Máirín Duffy wrote:

> On 09/08/2009 03:08 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > > > > We need an index page for the Fedoracommunity.org domain that lists
> > > > > the various community sites available through subdomains, as well as
> > > > > authoritative other sites that are local to our many communities
> > > > > around the world.
>
> > Wow, this is a thorny problem -- I wish the naming collision had
> > occurred to me sooner. :-(
>
> Help me understand the need here - is this simply to serve as a Fedora project
> wide sitemap?
>
> Why not use:
>
> sitemap.fedoraproject.org or fedoraproject.org/sitemap
> domains.fedoraproject.org or fedoraproject.org/domains
> all.fedoraproject.org or fedoraproject.org/all
> directory.fedoraproject.org or fedoraproject.org/directory
>

fedoracommunity.org is a way for non-official sites (IE ones that Fedora
Infrastruture doesn't run) to have a domain name and such.  So
de.fedoracommunity.org might exist.  Or even edu.fedoracommunity.org or
something.

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Re: Fedoracommunity.org index page

[Mike McGrath]

On Tue, 8 Sep 2009, Máirín Duffy wrote:

> On 09/08/2009 07:08 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > Hi Websites team,
> >
> > We need an index page for the Fedoracommunity.org domain that lists
> > the various community sites available through subdomains, as well as
> > authoritative other sites that are local to our many communities
> > around the world.
>
> Is having a site named Fedora Community that isn't Fedora Community
> (admin.fedoraproject.org/community) going to cause confusion?
>

Ohh boy, I hadn't even put 2 and 2 together yet on that one.  Looks like
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Re: Stefan P. is here!

[Mike McGrath]

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, Stefan Pavikevik wrote:

> Hello guys. I have a great web developing experience of 3 years, I have 
> developed many websites, and I am great designer.
> I specify in PHP, HTML, CSS, MySQL. I can do great web projects.
>

Welcome Stefan!  It's good to have other designers around.  Are familiar
with our setup?  If not http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/ShowUs is a
good place to start.  As I understand it there's some major work being
done soon that will need people like you.

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Re: (no subject)

[Mike McGrath]

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, FRANCOIS & HELEN BIZALION wrote:

> How do I change my web address home page, when you type bizalions.com I get 
> the fedora test page.I deleted my landing
> page and my web site is now one page and the address 
> www.bizalions.com/giftpage.html.
>

>From http://www.bizalions.com/:

"You may now add content to the directory /var/www/html/. Note that until
you do so, people visiting your website will see this page, and not your
content. To prevent this page from ever being used, follow the
instructions in the file /etc/httpd/conf.d/welcome.conf."

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Re: Media wiki extension for handling Ogg

[Mike McGrath]

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Nicu Buculei wrote:

> On 08/18/2009 07:15 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:
> >
> > Would you really care about a FC3 screen cast?
>
> Actually a couple of weeks ago I needed for a project the wallpapers
> from old release (going to FC1) and was very useful to find the archives
> with RPMs.
>
> Not exactly FC3, but I searched for stuff in the release notes around
> FC6. If the release notes link to screencasts, it would be ugly to have
> broken links.
>
> Also, deleting, we may break existing links which are outside our
> control, like reviews or blogs.
>

1) those releases are EOLed
2) explain to me, in detail, what the cost of keeping that stuff available
is.

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Re: Media wiki extension for handling Ogg

[Mike McGrath]

On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Nicu Buculei wrote:

> On 08/18/2009 06:06 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:
> > On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> >>
> >> It would be useful to stream Ogg Theora videos directly from the wiki
> >> inorder to demonstrate new features. What are the options available for
> >> this and is any of them being deployed in Fedora infrastructure?
> >
> > I assume you're talking about
> > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OggHandler.  It'd need to get
> > packaged and we'd probably have to come up with some rules about the video
> > sizes and how long we keep them as to not overload our servers.
>
> I agree about size rules but I don't like the idea of deleting: deleting
> part of release notes for old releases would be like deleting our history.
>

Would you really care about a FC3 screen cast?

> Are you concerned about disk space or bandwidth consumption? Disk space
> can be addressed by having rules for upload size and the bandwidth
> consumption should not be big for old releases, with only a few visitors.
>
> Maybe archive old videos in external sources?
>

I just don't like "keep everything forever" that's not a plan, it's a
mistake.  And people make it a lot.  Most people think they want it
because they don't have to live with the consequences.  I do.

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Re: Media wiki extension for handling Ogg

[Mike McGrath]

On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It would be useful to stream Ogg Theora videos directly from the wiki
> inorder to demonstrate new features. What are the options available for
> this and is any of them being deployed in Fedora infrastructure?
>

I assume you're talking about
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OggHandler.  It'd need to get
packaged and we'd probably have to come up with some rules about the video
sizes and how long we keep them as to not overload our servers.

-Mike

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Re: j.fp.o design process strawman (criticism please!)

[Mike McGrath]

On Sat, 11 Jul 2009, Mel Chua wrote:

> As I pore through Websites stuff tonight and think about how to tackle
> join.fp.o, I'm realizing that I have a very dim notion (actually, "dim" is
> generous) of what a good design process to go through for this kind of thing
> would be. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering_design_process seems to...
> not exactly fit, but I will stab in the dark and try to use it, and hope
> better alternatives present themselves.
>
> *Please* criticize this gameplan. It's put up here so that it can be ripped
> apart - I'm stuck on finding a better way to think about this, so I figured
> I'd try something (anything) and then let y'all tell me what my mistakes are.
>
> ---
>
> 1. Identify a need: "j.fp.o doesn't really get people to join fedora."
>

I've always found one of the biggest problems with joining is setting
expectations, fedora is a HUGe place.  I think people get lost and don't
know what we expect from them.  This is especially true of more passive
volunteers that just want to be told what to do.  I've found they don't
know what to do, don't enjoy being told what to do and generally don't
have a good experience after joining.

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Re: /images/favicon.ico

[Mike McGrath]

On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Ricky Zhou wrote:

> On 2009-07-08 11:21:38 AM, Mike McGrath wrote:
> > Can someone create a /images/favicon.ico or figure out what is trying to
> > request it?  We get a lot of 404's there.
> I just looked around and couldn't find any where that this is referenced
> from any of our apps.  Unfortunately, these log entries didn't have
> referers or anything :-/
>
> I'm not sure that it's worth copying the file unless we can find something
> that refers to it (that we can't change).
>

I'm guessing it's the browsers.  I'm just trying to clean up our error
logs a bit and this is one of our top offenders.

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/images/favicon.ico

[Mike McGrath]

Can someone create a /images/favicon.ico or figure out what is trying to
request it?  We get a lot of 404's there.

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new sponsor

[Mike McGrath]

can we get
http://staff.osuosl.org/~gchaix/logos/osl_logo_orange_black_clear_new.svg
added to our sponsors page in png format of right size and all that?  :)

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Re: NetInstall ISO on Get-Fedora page.

[Mike McGrath]

On Fri, 26 Jun 2009, Hiemanshu Sharma wrote:

> Hello,
>
> We had a bug report here :
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446077 asking for a link
> to boot.iso(netinst.iso) so i would like your thoughts on this.
> Do you think that we need to put links to netinst.iso files and also
> what would you like it to be named.
>

I think this is a good idea, I typically do net installs.

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start.fp.o

[Mike McGrath]

start.fedoraproject.org still says "Add a counter to your own site!" but
there's no real counter anymore, just "11" :)

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More agressive caching

[Mike McGrath]

We'll be caching more aggressively tonight for tomorrow's F-11 release.
This will mostly have impact on the wiki.  It basically means you might
have to wait for several minutes before a change you make to the wiki to
actually show up.  This is a temporary measure and will return to normal a
day or two after the launch and load on the servers has gone down.

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Re: The wiki no longer distinguishes visited links with different CSS style

[Mike McGrath]

On Thu, 14 May 2009, Allen Halsey wrote:

> Allen Halsey  writes:
> >
> > I was clicking links in the ToC of the latest FWN:
> >
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue172
> >
> > and found that the visited headings were no longer visually distinguished.
> >
>
>
> I created a GreaseMonkey script to fix it:
>
> http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/49120
>
> Allen
>

This isn't being ignored is it?  Who has commit access to make these
changes?

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Re: [Fwd: Cron /usr/share/clamav/freshclam-sleep]

[Mike McGrath]

On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:

> We're getting these every 3 hours. Could someone take a look at it
> please? Thanks.
>

This was me, I'm working on a clamav module for puppet..  That's quite a
bitch that it is this noisy by default.

-Mike

>  Forwarded Message 
> From: Cron Daemon 
> To: r...@fedoraproject.org, postmas...@fedoraproject.org,
> webmas...@fedoraproject.org, cla...@fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Cron  /usr/share/clamav/freshclam-sleep
> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:00:01 + (UTC)
>
> WARNING: update of clamav database is disabled; please see
>   '/etc/sysconfig/freshclam'
>   for information how to enable the periodic update resp. how to turn
>   off this message.
>
> --
> Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams 
>

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Re: FAS Account

[Mike McGrath]

On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Marcus Moeller wrote:

> Good Evening,
>
> I thought I once registered 'marcus' as FAS account but when I try to
> log in I get an error message 'Password expired'
>
> I also could not remember which eMail address I have associated with
> this account.
>
> Best Regards
> Marcus
>

I responded to this privately.

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Re: x86_64 and get.fpo

[Mike McGrath]

On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Máirín Duffy wrote:

> Hey folks,
>
> A couple of desktop devels brought to my attention that we
> actually make it easier to download ppc than x86_64, the
> latter which is likely a lot more common.
>
> I think we can approach solving this in a few different ways:
>
> 1. Add another button for x86_64, and place it above the PPC
> button.
>
> 2. Take away the PPC button, and replace it with a 'Other
> Architectures: x86_64, ppc, etc.' button.
>
> Any ideas?
>

I have no ideas but I do have data:

i686: 73.8%
x86_64: 25.7%
ppc: 0.5%

http://smolts.org/static/stats/stats.html

So yes, we should make it easier to get x86_64 :)

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Re: Typo in Fedora CLA

[Mike McGrath]

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Tom spot Callaway  
> wrote:
> > Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> >
> >> The issue with the typo is listed on this page:
> >>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLegalIssues
> >>
> >> but it's been there for quite a while. Spot, any word on what we should
> >> do about this?
> >
> > Please just fix it. "atents" is not a word, so we do not have to worry about
> > the legal interpretations of making such a change.
>
> Could we check to see how this got this way... I don't remember it
> being atents before the mediawiki changeover.. but my memory could be
> fuzzy.
>

I took this as an opportunity to do an audit to see exactly when / how it
did get introduce.  It's been like that since June 25 2004 when the old
account system converted from using a straight fedora-icla.txt to the
fedora-icla-template.txt.  This particular defect was introduced when:

(including, but not limited to, related patents and trademarks)

Got changed to:

(including, but not limited to, related copyright, atents and trademarks)


Interestingly, the very first wiki CLA import I could find didn't contain
this typo so there must have been another canonical location it was taken
from:

http://fedoraproject.org/wikiold/Legal/Licenses/CLA?action=recall&rev=6

It may have been that Patrick saw and fixed it in this wiki initial
import.

Also interestingly is that during our FAS2 development, we pulled the bad
CLA.  But before deploying FAS2, the cla was actually fixed in FAS1 :)  So
it was actually correct for at least a short time before FAS2 got
deployed.

Anywho, as you can see, we have lots of auditing on stuff like this should
we ever need it :)  hope you enjoyed reading the brief timeline of the
creation of "atents" as I enjoyed investigating it!

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Re: Oh my !!!

[Mike McGrath]

On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Why do all the links in http://get.fedoraproject.org and other places end with
> a !. Maybe it is just me but I tend to find them annoying noise.
>

heh, its even worse then that.  It seems the installable live CD is
exciting!  While the upgrade process is not.  :)

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Fedora Spins makes my head spin... (fwd)

[Mike McGrath]

Forwarding on to our web team.

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:08:12
From: Ricardo Mendonça Ferreira 
To: ad...@fedoraproject.org
Subject: Fedora Spins makes my head spin...

Hi there!

Excuse me, but is there a page in http://spins.fedoraproject.org/ that explains
what is each spin?

I've been a Fedora user since version 1 (up to version 6), and used it on
several computers. Now I wanted to give it a try again, and the possibility of
using an "official" Live CD (instead of going through the trouble of creating my
own) is very enticing.

The problem is: how am I supposed to know what is in each spin? The names are
cryptic, there are no links for documentation, no list of packages on each spin,
not even a brief description (or non-cryptic name) of each spin!

I believe that the spartan page is characteristic of the Linux ethos, but that's
also one of the reasons for it to not be so widely adopted... not to mention
that it doesn't make justice to the hard work of those who put effort and spent
time creating those spins.

I'll probably try the installation DVD using Qemu anyway, but I wanted to let
you know about this problem since I'm sure a lot of other people will think the
same: a good (even short) description of the spins would make them much, much
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Re: Front Icon

[Mike McGrath]

On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote:

> Mike McGrath wrote:
> > Can we shrink the front page icon?
> >
> > http://fedoraproject.org/static/images/f10launch.png
> >
> > Currently at 139K, its not huge or anything but I traveled a lot today and
> > it was noticeably slow to load compared to the rest of the content.  if
> > there's nothing we can do, there's nothing we can do but I thought I'd
> > ask.
>
> Not by much if we want to keep the rounded corners transparent (PNG), after
> optimization I can get it only to 132.5K, not much as a saving:
> http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/banners/f10launch.png
>
> So to a real decrease we have to make some compromises:
>
> - switch to PNG with indexed colors at 58K, but the dithering really looks
> ugly: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/banners/f10launch_indexed.png
>
> - switch to JPEG with no compression to preserve the image quality but replace
> the transparent corners with a white background at 70K:
> http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/banners/f10launch.jpg
>
> - if needed, we can play further with JPEG compression and decrease the file
> size more, like this at 34K (I believe it still look good but also there is
> room to decrease the size): http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/banners/f10launch1.jpg
>

Naw, no worries.  It's not costing that much but figured it would be worth
it
to ask.

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Front Icon

[Mike McGrath]

Can we shrink the front page icon?

http://fedoraproject.org/static/images/f10launch.png

Currently at 139K, its not huge or anything but I traveled a lot today and
it was noticeably slow to load compared to the rest of the content.  if
there's nothing we can do, there's nothing we can do but I thought I'd
ask.

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Re: Meeting Log - 2008-12-01

[Mike McGrath]

On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Máirí­n Duffy wrote:

> Till Maas wrote:
> > On Tue December 2 2008, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > > Ricky Zhou wrote:
> > > > 22:10 < ricky> Somebody suggested that we have a link to
> > > > http://fedoraproject.org/verify on the get-fedora pages.  I wonder where
> > > > that should go... 22:10 < ricky> Hopefully, we can make it fit in with
> > > > the friendliness of the page, if you know what I mean
> > > Before we add another link to the page, can we get a bit more of the
> > > context on how users are expected to interact with these sums? How often
> > > do users typically use these?
> >
> > Everytime users download a new iso image, they should verify it using the
> > SHA1SUM file to ensure that nobody tampered it.
>

This one's a two fold thing.  The number of people that have access to
publish an iso as well as alter the verify page is actually very small (on
purpose).

I think this is one of those dirty little secrets where we publish the
information to keep ourselves safe but no one ever uses it.  I'm not sure
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Re: Connecting to FedoraPeople

[Mike McGrath]

I don't see any inalid requests for rmenezes.  What command exactly are
you running and what do you get from the output of "whoami"

-Mike

On Fri, 24 Oct 2008, Rodrigo Menezes wrote:

> Guys,
>
> I'm having some problems to connect to SSH in fedorapeople, it's saying that 
> I don't have rights.
>
> I attached my SSH public key (attached in this message) and it isn't working, 
> I recreate the key 5 times. My user is
> rmenezes, can you help me with this?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rodrigo Menezes
>
>

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Re: fedora hosted trac src

[Mike McGrath]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> Alex Tsariounov wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I see you use Trac for Fedora Hosted and that various version control
> > systems are supported on your site that are not included in the Trac
> > src release.  Do you publish the modifications/plugins you created for
> > Trac?
>
> You can find many trac plugins and other mods including ones used by
> fedorahosted.org at
>
> http://trac-hacks.org/
>

With the exception of some custom scripts all of what we run on
fedorahosted.org is yummable:

trac-mercurial-plugin-0.10.0.2-3.20070705svn5798.el5
trac-bazaar-plugin-0.2-5.20070829bzr182.el5
trac-0.10.5-1.el5
trac-git-plugin-0.0.1-5.20070705svn1536.el5
email2trac-0.13-3.el5
trac-ticketdelete-plugin-1.1.4-1.20071126svn2825.el5
trac-toc-macro-1.0-3.20070715svn2475.el5
trac-monotone-plugin-0.0.14-1.20080208mtnb4dd178b.el5
trac-iniadmin-plugin-0.1-2.20071126svn2824.el5
trac-webadmin-plugin-0.1.2dev-2.20070716svn5753.el5

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Re: Problem with ssh to fedorapeople.org

[Mike McGrath]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
>  
>
> I am trying to ssh to fedorapeople.org to commit some of my packages which 
> have been reviewed.
>
> The ssh session with fedorapeople.org refuses to accept my password.
>
> Can anyone help me with this.
>
>  
>
> Username: srini
>

I'm seeing failed password for your user.  Please make sure you can log in
to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/ with the username and
password you are using.  Also I believe that as of this morning we no
longer allow password auth to that host so you should use your ssh key for
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Re: adding releases to bodhi and cluttered menu

[Mike McGrath]

Replying for discussion on the websites list:

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Patrice Dumas wrote:

> Hello,
>
> This question is asked in the context of
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pertusus/Draft_keeping_infra_open_for_EOL
> which has not already been approved by FESCO, so this could have no
> follow-up, though I think that this issue is also relevant for EPEL.
>
> Till raised an interesting issue associated with adding more releases in
> bodhi: each release takes some place in the left menu. Another could
> still be right, but I think that 4 or more will certainly be
> problematic. Has this issue already been considered? What is the plan
> for EPEL when it switches to using bodhi? In addition to being there
> there will be in the end 3 to 5 EPEL versions in parallel so this is
> certainly an issue that will arise.
>
> Any comment, idea?
>
> If it ends up that for the proposal (or for EPEL) another bodhi server
> has to be set up, can you tell if it is easy rather easy to set up and
> administer or rather hard?
>

What does the websites team think?

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Re: docs.fp.o theming

[Mike McGrath]

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> Ricky Zhou wrote:
> > A round of applause for Michael (tw2113).  Thanks to him, docs.fp.o has
> > been updated with the new Fedora theme: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/.
> > We've been looking forward to this change for a while now.
>
> True however the side links appear kind of cramped and the grey background for
> the links within the page don't fit with the rest of the website theme.
>

When can we be expecting your patches Rahul ;-)

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Wiki page creation request

[Mike McGrath]

Its been brought up before but the works still not done, anyone interested
in creating a wiki page for the Infrastructure team that lists various
technologies we use, where people can go to find out more and download
them?

Anyone with wiki access can do this, email me if you're interested.

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Re: You guys decide

[Mike McGrath]

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008, Max Spevack wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>
> > Mike McGrath wrote:
> > > Should we do this or not.  It changes the way mediawiki behaves but I
> > > think it is a decision that should be made by this team, not
> > > infrastructure.
> > >
> > > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/636
> >
> > I would vote for making this change. It is terribly annoying that I have to
> > remove a slash to get the page I want.
>
> I vote +1, based on the rest of this thread.  Make the change.
>

Implemented.  Some cached pages will need to timeout but it's more or less
up and ready.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/ (test)

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Re: You guys decide

[Mike McGrath]

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Ian Weller wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Max Spevack wrote:
>
> > Can someone briefly say like 3 potential positives and negatives of making
> > the change versus not making the change?
> >
>
> Positives:
> 1. No confusion between Artwork/ and Artwork, they become one in the
>same, just not within the wiki -- and so when people post a link like
>http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ to a mailing list it goes to
>the right place
> 2. No pages will be allowed to end in slashes
> 3. More URL consistency
> 4. *And* if you really want to go to a page ending in a slash, you can
>add a # at the end of the URL.
>
> Negatives:
> 1. No pages will be allowed to end in slashes
> 2. Umm... I can't think of any more
>

negatives:

1) If there are any pages with and without a /.  One of them will never be
seen again.
2) unforseen.  I'm not aware of others doing this, its not the 'mediawiki
way'  Truth is we don't know what will happen.  Its a risk, I'm not sure
its very big though.

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You guys decide

[Mike McGrath]

Should we do this or not.  It changes the way mediawiki behaves but I
think it is a decision that should be made by this team, not
infrastructure.

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/636

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Help Page Needs some... Help

[Mike McGrath]

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Help is linked to by the Help on the left
side of the wiki.  Its a pretty prominent link, think anyone could spruce
it up?  Especially targeting new people that might click on it looking for
things like how to sign up for an account, etc.

Perhaps multiple sections, one for help with the Fedora Project and the
other section with links to various help on the wiki like wiki markup,
etc.

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Outage Notification - 2008-07-22 04:59 UTC (MAJOR)

[Mike McGrath]

There will be an outage starting at 2008-07-22 04:59 UTC, which will last
approximately 10 hours.

To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto
or run:

date -d '2008-07-22 04:59 UTC'

Affected Services:

Websites
Buildsystem
Database

Unaffected Services:

CVS / Source Control
DNS
Mail
Torrent
Fedora Hosted
Talk

Ticket Link:

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/705

Reason for Outage:

Re-migrating db1 to its new hardware (memory issues have hopefully been
resolved).  Moving koji database from db2 to a dedicated new server, db3.

The db1 outage will cause the wiki and smolt to be offline for no longer
then an hour.

The koji move will cause the buildsystem (and whatever depends on the
build system) to be down for between 8 and 10 hours.  We haven't padded
the outage so if something goes wrong, we'll have to abort and re-schedule
it for another time.  Likely the next night so be prepared.  Also please
make sure any builds you complete any builds prior to the time of the
outage.

Contact Information:

Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to
track the status of this outage.

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