Re: OT: Happy Thanksgiving guys
I count you all in my blessings too.
Gina, Tigger, Taylor, Bob and Pippin
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Thank you - and a Happy Thanksgiving to you. I am very blessed indeed to
have found this group.
much love to all from elizabeth, phelix, antonio, tiffany, lexie, shakiti,
othello, tori, and mama kitty
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Re: OT: my feral calico mama Angelica is back!!
I'm very happy Angelica is back! Gina Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone, I just wanted to tell you that I just saw my missing calico mama, angelica waiting for me on my porch after talking to AC, and havent seen her for the past 4 days, I was so convninced that she was not with us anymore after my neighbor poisoning cats in my neighborhood -- cannot express how relieved and glad to see her during this despair time.. moments like this gives me a reason why I do what I do for my ferals..thank you for all your prayers Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.
Re: OT: Happy Thanksgiving guys
euw. i've been up late reading...heard a commotion in the den a bit ago but i figure the kids are just playing. had to get up to get a drink of water and saw four cats sitting around staring at othello who was busy chomping away at something. got my water and thought -- what IS that he is chewing on? i know i heard a crunch. hellloit's a mouse :-/ they just can't understand why i would get rid of the source of their delight and entertainmenttheir early thanksgiving snack! oh well...i've never had to worry too much about mice in this house even if there is a huge field behind the house. elizabeth In a message dated 11/23/06 01:53:49 Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I count you all in my blessings too. Gina, Tigger, Taylor, Bob and Pippin ETrent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you - and a Happy Thanksgiving to you. I am very blessed indeed to have found this group. much love to all from elizabeth, phelix, antonio, tiffany, lexie, shakiti, othello, tori, and mama kitty In a message dated 11/22/06 18:14:06 Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey guys, I just wanted to wish everyone a very Happy Thanksgiving, and let all of you know that I give thanks for having you in my life. You are all a blessing, not to mention collectively, an enormous wealth of knowledge. May you be blessed for your selflessness and kindness. :) Wendy Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited Visit my Tigger Tales site! Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.
new diagnosis
Hi, I just joined this list today, Thanksgiving Day. Yesterday my kitty was diagnosed with feline leukemia, she is just barely one year old and I have had her less than a year (by a few weeks). She has not been her usual self, not getting into everything, not eating, lethargic, breathing labored. Vet said the test results were strong and came back very quickly (a blue response in a little white tester almost like a home pregnancy test instrument), they administered fluids to her for dehydration and the spot where they inserted the needle bled alot, did not coagulate very well. Vet is recommending euthanasia and soon (tomorrow), she has responded today to probably the shot he gave her, she has gone to the bathroom and this am drank a small amount of catsmilk from Wisker's, licked some cat food off my fingers but not much. I am thinking of trying to get a second opinion tomorrow. I need some guidance here so I joined this list. Thanks for any help anyone can provide. Dianne
Re: new diagnosis
Did the vet recommend euthanization based on her diagnosis alone? If so I would find another vet. No matter what I would get a second opinion. There are too many vets out there who don't understand this disease. If no one out there has a recommendation for a vet in your area, I would try one who is a member of the AAFP, they seem to be more up on things. http://www.aafponline.org/ Do you know what the shot was, or did they just give her fluids? Hugs to you and what a way to spend your Thanksgiving - sorry:( FELV is treatable and I would take the eating and drinking and litterbox using as a good sign...but there are a lot of others more knowledgeable than me on this list. I just wanted you to not feel alone. On 11/23/06, Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just joined this list today, Thanksgiving Day. Yesterday my kitty was diagnosed with feline leukemia, she is just barely one year old and I have had her less than a year (by a few weeks). She has not been her usual self, not getting into everything, not eating, lethargic, breathing labored. Vet said the test results were strong and came back very quickly (a blue response in a little white tester almost like a home pregnancy test instrument), they administered fluids to her for dehydration and the spot where they inserted the needle bled alot, did not coagulate very well. Vet is recommending euthanasia and soon (tomorrow), she has responded today to probably the shot he gave her, she has gone to the bathroom and this am drank a small amount of catsmilk from Wisker's, licked some cat food off my fingers but not much. I am thinking of trying to get a second opinion tomorrow. I need some guidance here so I joined this list. Thanks for any help anyone can provide. Dianne -- Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: new diagnosis
Dianne, You have come to the right place. Please do not euthanize ! Feline Leukemia is not always a immediate death sentence. Get her on some strong immune system boosters excellent quality cat food and interferon and she could live a very long happy life. You find this list supportive and very informative, in fact they often know more about felv than most vets. Hang in there and we will all send strong healing prayers to your fur kid. What is her name? Karen
Re: new diagnosis
Dianne, First of all -- welcome! You won't find a nicer, smarter group of people anywhere. We're glad you are here! Second - take a deep breath. FeVL+ is not always a death sentence. Euthanasia is standard operating procedures in some vet circles. Same thing happened to me last May when I took Mama Kitty in to the vet. She had lost a lot of weight and was so scary thin. She was extremely lethargic and not eating. Vet said she tested positive for FeVL and was very anemic and recommended putting her to sleep. I got big tears in my eyes and said - well I'm just not ready to say goodbye. He put Mama Kitty on antibiotics and gave her a steroid shot and put her on pet tinic (which she despises, but that's another story) That's when I became a google fiend and found this group. I read everything I could find and I decided to try Acemannan. My vet had never heard of it but said he would be willing to try it. He found out the protocols and procedures and I supplied him with a distributor. He got it within two days. It's a bit expensive..it was $300 for 5 shots - given once a week in the tummy...but to us, it was worth every penny. Within a few days, Mama Kitty began to get her appetite back. She visibly felt better. By the time she had her second and third shots - her coat was looking better and she was beginning to gain weight. By the fifth shot - she was playing with her toys! She has continued to improve and has for all practical purposes reverted to kittenhood. My neighbors have commented on the remarkable difference. I don't want to give you false hope. FeVL is an evil disease. Most of the cats who perish from it do so not because of the feline leukemia itself, but because their immune system is so weakened, they are more prone to infection and other diseases. There ARE treatments available, however, and people on this list have tried a number of things with success. Some cats live many, many years after testing positive. Most important is to start your baby on a good healthy diet and keep her stress-free...give her lots of love and remember that every day is precious. Third, love and prayers to you and your baby. What's kitty's name? How old is he/she? elizabeth In a message dated 11/23/06 08:32:02 Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I just joined this list today, Thanksgiving Day. Yesterday my kitty was diagnosed with feline leukemia, she is just barely one year old and I have had her less than a year (by a few weeks). She has not been her usual self, not getting into everything, not eating, lethargic, breathing labored. Vet said the test results were strong and came back very quickly (a blue response in a little white tester almost like a home pregnancy test instrument), they administered fluids to her for dehydration and the spot where they inserted the needle bled alot, did not coagulate very well. Vet is recommending euthanasia and soon (tomorrow), she has responded today to probably the shot he gave her, she has gone to the bathroom and this am drank a small amount of catsmilk from Wisker's, licked some cat food off my fingers but not much. I am thinking of trying to get a second opinion tomorrow. I need some guidance here so I joined this list. Thanks for any help anyone can provide. Dianne
Re: new diagnosis
It sounds like she is doing a lot better then if she is able to eat so much! I like the AAFP vets because they are supposed to abide by the following guidelines, per the information on that site: All cats should be tested for infection with feline leukemia virus (FeLV) and feline immunodeficiency virus (FIV). ■ Cats infected with FeLV or FIV may live for many years. A decision for euthanasia should never be made solely on the basis of whether or not a cat is infected. ■ A confirmed positive test result should be considered only an indication of retrovirus infection, not clinical disease. Diseases in cats infected with FeLV or FIV may not necessarily be a result of retrovirus infection. ■ No test is 100% accurate at all times and under all conditions. Therefore, all test results should be interpreted in light of the patient's health and prior likelihood of infection. I know it would not do any good to tell you not to worry at all, but please try to relax a little. You don't need to make a decision right away. On 11/23/06, Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you so much Kelley! I was feeling very alone. My friend and I were talking this morning and she is going to go with me tomorrow (hopefully we can get into oncologist)I saw the AAFP list and there are 3 in the area so maybe if not the oncologist one of them can see us. He gave her a steroid shot of the same type they give when animal is in shock. They gave her fluids and sent her home with lasix. She just ate some white chicken (canned)...and more of the cat milk. Got a crushed up pill in her. Dianne - Original Message - *From:* Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Thursday, November 23, 2006 9:43 AM *Subject:* Re: new diagnosis Did the vet recommend euthanization based on her diagnosis alone? If so I would find another vet. No matter what I would get a second opinion. There are too many vets out there who don't understand this disease. If no one out there has a recommendation for a vet in your area, I would try one who is a member of the AAFP, they seem to be more up on things. http://www.aafponline.org/ Do you know what the shot was, or did they just give her fluids? Hugs to you and what a way to spend your Thanksgiving - sorry:( FELV is treatable and I would take the eating and drinking and litterbox using as a good sign...but there are a lot of others more knowledgeable than me on this list. I just wanted you to not feel alone. On 11/23/06, Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just joined this list today, Thanksgiving Day. Yesterday my kitty was diagnosed with feline leukemia, she is just barely one year old and I have had her less than a year (by a few weeks). She has not been her usual self, not getting into everything, not eating, lethargic, breathing labored. Vet said the test results were strong and came back very quickly (a blue response in a little white tester almost like a home pregnancy test instrument), they administered fluids to her for dehydration and the spot where they inserted the needle bled alot, did not coagulate very well. Vet is recommending euthanasia and soon (tomorrow), she has responded today to probably the shot he gave her, she has gone to the bathroom and this am drank a small amount of catsmilk from Wisker's, licked some cat food off my fingers but not much. I am thinking of trying to get a second opinion tomorrow. I need some guidance here so I joined this list. Thanks for any help anyone can provide. Dianne -- Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: new diagnosis
Kitty with new diagnosis is Asia, she is a beautiful blue gray cat, she was adopted from a local rescue group last Dec., she was born the end of Sept or first of Oct.I selected Sept. 29 for her birthdate as that is also my son's birthday. So she is 14 months old and she has been with me a little less than a year. I also rescue Shih Tzu's and think this young puppy that has been in the house 2 1/2 weeks may have brought the stress on her for this initial episode. She loves the other dogs in the house, especially the ones that were here when she came home with me, she played with them and so forth, they show their love to each other by nose touching/sniffing and rubbing up against each other. She is not playing now. However, she just got up in her cat tree in her room for the first time in a few days. She did eat some from my hand and will try that again before I go to my mom's for dinner and again when I come homeI figure if I can get her to eat a little every hour or so that will help her build her strength up. What are some of the other treatments that have been successful, not only the stuff the vet should use but also supplements I can give her to boost her immune system? I have heard of the pet tinic. I got lots of tears yesterday, cried alot, but did not want to do anything then as I know that I have to process the information and do my research. So glad I did. A night's sleep helpedand talking with animal friends and family members. Dianne and Asia - Original Message - From: ETrent To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 10:57 AM Subject: Re: new diagnosis Dianne, First of all -- welcome! You won't find a nicer, smarter group of people anywhere. We're glad you are here! Second - take a deep breath. FeVL+ is not always a death sentence. Euthanasia is standard operating procedures in some vet circles. Same thing happened to me last May when I took Mama Kitty in to the vet. She had lost a lot of weight and was so scary thin. She was extremely lethargic and not eating. Vet said she tested positive for FeVL and was very anemic and recommended putting her to sleep. I got big tears in my eyes and said - well I'm just not ready to say goodbye. He put Mama Kitty on antibiotics and gave her a steroid shot and put her on pet tinic (which she despises, but that's another story) That's when I became a google fiend and found this group. I read everything I could find and I decided to try Acemannan. My vet had never heard of it but said he would be willing to try it. He found out the protocols and procedures and I supplied him with a distributor. He got it within two days. It's a bit expensive..it was $300 for 5 shots - given once a week in the tummy...but to us, it was worth every penny. Within a few days, Mama Kitty began to get her appetite back. She visibly felt better. By the time she had her second and third shots - her coat was looking better and she was beginning to gain weight. By the fifth shot - she was playing with her toys! She has continued to improve and has for all practical purposes reverted to kittenhood. My neighbors have commented on the remarkable difference. I don't want to give you false hope. FeVL is an evil disease. Most of the cats who perish from it do so not because of the feline leukemia itself, but because their immune system is so weakened, they are more prone to infection and other diseases. There ARE treatments available, however, and people on this list have tried a number of things with success. Some cats live many, many years after testing positive. Most important is to start your baby on a good healthy diet and keep her stress-free...give her lots of love and remember that every day is precious. Third, love and prayers to you and your baby. What's kitty's name? How old is he/she? elizabeth In a message dated 11/23/06 08:32:02 Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I just joined this list today, Thanksgiving Day. Yesterday my kitty was diagnosed with feline leukemia, she is just barely one year old and I have had her less than a year (by a few weeks). She has not been her usual self, not getting into everything, not eating, lethargic, breathing labored. Vet said the test results were strong and came back very quickly (a blue response in a little white tester almost like a home pregnancy test instrument), they administered fluids to her for dehydration and the spot where they inserted the needle bled alot, did not coagulate very well. Vet is recommending euthanasia and soon (tomorrow), she has responded today to probably the shot he gave her, she has gone to the bathroom and this am drank a small amount of catsmilk from Wisker's, licked some cat food off my fingers but not much. I am thinking of trying to get a second opinion tomorrow. I need some guidance
Re: new diagnosis
Diane, Definitely do not euthanize! If you can, take her to a board-certified internist, usually you can fine one at a big veterinary hospital, a vet school hospital, or a veterinary referral center. They are more skilled at diagnosis. All the feline leukemia virus means is that her immune system is compromised. It is like having HIV. FeLV, like HIV, makes someone more susceptible to other viruses, and to some cancers and blood disorders. FeLV itself is not the diagnosis of what is wrong with your cat right now, it is just the root cause of her immune system not fighting off whatever else she has. What you need to know is what is causing her symptoms right now, and treat that if it is treatable. My FeLV+ cat Lucy, who is about 5 years old at this point, got sick a few weeks ago and would not eat and was very lethargic. It turned out she had a fever, which antibiotics brought down within one day and she started eating again. The vet then gave her two Immuno-regulin shots (there are articles about this medicine on the felineleukemia.org website) and she got better from the cold. It is possible this is all that is going on for your cat. Or your cat could be anemic, from something treatable, which happens with FeLV+ cats. Someone on this list almost lost a positive to anemia several years ago and completely cured the anemia with acemannan shots. There are other treatments too. But you need to know if she is anemic in order to treat for anemia. It could be lymphoma; that would be one of the worst case scenarios, and FeLV+cats are prone to it. But they also respond well to chemo sometimes, and do not suffer from chemo the way humans do. If no chemo, steroid shots can keep them very comfortable and happy for months with lymphoma. But lymphoma is a worst case scenario. There are other, more treatable things she can have. Bottom line is that you have to find out what is causing her symptoms, and then assess treatment options. She could have something that is very treatable. To euthanize her without knowing would be insane, but unfortunately many vets react to felv this way. Michelle
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Re: new diagnosis
Hi Dianne, sorry you had to find us, but I am glad you did! Yes, you do need to find a more sympathetic vet! First off, JUST doing a FELV test is NOT really good enough to make such a drastic decision on. Your vet needs to pull a CBC (that's a full blood testing panel), or at least check her hemocrit (that's the amount of iron in the blood) and see if she's anemic. Anemia is the #1 cause of FELV+ cats feeling under the weather, and VERY OFTEN, it is totally treatable. If her hemocrit comes back below 10, you should do a blood transfusion. You should also have your vet test for Hemobartonella if she is anemic, as that is a major CURABLE cause of anemia in cats. You may also want to consider a course of Immunoregulin, and start her on oral Interferon, as an immune booster. You can find the info about those treatments on our treatment webpage. On your own, you can go ahead and start her on vitamin C supplements, and feed the VERY BEST food you can afford. Wellness, Innova, Chicken Soup, and California Natural are all very good cat food brands. The Whiskers brand cat milk is OK, but they do make BETTER liquid diets for cats, try Catsure, Formula V, Clinicare, or Rebound brands: https://secure.petag.com/products_details.asp?ItemID=1666CategoryID=2SubCategoryID=13 http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=14075N=2002+113617 http://www.allivet.com/Rebound-Feline-Liquid-Diet-p/12070.htm http://www.southernagriculture.com/southag/product.asp?dept_id=3028pf_id=PABBFKMPKIBH Your vet can also prescribe easy to digest and easy to mix with liquid canned food, called Prescription A/D. You can blend this with one of the liquid cat food diets, and syringe feed it to her using an oral syringe: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=3393Ntt=feeding%20syringeNtk=AllNtx=mode+matchallpartialNp=1N=2002Nty=1 Here's a few sites on WHY and HOW to syringe feed: http://www.assistfeed.com/FelineAnorexia.htm http://www.felinecrf.org/persuading_cat_to_eat.htm Phaewryn PLEASE SAVE WHITEY: http://ucat.us/Whitey.html Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: new diagnosis
Some members here use both Transfer Factor AND Rescue Remedy, both of which are flower essence derived products, I believe. I know many here use L-Lysine, Vitamin C, Co-enzyme-Q-10, and Pet-tinic or another vitamin/mineral supplement. I personally swear by Nutri-Cal gel, Lixo-Tinic (the HORSE version of Pet-tinic), Vitamin C, and Interferon, and I feed Innova or California Natural foods. I am now trying Emu oil... my dad swears it can cure anything, and I'm trying it for my itchy skinned cat, but the label says it's good for all kinds of things, so I'm open to suggestions. I would try the Transfer Factor or Rescue Remedy if I had a sick cat, and I'm more and more convinced by member's experiences with both Acemannan and ImmunoRegulin, members here have seen AMAZING results with both of those treatments. I'm an old member here, my FELV+ cat died way back in 2002, so I'm now blessed with no sick kitties for the time being. If I had one get sick, I would try any and/or all of those things. Phaewryn PLEASE SAVE WHITEY: http://ucat.us/Whitey.html Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: new diagnosis
Dianne, I'm sorry you had to find the list in this way, but I guess that's how we all came here. Is Asia drinking enough? My Scooter (11 months old) was dehydrated when I took him to the vet, and he wasn't eating and was also lethargic. His blood work looked good but he had a tissue mass behind one molar which made it painful to eat. We treated it with antibiotics and I made the liver shake I found on this site (do a search and you'll find the recipe) and he ate it right up. But not long afterward he became even more lethargic and cried in discomfort when he was picked up so we took him back to the vet. The vet took an x-ray and discovered his kidneys were enlarged, but she suggested we take him to a specialist for an ultrasound because she thought it might be lymphoma. Scooter also had problems urinating. Sadly, he got so bad so quickly that we didn't get a chance to get the ultrasound. As someone else mentioned, this is probably the worst case, so I don't mean to panic you but it may help to know what to look for. I'm hoping it's something simpler that can be cleared up quickly. I wish you and Asia the best! -Peggy
Re: new diagnosis
Thanks Jennifer. I will get the other cat milk right away. He gave me prescription A/Dshe won't eat it...and fights the syringe. She did eat some fine pieces of chicken today. Here is a NEW DILEMMA: I just found her paperwork from when I adopted her last Dec. 14she was tested then for feline leukemia and tested negative so now what?? I am taking this paper to the vet tomorrow (even though he will not be there, his partner will be in)and see what they say. I agree about a CBC, he was going to do that but did the Feline Leukemia Combo test first and went no further. Dianne - Original Message - From: Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 4:29 PM Subject: Re: new diagnosis Hi Dianne, sorry you had to find us, but I am glad you did! Yes, you do need to find a more sympathetic vet! First off, JUST doing a FELV test is NOT really good enough to make such a drastic decision on. Your vet needs to pull a CBC (that's a full blood testing panel), or at least check her hemocrit (that's the amount of iron in the blood) and see if she's anemic. Anemia is the #1 cause of FELV+ cats feeling under the weather, and VERY OFTEN, it is totally treatable. If her hemocrit comes back below 10, you should do a blood transfusion. You should also have your vet test for Hemobartonella if she is anemic, as that is a major CURABLE cause of anemia in cats. You may also want to consider a course of Immunoregulin, and start her on oral Interferon, as an immune booster. You can find the info about those treatments on our treatment webpage. On your own, you can go ahead and start her on vitamin C supplements, and feed the VERY BEST food you can afford. Wellness, Innova, Chicken Soup, and California Natural are all very good cat food brands. The Whiskers brand cat milk is OK, but they do make BETTER liquid diets for cats, try Catsure, Formula V, Clinicare, or Rebound brands: https://secure.petag.com/products_details.asp?ItemID=1666CategoryID=2SubCategoryID=13 http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=14075N=2002+113617 http://www.allivet.com/Rebound-Feline-Liquid-Diet-p/12070.htm http://www.southernagriculture.com/southag/product.asp?dept_id=3028pf_id=PABBFKMPKIBH Your vet can also prescribe easy to digest and easy to mix with liquid canned food, called Prescription A/D. You can blend this with one of the liquid cat food diets, and syringe feed it to her using an oral syringe: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=3393Ntt=feeding%20syringeNtk=AllNtx=mode+matchallpartialNp=1N=2002Nty=1 Here's a few sites on WHY and HOW to syringe feed: http://www.assistfeed.com/FelineAnorexia.htm http://www.felinecrf.org/persuading_cat_to_eat.htm Phaewryn PLEASE SAVE WHITEY: http://ucat.us/Whitey.html Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: OT: my feral calico mama Angelica is back!!
Hideyo, I am so glad that Angelica is back. That is wonderful news. Cindy Reasoner --- Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone, I just wanted to tell you that I just saw my missing calico mama, angelica waiting for me on my porch - after talking to AC, and haven't seen her for the past 4 days, I was so convninced that she was not with us anymore after my neighbor poisoning cats in my neighborhood -- cannot express how relieved and glad to see her during this despair time.. moments like this gives me a reason why I do what I do for my ferals..thank you for all your prayers... Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: new diagnosis
It sounds like you need to find another vet. I had to find a new one when my Smokey was diagnosed with being felv+. They were recomending euthanasia and I am so glad I didn't do it. I will give him love , a home and all the medical help I can until his time comes. Really we never really know how long we will have any of our babies. I hope your kitty starts feeling better and you find a vet that understands this disease. Cindy Reasoner --- Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you so much Kelley! I was feeling very alone. My friend and I were talking this morning and she is going to go with me tomorrow (hopefully we can get into oncologist)I saw the AAFP list and there are 3 in the area so maybe if not the oncologist one of them can see us. He gave her a steroid shot of the same type they give when animal is in shock. They gave her fluids and sent her home with lasix. She just ate some white chicken (canned)...and more of the cat milk. Got a crushed up pill in her. Dianne - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 9:43 AM Subject: Re: new diagnosis Did the vet recommend euthanization based on her diagnosis alone? If so I would find another vet. No matter what I would get a second opinion. There are too many vets out there who don't understand this disease. If no one out there has a recommendation for a vet in your area, I would try one who is a member of the AAFP, they seem to be more up on things. http://www.aafponline.org/ Do you know what the shot was, or did they just give her fluids? Hugs to you and what a way to spend your Thanksgiving - sorry:( FELV is treatable and I would take the eating and drinking and litterbox using as a good sign...but there are a lot of others more knowledgeable than me on this list. I just wanted you to not feel alone. On 11/23/06, Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just joined this list today, Thanksgiving Day. Yesterday my kitty was diagnosed with feline leukemia, she is just barely one year old and I have had her less than a year (by a few weeks). She has not been her usual self, not getting into everything, not eating, lethargic, breathing labored. Vet said the test results were strong and came back very quickly (a blue response in a little white tester almost like a home pregnancy test instrument), they administered fluids to her for dehydration and the spot where they inserted the needle bled alot, did not coagulate very well. Vet is recommending euthanasia and soon (tomorrow), she has responded today to probably the shot he gave her, she has gone to the bathroom and this am drank a small amount of catsmilk from Wisker's, licked some cat food off my fingers but not much. I am thinking of trying to get a second opinion tomorrow. I need some guidance here so I joined this list. Thanks for any help anyone can provide. Dianne -- Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
Re: Evander Please add him to the CLS
I'm so sorry Sherry. t Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am so sad to say that we lost our sweet Evander today.He was a very unique boy. :( Thank you for your prayers. Sherry - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.
Re: new diagnosis
actually, hematocrit has to do with the concentration of the blood cells, I believe, not the iron levels per se. Michelle In a message dated 11/23/2006 4:50:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hemocrit (that's the amount of iron in the blood) and see if she's anemic.
Hi again and Question
Hello everyone! I'm so sorry I've been out of touch for so long!!! I got behind in emails and never was able to get caught up...life has been so insane!!! I hate to even email when I haven't been able to read everyone's posts the last couple months. I send my love and thoughts to any who have lost furbabies and positive thoughts and prayers to any sick kitties. Slinky was neutered about 3 weeks ago and everything went well. They also retested him...and it was positive. :( I'm considering taking him to a holistic vet when I can afford it (which may be a while)...and also thinking about switching him to a raw diet as he doesn't seem terribly interested in his canned food lately. My question is about a couple things I've noticed lately. About a week or so ago, I came home and found vomit at the top of the stairs into my apartment. At least I think it was vomit...it looked like his canned food only slightly more watery. If I didn't know better, I'd have thought he dragged his dish over there and spilled it! lol But he seemed fine the rest of the night and I haven't seen any problems since. Now tonight, I was lying in bed and heard a strange noise in the living room...which turned out to be Slinky having a sneezing fit. He must've sneezed at least 20 times. Then it seemed to go away. But then a few minutes later I heard him hacking in the living room. I went in there, and again, he seems to be fine now. He has been acting a bit like 'psycho kitty lately...running around a lot, acting a bit ornery, and pouncing on me to wake me up at 6:30 every morning. But other than that he's been just fine. So far, in the last 15 minutes or so...no more sneezing or coughing. But we'll see how he does through the night. Should I be concerned? Do I need to take him in tomorrow? Or do you think he'll be okay and he just got into something or something? Any thoughts or advice would be most appreciated. I considered trying to take his temp, but I don't think he'd let me...though I'd obviously force him if it was really necessary. Please send positive thoughts! Thanks...and thanks again for this great group...i'll try to stay more on top of the emails! Love to all of you and your babies. MJ - Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited.
To Kelley: Re: Sick cat, ideas?
Kelley, I am in agreement with Phaewryn. I adopted a kitten that had it this past February, and we went through three different medicines, including the Viroptic and antibiotics, for her corneal ulcer and nothing worked until I tried the L-lysine (no additives; one additive can cause blood problems in cats). I couldn't believe that the lysine made the ulcer go away after all that time and meds. :) Wendy Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
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Hi Dianne, Welcome to the FeLV group, and although I'm sorry Asia has tested positive for FeLV, you have found the best place to be while dealing with this unpredictable disease. I was surprised to read that Asia tested negative for FeLV last December. It's possible it was a false negative; they do happen. Has Asia been exposed to other cats since this test? As others have said, FeLV is not a death sentence. I like the way Phaewryn explained that FeLV isn't what's actually making kitty sick; it's what's stemming from her weakened immune system that needs to be addressed. It could be something simple like a cold; it could be anemia, which sometimes is treatable, but other times not; it could be lymphoma. No matter what it is, it's a VERY good sign that Asia is responding to the treatment she's been given so far and eating a little, drinking, and eliminating. Make sure Asia gets bloodwork done tomorrow, especially the red blood cell count, before you make any decisions. It might be Monday before you can get a full panel back, but they can do the RBC count on the spot, so get that done asap. If Asia is found to be anemic, which causes lethargy, make sure the vet gives her a (3 week I think) course of doxycycline, which is used to treat hemobartanella, a blood parasite. Hemobartanella is extremely hard to see on a test, so often times is missed and not treated, and left untreated, kitty is terminal. A course of the doxy will not hurt your baby but might save her as it has countless others from anemia. A great diet, supplements like Vitamin C and L-lysine (without additives, one of which causes blood issues in cats), and a stress-free environment are key to keeping the FeLV from affecting Asia's immune system. I have my kitties on Innova Evo food, dry and wet. It's a great food in my opinion. A lot of people here use it. No matter what, make sure you are getting food into Asia. Cats are not like other animals or people, who can go without food for two weeks or longer and still be alive. Cats, if they don't eat, get what is called Feline Lipidosis (fatty liver disease) and it is terminal if not treated. The fatter the cat, the quicker it can set in. Make sure you are getting food into her, even if you have to fight her. The A/D is GREAT stuff. I water it down some and make it creamy before syringe feeding. It has lots of calories. Keep fighting the good fight with the A/D. I hope the rest of your week gets better Dianne. I know it can be hard, the not knowing, but Asia will pick up on your panic and/or fear, so try to stay calm until you know what you're dealing with. Please keep us posted as to what happens tomorrow with the vet you choose for the second opinion. I would not waste any more money with the one who wanted to pts. Find one who is more up to date on FeLV. I called around and spoke with different vets to figure out who would work with me before I spent money on an office visit. Michelle's suggestion of an internist is a great idea. :) Wendy Dallas, TX P.S. I saw from your email addy that you're in Florida. My dad went to Fort Myers H.S. and they currently live in Naples. Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: Hi again and Question
Marissa, I would wait and see how Slinky is doing in the morning. I have kitties that sneeze for no reason, and they get hairballs that make them throw up, neither of which would need a vet visit. I would make sure Slinky is on L-Lysine though to keep his immune system boosted. A cold in an FeLV+ kitty could turn serious, so keep an eye on him tomorrow. If there are no vets available in your area on Saturday, and he's sneezing in the morning, you might want to take him in so that you aren't caught with a sick kitty all weekend and no vet. :) Wendy Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
