Re: [Felvtalk] SPAM!
No worriesevery now and again a troll slips through! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: phaed...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:28:00 -0600 Subject: [Felvtalk] SPAM! Hey all, It takes a pretty sad individual to go through the process of signing up to this group just to SPAM us... :( That person has been removed now. So, please don't bother responding to it. Sorry that this has to happen, but it is taken care of. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Grrr went to the bridge...
I haven't posted much since Grrr was diagnosed back in the spring, but I have been reading and learning. Sadly, my big nasty boy stopped eating a couple of weeks ago. He spent a week at the vets receiving fluids which perked him up a bit, but he would deteriorate quickly when the IV was stopped. My husband and I spent a long time with him on Monday evening, and he made it plain to us that he was tired and ready to go. We stayed with him while he was sent to sleep, and true to his nature he bit the vet and myself one more time for good measure on the way out. It sounds a little twisted, but none of us could stop laughing about that in the moments after he was gone- wiping away tears all the while. It was as if he was talking to us- I'm ready to go; thanks for the good times, and don't you ever forget who the boss is here, you jerks!We should all be lucky enough to have our parting message be heard so clearly by our loved ones. We miss his big nasty self around here. The dog and the other cats have been walking on egg shells, testing their new limits carefully, as if they expect him to pop around a corner at any second and reestablish his dominance. The other cats still will not go near his bed or food dish. The dog, who weighs 140 lbs., still will not enter Grrr's favorite room. Even in absentia he is respected. To all of you who contribute to this list, thank you so very much. I have no doubt that the knowledge I gained here added time and quality to Grrr's life, and I've shared much of what I've learned with my vet, who has been eagerly absorbing the information; other FeLV+ cats in my area will benefit from my experience with Grrr. Thanks again all. Sleep easy, my good boy. We miss you more than words can say. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Grrr went to the bridge...
Amy, I'm so sorry your snarky little guy went to the Bridge. It's good that you were able to smile in the face of such sadness -- it's a testament to Grrr's unique little self. Hugs and Neosporin to all who loved him. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 1:18 PM To: Felv talk Subject: [Felvtalk] Grrr went to the bridge... I haven't posted much since Grrr was diagnosed back in the spring, but I have been reading and learning. Sadly, my big nasty boy stopped eating a couple of weeks ago. He spent a week at the vets receiving fluids which perked him up a bit, but he would deteriorate quickly when the IV was stopped. My husband and I spent a long time with him on Monday evening, and he made it plain to us that he was tired and ready to go. We stayed with him while he was sent to sleep, and true to his nature he bit the vet and myself one more time for good measure on the way out. It sounds a little twisted, but none of us could stop laughing about that in the moments after he was gone- wiping away tears all the while. It was as if he was talking to us- I'm ready to go; thanks for the good times, and don't you ever forget who the boss is here, you jerks!We should all be lucky enough to have our parting message be heard so clearly by our loved ones. We miss his big nasty self around here. The dog and the other cats have been walking on egg shells, testing their new limits carefully, as if they expect him to pop around a corner at any second and reestablish his dominance. The other cats still will not go near his bed or food dish. The dog, who weighs 140 lbs., still will not enter Grrr's favorite room. Even in absentia he is respected. To all of you who contribute to this list, thank you so very much. I have no doubt that the knowledge I gained here added time and quality to Grrr's life, and I've shared much of what I've learned with my vet, who has been eagerly absorbing the information; other FeLV+ cats in my area will benefit from my experience with Grrr. Thanks again all. Sleep easy, my good boy. We miss you more than words can say. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Grrr went to the bridge...
He may have considered you jerks...or at least people to be put in their place...serving him...but I suspect he loved you in his own way. Blessings to you for caring for him even with his difficult personality. On Nov 18, 2009, at 1:17 PM, Amy Ackerman wrote: I haven't posted much since Grrr was diagnosed back in the spring, but I have been reading and learning. Sadly, my big nasty boy stopped eating a couple of weeks ago. He spent a week at the vets receiving fluids which perked him up a bit, but he would deteriorate quickly when the IV was stopped. My husband and I spent a long time with him on Monday evening, and he made it plain to us that he was tired and ready to go. We stayed with him while he was sent to sleep, and true to his nature he bit the vet and myself one more time for good measure on the way out. It sounds a little twisted, but none of us could stop laughing about that in the moments after he was gone- wiping away tears all the while. It was as if he was talking to us- I'm ready to go; thanks for the good times, and don't you ever forget who the boss is here, you jerks!We should all be lucky enough to have our parting message be heard so clearly by our loved ones. We miss his big nasty self around here. The dog and the other cats have been walking on egg shells, testing their new limits carefully, as if they expect him to pop around a corner at any second and reestablish his dominance. The other cats still will not go near his bed or food dish. The dog, who weighs 140 lbs., still will not enter Grrr's favorite room. Even in absentia he is respected. To all of you who contribute to this list, thank you so very much. I have no doubt that the knowledge I gained here added time and quality to Grrr's life, and I've shared much of what I've learned with my vet, who has been eagerly absorbing the information; other FeLV+ cats in my area will benefit from my experience with Grrr. Thanks again all. Sleep easy, my good boy. We miss you more than words can say. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] update on Maggie's not acting normal, advice is appreciated
Well I took Maggie to the vets yesterday. Nothing out of the ordinary on physical exam other than she had a lot of stool in her and she was a bit dehydrated. Makes sense since she hasn't been drinking well. We gave her 200ml of fluids SQ and a Petema enema. She seemed a little better last night and first thing this am but she is still not drinking and hiding. She keeps doing a weird chewing motion almost as if she is chewing on her cheek. She did it last night when I was cleaning her hind end after the enema and she does it when I put water in front of her. Now she is pretty much back to the way she was before the vets. I think I am going to take her back in on Friday and request an x-ray and another set of blood work. Her blood work 2 weeks ago before she felt bad was perfect so I at least have something to compare it to. She has been off the Interferon since the 12th. Any suggestions other than rads and bloodwork? Thanks to everyone for their input. Tanya --- On Sun, 11/15/09, Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com wrote: From: Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Maggie's not acting normal, advice is appreciated To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 8:49 PM My Bailey didn't do well on the interferon either, he was lethargic and didn't eat well, he also was on the 7 on, 7 off, I finally stopped using it and he was fine for years until he passed from pancreatic cancer. Bailey was positive at 5 months of age when he found me, so pretty young too. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Kitten Problems - Please Help
Hi, my name is Crystal. My husband and I rescued three kittens that were 4 weeks old at the time, (now 14 weeks), from an old building. We tamed them as well. About 6 weeks ago we found out that they were all FELV positive. Two of them are fine and doing great. The runt, Nibbler, isn’t. He’s been on antibiotics to try and get rid of his constant runny eyes and nose…we had to stop them about 2 weeks ago because he has bloody diarrhea. He is very symptomatic and my vet says the disease is just running its course and has run out if suggestions for me. He’s also half the size of his brothers. However, I was hoping someone here might have some help for me because I don’t want to give up on him. Here’s my list… He has severe diarrhea. Today it seems to be much more watery and blood. I have been given him yogurt, acidophilus, and Purina Forta Flora. He was getting boiled chicken, but will only eat canned cat food now. He’s also been wormed. He has a constant runny eyes and nose. He gets L-Lysine, B Vitamin Complex, and Ginger Root. Also, from the diarrhea he is very anemic so he gets Pet Tinic. He still runs and tries to get into rooms he’s not supposed to and gets on my chest and purrs in my face. He’s my baby. Please and help and prayers would be appreciated. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Considering Adopting Felv have ?'s
Hi, Im in touch with a rescue group and am considering adopting a cat diagnosed with Felv. Actually, I already told the gal I'd take the cat. . . so NOW I'm doing my homework! LOL Do I have to worry about people coming into my home, whether they handle the cat or not, going back home and risking giving it to their cat? I understand that the disease progresses differently for each cat. What is considered, on average, the lifespan of a cat with Felv. It won't affect my decision, I just want to be somewhat prepared. Thanks ahead of time! _ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten Problems - Please Help
First, lessen the stress on him and on yourself and give him and the others the best food possible. Rescue Remedy and Feliway may help you and the kittens. Second, enjoy every minute you have with these babies. Don't look at calenders and wonder what if when or have self-doubts (almost impossible but try). Every one starts dying the minute they take their first breath. Make life as easy and fun and comfortable as you can for all you care about. Nibbler and his sibblings have a hard row ahead of them but think what their lives would be like if you and your husband hadn't cared? Dixie Louise lived 3 years when the vets were betting a much shorter time. She had everything I thought she might possibly want (with the exception of mice to chase and, had I known she was going to leave so suddenly, I might have gotten her the mice). She was full grown when she came into my life as a throw- away. She was the most wonderful little girl and I would not trade one second with her for anything. That time is well worth the pain. If you have a holistic vet in your area, seek her help. Dixie had her regular vets who are marvelous and she had a great holistic vet, Betty Boswell. I credit the combination of styles for her happy life. Blessings to you, your husband and the kittens. On Nov 18, 2009, at 5:21 PM, Crystal Proper wrote: Hi, my name is Crystal. My husband and I rescued three kittens that were 4 weeks old at the time, (now 14 weeks), from an old building. We tamed them as well. About 6 weeks ago we found out that they were all FELV positive. Two of them are fine and doing great. The runt, Nibbler, isn’t. He’s been on antibiotics to try and get rid of his constant runny eyes and nose…we had to stop them about 2 weeks ago because he has bloody diarrhea. He is very symptomatic and my vet says the disease is just running its course and has run out if suggestions for me. He’s also half the size of his brothers. However, I was hoping someone here might have some help for me because I don’t want to give up on him. Here’s my list… He has severe diarrhea. Today it seems to be much more watery and blood. I have been given him yogurt, acidophilus, and Purina Forta Flora. He was getting boiled chicken, but will only eat canned cat food now. He’s also been wormed. He has a constant runny eyes and nose. He gets L-Lysine, B Vitamin Complex, and Ginger Root. Also, from the diarrhea he is very anemic so he gets Pet Tinic. He still runs and tries to get into rooms he’s not supposed to and gets on my chest and purrs in my face. He’s my baby. Please and help and prayers would be appreciated. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Considering Adopting Felv have ?'s
Consider a combination of holistic and regular vet care for your new friend. I really believe it helped Dixie. A month after Dixie left this world, she sent me a kitten from the same pine thicket she came from. Two weeks later she sent me another. Both boys see a holistic vet as did Dixie and, like Dixie until a few days before she left this world, are extremely healthy. Dixie lived three years (she was full grown when she came into my life and had been on her own for a long time before that). I know of several cats who have reached 10-15 years. Listen to this group. Listen to your heart. Enjoy every wonderful moment with the little one. On Nov 18, 2009, at 5:28 PM, Allison Shenk wrote: Hi, Im in touch with a rescue group and am considering adopting a cat diagnosed with Felv. Actually, I already told the gal I'd take the cat. . . so NOW I'm doing my homework! LOL Do I have to worry about people coming into my home, whether they handle the cat or not, going back home and risking giving it to their cat? I understand that the disease progresses differently for each cat. What is considered, on average, the lifespan of a cat with Felv. It won't affect my decision, I just want to be somewhat prepared. Thanks ahead of time! _ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea? ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten Problems - Please Help
Hi, Crystal -- You'll get some great advice on this list. You guys are great for taking on this problem. I'm sorry Nibbler isn't doing so well. I guess my first (and only -- there are many more experienced people on this list to ask the others) question is how confident are you that your vet is up to speed on FeLV? That's kind of crucial here so that Nibbler gets the most knowledgeable care. Did your vet tell you that sometimes kittens convert to negative once their immune systems develop, and do you know if this is still an option for yours? Best of luck and good vibes for Nibbler and the rest. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Crystal Proper Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kitten Problems - Please Help Hi, my name is Crystal. My husband and I rescued three kittens that were 4 weeks old at the time, (now 14 weeks), from an old building. We tamed them as well. About 6 weeks ago we found out that they were all FELV positive. Two of them are fine and doing great. The runt, Nibbler, isnt. Hes been on antibiotics to try and get rid of his constant runny eyes and nose we had to stop them about 2 weeks ago because he has bloody diarrhea. He is very symptomatic and my vet says the disease is just running its course and has run out if suggestions for me. Hes also half the size of his brothers. However, I was hoping someone here might have some help for me because I dont want to give up on him. Heres my list He has severe diarrhea. Today it seems to be much more watery and blood. I have been given him yogurt, acidophilus, and Purina Forta Flora. He was getting boiled chicken, but will only eat canned cat food now. Hes also been wormed. He has a constant runny eyes and nose. He gets L-Lysine, B Vitamin Complex, and Ginger Root. Also, from the diarrhea he is very anemic so he gets Pet Tinic. He still runs and tries to get into rooms hes not supposed to and gets on my chest and purrs in my face. Hes my baby. Please and help and prayers would be appreciated. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] update on Maggie's not acting normal, advice is appreciated
It sounds like she has tummy acid, Fred has been doing this lately and he will not eat when he feels like this. He gets a 1/4 of a pepcid AC everyday for now, once his weight is up and his tummy feels better I will stop it if that every happens. Make sure it is pepcid AC and not extra strength. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten Problems - Please Help
When my Frankie got an upper respiratory, he had it for a long time. How long has Nibbler been on the antibiotic? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
