Re: [Felvtalk] Ethical assistance needed
Amen.I wouldn't have missed the opportunity to love and be loved by Dixie for anything. The three years we had were wonderful. Dixie was several years old when she came out of a pine thicket to get food with the ferals. Apparently, since she was spayed, she was thrown away at some time in her life. No one knows. All I know is that I was honored to care for her and give her everything I could during her last three years. FYI: She was not sick until a very few days before she left this world. She had regular vet care and holistic care from the best vets in the world, Middletown Animal Clinic and E. A. Boswell DVM. On Dec 20, 2009, at 12:27 AM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Nancy, I can only tell you from my experience and what my vet told me. they can be with negative cats as long as the negatives are up to date on their shots. I have 6 negatives and 2 positives and so far, they are healthy as can be, no signs of problems. as some on this group can tell you, positives can live long lives. my vet said that they may never show signs of illness and live to old age just like negatives. So, by all means, give them a chance for a good home, be up front with the adopters. They will benefit from having these babies with them. Mine have enriched my life and I would not give them up for anything. Dorlis Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: Nancy, I can see no reason why you can not adopt them out with full disclosure. As someone else mentioned adopting them out in pairs if the home has no kitties would be a good idea. They would have a play companion. You could provide the FeLV link to potential adopter so they could learn more about FeLV. http://felineleukemia.org/ The WINN Foundation has a good paper on FeLV that you could provide as a handout. http://www.winnfelinehealth.org/Pages/FeLV_Web.pdf I'm one of those how mixes negatives and positives. All my negatives are vaccinated annually for FeLV. There really is no way of knowing how long a FeLV kitty will live. They deserve a loving home for however long they have. Sharyl --- On Sat, 12/19/09, nancy crandall kabinakenn...@gmail.com wrote: From: nancy crandall kabinakenn...@gmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Ethical assistance needed To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 3:16 PM Hi, I was introduced to this list by a friend who is a cat rescuer. I am a newly placed member of the BOD of a local no kill rescue (dogs mostly). We find ourselves in a very sad predicament for which we have no past experience. We have a cat room with 15 cats all infected with feline leukemia.(they are isolated from all other animals) What is the current ethical guidelines concerning this sort of situation? Can we adopt them out with full disclosure to inside homes only with no other cats? Or is there too much of a chance that they will spread this illness on? Bottom line we would prefer that they were in homes but we are willing to allow them to live out their lives in the shelter as sanctuary if necessary. We do not want to euthanize them if at all possible. Nancy C. -- There are no bad dogs only ignorant owners. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Ben's Zapper Treatments
Hi everyone! I dont know if anyone can remember my story, so in short: Ben was diagnosed with FIV a month ago, and the vet sent us home to die - saying there are no effective treatments for cats with FIV who are sick (Ben had toxoplasmosis at the time). We started Ben on Interferon and a whole cluster of supplements, but he continued to go down-hill. His main issue was anemia. Then my vet did some research, and called to tell me about a treatment with a thing called a Zapper that has shown some promising results in people who have HIV. He tried it on 20 puppies who all had parvo, and out of the 20, 19 survived - he has never been able to pull so many puppies through parvo, usually its 19 who die and 1 that makes it. He wanted to start Ben on the Zapper treatments. Now I'm not the kind of person who easily believes in things that have no scientific base or evidence to prove/disprove treatments. I've researched this Zapper for hours, and have not been able to find any, what I would in my opinion, call 'reliable' facts about this. Lots of websites singing its praises, lost of them saying its not worth the plastic its made of, and no scientific studies to date about it. Ben started the treatments two and a half weeks ago, and since then he has gone from strength to strength. He is no longer on any medications apart from his supplements, and he is a glowing picture of health. The vet is as astonished by his recovery as I am. We are going to run a full blood panel on him in January 2010. My vet said in his experience he has NEVER had a vertically infected kitten who got seriously ill, like with toxoplasmosis, live to be older than 6 months. Ben has just passed the 6 month mark. I can only give my story and hope that it might work for anyone else out there as well as it worked for me. At least google it to make up your mind - its called a Zapper, and it was invented by a lady called Hulda Clarke. It involves holding two copper probes under the cats' front legs for 10 min on/10 min off sessions of 3 cycles. The theory - running a fequency higher than an organisms' own frequency through it, will kill the organism, in other words small organisms like germs and virusses will be killed by it. All I can say is that since we've been Zapping Ben, he hasn't had any more health problems. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Ben's Zapper Treatments
Thank you for posting this. The science behind using radiofrequency generation therapy on people is sound and dates back to the 1930s. A friend of mine purchased a frequency generator for stage III lung carcinoma a couple of months ago and has seen definite changes, though we're still not sure what changes since he is not due for another PET scan for a couple of months and this therapy can take up to three months to see tumor shrinkage/disappearance. The Zapper would seem to have been designed around this science and I am excited to see that you are having success with your cat with FIV. It takes courage to post information about treatments that are not accepted practice in veterinary medicine and I applaud yours. Ironically, I have a cat, Shorty, with chronic pseudomonas aeruginosa of the sinuses and I had recently begun a search for a veterinarian in my area that uses frequency generation on animals. There is one such animal chiropractor in Colorado who was good enough to return my call and tell me about the excellent results she has seen with this therapy. I live in the heart of horse country in Kentucky and I have been told by several frequency generator retailer that this type of treatment is commonly used by horse trainers on expensive race horses, so my quest to find a vet in my area continues. Perhaps I will start with the Zapper and see if we are successful at finding a frequency that will kill the antibiotic-resistance pseudomonas. Thanks again for this info! Sally Snyder Jewell Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natasha Hinsbeeck Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 5:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Ben's Zapper Treatments Hi everyone! I dont know if anyone can remember my story, so in short: Ben was diagnosed with FIV a month ago, and the vet sent us home to die - saying there are no effective treatments for cats with FIV who are sick (Ben had toxoplasmosis at the time). We started Ben on Interferon and a whole cluster of supplements, but he continued to go down-hill. His main issue was anemia. Then my vet did some research, and called to tell me about a treatment with a thing called a Zapper that has shown some promising results in people who have HIV. He tried it on 20 puppies who all had parvo, and out of the 20, 19 survived - he has never been able to pull so many puppies through parvo, usually its 19 who die and 1 that makes it. He wanted to start Ben on the Zapper treatments. Now I'm not the kind of person who easily believes in things that have no scientific base or evidence to prove/disprove treatments. I've researched this Zapper for hours, and have not been able to find any, what I would in my opinion, call 'reliable' facts about this. Lots of websites singing its praises, lost of them saying its not worth the plastic its made of, and no scientific studies to date about it. Ben started the treatments two and a half weeks ago, and since then he has gone from strength to strength. He is no longer on any medications apart from his supplements, and he is a glowing picture of health. The vet is as astonished by his recovery as I am. We are going to run a full blood panel on him in January 2010. My vet said in his experience he has NEVER had a vertically infected kitten who got seriously ill, like with toxoplasmosis, live to be older than 6 months. Ben has just passed the 6 month mark. I can only give my story and hope that it might work for anyone else out there as well as it worked for me. At least google it to make up your mind - its called a Zapper, and it was invented by a lady called Hulda Clarke. It involves holding two copper probes under the cats' front legs for 10 min on/10 min off sessions of 3 cycles. The theory - running a fequency higher than an organisms' own frequency through it, will kill the organism, in other words small organisms like germs and virusses will be killed by it. All I can say is that since we've been Zapping Ben, he hasn't had any more health problems. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Ben's Zapper Treatments
Thank you for posting this. The science behind using radiofrequency generation therapy on people is sound and dates back to the 1930s. A friend of mine purchased a frequency generator for stage III lung carcinoma a couple of months ago and has seen definite changes, though we're still not sure what changes since he is not due for another PET scan for a couple of months and this therapy can take up to three months to see tumor shrinkage/disappearance. The Zapper would seem to have been designed around this science and I am excited to see that you are having success with your cat with FIV. It takes courage to post information about treatments that are not accepted practice in veterinary medicine and I applaud yours. Ironically, I have a cat, Shorty, with chronic pseudomonas aeruginosa of the sinuses and I had recently begun a search for a veterinarian in my area that uses frequency generation on animals. There is one such animal chiropractor in Colorado who was good enough to return my call and tell me about the excellent results she has seen with this therapy. I live in the heart of horse country in Kentucky and I have been told by several frequency generator retailer that this type of treatment is commonly used by horse trainers on expensive race horses, so my quest to find a vet in my area continues. Perhaps I will start with the Zapper and see if we are successful at finding a frequency that will kill the antibiotic-resistance pseudomonas. Thanks again for this info! Sally Snyder Jewell Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natasha Hinsbeeck Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 5:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Ben's Zapper Treatments Hi everyone! I dont know if anyone can remember my story, so in short: Ben was diagnosed with FIV a month ago, and the vet sent us home to die - saying there are no effective treatments for cats with FIV who are sick (Ben had toxoplasmosis at the time). We started Ben on Interferon and a whole cluster of supplements, but he continued to go down-hill. His main issue was anemia. Then my vet did some research, and called to tell me about a treatment with a thing called a Zapper that has shown some promising results in people who have HIV. He tried it on 20 puppies who all had parvo, and out of the 20, 19 survived - he has never been able to pull so many puppies through parvo, usually its 19 who die and 1 that makes it. He wanted to start Ben on the Zapper treatments. Now I'm not the kind of person who easily believes in things that have no scientific base or evidence to prove/disprove treatments. I've researched this Zapper for hours, and have not been able to find any, what I would in my opinion, call 'reliable' facts about this. Lots of websites singing its praises, lost of them saying its not worth the plastic its made of, and no scientific studies to date about it. Ben started the treatments two and a half weeks ago, and since then he has gone from strength to strength. He is no longer on any medications apart from his supplements, and he is a glowing picture of health. The vet is as astonished by his recovery as I am. We are going to run a full blood panel on him in January 2010. My vet said in his experience he has NEVER had a vertically infected kitten who got seriously ill, like with toxoplasmosis, live to be older than 6 months. Ben has just passed the 6 month mark. I can only give my story and hope that it might work for anyone else out there as well as it worked for me. At least google it to make up your mind - its called a Zapper, and it was invented by a lady called Hulda Clarke. It involves holding two copper probes under the cats' front legs for 10 min on/10 min off sessions of 3 cycles. The theory - running a fequency higher than an organisms' own frequency through it, will kill the organism, in other words small organisms like germs and virusses will be killed by it. All I can say is that since we've been Zapping Ben, he hasn't had any more health problems. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Ben's Zapper Treatments
Natasha. A couple of questions if you don't mind. Did you purchase a Zapper to do the treatments at home or do you go to the vet for Ben's treatments? How many treatments a week does Ben get? Does Ben seem to mind the treatments? I've just adopted the 2 FeLV positive kittens that Joan posted about a few weeks ago. Picked them up Thursday and they have already stolen my heart. I'm interested in treatments that might help them 'throw off' this virus. So far I've had 8 positives and lost 5 of them. The remaining 3 are 2 1/2 yrs old and are still positive. Back to googling for more info. Sharyl --- On Sun, 12/20/09, Natasha Hinsbeeck n.hinsbe...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Natasha Hinsbeeck n.hinsbe...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Ben's Zapper Treatments To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 5:01 PM Hi everyone! I dont know if anyone can remember my story, so in short: Ben was diagnosed with FIV a month ago, and the vet sent us home to die - saying there are no effective treatments for cats with FIV who are sick (Ben had toxoplasmosis at the time). We started Ben on Interferon and a whole cluster of supplements, but he continued to go down-hill. His main issue was anemia. Then my vet did some research, and called to tell me about a treatment with a thing called a Zapper that has shown some promising results in people who have HIV. He tried it on 20 puppies who all had parvo, and out of the 20, 19 survived - he has never been able to pull so many puppies through parvo, usually its 19 who die and 1 that makes it. He wanted to start Ben on the Zapper treatments. Now I'm not the kind of person who easily believes in things that have no scientific base or evidence to prove/disprove treatments. I've researched this Zapper for hours, and have not been able to find any, what I would in my opinion, call 'reliable' facts about this. Lots of websites singing its praises, lost of them saying its not worth the plastic its made of, and no scientific studies to date about it. Ben started the treatments two and a half weeks ago, and since then he has gone from strength to strength. He is no longer on any medications apart from his supplements, and he is a glowing picture of health. The vet is as astonished by his recovery as I am. We are going to run a full blood panel on him in January 2010. My vet said in his experience he has NEVER had a vertically infected kitten who got seriously ill, like with toxoplasmosis, live to be older than 6 months. Ben has just passed the 6 month mark. I can only give my story and hope that it might work for anyone else out there as well as it worked for me. At least google it to make up your mind - its called a Zapper, and it was invented by a lady called Hulda Clarke. It involves holding two copper probes under the cats' front legs for 10 min on/10 min off sessions of 3 cycles. The theory - running a fequency higher than an organisms' own frequency through it, will kill the organism, in other words small organisms like germs and virusses will be killed by it. All I can say is that since we've been Zapping Ben, he hasn't had any more health problems. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Zapper
My vet has never mentioned anything about a Zapper. Do most vets have these in their practice or are they used by vets in holistic medicine? How can you find out which vets have them? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Zapper
It would be definitely be considered alternative, Roseann. I have one at home somewhere - got it from my sister's things after her death, I'm not even sure where it is, guess I'd better find it. Gloria On Dec 20, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Roseann Fitzgerald wrote: My vet has never mentioned anything about a Zapper. Do most vets have these in their practice or are they used by vets in holistic medicine? How can you find out which vets have them? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
