Re: [Felvtalk] vets
Michelle Lerner has been on this list for a while, and has a friend who does cat rescue in Manhattan lernermiche...@aol.com Gloria On Jul 2, 2010, at 2:25 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: tks. a friend told me about a vet in the East Village who does regular meds,and holistic med,is very nice and reasonable. --- On Fri, 7/2/10, Gloria B. Lane wrote: From: Gloria B. Lane Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vets To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 2:55 PM Well we've got a New Yorker on the list or did, now I forget who! Gloria On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:35 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: Can anyone recommend a vet that cares about FELV cats in New York City? Thankyou --- On Wed, 6/30/10, Sharyl wrote: From: Sharyl Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and update To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 1:21 PM Amy, based on what you have written I wouldn't worry about the high Ca right now. What was his phos level? There is an issue when both Ca and Phos are high but again that wouldn't affect his hind legs. It could be the anemia. In the end we do what we can with the resources we have. He's lucky to have you loving him. Sharyl --- On Wed, 6/30/10, Amy wrote: From: Amy Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and update To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 12:12 PM No idea why he has hind leg weakness. I'll researched all the causes and none seem to apply other than the leukemia. He has had routine blood work every 6 months of his life and we have monitored him very closely as we do all our positive cats. No major problems other than some weight loss and IBD over the past couple years. I don't think I've ever taken one of my positive cats to the vet that some level hasn't been off. Historically when I've drawn more blood or done further testing, it always ends up being nothing. I spend lots of money and put the cats through lots of testing and then 6 months later, the value is normal again. I've just grown to step back and not flip out every time I see a low or high value for that reason. I have to say I still feel sick every time I see the HCT drop in one of them though. So that's my hesitation with taking 3 ml of blood from a non-regenerative anemic cat. He just had a full CBC/Chem which is not a small amount of blood and I'm afraid to draw so much blood again when I think his time with me is limited to begin with. The only thing I can come up with as a cause of the hind leg weakness is long term steroid use. I read that it's more common with injectable steroids so not sure if it even applies to pred. He's been on pred for almost a year. However, I have no doubt that it is the one thing that has kept him alive. Neither me or the specialist I'm seeing are even considering taking him off that as I have no doubt he will crash. We tried weaning him off it a year ago after treating him for hemobart and he started going downhill quickly. That said, his bone marrow is shot. He's been non-regenerative for over a year and making red blood cells from his spleen or elsewhere. We knew he couldn't do this forever so I'm not shocked at where we are, just sad. Since he's been anemic for a year and holding steady, I guess the weakness could be a result of the anemia as well. Yet he doesn't seem weak otherwise really. He sleeps a lot and yes it's obvious he doesn't keep up with the other cats but not so weak that it takes too much energy to walk in my opinion. His liver and kidney values are all normal. Appetite is normal. No signs of lymphoma after 2 ultrasounds, probably has IBD and is on EVO which seems to have helped keep that in check. His calcium is just over normal - 11.6 with normal being 8.2-11.5. I looked at blood work from all my other cats and they all run towards the high end, 10 or higher. So I'm weighing the risk worth the benefit of drawing another 3 ml of blood to see if he's really got a high calcium vs just waiting it out and if he's around in a month or so, rechecking it then. Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome. Thank you everyone for all the suggestions. My gut tells me that he is close to the point of losing his battle with this disease. I always try to keep hope and remain optimistic but watching one cat after another be taken down by this disease, it's hard to keep the faith sometimes. Fingers crossed, Wolfie will pull through this and defy the odds as he has until now. Amy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@fe
[Felvtalk] Voluntary Recall of Feline’s Pride R aw Food
A FYI for those of you using this food. Go to the FDA link for addition details. Sharyl http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm217826.htm FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - July 1, 2010 - Buffalo, NY – Feline’s Pride is announcing a voluntary recall of Feline’s Pride Raw food with ground bone for cats and kittens, Natural Chicken Formula, Net Wt. 2.5 lbs. (1.13 kg., 40 oz.) produced on 6/10/10, because it may be contaminated with Salmonella. People handling raw pet food can become infected with Salmonella, especially if they have not thoroughly washed their hands after having contact with the raw pet food or any surfaces exposed to the product. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] vets
I'm in NY but in Westchester County--Just north of NYC. I like my vet but it would be a real hassle to come up from NYC. -Original Message- >From: MaryChristine >Sent: Jul 2, 2010 4:27 PM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vets > >yeah, new motto is, "a mind is a terrible thing to lose." > >i can't think of who is in the NYC area--from this list, at least. let me >check with some folks who don't read the list much anymore--tho james just >posted on facebook, so maybe he'll remember > >or not. why should he be immune to losing one's mind? > >you-know-who > > >-- >Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! >Maybe That'll Make The Difference > >MaryChristine >Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) >Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie and weakness in hind legs
Jenny, thank-you for this very helpful information. We are certainly fortunate to have you here! Thanks for the time you took to research this! Laurie "Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way." ~ Martin Luther King, Jr. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 3:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Wolfie and weakness in hind legs I did a little research on neurologic disorders in felv cats. I found a nice article written on 2002 describing about 20 felv cats with neurologic symptoms and the necropsy reports. Most of the cats did not have any tumors. Basically what they found was axonal and myelin degeneration (the neurons and their surrounding sheath were degenerated). The areas that were most strongly affected could be seen without a microscope as plagues in the spinal cord. They stained these cells with a stain that highlights the presence of a specific felv protein - the cells were filled with it. This suggests that the virus infects neurons and destroys them. This results in progressively declining neurologic function. Here's the website to the article: www.drjaymcdonnell.com/refId,26240/refDownload.pml Hope this helps. Jenny ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] vets
yeah, new motto is, "a mind is a terrible thing to lose." i can't think of who is in the NYC area--from this list, at least. let me check with some folks who don't read the list much anymore--tho james just posted on facebook, so maybe he'll remember or not. why should he be immune to losing one's mind? you-know-who -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Wolfie and weakness in hind legs
I did a little research on neurologic disorders in felv cats. I found a nice article written on 2002 describing about 20 felv cats with neurologic symptoms and the necropsy reports. Most of the cats did not have any tumors. Basically what they found was axonal and myelin degeneration (the neurons and their surrounding sheath were degenerated). The areas that were most strongly affected could be seen without a microscope as plagues in the spinal cord. They stained these cells with a stain that highlights the presence of a specific felv protein - the cells were filled with it. This suggests that the virus infects neurons and destroys them. This results in progressively declining neurologic function. Here's the website to the article: www.drjaymcdonnell.com/refId,26240/refDownload.pml Hope this helps. Jenny ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] vets
Ok that's right, I'll give u that- there is more to new York than NYC. Not to insinuate that the rest of you don't count MC, ha! But there's another felvtalk person in either manhatten or across the bridge in NJ. I remember from when my sister died there in 2003 I was thinking gee I wish i could visit xyz. Let's see who is it...brain has gone bye bye. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2010, at 2:57 PM, MaryChristine wrote: um, gloria, dear? new york is a big state! i'm a new yorker after all but everyone, remember to check out belinda's FeLV-friendly list at www.adopt.bemikitties.com. AND ENTER YOUR OWN VET into the database! On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Gloria B. Lane wrote: Well we've got a New Yorker on the list or did, now I forget who! Gloria -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 2
Lorrie, I live in Parkersburg, WV (Wood County). We are not too far away :) ~Marci _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] vets
um, gloria, dear? new york is a big state! i'm a new yorker after all but everyone, remember to check out belinda's FeLV-friendly list at www.adopt.bemikitties.com. AND ENTER YOUR OWN VET into the database! On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Gloria B. Lane wrote: > Well we've got a New Yorker on the list or did, now I forget who! > > Gloria > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] vets
tks. a friend told me about a vet in the East Village who does regular meds,and holistic med,is very nice and reasonable. --- On Fri, 7/2/10, Gloria B. Lane wrote: From: Gloria B. Lane Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vets To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 2:55 PM Well we've got a New Yorker on the list or did, now I forget who! Gloria On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:35 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: > > Can anyone recommend a vet that cares about FELV cats in New York City? > Thankyou > --- On Wed, 6/30/10, Sharyl wrote: > > > From: Sharyl > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and update > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 1:21 PM > > > Amy, based on what you have written I wouldn't worry about the high Ca right > now. What was his phos level? There is an issue when both Ca and Phos are > high but again that wouldn't affect his hind legs. It could be the anemia. > > In the end we do what we can with the resources we have. He's lucky to have > you loving him. > Sharyl > > --- On Wed, 6/30/10, Amy wrote: > >> From: Amy >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and update >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 12:12 PM >> No idea why he has hind leg >> weakness. I'll researched all the causes and none seem >> to apply other than the leukemia. He has had routine >> blood work every 6 months of his life and we have monitored >> him very closely as we do all our positive cats. No >> major problems other than some weight loss and IBD over the >> past couple years. >> >> I don't think I've ever taken one of my positive cats to >> the vet that some level hasn't been off. Historically >> when I've drawn more blood or done further testing, it >> always ends up being nothing. I spend lots of money >> and put the cats through lots of testing and then 6 months >> later, the value is normal again. I've just grown to >> step back and not flip out every time I see a low or high >> value for that reason. I have to say I still feel sick >> every time I see the HCT drop in one of them though. >> So that's my hesitation with taking 3 ml of blood from a >> non-regenerative anemic cat. He just had a full >> CBC/Chem which is not a small amount of blood and I'm afraid >> to draw so much blood again when I think his time with me is >> limited to begin with. >> >> The only thing I can come up with as a cause of the hind >> leg weakness is long term steroid use. I read that >> it's more common with injectable steroids so not sure if it >> even applies to pred. He's been on pred for almost a >> year. However, I have no doubt that it is the one >> thing that has kept him alive. Neither me or the >> specialist I'm seeing are even considering taking him off >> that as I have no doubt he will crash. We tried >> weaning him off it a year ago after treating him for >> hemobart and he started going downhill quickly. That >> said, his bone marrow is shot. He's been >> non-regenerative for over a year and making red blood cells >> from his spleen or elsewhere. We knew he couldn't do >> this forever so I'm not shocked at where we are, just >> sad. Since he's been anemic for a year and holding >> steady, I guess the weakness could be a result of the anemia >> as well. Yet he doesn't seem weak otherwise >> really. He sleeps a lot and yes it's obvious he >> doesn't keep >> up with the other cats but not so weak that it takes too >> much energy to walk in my opinion. >> >> His liver and kidney values are all normal. Appetite is >> normal. No signs of lymphoma after 2 ultrasounds, >> probably has IBD and is on EVO which seems to have helped >> keep that in check. His calcium is just over normal - >> 11.6 with normal being 8.2-11.5. I looked at blood >> work from all my other cats and they all run towards the >> high end, 10 or higher. So I'm weighing the risk worth >> the benefit of drawing another 3 ml of blood to see if he's >> really got a high calcium vs just waiting it out and if he's >> around in a month or so, rechecking it then. Any >> thoughts or suggestions are welcome. >> >> Thank you everyone for all the suggestions. My gut >> tells me that he is close to the point of losing his battle >> with this disease. I always try to keep hope and >> remain optimistic but watching one cat after another be >> taken down by this disease, it's hard to keep the faith >> sometimes. Fingers crossed, Wolfie will pull through >> this and defy the odds as he has until now. >> >> Amy > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] vets
Well we've got a New Yorker on the list or did, now I forget who! Gloria On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:35 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: Can anyone recommend a vet that cares about FELV cats in New York City? Thankyou --- On Wed, 6/30/10, Sharyl wrote: From: Sharyl Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and update To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 1:21 PM Amy, based on what you have written I wouldn't worry about the high Ca right now. What was his phos level? There is an issue when both Ca and Phos are high but again that wouldn't affect his hind legs. It could be the anemia. In the end we do what we can with the resources we have. He's lucky to have you loving him. Sharyl --- On Wed, 6/30/10, Amy wrote: From: Amy Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and update To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 12:12 PM No idea why he has hind leg weakness. I'll researched all the causes and none seem to apply other than the leukemia. He has had routine blood work every 6 months of his life and we have monitored him very closely as we do all our positive cats. No major problems other than some weight loss and IBD over the past couple years. I don't think I've ever taken one of my positive cats to the vet that some level hasn't been off. Historically when I've drawn more blood or done further testing, it always ends up being nothing. I spend lots of money and put the cats through lots of testing and then 6 months later, the value is normal again. I've just grown to step back and not flip out every time I see a low or high value for that reason. I have to say I still feel sick every time I see the HCT drop in one of them though. So that's my hesitation with taking 3 ml of blood from a non-regenerative anemic cat. He just had a full CBC/Chem which is not a small amount of blood and I'm afraid to draw so much blood again when I think his time with me is limited to begin with. The only thing I can come up with as a cause of the hind leg weakness is long term steroid use. I read that it's more common with injectable steroids so not sure if it even applies to pred. He's been on pred for almost a year. However, I have no doubt that it is the one thing that has kept him alive. Neither me or the specialist I'm seeing are even considering taking him off that as I have no doubt he will crash. We tried weaning him off it a year ago after treating him for hemobart and he started going downhill quickly. That said, his bone marrow is shot. He's been non-regenerative for over a year and making red blood cells from his spleen or elsewhere. We knew he couldn't do this forever so I'm not shocked at where we are, just sad. Since he's been anemic for a year and holding steady, I guess the weakness could be a result of the anemia as well. Yet he doesn't seem weak otherwise really. He sleeps a lot and yes it's obvious he doesn't keep up with the other cats but not so weak that it takes too much energy to walk in my opinion. His liver and kidney values are all normal. Appetite is normal. No signs of lymphoma after 2 ultrasounds, probably has IBD and is on EVO which seems to have helped keep that in check. His calcium is just over normal - 11.6 with normal being 8.2-11.5. I looked at blood work from all my other cats and they all run towards the high end, 10 or higher. So I'm weighing the risk worth the benefit of drawing another 3 ml of blood to see if he's really got a high calcium vs just waiting it out and if he's around in a month or so, rechecking it then. Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome. Thank you everyone for all the suggestions. My gut tells me that he is close to the point of losing his battle with this disease. I always try to keep hope and remain optimistic but watching one cat after another be taken down by this disease, it's hard to keep the faith sometimes. Fingers crossed, Wolfie will pull through this and defy the odds as he has until now. Amy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FELV Shelter Insurance HELP!
Regarding volunteers, which MC's note reminded me, we have volunteers sign a release form (if they're under 18, which I don't like doing, parents must sign).the insurance is meant mostly to cover anyone who comes to see cats should they get scratched (and complain!) - most people don't. But things can happen, like tripping on a staircase, slipping on ice, etc. Yes, people are definitely weird - cannot trust anyone and must be covered just in case"! This whole thing with not being able to get coverage really seems very strange. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 11:13 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV Shelter Insurance HELP! i've stayed out of this one because it seemed a bit too weird, and i didn't really have anything to add. but i do remember when we were looking into insurance at the sanctuary (where about 300 of the 600 cats were FIV and FeLV), we were never asked a single question about what sorts of cats we had, or whether or not we were adopting them out. this email reminded me of what a friend who's been in the insurance business for 30 years told us, tho--that VOLUNTEERS at a shelter/sanctuary were considered to have acknowledged and accepted the risks involved with working with fanged and clawed critters (and most volunteer apps/agreements remind them of that,) but that the VISITORS, as mentioned here, are the issue. important distinction, but not the primary one here. i'm wondering if it's a state law thing: in KS, and possibly in MA (tho we need someone to track the latter down), it is essentially illegal to adopt out FIVs or FeLVs: if they come into a shelter, there are two options and two options only. they can be killed, or they can be kept until they pass over the bridge. they can't be adopted out, they can't be transferred to another rescue/shelter, they can't even be fostered out. we think that the actual law in KS is being misinterpreted and misapplied, and suspect the same in MA, as in both places, FIVs and FeLVs have been adopted and fostered out for years, and in KS we've talked with shelters and animal-control officers who've never heard about this. the state dept of agriculture is usually who licenses and inspects facilities; i know from your website and facebook page that you've been doing all the legal stuff--if they didn't mention anything to you, it seems unlikely that it's state law that's involved. perhaps your inspector might have some insight? MC -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FELV Shelter Insurance HELP!
i've stayed out of this one because it seemed a bit too weird, and i didn't really have anything to add. but i do remember when we were looking into insurance at the sanctuary (where about 300 of the 600 cats were FIV and FeLV), we were never asked a single question about what sorts of cats we had, or whether or not we were adopting them out. this email reminded me of what a friend who's been in the insurance business for 30 years told us, tho--that VOLUNTEERS at a shelter/sanctuary were considered to have acknowledged and accepted the risks involved with working with fanged and clawed critters (and most volunteer apps/agreements remind them of that,) but that the VISITORS, as mentioned here, are the issue. important distinction, but not the primary one here. i'm wondering if it's a state law thing: in KS, and possibly in MA (tho we need someone to track the latter down), it is essentially illegal to adopt out FIVs or FeLVs: if they come into a shelter, there are two options and two options only. they can be killed, or they can be kept until they pass over the bridge. they can't be adopted out, they can't be transferred to another rescue/shelter, they can't even be fostered out. we think that the actual law in KS is being misinterpreted and misapplied, and suspect the same in MA, as in both places, FIVs and FeLVs have been adopted and fostered out for years, and in KS we've talked with shelters and animal-control officers who've never heard about this. the state dept of agriculture is usually who licenses and inspects facilities; i know from your website and facebook page that you've been doing all the legal stuff--if they didn't mention anything to you, it seems unlikely that it's state law that's involved. perhaps your inspector might have some insight? MC -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] WV (Marci)
On 07-02, Marci Greer wrote: > > Marnie, > > What state do you live in? I'm an insurance agent in WV, I might > be able to help you find a company. Marci, Where are you in WV? I'm in Terra Alta, Preston County, in the mountains almost to the border of western Maryland. > ~Marci > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FELV Shelter Insurance HELP!
On the insurance issue...please try to get something that covers people who visit. Cats scratch and they bite. I had two surgeries on a finger that one little girl who was defending herself broke. Had it been on someone else's property or had she been an owned cat, that person and not my insurance would have footed the bills .even though it was my fault I was bitten. My insurance company called with zillions of questions to make sure they could not put the bill off on someone else. I've been nipped and scratched by my own cats too with no problem but there are so many mean-spirited people and you are doing a wonderful thing. On Jul 2, 2010, at 7:50 AM, Natalie wrote: I operate my 501 (c) (3) cat rescue group from home; we have regular home insurance and an umbrella to cover any volunteers, workers and people who come to adopt. We have never even been asked about the state of health of all the cats - they don't care. We have a small number of FIV/FeLV positive cats and many more healthy cats. I never planned it that way, but since they were rescues, I wasn't going to kill them or not accept themso here I am. It really did sound to me that they may have been under the impression that the cats were to be insured, is that possible? I can't think of any other reason for anyone giving a hoot about the health of cats at a shelter, wherever it may be!!! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:21 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Chris Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV Shelter Insurance HELP! ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE KENNEL PACK IS ASSOCIATED WITH PETA WITH THEIR ATTITUDE TOWARDS FELV POS CATS. THEY NEED AN UPDATE FROM A VET ABOUT POS AND NEG FELV CATS. SINCE THE VIRUS DOES NOT LIVE LONG OUTSIDE THE HOST(AFTER IT IS DRIED OUT), MY VET SAID MAIN PROBLEM WOULD BE IF THEY GOT INTO A REAL KNOCKDOWN FIGHT AND BIT EACH OTHER . THAT WAY THE SALIVA FROM POS CAT COULD ENTER BLOODSTREAM O NEG CAT AND CAUSE A PROBLEM. SO, IF YOU KEEP THEM IN SEPERATE ROOMS, YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. Chris wrote: You might want to try some of the places that do keep AND adopt out FELV + and neg cats. Sounds a bit crazy to me that they wouldn't give you insurance. -Original Message- From: Marnie Miszewski Sent: Jun 30, 2010 1:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] FELV Shelter Insurance HELP! I need Liability insurance. I tried Kennel Pack and they sent me an apology letter. They won't insure me because I adopt out healthy cats and keep FELV positive cats in the same building. It's not like I keep them together. They each have their own cageless room. I also had to promise never to adopt out the FELV positive cats for them to even consider me and still they wouldn't insure me. I know some of you do this, so I'm hoping you can point me in the direction of people who are a little more understanding to the needs of these kitties. It isn't fair to discriminate against me or these animals. I just want to provide a no kill place for them to live and help find homes for all of the kitties if possible. :-( THANKS!! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 1
Marnie, What state do you live in? I'm an insurance agent in WV, I might be able to help you find a company. ~Marci _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FELV Shelter Insurance HELP!
I operate my 501 (c) (3) cat rescue group from home; we have regular home insurance and an umbrella to cover any volunteers, workers and people who come to adopt. We have never even been asked about the state of health of all the cats - they don't care. We have a small number of FIV/FeLV positive cats and many more healthy cats. I never planned it that way, but since they were rescues, I wasn't going to kill them or not accept themso here I am. It really did sound to me that they may have been under the impression that the cats were to be insured, is that possible? I can't think of any other reason for anyone giving a hoot about the health of cats at a shelter, wherever it may be!!! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:21 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Chris Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV Shelter Insurance HELP! ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE KENNEL PACK IS ASSOCIATED WITH PETA WITH THEIR ATTITUDE TOWARDS FELV POS CATS. THEY NEED AN UPDATE FROM A VET ABOUT POS AND NEG FELV CATS. SINCE THE VIRUS DOES NOT LIVE LONG OUTSIDE THE HOST(AFTER IT IS DRIED OUT), MY VET SAID MAIN PROBLEM WOULD BE IF THEY GOT INTO A REAL KNOCKDOWN FIGHT AND BIT EACH OTHER . THAT WAY THE SALIVA FROM POS CAT COULD ENTER BLOODSTREAM O NEG CAT AND CAUSE A PROBLEM. SO, IF YOU KEEP THEM IN SEPERATE ROOMS, YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. Chris wrote: > You might want to try some of the places that do keep AND adopt out FELV + and neg cats. Sounds a bit crazy to me that they wouldn't give you insurance. > > -Original Message- > >From: Marnie Miszewski > >Sent: Jun 30, 2010 1:57 PM > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >Subject: [Felvtalk] FELV Shelter Insurance HELP! > > > >I need Liability insurance. I tried Kennel Pack and they sent me an apology > >letter. They won't insure me because I adopt out healthy cats and keep FELV > >positive cats in the same building. It's not like I keep them together. They > >each have their own cageless room. I also had to promise never to adopt out > >the FELV positive cats for them to even consider me and still they wouldn't > >insure me. I know some of you do this, so I'm hoping you can point me in the > >direction of people who are a little more understanding to the needs of > >these kitties. It isn't fair to discriminate against me or these animals. I > >just want to provide a no kill place for them to live and help find homes > >for all of the kitties if possible. :-( > > > > > > > >THANKS!! > > > >___ > >Felvtalk mailing list > >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
