Re: mixing

2006-04-24 Thread felv
Over a year old is an adult, as far as immune systems are concerned. Many vets 
say 8
months is old enough to fully develop FELV immunity. Personally, I think a year 
is
safer.

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Re: mixing

2006-04-24 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
Yep, here comes my opinion- I had a kitten that was a false negative.
When his virus activated after a dental, when he had anesthesia, he
infected three of mine - none of whom had been vaccinated. Two died and
one reverted to negative within a month. 
This was my first experience with FELV - I had no idea that my little
one was now positive and shedding the virus - I just know that almost
suddenly he was slowing down and becoming ill. 

Bonnie in WI

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, April 24, 2006 4:25 pm
Subject: Re: mixing
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

> You'll get a mixed reply on that one.  I have mixed, and will again 
> - 
> don't because I have foster kitties that belong to the rescue 
> group.  It's kind of a hot potato.  Some vets euthanize the pos.  
> Our 
> rescue vet says he doesn't think it's that contagious (and I agree, 
> I 
> don't think it's that contagious).  Lots of vets in between.  
> And... 
> some folks say vaccinate the negs, some don't.
> 
> Gloria
> 
> 
> At 03:19 PM 4/24/2006, you wrote:
> >So is eveyone here saying it is ok to mix my pos and my neg?
> >
> >
> >Sincerely
> >Carrie
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 



Re: mixing

2006-04-24 Thread carrie chance

adults, what age do you consider an adult ..


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Subject: Re: mixing


I say mix, no need to vaccinate healthy adult cats. The FELV vaccine is 
MORE apt to
CAUSE vaccine associated sarcoma (cancer) than it is to improve immunity 
against FELV
in adult cats. In other words, there are more BAD things against the 
VACCINE than

there are bad things against mixing adult cats with FELV+ cats.

And yes, I can back that up with facts if needed.

That is, of course, MY personal advise, and it will vary between members 
here.


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Re: mixing

2006-04-24 Thread felv
I say mix, no need to vaccinate healthy adult cats. The FELV vaccine is MORE 
apt to
CAUSE vaccine associated sarcoma (cancer) than it is to improve immunity 
against FELV
in adult cats. In other words, there are more BAD things against the VACCINE 
than
there are bad things against mixing adult cats with FELV+ cats.

And yes, I can back that up with facts if needed.

That is, of course, MY personal advise, and it will vary between members here.

Jenn
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http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:
http://ucat.us/adopt.html
PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:
Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire 
around
his neck to strangle him,
Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find 
him a
good home!
http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.html
DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera 
(for
pictures), and more towels!



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Re: mixing

2006-04-24 Thread carrie chance



they are all vaccinated, all my cats are 
vaccinated, even those they claim
are positives. doesnt make any sence, i have done 
the IFA testing today should know
probably next week. None of them look sick, none of 
them ever looked sick and all previously were tested NEG and 
vaccinated..all sibling tested and vaccinated too and they are neg. I say 
cats i mean a year old or older
 
carrie

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  catatonya 
  
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 5:57 
PM
  Subject: Re: mixing
  
  All negatives need to be vaccinated and then boosted within 3 
  weeks.  I would then wait 3 more weeks. Then I would mix.  That is 
  what I did over 10 years ago.
   
  My positive was a kitten and one of my other fosters was a kitten 
  too.  He never became positive either from the positive.  That was 
  over 10 years ago.  I have since brought in another positive.  And 
  I've also brought in another negative with just her first shot because that 
  was basically the only choice we had.  I had her boostered and so far 
  she's fine.  This last negative brought in was an adult and it was about 
  2 years ago.
   
  I don't think any of it's fullproof. but I'm not choosing one 
  life over the other in my house.  We take the precautions we can (with 
  vaccinations) and know there are risks involved.
   
  tSusan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  No, 
not necessarily.  Are your negatives vaccinated against 
FeLV?hd cc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

  
  

  So is eveyone here saying it is ok to mix my pos and 
  my neg?
   
   
  Sincerely Carrie
   
   


Re: mixing

2006-04-24 Thread catatonya
All negatives need to be vaccinated and then boosted within 3 weeks.  I would then wait 3 more weeks. Then I would mix.  That is what I did over 10 years ago.     My positive was a kitten and one of my other fosters was a kitten too.  He never became positive either from the positive.  That was over 10 years ago.  I have since brought in another positive.  And I've also brought in another negative with just her first shot because that was basically the only choice we had.  I had her boostered and so far she's fine.  This last negative brought in was an adult and it was about 2 years ago.     I don't think any of it's fullproof. but I'm not choosing one life over the other in my house.  We take the precautions we can (with vaccinations) and know there are risks involved.     tSusan Hoffman
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  No, not necessarily.  Are your negatives vaccinated against FeLV?hd cc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   So is eveyone here saying it is ok to mix my pos and my neg?        Sincerely Carrie      

Re: mixing

2006-04-24 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



Carrie,
I personally don't mix positives with cats that are up for 
adoption...just in case
Karen


Re: mixing

2006-04-24 Thread gblane
You'll get a mixed reply on that one.  I have mixed, and will again - 
don't because I have foster kitties that belong to the rescue 
group.  It's kind of a hot potato.  Some vets euthanize the pos.  Our 
rescue vet says he doesn't think it's that contagious (and I agree, I 
don't think it's that contagious).  Lots of vets in between.  And... 
some folks say vaccinate the negs, some don't.


Gloria


At 03:19 PM 4/24/2006, you wrote:

So is eveyone here saying it is ok to mix my pos and my neg?


Sincerely
Carrie







Re: mixing

2006-04-24 Thread Susan Hoffman
No, not necessarily.  Are your negatives vaccinated against FeLV?hd cc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  So is eveyone here saying it is ok to mix my pos and my neg?        Sincerely Carrie      

mixing

2006-04-24 Thread hd cc



So is eveyone here saying it is ok to mix my pos and my 
neg?
 
 
Sincerely Carrie
 
 


Re: CLS.....for Angel Sam "Tammers"

2006-04-24 Thread Belinda

 Hi Terrie,
 Got Sam posted.

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Re: Angel Sam aka "Tammers"

2006-04-24 Thread Barb Moermond
I would love to see him:)[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:If you would to see a photo of my Angel Sam let me know and I would be more than glad to send it to you.  He was a beautiful and stout Siamese.         Terrie MohrTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescueBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous
	
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CLS.....for Angel Sam "Tammers"

2006-04-24 Thread TatorBunz


Belinda,
    Could you put Sam on the CLS for Non-Felv kitties? 
He died on March 16th, 2006     2 years old
He was a healthy kitty.
Thank you so much.   :(
 
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Re: I'm Back!!! Sorry so long.......

2006-04-24 Thread Joan Doljan
Glad you are back!     Joan[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all,      Wanted to let you know I'm back after 6-7 weeks of hell. From Feb. 28th through the current time.  My home and rescue was being relocated on some property with about 3 acres.     I owned a very nice huge manufactured home with additions and covered decks that were damaged by the mobile home movers in
 transit. They are being sued of course. We have a contractor coming on the 25th of April to start repairing all the damages. The damages are unbelievable but at least we are able to live in the home. You name it it is damaged. My home sat until the latter part of March, wasn't ready until the first week of April to live in. When it was supposed to be moved 1st of March.   Yes, I'm a little pissed putting it mildly.  At least we have water and heat.     Due to the stress of my Siamese being in boarding I lost one that broke my heart. All were Vet checked prior and were in perfect health.   They had been in boarding since the 27th of Feb.  I hold the mobile home movers responsible for this. My home was supposed to be moved on the 1st of March which didn't happen. So the kitties were in boarding over 18 days until we lost my "Sam" then we yanked them all out and took them to the motel we were staying out. I could tell I was going to lose a few more if I didn't do so. Yes, we did sneak them all in the room. Told housekeeping we do our own cleaning and such. We paid an extra $150 for a deposit to have them. They knew we had Siameses but didn't know how many.  A few of you know what I have been going through. It has been hell for my husband and myself. Things are starting to get better but my heart still aches for the loss of my Sam. I am glad to say I was able to bring him home to bury him on our
 new property. Thank god it was raining that day because while I was burying him I was crying my eyeballs out. He didn't have to die but I knew in my heart that it was stress and anxiety that got him.   The amazing thing was on our way to see the cats before taking them to the room there was a beautiful rainbow that afternoon. My husband commented afterwards that it was Sam passing and going to the bridge.     So reality is I'm back and hope to get my cattery built when the funds become available.     P.S.  My mailing address and phone number is the same for the
 rescue.    Terrie MohrTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue

Fw: MALE / FEMALE ATMS

2006-04-24 Thread Sandra


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FEMALE PROCEDURE:


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2. Reverse and back up the required distance to align car window with 
the

machine.

3. Set parking brake, put the window down.

4. Find handbag, remove all contents on to passenger seat to locate 
card.


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6. Attempt to insert card into machine.

7. Open car door to allow easier access to machine due to its excessive
distance from the car.

8. Insert card.

9. Re-insert card the right way.

10. Dig through handbag to find diary with your PIN written on the 
inside

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11. Enter PIN.

12. Press cancel and re-enter correct PIN.

13. Enter amount of cash required.

14. Check makeup in rear view mirror.

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17. Write debit amount in check register and place receipt in back of
checkbook.

18. Re-check makeup.

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Re: CLS question for Belinda

2006-04-24 Thread Belinda

  Hi Kerry,
 I'm sorry to hear about Snoopy, I have added him.

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