Re: clonicalm??

2006-09-20 Thread Marylyn



I can't address the clonicalm but I can tell you 
that all my cats foam(ed) at the mouth if the pred or some antibiotics didn't 
get pushed down the throat far enough and they taste(d) the meds.





 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  catatonya 
  
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:42 
  PM
  Subject: RE: clonicalm??
  
  Her pills say 2.5mg. Maybe it was the taste because she didn't 
  actually throw up anything but a little foam. I gave her wet food right 
  after giving her the pill, but maybe she should eat first?
  
  tChris [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  




My 
Tucson went on clonicalm 
about a year ago. She’s got some ‘issues’ with Romeo and she does have 
this occasional habit of urinating on beds, floors, etc. Has the 
clonicalm worked miracles—no, but it did help a bit. I sort of think 
she’s just one of those high maintenace cats!

Anyway she takes 10 
mg. per day (1/2 of a 20 mg. pill) and has not had side effects. I 
usually give it to her in a pill pocket or a treat or a bit of favorite 
food. Maybe the taste is bad and that’s what made your cat throw 
up… Of course, you have to know that outside of sleeping, eating is 
Tucson’s favorite pastime 
so its hard to judge by her…




Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:09 
PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: 
clonicalm??


Has anyone's cat had a reaction to 
clonicalm. My positive DD went for a check up yesterday. You 
might remember that she seems stressed and overgrooms. She has also 
started urinating on the bed. Well everything checked out so we 
decided to try clonicalm.



I gave her one dose yesterday, and then 
tonight when I gave it to her she threw up and foamed at the mouth. I 
won't give her anymore, but does anyone know anything about this drug, or 
what else I might try?



tonya


Fwd: Re: Fwd: positive cat

2006-09-20 Thread Susan Franklin
In addition, can someone assist me in changing my email address so I can
continue to correspond with you all

THANKS!!



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/19/06 9:10:49 PM 
Can someone tell Iona how to join the group?
   
  I think you go to the website and sign up.  And I 'think' it's
www.felv.org ??
   
  tonya

Ioana-Dina Rican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 09:01:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ioana-Dina Rican [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fwd: positive cat
To: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Hi Tonya,
   
  I don't know how to join your list.
   
  Ioana

catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
   
  Please send advice to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  She has not joined the
list (yet, I hope)!  Read below to see her questions.
   
  If you don't mind I'm going to forward this to the list.  We have to
eat veterinary diet food here because I have a cat that has crystals.  I
would certainly NOT worry about keeping these cats together.  It is
nearly impossible for an adult vaccinated cat to catch leukemia.  Also,
I let my vaccines lapse all the time and that hasn't made a difference
either.  
   
  Maybe you can join the list if you like.  It is a wonderful list and
a wonderful source of information.
   
  tonya

Ioana-Dina Rican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Tonya,
   
  I am the one that found the cat and brought her in the house.  I
retested her yesterday, they run the test twice and indeed it is
positive.  One of the other cats, which is around 6 years old, is caught
up with the vaccines.  The other one, which is 2 years old, had the
vaccine and the booster in July 2004.  I didn't do any vaccine in 2005
because I gave up on chasing her to take her to the vet.  I did
vaccinate her now in July 2006, but nobody gave me an answer if I have
to give her a booster.  What is your personal opinion?  Lola, the
positive one, is doing fine for the moment.  She's gaining weight.  For
a medium cat she's 8.6 lbs.  She would just eat all the time.  I could
not keep them separated because I didn't want to stress them and knowing
that stress is an important factor in their health.  What food do you
feed your positive cats?  My cats are used just with dry food.  Do you
know any affordable brand that is recommended?
   
  Ioana


  

catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006
14:30:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: positive cat
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Hi Elizabeth.
   
  If both your other cats are negative, and especially if they are
vaccinatedthere is very, very little chance your cats would contract
the disease.  I have had mixed positives and negatives for years and
have never had anyone transfer the disease to any of my negatives.  I'm
on a list (and have been for over 10 years) of hundreds of people that
mix with NO PROBLEM.  I would be glad to send your email to the list for
some reassurance if you are interested.  There is really no reason you
can't keep this cat.  If I weren't over full I would offer myself.  If
you want more info. please feel free to contact me.  If your negative
cats are NOT vaccinated you could vaccinate them and then safely
integrate.  I have brought in strays after having had only their first
shot and not even a booster yet and had no problems.
  tonya

Louise Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Plz cross post and contact Elizabeth below if you can help.

-- Forwarded Message
From: Elizabeth Burgner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 16:58:58 -0700 (PDT)
To: Spot Society [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: [atlantarescue] FeLV+ AND all-4 declawed cat needs home

Lola was found at an apt complex in Norcross and has tested positive
for FeLV.  I'm driving her to LAP tomorrow to see if she's spayed; no
spay scar is evident, but if she's not spayed yet she will be after
tomorrow!  
  
The person who found Lola has 2 negative cat and nowhere to isolate
Lola, so she needs a foster ASAP.


Elizabeth Burgner


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Re: ImmunoRegulin

2006-09-20 Thread Lernermichelle




I-R, in my experience, is way way way more effective than Interferon in 
getting rid of colds. If that is what Satch has, and he just can't kick 
it, I would very much recommend I-R over Interferon. I have tried both multiple 
times.

One of my cats, Ginger, did get temporary side effects from I-R, and they 
were quite scary. Basically her fever went up a lot for about a half hour or 
so-- up to 106 I think-- and she got chills. This happened both times I gave it 
to her. But when the fever came down a half hour later she was much better than 
before, and a cold that was keeping her from eating and had not responded to 
antibiotics went away completely after two I-R shots 3 days apart. I used 
I-R with another cat, Patches, who did not have any side effects. Others on the 
list have used it successfully with no side effects as well, and the shelter 
where my cats came from uses it all the time and none of the cats have had the 
side effects. I think they are rare. At any rate, they are very temporary. 
I did not like them, but I was very glad I gave Ginger the I-R because she got 
so much better right after the second dose and nothing else was working. I think 
the fever showed that the I-R really did stimulate her immune system to kick in. 
Something else to think about-- I gave Ginger (and Patches) 1 ml each 
time. The recommended dose is actually 1/2 to 1 ml, which I did not 
realize at the time (was going by the recommended dose in the article on the www.felineleukemia.org web page) and 
probably should have given her 1/2 ml at least the first time to see if she had 
any side effects. I would start with 1/2 ml not 1 ml.

Hope this helps,
Michelle



In a message dated 9/19/2006 12:26:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Hi guys,
  I tried to look up archived ImmunoRegulin info, but I didn't turn up 
  anything - I know that it's discussed constantly, which confused me. 
  Maybe I'm spelling it wrong?
  
  Anyway, I'm taking the kitten in for her check up tonight - she is still 
  doing great. I'm going to see about getting her on Interferon.
  
  Satch is still coughing, dang it. I was thinking about requesting 
  either ImmunoRegulin or Interferon to try and get control on it. He's 
  fine otherwise, no temp, no lethargy, no nothing, just coughs sometimes. 
  Between the two, which would you recommend? I did some online searching 
  and found some side effects listed for ImmunoRegulin, have any of the rest of 
  you experienced these with your cats? And this site says that 
  ImmunoRegulin is given as a shot, so I'd need to take Satch in for them. 
  If Interferon and ImmunoRegulin are equals, I'd rather not have to put him 
  through shots. How many do your cats normally get before the course is 
  complete? 
  
  http://www.felineleukemia.org/ireginfo.html
  
  Thank you!Leslie




Re: Crackers Pix

2006-09-20 Thread wendy
What a love!  I just want to hug that little bear!

:)
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Re: ImmunoRegulin

2006-09-20 Thread Leslie
Thank you so much, Michelle. I printed out the articles from this website (I hadn't realized that I was posting from our own resources before!) for my vet and she's doing some research on her own before getting back to me. I will forward your response to her as well.


I'm taking Satch in for a chest x-ray tomorrow to try and get a better idea of what his cough is all about.

Thanks again!
Leslie

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: ImmunoRegulin
I-R, in my experience, is way way way more effective than Interferon ingetting rid of colds.If that is what Satch has, and he just can't kickit, Iwould very much recommend I-R over Interferon. I have tried both multipletimes.
One of my cats, Ginger, did get temporary side effects from I-R, and theywere quite scary. Basically her fever went up a lot for about a half hour orso-- up to 106 I think-- and she got chills. This happened both times I gave it
to her. But when the fever came down a half hour later she was much betterthanbefore, and a cold that was keeping her from eating and had not respondedtoantibiotics went away completely after two I-R shots 3 days apart.I used
I-R with another cat, Patches, who did not have any side effects. Others onthelist have used it successfully with no side effects as well, and theshelterwhere my cats came from uses it all the time and none of the cats have
had theside effects. I think they are rare. At any rate, they are verytemporary. I did not like them, but I was very glad I gave Ginger the I-R becauseshe gotso much better right after the second dose and nothing else was
working. I thinkthe fever showed that the I-R really did stimulate her immunesystem to kick in.Something else to think about-- I gave Ginger (and Patches) 1ml eachtime.The recommended dose is actually 1/2 to 1 ml, which I did not
realize at the time (was going by the recommended dose in the article on the_www.felineleukemia.org_ (http://www.felineleukemia.org)web page) andprobably should have given her 1/2 ml at least the first time to see if she had
any side effects. I would start with 1/2 ml not 1 ml.Hope this helps,Michelle


Re: Crackers Pix

2006-09-20 Thread Watsdadillyo



Crackers says a BIG thank you meow kiss meow kiss:)
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2006-09-20 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








What does it mean? Is it because she is a bit anemic?








Hello / intro / new subscriber

2006-09-20 Thread Andrew Werner
Hi!I was referred to your list by someone on the Yahoo purringpixiecat  list - about FELV and FIV cats. The person said y'all would have  some ideas about whether or not it is wise / ok to mix FELV+ cats with  negative cats.12 cats live with my wife and me; ten are negatve for both viruses, one  (Wellington) is FIV+ but integrated since that virus is supposed to be  hard to transmit, and one (PC - Purring Cat, Problem Child) is  FELV+ and lives separately - but is happy and healthy and has outlived  the Vet's projections by about two years so far.Four FELV+ kittens are in my care too. There was a litter of 6 at  work. One kitten died so we realized we needed to act, and  trapped the other 5 and Mama.One has tested negative twice and is placed. Mama also tested  negative twice (she is one of the 12 at our house, and fitting in quite  well). The other four are about 4 months old now, and have
 tested  FELV+ twice.I will not "put them to sleep" - they are playful and getting  socialized, and their hemocrit values are "good" according to the  Vet. However, both my wife and I are reluctant to bring them in  with the rest of the crew, and PC might not want to share his "domain"  with them - and I don't want to stress him. I would love to place  them, but do not want to "stick" anyone with my problems.Anyway, sorry to go on at such length but I wanted to introduce myself and ask for your advice. Thanks in advance.Regards,  Andrew 
	

	
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Re: morbid question about finding autopsy studies

2006-09-20 Thread catatonya
Did you find an answer to this one Michele? If not I can ask my vet about it. She does forensics for abuse cases and would probably know how to go about it.  ttamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Try your local Veternary college. Often they will do that sort of thing and incorporated it into a teaching exercise.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Someone from the shelter I used to work with asked me to help her find a place that can do a toxicity study on a deceased cat, which they have frozen. They think there was veterinary malpractice (the cat died in
 surgery, after several others did as well with the same new vet) and do not know where to get this kind of study. Apparently they brought the cat to Tufts, a university vet hospital, and they did a necropsy but no tox analysis. any thoughts?thanks,  michelle  Do you Yahoo!?Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.

Re: Behavior Problems

2006-09-20 Thread catatonya
The urine smell from an unneutered cat is like a million times worse than a neutered one. I don't see how anything could get that smell out... My cats are neutered. We have some accidents, but the odor can be cleaned and not run us out of the house like it has when I fosteredrecently neuteredcats who went in the litterbox. Even in the litterbox it was horrible.  t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Get yourself some 'Urine Gone' (as seen on tv - the stuff really works)...and then get yourself some Feliway spray (www.entirelypets.com has it for $16.99 - best price I've seen). Spritz that Feliway anywhere he is inclined to
 spray or scratch - as scratching is also a scent marking function. It works wonders. I have five males...they are all neutered but we still have issues with territory marking and sibling rivalry on occasion- but the Feliway works wonders. Good luck. He's just doing what intact boys do naturally...In a message dated 9/19/2006 10:47:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:  Our FELV+ has developed a very bad habit of spraying around the house. Especially in shoes. He's also started urinating at our bedroom doors when we shut them to go to bed.He's intact because I don't believe in Neutering. (He's kept away from other cats, so
 please don't make that a huge issue.)I believe he might be happier in a home where he can socialize. Is there anyone on here who can take him? You can neuter him once he's yours.My other cat is very old FIV+ with multiple problems and they don't get along. He's feeling very left out, and I'm at the end of my rope with him.Any ideas to calm his nerves, or anyone who wants a beautiful 30lb white cat?Steph  Support bacteria. They're the only culture some people have.

Re: Hello / intro / new subscriber

2006-09-20 Thread catatonya
I have mixed over 10 years. Just be sure to get all cats vaccinated and boostered before mixing. It's not 100% full proof, but I'm beginning to think it's 99.9% :)tonyaAndrew Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi!I was referred to your list by someone on the Yahoo purringpixiecat list - about FELV and FIV cats. The person said y'all would have some ideas about whether or not it is wise / ok to mix FELV+ cats with negative cats.12 cats live with my wife and me; ten are negatve for both viruses, one (Wellington) is FIV+ but integrated since that virus is supposed to be hard to transmit, and one (PC - Purring Cat, Problem Child) is FELV+ and lives separately - but is happy and healthy and has outlived the Vet's projections by about two years so
 far.Four FELV+ kittens are in my care too. There was a litter of 6 at work. One kitten died so we realized we needed to act, and trapped the other 5 and Mama.One has tested negative twice and is placed. Mama also tested negative twice (she is one of the 12 at our house, and fitting in quite well). The other four are about 4 months old now, and have tested FELV+ twice.I will not "put them to sleep" - they are playful and getting socialized, and their hemocrit values are "good" according to the Vet. However, both my wife and I are reluctant to bring them in with the rest of the crew, and PC might not want to share his "domain" with them - and I don't want to stress him. I would love to place them, but do not want to "stick" anyone with my problems.Anyway, sorry to go on at such length but I wanted to introduce myself and ask for your advice. Thanks in advance.Regards,Andrew   
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Re: clonicalm??

2006-09-20 Thread catatonya
Thanks Marylyn. I left it off tonight. I'm going to try half a pill coated in food (won't eat pill pockets) tomorrow night.  thanks,  tMarylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I can't address the clonicalm but I can tell you that all my cats foam(ed) at the mouth if the pred or some antibiotics didn't get pushed down the throat far enough and they taste(d) the meds.   
  If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who
  will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis- Original Message -   From: catatonya   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:42 PM  Subject: RE: clonicalm??Her pills say 2.5mg. Maybe it was the taste because she didn't actually throw up anything but a little foam. I gave her wet food right after giving her the pill, but maybe she should eat first?tChris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
   My Tucson went on clonicalm about a year ago. She’s got some ‘issues’ with Romeo and she does have this occasional habit of urinating on beds, floors, etc. Has the clonicalm worked miracles—no, but it did help a bit. I sort of think she’s just one of those high maintenace cats!Anyway she takes 10 mg. per day (1/2 of a 20 mg. pill) and has not had side effects. I usually give it to her in a pill pocket or a treat or a bit of favorite food. Maybe the taste is bad and that’s what made your cat throw up… Of course, you have to
 know that outside of sleeping, eating is Tucson’s favorite pastime so its hard to judge by her…  Chris  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:09 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: clonicalm??  Has anyone's cat had a reaction to clonicalm. My positive DD went for a check up yesterday. You might remember that she seems stressed and overgrooms. She has also started urinating on the bed. Well everything checked out so we decided to try clonicalm.I gave her one dose yesterday, and then tonight when I gave it to her she threw up and foamed at the mouth. I won't give her anymore, but does anyone know anything about this drug, or what else I might try?tonya

Re: ot - prayers please

2006-09-20 Thread catatonya
Take some fancy feast to her and maybe she'll let you catch her. I hope she comes back to see you.  tBarb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Belinda,  Could Little Lady be added to the prayer list? When I got home from class last night there was a pretty little white and buff kitty sitting in the grassy median between the parking lot sections and she wouldn't let me near her, but she sat about 20' away and we had a conversation for several minutes - I can do meows and chirps very well as Bandit and I have little talks too. She was very attentive when I chirped, but she was clearly not letting me near her - she walked away with a pronounced limp and I was sad all night - but we can only do what they let us do, if that much   Thanks a bunchBarb+Smoky the
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new to FeLV

2006-09-20 Thread Peggy Ankney








Hi All,



I too am a new subscriber looking for advice. Ive learned
much about this virus in the past 12 hours because the stray cat (Scooter) that
my husband and I are in the process of adopting (well, hes adopted us
really) is FeLV+. The vet called me today after I dropped
him off for neutering and shots to tell me the test was positive (she repeated
the test to confirm) and recommended Scooter be PTS. We cant do that  but we
have two negative (but vaccinated) cats already. We are very torn between putting our
cats at risk and saving Scooter. So
after a very difficult day of unsuccessfully trying to find a home for Scooter,
weve decided to keep him.
All the web sites say you have to keep the pos cats isolated from the neg, but I dont see how I can do that without
locking Scooter in a room for the rest of his life. Montana and Karma
are indoor/outdoor cats (we have a door with magnetic-activated lock). We can turn the door around so Scooter
cant get out but ours can still come and go as they please but were
going to give Scooter the run of the house, which isnt a big house by
todays standards. I dont
know if we can keep their food separate  Montana is older and underweight
so I dont want to take away the gravity feed bowl and limit his eating. Also, Montana and Karma
rarely use the litter pan, as they prefer the great outdoors, but in rainy or
cold weather they use it. Scooter
will have to use it, as hes got to stay indoors for the rest of his life. From what Ive read online, these
arent the main ways that the virus is transmitted. I know grooming is a big one, but we dont
have a clear picture of whether they will eventually become friendly enough for
that (no chance of it just yet). So
my question is  what has been the experience of others in similar
situations, and do you have any good advice for a couple of scared cat lovers? Something I might have missed on the other
web sites that will help me keep all three cats happy and healthy as possible? Montana is about 12
years, Karma maybe 8, and Scooter probably 6 months. (Thanks everyone! Ive enjoyed reading your posts.)
-peggy








RE: new to FeLV

2006-09-20 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt



You've come to the right place, Peggy. This list is a fount 
of great advice.

You 
will very shortly be told by several people on this list that they have safely 
mixed their positive and negative cats, and that the key to doing this safely is 
to make sure the other cats are up to date on their vaccines and boosters. 
They will tell you what drugs to use to keep Scooter's immune system going 
strong, and how to keep him stress-free. I would worry a little about your 
vet's attitude, many vets are more enlightened. Also, you should 
have Scooter tested again in a couple MONTHS, since in some instances a cat can 
throw off the virus, though this is more common in kittens than in adult 
positives.

Good 
luck with Scooter!

Diane R.

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Peggy 
  AnkneySent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 8:45 PMTo: 
  Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: new to 
FeLV
  
  Hi 
  All,
  
  I too am a new subscriber looking 
  for advice. Ive learned much about this virus in the past 12 hours because 
  the stray cat (Scooter) that my husband and I are in the process of adopting 
  (well, hes adopted us really) is FeLV+. The vet called me today after I dropped 
  him off for neutering and shots to tell me the test was positive (she repeated 
  the test to confirm) and recommended Scooter be PTS. We cant do that  but we have two 
  negative (but vaccinated) cats already. 
  We are very torn between putting our cats at risk and saving Scooter. 
  So after a very difficult day of 
  unsuccessfully trying to find a home for Scooter, weve decided to keep 
  him. All the web sites say you 
  have to keep the pos cats isolated from the neg, but 
  I dont see how I can do that without locking Scooter in a room for the rest 
  of his life. Montana and Karma 
  are indoor/outdoor cats (we have a door with magnetic-activated lock). We can turn the door around so Scooter 
  cant get out but ours can still come and go as they please but were going to 
  give Scooter the run of the house, which isnt a big house by todays 
  standards. I dont know if we can 
  keep their food separate  Montana is older and underweight so I dont want to 
  take away the gravity feed bowl and limit his eating. Also, 
  Montana and Karma 
  rarely use the litter pan, as they prefer the great outdoors, but in rainy or 
  cold weather they use it. Scooter 
  will have to use it, as hes got to stay indoors for the rest of his 
  life. From what Ive read online, 
  these arent the main ways that the virus is transmitted. I know grooming is a big one, but we 
  dont have a clear picture of whether they will eventually become friendly 
  enough for that (no chance of it just yet). So my question is  what has been the 
  experience of others in similar situations, and do you have any good advice 
  for a couple of scared cat lovers? 
  Something I might have missed on the other web sites that will help me 
  keep all three cats happy and healthy as possible? 
  Montana is about 
  12 years, Karma maybe 8, and Scooter probably 6 months. (Thanks everyone! Ive enjoyed reading your posts.) 
  -peggy


Re: morbid question about finding autopsy studies

2006-09-20 Thread TenHouseCats

hm--i know that you can get it done through our vet school, but
once frozen, they can't do any analysis.

On 9/20/06, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Did you find an answer to this one Michele?  If not I can ask my vet about
it.  She does forensics for abuse cases and would probably know how to go
about it.
t


tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Try your local Veternary college.  Often they will do that sort of thing and
incorporated it into a teaching exercise.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Someone from the shelter I used to work with asked me to help her find a
place that can do a toxicity study on a deceased cat, which they have
frozen.  They think there was veterinary malpractice (the cat died in
surgery, after several others did as well with the same new vet) and do not
know where to get this kind of study. Apparently they brought the cat to
Tufts, a university vet hospital, and they did a necropsy but no tox
analysis.

any thoughts?

thanks,
michelle

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Re: Hello / intro / new subscriber

2006-09-20 Thread Watsdadillyo



Hi welcome to the group! I am pretty new too. Thanks for sharing your 
"babies" with us. I have one cat Crackers. He is 5 and is FELV Pos. But is very 
healthy right now. This group is GREAT and will help you out a lot.:) Hope all 
your babes are doing good.
Kayte and Crackers


Re: Dharma - licking glass

2006-09-20 Thread Watsdadillyo



Wow! That is pretty interesting. I never heard of licking glass before. I 
can't wait to hear what it means. Hope Dharma is doing great.
Kayte


Re: ot - prayers please

2006-09-20 Thread Marylyn



Or some KFC or other fried chicken 
bites.






 
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creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  catatonya 
  
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 8:21 
  PM
  Subject: Re: ot - prayers please
  
  Take some fancy feast to her and maybe she'll let you catch 
  her. I hope she comes back to see you.
  tBarb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  
Belinda,
Could Little Lady be added to the prayer list? When I got home 
from class last night there was a pretty little white and buff kitty sitting 
in the grassy median between the parking lot sections and she wouldn't let 
me near her, but she sat about 20' away and we had a conversation for 
several minutes - I can do meows and chirps very well as Bandit and I have 
little talks too. She was very attentive when I chirped, but she was 
clearly not letting me near her - she walked away with a pronounced limp and 
I was sad all night - but we can only do what they let us do, if that 
much 
Thanks a bunchBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito 
Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. 
Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - 
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Re: Crackers Pix

2006-09-20 Thread LVega50899



What a beautiful cat!


Re: new to FeLV

2006-09-20 Thread kandbz_ mom
Hello!I was in your position not too long ago. I adopted a beautiful siamese kitten who ended up testing postive for FeLV. The vet wanted me to euthanize her, but I couldn't. I have two other cats at home who are negative. As soon as I found out Angel was pos. I had them all eat and drink from seperate bowls. Angel ended up getting a cancerous tumor at only 5 mos. of age and she died last month. Although she was only with us for a short time, I don't regret anything about letting her have the run of the house. She was happy because she was able to be outwith us. My other two cats are still fine and have not become positive. I'm sorry I can't be of much help, but I wanted to share with you a situation where mixing a positive with negatives turned out fine. Good luck to youyou have made the right choice by not letting
 the vet PTS. KarenPeggy Ankney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi
 All,I too am a new subscriber looking for advice. I’ve learned much about this virus in the past 12 hours because the stray cat (Scooter) that my husband and I are in the process of adopting (well, he’s adopted us really) is FeLV+. The vet called me today after I dropped him off for neutering and shots to tell me the test was positive (she repeated the test to confirm) and recommended Scooter be PTS. We can’t do that – but we have two negative (but vaccinated) cats already. We are very
 torn between putting our cats at risk and saving Scooter. So after a very difficult day of unsuccessfully trying to find a home for Scooter, we’ve decided to keep him. All the web sites say you have to keep the pos cats isolated from the neg, but I don’t see how I can do that without locking Scooter in a room for the rest of his life. Montana and Karma are indoor/outdoor cats (we have a door with magnetic-activated lock). We can
 turn the door around so Scooter can’t get out but ours can still come and go as they please but we’re going to give Scooter the run of the house, which isn’t a big house by today’s standards. I don’t know if we can keep their food separate – Montana is older and underweight so I don’t want to take away the gravity feed bowl and limit his eating. Also, Montana and Karma rarely use the litter pan, as they prefer the great outdoors, but in rainy or cold weather they use it. Scooter will have to use it, as he’s got to stay indoors for the rest of his life. From what I’ve read
 online, these aren’t the main ways that the virus is transmitted. I know grooming is a big one, but we don’t’ have a clear picture of whether they will eventually become friendly enough for that (no chance of it just yet). So my question is – what has been the experience of others in similar situations, and do you have any good advice for a couple of scared cat lovers? Something I might have missed on the other web sites that will help me keep all three cats happy and healthy as possible? Montana is about 12 years, Karma maybe 8, and Scooter probably 6 months. (Thanks everyone! I’ve enjoyed reading your posts.) -peggy 
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