Re: Please add to CLS -- Alberta
I'm so sorry Kerry. My heart goes out to you. Gina Kerry Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Belinda, I lost my 15 yr old Alberta early Friday morning..She is a negative kitty. Please add her to the CLS. Thanks so much, Kerry, Angel Bandy, Inky and Angel Alberta __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Visit my Tigger Tales site! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Marley
I am very happy to hear the news about Marley! Gina catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good news! I hope Marley continues to improve. t Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you so much Nina and all who had sweet Marley,he is back at the sanctuary and feeling much like himself.He looks up with me with those beautiful yellow eyes and just melts my heart.He loves to be held just like a baby.I am going to send Dr. Jen a thank you for making him feel better.I hope everyone hasa wonderful new year,be safe and take care. Sherry Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aww Sherry, I'm so sorry. Marley is in my thoughts and prayers for a quick turn around. Please don't beat yourself up for not being more on top of his aliments. Sometimes it's just impossible to know an off day from the onset of something serious, even when they live in the same house as we do. You can make yourself crazy with this kind of what if. Holding you both in my heart, Nina Sherry DeHaan wrote: Hi all,I know I haven't posted in a while,which for me would be a good thing cause it is usually bad news.Well I just need to ask all of you to send out prayers for beautiful sweet (crying while writing this)marley.He is having a bad time right now and is getting fluids and is at Dr. Jens house.Well I feel really bad cause I had noticed on Monday that he was not quite himself and didn't let Jen know.Sometimes these guys have off days and are fine the next.Well last night when I got there he was the first one that I looked for to check on him and he just was not right.We had to cut packed poo off his butt and he was just a mess.I would feel just aweful if we lost him because I didn't notify her sooner.If I was there everyday I definitly would have been on top of it.I guess I should have called to check on him.So please add him to your prayers he is one of my most fav boys at Sids.He has long black silky hair and is the most gentle loving babies ever.Thank you all so much.Sorry for rambling Sherry __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Visit my Tigger Tales site! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: ot: Antonio
Hi Elizabeth, I just logged on and saw your thread about Antonio. Poor baby! I hope he's doing better today. It's such a shame that you had a hard time at the vet. It's never easy to deal with inconsideration, but when your baby is in pain and danger it's almost impossible to take. I agree that you should speak to your vet about it. The staff sounds insensitive enough to not realize just how inappropriate their behavior is. Have you been doing research on special dietary requirements for crystals? I feed my IBD girl a homemade diet that has kept her feeling good and off of meds for the most part for over a year now. It is extra trouble, but so very worth it. Good for you for not picking up a cigarette during all of this. Are you still smoke free? Give Antonio a hug from me and let us know how he's doing, Nina elizabeth trent wrote: Poor Antonio - I was up much of the night with himhe slept by my pillow with my arm around him. He has some blood in his urine and possibly a kidney stoneplus, his glands need to be expressed so the poor boy just feels rotten. I made them promise me at the vet's they would give him some demerol. He's lost a pound too since he's been on the light formula...that's very good news. I really hated leaving him at the vet's this morning but they told me I really needed to...they will do x-rays and they may have to extract some urine. I'm just worried sick about him. Please, if you would...send prayers...good thoughts...or whatever is your style for the dear boy. We very much appreciate it. Thank you, elizabeth
RE: Antonio
Brilliantly put Phaewryn. I can practically see my own blood pressure rise whenever healthcare is mentioned in US. No one has to worry about how they pay in UK, for everyone who's employed contributes towards the universal health kitty. Whether you're employed or not, you get the health care you need at no extra cost--healthcare is not tied to job. The only charge is for prescription drugs. And for elderly or disabled folks there's a ceiling of $80 a year to pay. After that the drugs are free. Kerry M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 11:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Antonio A well know chiropractor in this area (human chiropractor) charges only $60 for x-rays. He owns his own machine in his office. His office visits are only $15 (about a dollar a minute). Prices in health care are high because pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies have driven up the costs of the drugs, and insurance companies are willing to pay inflated fees to health care providers. Because insurance covers almost everything, the prices have gone up so much no REAL person could not afford to get healthcare on their own. Economy is driven by people's willingness to pay for the things they want. The more people want something, the more it costs. Supply and demand. When you factor in a way for someone ELSE to pay the bills, then you can offer MORE and MORE money for the service. Insurance has caused our medical system to reach an unsustainable point. The price shifts we are seeing in the veterinary field are in direct relation to the prices in the human medical field. Because lots of the drugs we use in veterinary medicine come from the same drug companies and from the same pharmacies as the human drugs, we have to pay the highly inflated price. Because the same x-ray machines and the same ultra-sound machines used in vet hospitals are the ones also used by human hospitals and doctor's offices, we pay the inflated fees for them. INSURANCE has made health care unaffordable, for everyone, humans and animals both. Just to clarify my point, say you go to the grocery store and buy a banana. You pay maybe .20 cents. Now, out comes a new insurance, called grocery insurance. You pay a flat fee of $50 a month, and you can get all the groceries you want with a small co-pay (this might work in today's society because let's face it, how many Americans buy food at a grocery store... insurance companies are banking on the fact that we eat more fast food than home cooked, LOL! Health insurance companies are banking on more people not needing the services than needing them, that's how they make money). So, you pay your grocery insurance bill, and go to the store, You get your banana. The grocery store then bills your insurance company for the banana. Because the grocery store has to file paperwork, they have to increase the cost of the banana, plus a small processing and paperwork fee, of course. Now bananas cost .70 cents each. Now do this a hundred times... and you get the picture of why health care is so expensive. Someone who doesn't have grocery insurance can no longer afford bananas! Not exactly the same, but the same concept. Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: ot: Antonio
Elizabeth, I hope Antonio is feeling better today. My baby Winston has a problem with crystals and he is on Science Hill XD can and so far has been doing good with it. You and Antonio are in my prayers. Cindy --- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Elizabeth, I just logged on and saw your thread about Antonio. Poor baby! I hope he's doing better today. It's such a shame that you had a hard time at the vet. It's never easy to deal with inconsideration, but when your baby is in pain and danger it's almost impossible to take. I agree that you should speak to your vet about it. The staff sounds insensitive enough to not realize just how inappropriate their behavior is. Have you been doing research on special dietary requirements for crystals? I feed my IBD girl a homemade diet that has kept her feeling good and off of meds for the most part for over a year now. It is extra trouble, but so very worth it. Good for you for not picking up a cigarette during all of this. Are you still smoke free? Give Antonio a hug from me and let us know how he's doing, Nina elizabeth trent wrote: Poor Antonio - I was up much of the night with himhe slept by my pillow with my arm around him. He has some blood in his urine and possibly a kidney stoneplus, his glands need to be expressed so the poor boy just feels rotten. I made them promise me at the vet's they would give him some demerol. He's lost a pound too since he's been on the light formula...that's very good news. I really hated leaving him at the vet's this morning but they told me I really needed to...they will do x-rays and they may have to extract some urine. I'm just worried sick about him. Please, if you would...send prayers...good thoughts...or whatever is your style for the dear boy. We very much appreciate it. Thank you, elizabeth __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Thanks Marylyn! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat Use the spray where he is peeing. I haven't used Feliway for that purpose (only for reducing fear) but it is supposed to work. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:33 AM Subject: RE: OT - Help, aggressive cat Re Feliway, agree, I don't know if mine are doing any good or not--Mickey is still prone to peeing on sofa when he mixes with my tame cats--but I'm continuing to use as manufacturer recommends 90 days to see change of behavior. FYI, however, for those who do use Feliway--my local Petsmart matches the price of any internet price. The internet price was $28 for plug-in (bad enough I know); Petsmart store price $43!!. So I guess I did feel good about saving $15 per plug in. Maybe I'll start using the spray more--I have At-Ease, which is cheaper (thanks for the tip Nina!). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat Finding her a home of her own in the future may be a really good thing. Right now, lose on top of lose on top of lose it would be so hard on her. I don't care for the plugins at all. Others like them. I can control what the spray is on and not on. And it has just worked better for me. Someone on the list mentioned a knock off that works as well as Feliway. Some of the super chains like Meijer's has it (at a lot lower cost than vets etc). I think the last I bought was about $15 a bottle. Don't even ask what the first bottle cost. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:34 AM Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat Hi Marylyn, I just think that a lot of cats would want their own people, rather than being in my noisy, chaotic house where it is hard for a kitty to get some room to herself, and none of them really get enough attention (in my opinion). But that may not be what she wants. It is difficult for me to tell yet. I will get some Feliway spray next payday. What do you think of the plugins? Are they also usefull, or not? On 1/3/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't even think about adopting her out, at least for a long time. Can you imagine all the things that are going thru her mind Try putting feliway spray on your hand when you want to pet her. Honestly, it helped so much with the Royal Princess Kitty Katt and with several ferals. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:29 AM Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat She's MUCH better as of last night. Ate a whole bowl of food, and let me come very close to touching
RE: Antonio
Yeah! Wish we all lived near each other! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 6:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Antonio You're spoiled ;-) I'm very glad you have one who comes by...it just seems impossible to properly communicate in the office environment...even when I go with a typed list of questions. I can see right now -- next time I need to raise a big stink -- you're going with me LOL You and a bunch of others from this list :0) elizabeth On 1/8/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think that one of the reasons that i love my housecall vet is that i don't have to deal with incompetent office staff members i learned years ago, with human docs, that very often the doc has no clue what goes on up front if they aren't told, so now i do i have raised big stinks, and gotten folks quite hissed at me--at both vets and human docs, but WE are the customers, after all. so there! (and i haven't even quit smoking yet!) On 1/8/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, Kerry. ***RANT ALERT (from a crazy nicotine addict in withdrawel)*** I've always been very happy with my vet's officebut I came very close to opening up a can of [EMAIL PROTECTED] a bit ago. Those slap-happy receptionist people are USELESS. If I had not asked a stream of questions I would have left there not knowing a d*mn thing about his condition or how serious it is. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] technician brought poor 22lb Antonio out ON HIS BACK (he NEVER likes to be carried that way)...and he was in SO much pain. He just peed everywhere, bless his little heart. He was screaming. This they did before I even had time to check out or talk to the vet or do anything. Once they finally put him down and let me hold him - he was a perfect angel and didn't even pee on my silk shirt. He loves his mommy. Then they forgot to give me the medicine he needs so I had to go back and get it. They wouldn't have given me the special food if I had not said -- doesn't he need some special prescription food too? The whole time they are just as slaphappy as they can be yapping up a storm about how somebody did their hair or how cute some guy is or who did their nails. Little do they know just how close they were to a big can opening. I did my best to be gracious - but I am telling you - I STILL feel like going back down there! That's my BABY! It's serious because there are so many crystals in his urine that he could have a complete blockage at any timeso I have to watch him carefully and make sure he only eats HIS food and nobody else eats his food. Maybe it's just the 8 days without nicotine but I honestly wanted to shake all of them and just pop their heads together. Plus, it didn't help that my regular vet wasn't there. The one who was there is very competent...but refused to give Antonio anything for pain saying that the anti-inflammatory was enough for his pain. I hope he gets this same condition and only gets a steriod shot. *** END RANT ALERT *** Sorry -- it's going to take a few minutes before I can be nice again. I promise, I'll try very hard. elizabeth On 1/8/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending positive vibes for your little Antonio--what a great and noble name!-- to start to feel better now he's had the steroid and antibiotics. hugs Kerryx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Antonio Thank you, Phaewryn. I just talked to the vet. Antonio has a lot of struvite crystals in his urine...and a lot of red and white blood cells as well. No blockage - thank goodness -- but I need to be on the lookout for that. They gave him a steroid for the inflammation and a shot of antibiotics -- I think we'll be doing antibiotics for at least 14 days. Wants me to change his diet to prescription c/dbut it bothers me that the 3rd ingredient in this catfood is corn gluten meal. Anyway - it's going to take some logistical ingenuity to
RE: Bandit
Sending lots of healing vibes to Bandit, Lynette. Sounds like he's on the road to recovery already. Wonderful that you can be home with him. I'm sure that in itself will make the little sweetheart heal faster. hugs, Kerryxx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 9:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Bandit Bandit is 3.5 years, 15 pounds, and neg/neg. He's healthy, but overweight. Saturday night we came home, dished out the nightly feeding to eight cats, and when we opened the door to where he and his brother eat, found him lying on the bathmat. He wouldn't get up, and when stood up (very gently, my hands by him so he woudln't fall), wouldn't walk. Well, he tried a little but seemed to be in such pain that we quickly put him on the warm waterbed, which the cats all find a comfort zone. When I felt him, it felt like heat was radiating from his left rear knee, and possibly from his front left paw. He was extremely lethargic. However he did respond with affection to the attention he was getting. He did *not* feel hot. We thought perhaps he'd fallen off the cat tree in his sleep (top perch is about 8 feet high, he has fallen off of much shorter places in his sleep). So (it being midnight), we locked him in our bedroom with us and all the amenities. He slept snuggled up to me all night, which he never gets to do these days (we have to lock them out with the kittens here or there's no sleep to be had). The next day he seemed much less lethargic, and more like he'd hurt his leg. He could walk on it some, but clearly experienced discomfort. We opted to wait until Monday, when he could go see his regular vet, where my partner works (yes, there are financial reasons here). So we went today, and found out his temp was 103.8. The vet did a very careful exam and could find NOTHING. No pain on leg extensions; he could hyper-extend the knee a little but nothing too crazy for a cat. No bites. No nothing. The fever indicates infection, so they prescribed Clavamox and to observe him closely. He's walking better but is still not himself (nothing like following a cat around making sure he doesn't jump). He'll continue to receive the isolation/snuggle treatment and I'm again grateful I can work from home so I can keep an eye on him. What in the world? Lynette =^..^= The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be measured by the way in which its animals are treated. --Mahatma Gandhi, 1869-1948 IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Antonio
Hear hear Kelly. Well said. Kerry M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly L Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Antonio At 07:00 PM 1/8/2007, you wrote: I beg to differ. although I do agree that as of late I see a big attitude shift but I do not think it is related to wages. I think we have come not to expect dignified and competent service, .. Happened to me on the phone today dealing with a rebate, I took the extra 15 minutes ,,called back and spoke with the supervisor. I also wrote the postmaster regarding one lousy postal worker. i am in a service oriented job and each customer deserves to be treated properly. It doesn't matter what their salary is, I have been treated poorly by high paid individuals also. Vet techs are underpaid,,,so are many vets. We as consumers are the first ones to complain about walking out of the office with a 2500.00 vet bill for proper diagnostic and medical care, Vets go through as much school as an MD but are paid only a minute fraction of their worthInsurance covers our costs most of the time but we pay out of pocket for our pets. An XRAY machine costs the same whether it is used on your brother or your cat, Lab charges are the same,,, Do we want to pay 5 times the rate and hope the techs get a raise,,,not an easy situation,,, Courtesy is courtesy and should not have a dollar sign attached. kelly Lane ***RANT ALERT (from a crazy nicotine addict in withdrawel)*** I've always been very happy with my vet's officebut I came very close to opening up a can of [EMAIL PROTECTED] a bit ago. Those slap-happy receptionist people are USELESS. My partner is an (uncertified) veterinary technician for a small animal hospital. We live in big-city environs (Chicago, US) and she makes $10 US/per hour. This is not a living wage in our area. The receptionists make anywhere from $8 to $10 /hr. Consequently, to work in this field, you must: 1) have another adult willing to support you 2) be young enough your parents are still supporting you Most receptionists fall under #2, meaning they are teenagers. Who talk about hair and boys and their dates. If the clinic could pay more, they could hire a better quality person (i.e. adult; some of these children may be just fine once they grow up), at least in theory. The one little place I am familiar with, simply can't. The doctors make enough to support their families, but I've been in their homes and they are not mansions -- just simple middle class places. The owner is not making a fortune, he's making a living. Paying his employees better would impact his ability to support his family. I am not defending those employees, nor the vets who employ them. The very same sort of people have hissed me off royally too. If you are going to hire people for cheap, expect to spend that much in time, trying to keep them in line and behaving appropriately. Most vets don't bother or don't know how. Complain. It is the only thing that can change things for the better. Don't do it when you're totally hissed off and in a nicotine fit (hang in there; what you are doing is admirable and very very difficult). It might be best to write a very clear letter that the owner (find out which vet(s) own the clinic and address it to them) can read in the privacy of their office. Don't rant, don't rave. Be very clear that you did not receive professional attention from the office staff, and you expect appropriate behavior or you will be taking your eight babies someplace more professional. Especially at small clinics, people with large numbers of animals who care deeply and spend money can have a very real influence on things. (And I'm glad Antonio is home with a remedy; my own adventures at the vets in another message.) Lynette -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not
Re: Bandit
It sounds like the symptoms Kerry's Bandy was showing sometimes for months, though it was attributed to him being positive. Fever and problems with one back leg and lethargy. Michelle In a message dated 1/8/2007 10:21:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bandit is 3.5 years, 15 pounds, and neg/neg. He's healthy, but overweight. Saturday night we came home, dished out the nightly feeding to eight cats, and when we opened the door to where he and his brother eat, found him lying on the bathmat. He wouldn't get up, and when stood up (very gently, my hands by him so he woudln't fall), wouldn't walk. Well, he tried a little but seemed to be in such pain that we quickly put him on the warm waterbed, which the cats all find a comfort zone. When I felt him, it felt like heat was radiating from his left rear knee, and possibly from his front left paw. He was extremely lethargic. However he did respond with affection to the attention he was getting. He did *not* feel hot. We thought perhaps he'd fallen off the cat tree in his sleep (top perch is about 8 feet high, he has fallen off of much shorter places in his sleep). So (it being midnight), we locked him in our bedroom with us and all the amenities. He slept snuggled up to me all night, which he never gets to do these days (we have to lock them out with the kittens here or there's no sleep to be had). The next day he seemed much less lethargic, and more like he'd hurt his leg. He could walk on it some, but clearly experienced discomfort. We opted to wait until Monday, when he could go see his regular vet, where my partner works (yes, there are financial reasons here). So we went today, and found out his temp was 103.8. The vet did a very careful exam and could find NOTHING. No pain on leg extensions; he could hyper-extend the knee a little but nothing too crazy for a cat. No bites. No nothing. The fever indicates infection, so they prescribed Clavamox and to observe him closely. He's walking better but is still not himself (nothing like following a cat around making sure he doesn't jump). He'll continue to receive the isolation/snuggle treatment and I'm again grateful I can work from home so I can keep an eye on him. What in the world? Lynette =^..^=
Re: Bandit
Me too Lynette. How scary to find him like that! So, they were sure enough to not take xrays? Please let us know how he's doing, Nina MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: Sending lots of healing vibes to Bandit, Lynette. Sounds like he's on the road to recovery already. Wonderful that you can be home with him. I'm sure that in itself will make the little sweetheart heal faster. hugs, Kerryxx
Re: Bandit
was to be sure. I'd offer him two options to lay one, an ice pack under a big fluffy towel, and a heating pad under a big fluffy towel, and let him choose what fe els better for him. I do this with all my injured, sick, or recovering from surge ry cats, Great idea. and they always choose one of the two. Did your vet do a neurological exam in addition to looking for sprains and injuries? Favoring a leg but NOT expressi ng pain during manipulations points towards something neurological. Which leg is he f avoring? A rear leg? Neurological issues often start in the rear and progress forward as they worsen. Did your vet do a toe pinch test on all legs to test for a pain refle x? What about pin prinks up the inside of the thighs? Is he dragging his tail, or is it functioning normally? You can do most of these tests at home, especially sinc e your partner is a vet tech, she should know the basic neurological tests. Is he po oping ok? He did not do any of those. My partner is uncertified, and only knows what she's seen the vets at her clinic do -- and in my opinion they are not particularly competent. I will ask her if she knows how to do a neurologic exam. His tail seems normal for a sick cat. I also can no longer tell that he is limping on any particular leg. I just wonder if his fever was so high that everything hurt. I feel REALLY badly that I didn't take him to emergency. We could have checked his temp here but didn't because it seemed like a leg thing. He's definitely better but still not active. I don't know for sure if he is pooping. During the periods he has been confined he has peed but not pooped. However he's eating enthusiastically and showed no sign of gastro distress when palpated by the vet. Lynette
Re: Bandit
Me too Lynette. How scary to find him like that! So, they were sure enough to not take xrays? Please let us know how he's doing, Yep, no xrays. I'm really close to punting this vet. I already would have but it may cause problems for my partner since she works there... Lynette
Re: Bandit
If you're not happy with this vet, you should look for another one. I still haven't found a GP I'm happy with! There's no reason for it to cause trouble for your partner, (what's her name?), just don't bring your animals in there anymore. They probably won't even notice that you're not coming in with them. There's nothing wrong with seeking a second opinion (which they'll know when you have records transfered). Keep it cordial, you might have a better chance of them prescribing/recommending things over the phone than a vet that doesn't know you. Don't let yourself be held hostage for political reasons when caring for your babies. I'm happy to hear that Bandit is doing better. How long has it been since he's had a bowel movement? Now that he's eating better, he should grace you with one soon. I must have missed it, how old is he? Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me too Lynette. How scary to find him like that! So, they were sure enough to not take xrays? Please let us know how he's doing, Yep, no xrays. I'm really close to punting this vet. I already would have but it may cause problems for my partner since she works there... Lynette
WAS Re: Antonio - Now OT: Customer Service
Lynette, I don't think Phaewryn was insulted, I deal with people and companies all day and customer service as a whole is non existent and the people I deal with in growing numbers don't even know their jobs. I was in customer service for many, many years and I would have been fired (and ashamed of myself) if I acted the way or was as unknowledgable about my job as some customer service employees are today. And I'm talking about big companies Qwest for instance is someone I have to deal with on occasion and I can't believe how they always screw something up if I make the tiniest change to my phone service, I do not change anything anymore because of it. Yes too many employees don't pay enough and the way I see it, they hire a lot of younger people because they *can* pay less then. But a lot of younger people are only interested in getting paid and then party, party, party. I'm speaking from personal experience when I did have to work outside the home, I worked with one girl who almost always called in sick on Monday atleast 2 or 3 times a month, we could count on it, but she was a good employee when there and was young and didn't make as much so they put up with it. My vet clinic also hires mostly younger people and they aren't that interested in how well they do their job, some on the other hand are but with as many employees that she has it's a very few!! I can hear them in the back where they take the petrified animals talking loud, laughing, scaring terrified animals even more I'm sure, I hate it when my guys have to go back there. Bad or non existent customer service is something that bugs the heck out of me, so off my soapbox now ... -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Antonio
Hey Elizabeth, I just read your posts about Antonio-poor baby! I'm glad you now know what you are dealing with. Does the vet think the crystals will dissolve over time with the special food? I know Antonio is so glad to be home with his mommy. And kudos to you for quitting smoking! What a tough one you are!!! It's a hard habit to kick, but one you'll be glad you did over time. I smoked when I was younger, and I coughed up gross, ammonia-smelling stuff for a year after I quit. Now, I can't stand to be around smoke because of my old habit. But I feel a lot better. You go girl! :) Wendy --- elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, Kerry. ***RANT ALERT (from a crazy nicotine addict in withdrawel)*** I've always been very happy with my vet's officebut I came very close to opening up a can of [EMAIL PROTECTED] a bit ago. Those slap-happy receptionist people are USELESS. If I had not asked a stream of questions I would have left there not knowing a d*mn thing about his condition or how serious it is. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] technician brought poor 22lb Antonio out ON HIS BACK (he NEVER likes to be carried that way)...and he was in SO much pain. He just peed everywhere, bless his little heart. He was screaming. This they did before I even had time to check out or talk to the vet or do anything. Once they finally put him down and let me hold him - he was a perfect angel and didn't even pee on my silk shirt. He loves his mommy. Then they forgot to give me the medicine he needs so I had to go back and get it. They wouldn't have given me the special food if I had not said -- doesn't he need some special prescription food too? The whole time they are just as slaphappy as they can be yapping up a storm about how somebody did their hair or how cute some guy is or who did their nails. Little do they know just how close they were to a big can opening. I did my best to be gracious - but I am telling you - I STILL feel like going back down there! That's my BABY! It's serious because there are so many crystals in his urine that he could have a complete blockage at any timeso I have to watch him carefully and make sure he only eats HIS food and nobody else eats his food. Maybe it's just the 8 days without nicotine but I honestly wanted to shake all of them and just pop their heads together. Plus, it didn't help that my regular vet wasn't there. The one who was there is very competent...but refused to give Antonio anything for pain saying that the anti-inflammatory was enough for his pain. I hope he gets this same condition and only gets a steriod shot. *** END RANT ALERT *** Sorry -- it's going to take a few minutes before I can be nice again. I promise, I'll try very hard. elizabeth On 1/8/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending positive vibes for your little Antonio--what a great and noble name!-- to start to feel better now he's had the steroid and antibiotics. hugs Kerryx -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *elizabeth trent *Sent:* Monday, January 08, 2007 3:46 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: Antonio Thank you, Phaewryn. I just talked to the vet. Antonio has a lot of struvite crystals in his urine...and a lot of red and white blood cells as well. No blockage - thank goodness -- but I need to be on the lookout for that. They gave him a steroid for the inflammation and a shot of antibiotics -- I think we'll be doing antibiotics for at least 14 days. Wants me to change his diet to prescription c/dbut it bothers me that the 3rd ingredient in this catfood is corn gluten meal. Anyway - it's going to take some logistical ingenuity to figure out how to feed one cat one thing -- and seven others something else. We had recently switched to the chicken soup light formula...but the vet really does not think that is what caused it. I'm getting ready to go get the boy - just can't focus here at work without him. Dr. Jones saw him today and said that Antonio is SUCH a good kitty. and he is. elizabeth On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending healing vibes and positive energy for Antonio! Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing
Re: Antonio
My employer pays me as much as she can afford, so far none of my paychecks have bounced. I love my job, and when I walk in the door every day, I am glad to be there. I've worked lots of crummy jobs in the past, jobs that didn't use any of my skills or appreciate my talents (or my wonderfully sarcastic sense of humor). I tell you, how I feel, and how I am treated means a LOT more to me than my rate of pay. I'm probably one of the very few people blessed with a job they love though. At the end of the day (2:15pm is quitting time, as that's when my son gets out of school) I am always asking myself, Gee is it time to go home? I wish I could stay at work longer! My boss assures me that things will pick up in the spring, and I can get more hours, right now, she can only afford to pay me for 20 hours a week. I knows it's highly off topic, and should probably be discussed on the OT list, but here's the link to where I work (just don't reply about it on this list, ok, I'll cc it to the OT list too so we can move the topic there): http://www.crystalisinstitute.com Oh, speaking of that, any newbies here (as well as seasoned members), you are invited to the FELVOT list any time, just sign up and send me a note telling me who you are on this list, and I will add you. It's only open to members of this group. It's where we take over-flow OT chit-chat from this list: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/felvot/ Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight
Re: WAS Re: Antonio - Now OT: Customer Service
Wow, I am really blessed with a good vet office. All the girls know me by first name and by my voice over the phone, they are all very professional and wonderful people (but then these aren't kids, for the most part). I guess I wasn't aware it was not like that most places. I would never put up with that if I were a vet. My help would have to act like they took their jobs seriously. Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: WAS Re: Antonio - Now OT: Customer Service
My vet is like that too. I love him and everyone on his staff. He's also a good vet to boot. But I think it is hard to find a good vet with good staff, so we *are* really blessed. On 1/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, I am really blessed with a good vet office. All the girls know me by first name and by my voice over the phone, they are all very professional and wonderful people (but then these aren't kids, for the most part). I guess I wasn't aware it was not like that most places. I would never put up with that if I were a vet. My help would have to act like they took their jobs seriously. Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
RE: WAS Re: Antonio - Now OT: Customer Service
Yup - both of you are very blessed!! And I have to say I am too - my vet is very humble and very patient with me as I know I am very high maintenance -they don't charge lots of stuff that they do.. they gave me all the drugs at their cost and they do house call almost every week to my house so that my kitties are not stressed out in a car. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 2:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: WAS Re: Antonio - Now OT: Customer Service My vet is like that too. I love him and everyone on his staff. He's also a good vet to boot. But I think it is hard to find a good vet with good staff, so we *are* really blessed. On 1/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, I am really blessed with a good vet office. All the girls know me by first name and by my voice over the phone, they are all very professional and wonderful people (but then these aren't kids, for the most part). I guess I wasn't aware it was not like that most places. I would never put up with that if I were a vet. My help would have to act like they took their jobs seriously. Phaewryn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/ Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: Antonio
oh lordy. cystitis is such a pain - literally for the poor babies. One way to control who gets what is to have set meal times. Bandit gets the same food as Smoky by default. The food we use is the Royal Canin Urinary SO - it normalizes pH so it's OK for kits w/o the problems. But it is fairly high calorie. Smoky had a HORRIBLE winter last year, twice to the ER even. But on the SO food and the glucosamine/chondroitin supplement, Smoky hasn't had an outbreak since last February(knocking on wood). For the glu/chon, I just buy the human stuff - the double strength and one capsule split between the two boys with their wet food supper. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Original Message From: elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 3:46:04 PM Subject: Re: Antonio Thank you, Phaewryn. I just talked to the vet. Antonio has a lot of struvite crystals in his urine...and a lot of red and white blood cells as well. No blockage - thank goodness -- but I need to be on the lookout for that. They gave him a steroid for the inflammation and a shot of antibiotics -- I think we'll be doing antibiotics for at least 14 days. Wants me to change his diet to prescription c/dbut it bothers me that the 3rd ingredient in this catfood is corn gluten meal. Anyway - it's going to take some logistical ingenuity to figure out how to feed one cat one thing -- and seven others something else. We had recently switched to the chicken soup light formula...but the vet really does not think that is what caused it. I'm getting ready to go get the boy - just can't focus here at work without him. Dr. Jones saw him today and said that Antonio is SUCH a good kitty. and he is. elizabeth On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending healing vibes and positive energy for Antonio! Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Antonio
oh lordy, once more, I am SO glad I have my vets! They take pain control seriously and Smoky was on the acepromazine as an anti-spasmodic and we always went with the fentanyl patch because while the buprenex works well, it wears off and I can't stand seeing him in pain Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Original Message From: elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 5:19:14 PM Subject: Re: Antonio Thank you, Kerry. ***RANT ALERT (from a crazy nicotine addict in withdrawel)*** I've always been very happy with my vet's officebut I came very close to opening up a can of [EMAIL PROTECTED] a bit ago. Those slap-happy receptionist people are USELESS. If I had not asked a stream of questions I would have left there not knowing a d*mn thing about his condition or how serious it is. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] technician brought poor 22lb Antonio out ON HIS BACK (he NEVER likes to be carried that way)...and he was in SO much pain. He just peed everywhere, bless his little heart. He was screaming. This they did before I even had time to check out or talk to the vet or do anything. Once they finally put him down and let me hold him - he was a perfect angel and didn't even pee on my silk shirt. He loves his mommy. Then they forgot to give me the medicine he needs so I had to go back and get it. They wouldn't have given me the special food if I had not said -- doesn't he need some special prescription food too? The whole time they are just as slaphappy as they can be yapping up a storm about how somebody did their hair or how cute some guy is or who did their nails. Little do they know just how close they were to a big can opening. I did my best to be gracious - but I am telling you - I STILL feel like going back down there! That's my BABY! It's serious because there are so many crystals in his urine that he could have a complete blockage at any timeso I have to watch him carefully and make sure he only eats HIS food and nobody else eats his food. Maybe it's just the 8 days without nicotine but I honestly wanted to shake all of them and just pop their heads together. Plus, it didn't help that my regular vet wasn't there. The one who was there is very competent...but refused to give Antonio anything for pain saying that the anti-inflammatory was enough for his pain. I hope he gets this same condition and only gets a steriod shot. *** END RANT ALERT *** Sorry -- it's going to take a few minutes before I can be nice again. I promise, I'll try very hard. elizabeth On 1/8/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending positive vibes for your little Antonio--what a great and noble name!-- to start to feel better now he's had the steroid and antibiotics. hugs Kerryx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Antonio Thank you, Phaewryn. I just talked to the vet. Antonio has a lot of struvite crystals in his urine...and a lot of red and white blood cells as well. No blockage - thank goodness -- but I need to be on the lookout for that. They gave him a steroid for the inflammation and a shot of antibiotics -- I think we'll be doing antibiotics for at least 14 days. Wants me to change his diet to prescription c/dbut it bothers me that the 3rd ingredient in this catfood is corn gluten meal. Anyway - it's going to take some logistical ingenuity to figure out how to feed one cat one thing -- and seven others something else. We had recently switched to the chicken soup light formula...but the vet really does not think that is what caused it. I'm getting ready to go get the boy - just can't focus here at work without him. Dr. Jones saw him today and said that Antonio is SUCH a good kitty. and he is. elizabeth On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending healing vibes and positive energy for Antonio! Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or
Re: Antonio
and this is for struvite crystals?? he shouldn't have to be on that particular dissolving food for THAT long!! 3-4 weeks is what we did and Smoky didn't really like it so he never had it that long, but his regular food is that pH normalizing recipe, so the vet was OK w/that Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Original Message From: elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 5:30:01 PM Subject: Re: Antonio Thanks, MC. I think what I will do is every morning and every evening...I'll set out their eight little bowls for an hour or so and supervise --making sure Antonio only gets his special food. That way, we'll get on a schedule. The advantage of this is that I will be able to see exactly who eats how much and who isn't eating properly...and technically it will be a better way to monitor their intake than just leaving all the dry food down all the time. The vet says that it will take months of this food before Antonio gets back to normal but after that it may be that he can go back to his regular food. The vet tech that I do respect though told me separately that she guarentees if I go back to the other food, he'll get a stone. I just need to educate myself and tune in to these babies as much as I can and get them well. I have a friend who has been a Reiki master since this 60s...I may take Antonio to see her. Couldn't hurt. Whatever it takes to make my babies as healthy as they can be and to feel better. elizabeth On 1/8/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aw, poor antonio, and you, too! glad to hear he's not blocked. and it's always such a joy to have different kits on different foods, but it CAN be worked out! GLOW to both of you. MC On 1/8/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending positive healing vibes for your sweet Antonio, Elizabeth. I hope the vet visit is productive and he feels a whole lot better soon. Please keep us posted when you get time. hugs to you and Antonio, Kerry M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 8:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: ot: Antonio Poor Antonio - I was up much of the night with himhe slept by my pillow with my arm around him. He has some blood in his urine and possibly a kidney stoneplus, his glands need to be expressed so the poor boy just feels rotten. I made them promise me at the vet's they would give him some demerol. He's lost a pound too since he's been on the light formula...that's very good news. I really hated leaving him at the vet's this morning but they told me I really needed to...they will do x-rays and they may have to extract some urine. I'm just worried sick about him. Please, if you would...send prayers...good thoughts...or whatever is your style for the dear boy. We very much appreciate it. Thank you, elizabeth IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S . tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Ember's troubles - your thoughts?
For the last two and a half weeks, I've been fighting intermittent diarrhea (and possibly constipation) with Ember. I haven't resorted to any medicines like Flagyl or Centrine. I'm trying to treat as lightly as possible. I introduced pumpkin into her diet a few days ago, and it really seemed to help, but today, I found a malformed poop in the box, alongside seemingly normal stuff. I've been making daily notes on this problem, since I realized it would be a good idea about a week into it. Apologies in advance for giving such a blow by blow account, but this seems like the best way. Please have a look and tell me what you think. Aside from opinions, I ask your prayers for Ember. Thank you, Lance - December 21, 2006 - Two days after vet appt. with good cbc, weight, coat, etc., hairball thrown up, then diarrhea. December 22-29 - Held food back, discontinued dry food, no treatment other than normal FeLV supplements. Long time between stools because of less food (?). Still some diarrhea. December 30 - Solid, normal bowel movement. Ember is getting most of one can/day of EVO. January 2 - Large stool (or two?). Some runny and a little malformed. Small vomit on bathroom tile with small bits of fur in it. Smaller vomit in sink with very small bit of fur. January 4 - No bm since 2nd. 3/4 tablespoon of pumpkin in nearly one can of food. She's eating it. January 4 - 9PM - small to medium size stool - normal. Some hair sticking out of one piece. Had more food afterwards. January 5 - PM - Found small to medium size stool - normal consistancy. Ember's ears and paw pads feel warm. [30 minutes later] Ember's ears and paw pads don't feel as warm as they seemed to earlier. 1 tablespoon of pumpkin again tonight. January 6 - PM - Small, normal stool. Had pumpkin in food again, tonight. January 7 - PM - Small, normal stool. Had pumpkin in food again, tonight. January 8 - PM - Medium, normal stool. Less pumpkin tonight. January 9 - Just home from work. Found large bowel movement (or two smaller bowel movements?) in the box. Some of it was firm and dry like normal, but there was a substantial portion that was runny and only somewhat formed.
Re: ot: Antonio
Thanks, Nina. Still smoke-free (and grumpy :0) Antonio seems to be feeling better today - he says thanks for the hug. We had another long night but he's definitely perkier today. I know he was in a lot of pain for a while -- breathing heavy and eyes fully dilated. I stayed up with him until he could sleep easy and I stayed home today. The hardest part of this to me is separating the food -- I'm having to put all their bowls down once in the morning and once at night so that I can keep Antonio from eating the other food. It's an adjustment for all of us. On 1/9/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Elizabeth, I just logged on and saw your thread about Antonio. Poor baby! I hope he's doing better today. It's such a shame that you had a hard time at the vet. It's never easy to deal with inconsideration, but when your baby is in pain and danger it's almost impossible to take. I agree that you should speak to your vet about it. The staff sounds insensitive enough to not realize just how inappropriate their behavior is. Have you been doing research on special dietary requirements for crystals? I feed my IBD girl a homemade diet that has kept her feeling good and off of meds for the most part for over a year now. It is extra trouble, but so very worth it. Good for you for not picking up a cigarette during all of this. Are you still smoke free? Give Antonio a hug from me and let us know how he's doing, Nina elizabeth trent wrote: Poor Antonio - I was up much of the night with himhe slept by my pillow with my arm around him. He has some blood in his urine and possibly a kidney stoneplus, his glands need to be expressed so the poor boy just feels rotten. I made them promise me at the vet's they would give him some demerol. He's lost a pound too since he's been on the light formula...that's very good news. I really hated leaving him at the vet's this morning but they told me I really needed to...they will do x-rays and they may have to extract some urine. I'm just worried sick about him. Please, if you would...send prayers...good thoughts...or whatever is your style for the dear boy. We very much appreciate it. Thank you, elizabeth
Junior's eye
I wanted to know if anyone in the group has any experience with an eye medication for glaucoma called dorzolamide, TRUSOPT. Did it help? Any problems? It was called into the pharmacy the cheapest I could find it was at Sam's Club. It is only going into one eye. He also gets medicine in the other eye for the infection. He mostly cannot see now. He runs into things. I hope that is temporary. Thanks Sally Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az. com business=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: Ember's troubles - your thoughts?
Sounds like maybe you scaled back the pumpkin too much to me, go back to the amount you were feeding on the good days. Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight
Re: ot: Antonio
Well...right after saying he was better -- I am just back from zipping his fat butt to the vet's as fast as I could. I was, in fact, on the phone with the vet asking about his pain management policy when Antonio kept trying to urinate and couldn't...finally growled and screamed and his back end. I thought he was blocked. Of course, when I picked the boy up to take him inside at the vet's - I must have put some pressure on his bladder because I felt that unmistakable warm feeling down my sweat pants. That pee saved me a lot of money. The whole staff I was mad at yesterday stayed well past closinggave him a dexe shot, fluids...and a demerol shot - thank goodness! When they put pressure on his bladder - they were able to get him to go more -- and it is far less bloody than yesterday. They say his bladder was probably low on fluids and he was feeling that sandy grit of the crystals in there. I am just very glad to have some pain relief for my boy. He's happy as a clam sprawled out on the kitchen floor just watching the world go by. On 1/9/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Nina. Still smoke-free (and grumpy :0) Antonio seems to be feeling better today - he says thanks for the hug. We had another long night but he's definitely perkier today. I know he was in a lot of pain for a while -- breathing heavy and eyes fully dilated. I stayed up with him until he could sleep easy and I stayed home today. The hardest part of this to me is separating the food -- I'm having to put all their bowls down once in the morning and once at night so that I can keep Antonio from eating the other food. It's an adjustment for all of us. On 1/9/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Elizabeth, I just logged on and saw your thread about Antonio. Poor baby! I hope he's doing better today. It's such a shame that you had a hard time at the vet. It's never easy to deal with inconsideration, but when your baby is in pain and danger it's almost impossible to take. I agree that you should speak to your vet about it. The staff sounds insensitive enough to not realize just how inappropriate their behavior is. Have you been doing research on special dietary requirements for crystals? I feed my IBD girl a homemade diet that has kept her feeling good and off of meds for the most part for over a year now. It is extra trouble, but so very worth it. Good for you for not picking up a cigarette during all of this. Are you still smoke free? Give Antonio a hug from me and let us know how he's doing, Nina elizabeth trent wrote: Poor Antonio - I was up much of the night with himhe slept by my pillow with my arm around him. He has some blood in his urine and possibly a kidney stoneplus, his glands need to be expressed so the poor boy just feels rotten. I made them promise me at the vet's they would give him some demerol. He's lost a pound too since he's been on the light formula...that's very good news. I really hated leaving him at the vet's this morning but they told me I really needed to...they will do x-rays and they may have to extract some urine. I'm just worried sick about him. Please, if you would...send prayers...good thoughts...or whatever is your style for the dear boy. We very much appreciate it. Thank you, elizabeth
Re: ot: Antonio
Thank you, Cindy. I'm so glad Winston is doing well with his new food. Bless his sweet fur face. This is no fun for cat or cat guardian. On 1/9/07, cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elizabeth, I hope Antonio is feeling better today. My baby Winston has a problem with crystals and he is on Science Hill XD can and so far has been doing good with it. You and Antonio are in my prayers. Cindy --- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Elizabeth, I just logged on and saw your thread about Antonio. Poor baby! I hope he's doing better today. It's such a shame that you had a hard time at the vet. It's never easy to deal with inconsideration, but when your baby is in pain and danger it's almost impossible to take. I agree that you should speak to your vet about it. The staff sounds insensitive enough to not realize just how inappropriate their behavior is. Have you been doing research on special dietary requirements for crystals? I feed my IBD girl a homemade diet that has kept her feeling good and off of meds for the most part for over a year now. It is extra trouble, but so very worth it. Good for you for not picking up a cigarette during all of this. Are you still smoke free? Give Antonio a hug from me and let us know how he's doing, Nina elizabeth trent wrote: Poor Antonio - I was up much of the night with himhe slept by my pillow with my arm around him. He has some blood in his urine and possibly a kidney stoneplus, his glands need to be expressed so the poor boy just feels rotten. I made them promise me at the vet's they would give him some demerol. He's lost a pound too since he's been on the light formula...that's very good news. I really hated leaving him at the vet's this morning but they told me I really needed to...they will do x-rays and they may have to extract some urine. I'm just worried sick about him. Please, if you would...send prayers...good thoughts...or whatever is your style for the dear boy. We very much appreciate it. Thank you, elizabeth __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: ot: Antonio
oh, the poor baby! i'm glad he's gotten his happy drugs (having had recurrent utis as a kid, i have nothing but sympathy for ANYONE--of any species--dealing with them!) MC On 1/9/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well...right after saying he was better -- I am just back from zipping his fat butt to the vet's as fast as I could. I was, in fact, on the phone with the vet asking about his pain management policy when Antonio kept trying to urinate and couldn't...finally growled and screamed and his back end. I thought he was blocked. Of course, when I picked the boy up to take him inside at the vet's - I must have put some pressure on his bladder because I felt that unmistakable warm feeling down my sweat pants. That pee saved me a lot of money. The whole staff I was mad at yesterday stayed well past closinggave him a dexe shot, fluids...and a demerol shot - thank goodness! When they put pressure on his bladder - they were able to get him to go more -- and it is far less bloody than yesterday. They say his bladder was probably low on fluids and he was feeling that sandy grit of the crystals in there. I am just very glad to have some pain relief for my boy. He's happy as a clam sprawled out on the kitchen floor just watching the world go by. On 1/9/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Nina. Still smoke-free (and grumpy :0) Antonio seems to be feeling better today - he says thanks for the hug. We had another long night but he's definitely perkier today. I know he was in a lot of pain for a while -- breathing heavy and eyes fully dilated. I stayed up with him until he could sleep easy and I stayed home today. The hardest part of this to me is separating the food -- I'm having to put all their bowls down once in the morning and once at night so that I can keep Antonio from eating the other food. It's an adjustment for all of us. On 1/9/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Elizabeth, I just logged on and saw your thread about Antonio. Poor baby! I hope he's doing better today. It's such a shame that you had a hard time at the vet. It's never easy to deal with inconsideration, but when your baby is in pain and danger it's almost impossible to take. I agree that you should speak to your vet about it. The staff sounds insensitive enough to not realize just how inappropriate their behavior is. Have you been doing research on special dietary requirements for crystals? I feed my IBD girl a homemade diet that has kept her feeling good and off of meds for the most part for over a year now. It is extra trouble, but so very worth it. Good for you for not picking up a cigarette during all of this. Are you still smoke free? Give Antonio a hug from me and let us know how he's doing, Nina elizabeth trent wrote: Poor Antonio - I was up much of the night with himhe slept by my pillow with my arm around him. He has some blood in his urine and possibly a kidney stoneplus, his glands need to be expressed so the poor boy just feels rotten. I made them promise me at the vet's they would give him some demerol. He's lost a pound too since he's been on the light formula...that's very good news. I really hated leaving him at the vet's this morning but they told me I really needed to...they will do x-rays and they may have to extract some urine. I'm just worried sick about him. Please, if you would...send prayers...good thoughts...or whatever is your style for the dear boy. We very much appreciate it. Thank you, elizabeth -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Bandit
I hope he's feeling much better. Hugs and prayers for you both. elizabeth On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bandit is 3.5 years, 15 pounds, and neg/neg. He's healthy, but overweight. Saturday night we came home, dished out the nightly feeding to eight cats, and when we opened the door to where he and his brother eat, found him lying on the bathmat. He wouldn't get up, and when stood up (very gently, my hands by him so he woudln't fall), wouldn't walk. Well, he tried a little but seemed to be in such pain that we quickly put him on the warm waterbed, which the cats all find a comfort zone. When I felt him, it felt like heat was radiating from his left rear knee, and possibly from his front left paw. He was extremely lethargic. However he did respond with affection to the attention he was getting. He did *not* feel hot. We thought perhaps he'd fallen off the cat tree in his sleep (top perch is about 8 feet high, he has fallen off of much shorter places in his sleep). So (it being midnight), we locked him in our bedroom with us and all the amenities. He slept snuggled up to me all night, which he never gets to do these days (we have to lock them out with the kittens here or there's no sleep to be had). The next day he seemed much less lethargic, and more like he'd hurt his leg. He could walk on it some, but clearly experienced discomfort. We opted to wait until Monday, when he could go see his regular vet, where my partner works (yes, there are financial reasons here). So we went today, and found out his temp was 103.8. The vet did a very careful exam and could find NOTHING. No pain on leg extensions; he could hyper-extend the knee a little but nothing too crazy for a cat. No bites. No nothing. The fever indicates infection, so they prescribed Clavamox and to observe him closely. He's walking better but is still not himself (nothing like following a cat around making sure he doesn't jump). He'll continue to receive the isolation/snuggle treatment and I'm again grateful I can work from home so I can keep an eye on him. What in the world? Lynette =^..^= The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be measured by the way in which its animals are treated. --Mahatma Gandhi, 1869-1948
Re: Antonio
Barb - I am so relieved to hear you say that. Thanks for all your input. This doctor who told me that is not my usual vet. I'll ask my vet about the pH normalizing formula. Kiss Smoky for me, elizabeth On 1/9/07, Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and this is for struvite crystals?? he shouldn't have to be on that particular dissolving food for THAT long!! 3-4 weeks is what we did and Smoky didn't really like it so he never had it that long, but his regular food is that pH normalizing recipe, so the vet was OK w/that Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Original Message From: elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 5:30:01 PM Subject: Re: Antonio Thanks, MC. I think what I will do is every morning and every evening...I'll set out their eight little bowls for an hour or so and supervise --making sure Antonio only gets his special food. That way, we'll get on a schedule. The advantage of this is that I will be able to see exactly who eats how much and who isn't eating properly...and technically it will be a better way to monitor their intake than just leaving all the dry food down all the time. The vet says that it will take months of this food before Antonio gets back to normal but after that it may be that he can go back to his regular food. The vet tech that I do respect though told me separately that she guarentees if I go back to the other food, he'll get a stone. I just need to educate myself and tune in to these babies as much as I can and get them well. I have a friend who has been a Reiki master since this 60s...I may take Antonio to see her. Couldn't hurt. Whatever it takes to make my babies as healthy as they can be and to feel better. elizabeth
Re: Transfusions as a systematic treatment
Has anyone had any positive experiences with repeat transfusions of an FELV cat that isn't producing red cells? Any results that show that transfusions (in the absence of any other symptoms but anemia) can at least keep an FELV at status quo? Thanks.
Re: Ember's troubles - your thoughts?
Hi Honey, From your notes, it doesn't sound like anything to be alarmed about. She is having bowel movements, even if they aren't every day. If she were constipated and still eliminating it would more likely be liquid, (sort of edging around the blockage). And you thought you were graphic :). I would add the pumpkin consistently, (same amount, each feeding) and see if things even out. Is she long haired? Has she had a problem with hair balls before? There doesn't seem to be that much vomiting, I don't know, it just doesn't seem like it's time to worry. Nina Lance wrote: For the last two and a half weeks, I've been fighting intermittent diarrhea (and possibly constipation) with Ember. I haven't resorted to any medicines like Flagyl or Centrine. I'm trying to treat as lightly as possible. I introduced pumpkin into her diet a few days ago, and it really seemed to help, but today, I found a malformed poop in the box, alongside seemingly normal stuff. I've been making daily notes on this problem, since I realized it would be a good idea about a week into it. Apologies in advance for giving such a blow by blow account, but this seems like the best way. Please have a look and tell me what you think. Aside from opinions, I ask your prayers for Ember. Thank you, Lance - December 21, 2006 - Two days after vet appt. with good cbc, weight, coat, etc., hairball thrown up, then diarrhea. December 22-29 - Held food back, discontinued dry food, no treatment other than normal FeLV supplements. Long time between stools because of less food (?). Still some diarrhea. December 30 - Solid, normal bowel movement. Ember is getting most of one can/day of EVO. January 2 - Large stool (or two?). Some runny and a little malformed. Small vomit on bathroom tile with small bits of fur in it. Smaller vomit in sink with very small bit of fur. January 4 - No bm since 2nd. 3/4 tablespoon of pumpkin in nearly one can of food. She's eating it. January 4 - 9PM - small to medium size stool - normal. Some hair sticking out of one piece. Had more food afterwards. January 5 - PM - Found small to medium size stool - normal consistancy. Ember's ears and paw pads feel warm. [30 minutes later] Ember's ears and paw pads don't feel as warm as they seemed to earlier. 1 tablespoon of pumpkin again tonight. January 6 - PM - Small, normal stool. Had pumpkin in food again, tonight. January 7 - PM - Small, normal stool. Had pumpkin in food again, tonight. January 8 - PM - Medium, normal stool. Less pumpkin tonight. January 9 - Just home from work. Found large bowel movement (or two smaller bowel movements?) in the box. Some of it was firm and dry like normal, but there was a substantial portion that was runny and only somewhat formed.
Re: Junior's eye
Oh Sally, I'm sorry to hear Junior isn't improving. I'm glad to see you cc'd Kerry R. I'm hoping she can help. I'm pretty sure that Bandy did loose his sight temporarily. I haven't had any experience with serious eye conditions other than the occasional infection. Have you Googled the med? I always research anything a vet prescribes so I have a better idea of it's benefits/side effects. Hopefully someone else has some knowledge to share on this one. You might want to poke your head in on one of the lists for blind kitties for suggestions on how to make him as safe and comfortable as possible. Keep your chin up and give that little angel a head bump from me, Nina Sally wrote: I wanted to know if anyone in the group has any experience with an eye medication for glaucoma called dorzolamide, TRUSOPT. Did it help? Any problems? It was called into the pharmacy the cheapest I could find it was at Sam's Club. It is only going into one eye. He also gets medicine in the other eye for the infection. He mostly cannot see now. He runs into things. I hope that is temporary. Thanks Sally Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html http://www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: ot: Antonio
I'm so lucky that my girl Gypsy is only interested in her special homemade diet. She'll only eat from the other dishes if I fall down on the job and don't keep her bowl full. She also has her own special perch that no one else seems interested in invading. I think I did have a talk with everyone about it, but they don't always keep their agreements. I keep her food and an individual water bowl up there for her and I can add homeopathics to her water if she seems in need. I hope I haven't jinxed myself :)! Antonio is so fortunate to have a mommy that is so in tune to his well being. He obviously knew what he was doing when he chose you! Nina elizabeth trent wrote: Thanks, Nina. Still smoke-free (and grumpy :0) Antonio seems to be feeling better today - he says thanks for the hug. We had another long night but he's definitely perkier today. I know he was in a lot of pain for a while -- breathing heavy and eyes fully dilated. I stayed up with him until he could sleep easy and I stayed home today. The hardest part of this to me is separating the food -- I'm having to put all their bowls down once in the morning and once at night so that I can keep Antonio from eating the other food. It's an adjustment for all of us.
Re: Ember's troubles - your thoughts?
I would do a course of flagyl at this point. I have never had a cat react badly to it. For regular diarrhea, it always has cleared it up. For IBD, which Lucy has and Ember might have, it works really well as an anti-inflammatory. Michelle In a message dated 1/9/2007 6:05:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For the last two and a half weeks, I've been fighting intermittent diarrhea (and possibly constipation) with Ember. I haven't resorted to any medicines like Flagyl or Centrine. I'm trying to treat as lightly as possible. I introduced pumpkin into her diet a few days ago, and it really seemed to help, but today, I found a malformed poop in the box, alongside seemingly normal stuff. I've been making daily notes on this problem, since I realized it would be a good idea about a week into it. Apologies in advance for giving such a blow by blow account, but this seems like the best way. Please have a look and tell me what you think. Aside from opinions, I ask your prayers for Ember. Thank you,
Re: Re: ot: Antonio
Oh man Elizabeth, talk about jinxing ourselves! I'm glad he got some pain meds. Poor sugar, he and you are in my prayers that the worst is behind you. Nina elizabeth trent wrote: Well...right after saying he was better -- I am just back from zipping his fat butt to the vet's as fast as I could. I was, in fact, on the phone with the vet asking about his pain management policy when Antonio kept trying to urinate and couldn't...finally growled and screamed and his back end. I thought he was blocked. Of course, when I picked the boy up to take him inside at the vet's - I must have put some pressure on his bladder because I felt that unmistakable warm feeling down my sweat pants. That pee saved me a lot of money. The whole staff I was mad at yesterday stayed well past closinggave him a dexe shot, fluids...and a demerol shot - thank goodness! When they put pressure on his bladder - they were able to get him to go more -- and it is far less bloody than yesterday. They say his bladder was probably low on fluids and he was feeling that sandy grit of the crystals in there. I am just very glad to have some pain relief for my boy. He's happy as a clam sprawled out on the kitchen floor just watching the world go by.
Re: Transfusions as a systematic treatment
My Simon was helped by repeat transfusions, but he had lymphoma in his bone marrow and just needed to buy time for the chemo to kick in, which it did. What is the situation? If I were going to do transfusions, I would also do steroids (pred or dex) and either epogen or acemannan, both of which have seemed to reverse anemia for cats on this list. Michelle In a message dated 1/9/2007 7:56:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone had any positive experiences with repeat transfusions of an FELV cat that isn't producing red cells? Any results that show that transfusions (in the absence of any other symptoms but anemia) can at least keep an FELV at status quo? Thanks.
Tsunades bald spots
well Tsunade now has 3 bald spots. One in between her shoulder blades on her back, in the middle of the back of her neck, and on the top of her head. I am getting worried. I do not think it is from scratches as it would be too hard too reach. No other animals are with her that could scratch her. I have some possibe ideas as to what is causing it. It could be a side effect of her nausea medicine, a dermatogical skin problem, mites, or food/cleaning product/litter allergy. If it is a food allergy, that would explain her throwing up a lot. She has not thrown up in a while because I give her nausea medicine and pro-biotics as needed and that seems to really help. I am goint to try to email 2 photos, 1 of the spot on her head, and 1 of the spot on her back. any advice would be appreciated. If you cant see the pics because you get the text version, email me in private and I can try to send it to you. Thanks Chelsea
bald spots
Well, the photos are on my computer but my Juno program is down. I will have to call Juno to fix it, then hopefully can send pics soon. aggghhh Chelsea
Re: bald spots
*It's always something! Let us know when you have them...* *Leslie =^..^=* On 1/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the photos are on my computer but my Juno program is down. I will have to call Juno to fix it, then hopefully can send pics soon. aggghhh Chelsea -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
Re: Re: ot: Antonio
Thanks Nina. Things are calm for the moment here at Liz's Kitty Boutique and Day Spa (and sometimes infirmary). Plus, I think I actually went three minutes without thinking about having a ciggy. In three more hours - it will be day 10. On 1/9/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh man Elizabeth, talk about jinxing ourselves! I'm glad he got some pain meds. Poor sugar, he and you are in my prayers that the worst is behind you. Nina elizabeth trent wrote: Well...right after saying he was better -- I am just back from zipping his fat butt to the vet's as fast as I could. I was, in fact, on the phone with the vet asking about his pain management policy when Antonio kept trying to urinate and couldn't...finally growled and screamed and his back end. I thought he was blocked. Of course, when I picked the boy up to take him inside at the vet's - I must have put some pressure on his bladder because I felt that unmistakable warm feeling down my sweat pants. That pee saved me a lot of money. The whole staff I was mad at yesterday stayed well past closinggave him a dexe shot, fluids...and a demerol shot - thank goodness! When they put pressure on his bladder - they were able to get him to go more -- and it is far less bloody than yesterday. They say his bladder was probably low on fluids and he was feeling that sandy grit of the crystals in there. I am just very glad to have some pain relief for my boy. He's happy as a clam sprawled out on the kitchen floor just watching the world go by.
Re: ot: Antonio
I did ship those pills out to you too! At least he is peeing! That's good. The pain is bad, but blockage is worse! Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight
Re: Transfusions as a systematic treatment
When repeat transfusions do not show improvements it's a sign that the FELV has attacked the bone marrow, and it's probably really close to the time to come to terms with the fact that FELV is a terminal illness. I'm so sorry to have to tell you that. You can keep doing the transfusions if the cat feels better and it improves his/her quality of life. Eventually, you'll stop seeing any results from the transfusions, and the cat will keep going downhill. Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight
Re: Tsunades bald spots
Just as a happy pick-me-up for you, I have a cat here that cycles between furry and bald periodically. So long as it's not bothering her (so she's not scratching it and causing sores), I wouldn't worry as much as you are. Fur is cosmetic! :-) Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight
Re: Ember's troubles - your thoughts?
Try apple pectin and/or Metamucil (unflavored and a very small amount). The objective is to add fiber to the diet. Also watch for dehydration. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Lance [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 5:04 PM Subject: Ember's troubles - your thoughts? For the last two and a half weeks, I've been fighting intermittent diarrhea (and possibly constipation) with Ember. I haven't resorted to any medicines like Flagyl or Centrine. I'm trying to treat as lightly as possible. I introduced pumpkin into her diet a few days ago, and it really seemed to help, but today, I found a malformed poop in the box, alongside seemingly normal stuff. I've been making daily notes on this problem, since I realized it would be a good idea about a week into it. Apologies in advance for giving such a blow by blow account, but this seems like the best way. Please have a look and tell me what you think. Aside from opinions, I ask your prayers for Ember. Thank you, Lance - December 21, 2006 - Two days after vet appt. with good cbc, weight, coat, etc., hairball thrown up, then diarrhea. December 22-29 - Held food back, discontinued dry food, no treatment other than normal FeLV supplements. Long time between stools because of less food (?). Still some diarrhea. December 30 - Solid, normal bowel movement. Ember is getting most of one can/day of EVO. January 2 - Large stool (or two?). Some runny and a little malformed. Small vomit on bathroom tile with small bits of fur in it. Smaller vomit in sink with very small bit of fur. January 4 - No bm since 2nd. 3/4 tablespoon of pumpkin in nearly one can of food. She's eating it. January 4 - 9PM - small to medium size stool - normal. Some hair sticking out of one piece. Had more food afterwards. January 5 - PM - Found small to medium size stool - normal consistancy. Ember's ears and paw pads feel warm. [30 minutes later] Ember's ears and paw pads don't feel as warm as they seemed to earlier. 1 tablespoon of pumpkin again tonight. January 6 - PM - Small, normal stool. Had pumpkin in food again, tonight. January 7 - PM - Small, normal stool. Had pumpkin in food again, tonight. January 8 - PM - Medium, normal stool. Less pumpkin tonight. January 9 - Just home from work. Found large bowel movement (or two smaller bowel movements?) in the box. Some of it was firm and dry like normal, but there was a substantial portion that was runny and only somewhat formed.
Re: ot: Antonio
What is he getting for the crystals? When Skeeter had crystals he got DL-Methionine (sp), it fixed him right up and he would eat the tabs right out of my hand. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Transfusions as a systematic treatment
No but Bailey non-regenerative anemia was completely reversed with epogen and prednisolone, they both contributed equally to the turn around, atleast that is what my vet was told by a specialist she was consulting with. Has anyone had any positive experiences with repeat transfusions of an FELV cat that isn't producing red cells? Any results that show that transfusions (in the absence of any other symptoms but anemia) can at least keep an FELV at status quo? Thanks. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Transfusions as a systematic treatment
This is exactly what Bailey's bone marrow aspirate revealed, that the FeLV virus was impairing his bone marrow and new red cell production and the epogen and prednisolone still corrected the anemia, if we had found and treated the cancer I think Bailey may very well still be alive today, it wasn't the anemia that killed him but the undiagnosed cancer. When repeat transfusions do not show improvements it's a sign that the FELV has attacked the bone marrow. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Transfusions as a systematic treatment
Wow, then the old thought of once it's in the marrow it's hopeless no longer exists? Can you take a few minutes and do a good write up of the treatment options for that late stage Belinda... I will post it on my website. I'd do it but you have experience, so you're better for the job! Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight
Re: ot: Antonio
For the crystals themselves, it looks like we are trying to get the change in diet to dissolve them (which certainly seems like a slow process). They've given him fluids and steriod shots...and finally something for pain...and he's taking a daily antibiotic...but nothing to specifically address the crystals themselves. I'll ask about the DL-Methionine. Thanks, Belinda. On 1/9/07, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is he getting for the crystals? When Skeeter had crystals he got DL-Methionine (sp), it fixed him right up and he would eat the tabs right out of my hand. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
URGENT!!
I got this tonight and don't have a clue what to tell her, anyone I'm sure they are probably not FIP but that doesn't change the fact they are homeless. --- I am the owner of a horse boarding business. A lady came with 2 horses to board about 2 years ago. She asked to bring a tack shed here,(8x10) we said OK. Unbeknownst to us she had 8 cats kept in cages in there she said she had bred. We just found out (she told us they were fip pos.) The lady is homeless and lives in her car. We asked her to leave the property cause she couldn't pay horse rent. She took horses but said no place to take the cats except put them to sleep, which is our fault because we are asking her to leave. I don't want the cats to die, but living like that in a small dark room is wrong, we never wanted them here like that. They are cute smaller cats that she bred that are supposed to be exotic and a mixture of wilder cat cousins (bobcat? and Maine coon cat?) Do you have any suggestions what I can do as the property owner to help these cats. The lady can't really make rational decisions. Please help or ideas? We told her she has to be out Fri. Jan. 12, 2007. Sincerely Debbie Opp, Bradbury, Calif. (626) 358-9234 -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: URGENT!!
At 11:00 PM 1/9/2007, you wrote: I got this tonight and don't have a clue what to tell her, anyone I'm sure they are probably not FIP but that doesn't change the fact they are homeless. --- Why can't the lady who's property the cat's are on manage the cats until they can find a home,, SPay / neuter and even barn cats,i do not believe they are fip pos..They need to be vetted first of all and go from there. Kelly Lane I am the owner of a horse boarding business. A lady came with 2 horses to board about 2 years ago. She asked to bring a tack shed here,(8x10) we said OK. Unbeknownst to us she had 8 cats kept in cages in there she said she had bred. We just found out (she told us they were fip pos.) The lady is homeless and lives in her car. We asked her to leave the property cause she couldn't pay horse rent. She took horses but said no place to take the cats except put them to sleep, which is our fault because we are asking her to leave. I don't want the cats to die, but living like that in a small dark room is wrong, we never wanted them here like that. They are cute smaller cats that she bred that are supposed to be exotic and a mixture of wilder cat cousins (bobcat? and Maine coon cat?) Do you have any suggestions what I can do as the property owner to help these cats. The lady can't really make rational decisions. Please help or ideas? We told her she has to be out Fri. Jan. 12, 2007. Sincerely Debbie Opp, Bradbury, Calif. (626) 358-9234 -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.comhttp://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.comhttp://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/clshttp://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.comhttp://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.comhttp://bmk.bemikitties.comNo virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.8/621 - Release Date: 1/9/2007
