[Felvtalk] Maggie
Hello everyone, It has been a while since I have been able to get on. I found out last month that my FelV+ Maggie who turned 2 years old 16 days ago was just diagnosed with a grade 4/6 heart murmur. She has seen many vets in her short life and has not had a detectable one previously not even 7 months ago when she had her bi-annual physical and blood work. I took her in for her physical and because lately she has had some exercise intolerance that isn't normal for a 2 year old. Her heart ultrasound gave us a diagnosis of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Her walls were very thick and flow greatly reduced. We started he on Enalapril. I was wondering if anyone else has had the same diagnosis and if so if there was anything that worked well for your little ones. Her heart disease is progressing very quickly and I was told that with her type there isn't anything they can do to slow it down, we are only making her more comfortable with the Enalapril by making her heart not have to work as hard. Any advice is appreciated, Tanya (Maggie's Mom) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7
Here is some good information on FeLV and testing. The IFA is a different type of test. http://www.marleyfund.com/testing.aspx#selection Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous From: Ana Gutierrez ana...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 10:35:22 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7 Dear Sharyl, Barb, Natalie and all Thank you. She has non-regenerative anemia. Yesterday she started receiving the EPO, and this morning we were able to find a compatible cat to make a transfusion. Nevertheless, the blood count hasn't improved. If she lives a few more days, the EPO might work for her. Barb, IFA? Iron Folic Acid? for supplement? Please tell me more Natalie, thanks for your vet answer. At this point, I'd rather risk with the EPO, since she doesn't have much chances. Thank you all. Best wishes, Ana ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Maggie
Hello Tanya, HCM is tough. In people it's often hereditary and treated with ACE inhibitors (like enalapril), beta blockers (sotalol, metropolol,etc.) and/or diuretics (lasix), and sometimes aspirin or other agent to inhibit blood clots. Transplants are used in certain situations. My understanding is that with cats you can also use any of the above mentioned meds, using caution with aspirin. I think sometimes that conventional medicine is limited and natural or alternative methods can sometimes help. I found a small amount of information on it that you could maybe research or ask your vet or simply try. I'll copy and paste it here: Natural Remedy Options One of the most effective natural remedies is proper diet and exercise. http://www.brighthub.com/health/alternative-medicine/articles/5.aspx#. There is no pill that cures this problem as of now but researchers and scientists are always working on towards a cure. Until then there are simple things that can be incorporated in your cat’s daily diet that will help them. There are medicines to consider to thin the blood and stop the enlargement of the heart wall. Aspirin (low doses that are safe for felines), diuretics and a beta blocker are popular for this condition. Check with your vet about the aspirins as some cats may be able to handle it but others can not! If your cat is sensitive to aspirin try Nattokinase instead. As far as the daily diet, quality foods can make the difference in your cat (quality foods not commercial foods). Commercial foods tend to have a lot of salt which can be very bad for this condition. Homemade meals are a lot better. Foods high in taurine have a positive effect as well as organic foods with broccoli and oats. Cooked liver can provide essential nutrients to help your cat feel better. When considering supplements the following have been known to support health and longevity in cats with Feline Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy: • Vitamin E oil • B-Vitamins • Hawthorne berry • Dandelion leaf • Fish oil • Coenzyme Q10 If you are interested in homemade diets there are certainly individuals in this group that could recommend something. If not let me know and I'll send you something. Good luck. Jenny Read more: http://www.brighthub.com/health/alternative-medicine/articles/5.aspx#ixzz0t7Ccfzr7 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:08 AM, TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.comwrote: Hello everyone, It has been a while since I have been able to get on. I found out last month that my FelV+ Maggie who turned 2 years old 16 days ago was just diagnosed with a grade 4/6 heart murmur. She has seen many vets in her short life and has not had a detectable one previously not even 7 months ago when she had her bi-annual physical and blood work. I took her in for her physical and because lately she has had some exercise intolerance that isn't normal for a 2 year old. Her heart ultrasound gave us a diagnosis of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Her walls were very thick and flow greatly reduced. We started he on Enalapril. I was wondering if anyone else has had the same diagnosis and if so if there was anything that worked well for your little ones. Her heart disease is progressing very quickly and I was told that with her type there isn't anything they can do to slow it down, we are only making her more comfortable with the Enalapril by making her heart not have to work as hard. Any advice is appreciated, Tanya (Maggie's Mom) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Maggie
The best thing you can do for her immediately, which many vets will NOT tell you, is give her CoQ10 - the easiest way is to buy it in powder form in a capsule, open and sprinkle into food. GNC's vegetarian formula is a good one - others come in gelcaps filled with oil. I routinely give it to all the FIV/FeLV+ cats in their food. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of TANYA NOE Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:08 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Maggie Hello everyone, It has been a while since I have been able to get on. I found out last month that my FelV+ Maggie who turned 2 years old 16 days ago was just diagnosed with a grade 4/6 heart murmur. She has seen many vets in her short life and has not had a detectable one previously not even 7 months ago when she had her bi-annual physical and blood work. I took her in for her physical and because lately she has had some exercise intolerance that isn't normal for a 2 year old. Her heart ultrasound gave us a diagnosis of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Her walls were very thick and flow greatly reduced. We started he on Enalapril. I was wondering if anyone else has had the same diagnosis and if so if there was anything that worked well for your little ones. Her heart disease is progressing very quickly and I was told that with her type there isn't anything they can do to slow it down, we are only making her more comfortable with the Enalapril by making her heart not have to work as hard. Any advice is appreciated, Tanya (Maggie's Mom) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Subject: Maggie
Hi Tanya: I am so sorry about your Maggie. My FELV+ kitty was diagnosed with Early HCM years ago but it never really progressed much beyond a certain thickness on one side. He also was diagnosed with a perfect valentine shaped heart - misshapen. I used to give him CoQ10 - mixed in his canned food - 10 mg per day for his HCM. I can't say if it did or did not help but it didn't seem to hurt him at all. I stopped giving it to him when he was diagnosed with FELV - no reason really other than I'm giving him so much other stuff right now! Saying purrayers for your furbaby. Stacy = Message: 4 Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 08:08:05 -0700 (PDT) From: TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Maggie Message-ID: 630180.7808...@web57902.mail.re3.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello everyone, ? ???It has been a while since I have been able to get on. I found out last month that my FelV+ Maggie who turned 2 years old 16 days ago was just diagnosed with a grade 4/6 heart murmur. She has seen many vets in her short life and has not had a detectable one previously not even 7 months ago when she had her bi-annual physical and blood work. I took her in for her physical and because lately she has had some exercise intolerance that isn't normal for a 2 year old. Her heart ultrasound gave us a diagnosis of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Her walls were very thick and flow greatly reduced. We started he on Enalapril. I was wondering if anyone else has had the same diagnosis and if so if there was anything that worked well for your little ones. Her heart disease is progressing very quickly and I was told that with her type there isn't anything they can do to slow it down, we are only making her more comfortable with the Enalapril by making her heart not have to work as hard. Any advice is appreciated, Tanya (Maggie's Mom) stacy_zac...@yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Beltza 2009-2010
Dear all, Thanks for being so supportive. Beltza left this morning. Fortunately, I spend all yesterdays afternoon with her, and had a chance to say good-bye. I'll miss her my whole life. Ana ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Beltza 2009-2010
Ana, I am so very sorry for your loss. Beltza was a very lucky girl to have someone like you to care for her and look out for her. We will light a candle tonight to honor the bond the two of you shared. My heart goes out to you. Sara -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ana Gutierrez Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:06 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Beltza 2009-2010 Dear all, Thanks for being so supportive. Beltza left this morning. Fortunately, I spend all yesterdays afternoon with her, and had a chance to say good-bye. I'll miss her my whole life. Ana ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 5263 (20100708) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Beltza 2009-2010
I'm so sorry. GLOW to light her path and ease your heart. You will remember her and what you have learned from having her in your life forever. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous From: Ana Gutierrez ana...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 2:06:29 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Beltza 2009-2010 Dear all, Thanks for being so supportive. Beltza left this morning. Fortunately, I spend all yesterdays afternoon with her, and had a chance to say good-bye. I'll miss her my whole life. Ana ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Beltza 2009-2010
may the blessings of light be with her, light outside and light within her. she will always be a part of you, from her comfy resting spot in your heart. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Maggie
Good point MC. A good Yahoo heart group is http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-heart/ My sweet Albert was dx with severe HCM on top of advanced CRF. He enjoyed another 1 1/2 yrs with help from this group before his little heart gave out. Sharyl --- On Thu, 7/8/10, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Maggie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 3:13 PM folks, please remember that we are NOT vets on this list. HCM is a much more serious condition than most cats with FeLV will ever face, and there are far better lists than this one to learn about it. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Beltza 2009-2010
Ana, I was saddened to read that Beltza has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. We love them, care for them and in the end let them go. The loved you shared with Beltza will always be there along with your special memories. Sharyl --- On Thu, 7/8/10, Ana Gutierrez ana...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ana Gutierrez ana...@gmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Beltza 2009-2010 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 3:06 PM Dear all, Thanks for being so supportive. Beltza left this morning. Fortunately, I spend all yesterdays afternoon with her, and had a chance to say good-bye. I'll miss her my whole life. Ana ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Beltza 2009-2010
Ana I am so sorry to hear about Beltza. You took good care of her and she knows that you loved her. Think all all the good times. She will always be with you. Sally On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Ana Gutierrez ana...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, Thanks for being so supportive. Beltza left this morning. Fortunately, I spend all yesterdays afternoon with her, and had a chance to say good-bye. I'll miss her my whole life. Ana ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Sally(me), Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soul mate angel), Lionel(angel),Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black(MIA), Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior, Hotdog (newest) Silver, and Spike ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Beltza 2009-2010
Ana I am so so sorry. Please talk to her, I know her little spirit is around you. Shannon --- On Thu, 7/8/10, Ana Gutierrez ana...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ana Gutierrez ana...@gmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Beltza 2009-2010 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 2:06 PM Dear all, Thanks for being so supportive. Beltza left this morning. Fortunately, I spend all yesterdays afternoon with her, and had a chance to say good-bye. I'll miss her my whole life. Ana ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Beltza and myself
aNA, YOUR BAby has been through so much. it seems that you are right that all of her injuries must have at least contributed to this latest problem. will keep you and her in my prayers since i have no real expertise in this. i know prayer does work miracles sometimes. it did for me. Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: Ana, I am sorry about Beltza's issues. The immediate short term treatment for severe anemia is a transfusion. If she has non-regenerative anemia erythropoietin may help her. Many cats receive it successfully. It is true that after a few months some do develop the antibodies you refer to but the majority do not. There is a Yahoo Anemia group that has some good info in there files. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline_Anemia/ Please talk to your vet to see if a transfusion is an option for Beltza. Sharyl --- On Tue, 7/6/10, Ana Gutierrez ana...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ana Gutierrez ana...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Beltza and myself To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 11:39 AM Hi, I am new to the mailing list. I live in México and I am studying my PhD in microbiology, bioinformatics and genomic sciences -- in case I can be of any help. My cat, Beltza was recently diagnosed (last Saturday)as FeLV+ and the blood count show almost no red blood cells. The best vet I have found in my town is attending her, she is staying with him at his hospital. He told me he had ordered erythropoeitin to treat her anemia, as it was the first thing to resolve for her. I read an article about how cats express antibodies against human and hence cat hormone. I am terryfied. I will ask him not to use the hormone, but I don't know which is the treatment to use. Do you know which is the correct treatment for anemia? She has all the symptoms for anemia (her tongue is white) and that is the reason of her staying at the vet hospital. She refuses to eat, she has lost 4 pounds now, please help me I don't want her to die. I rescued her from the streets last November, she was six months old and she was pregnant, malnourished, she had a broken rib, a broken tooth, and her whiskers were burned. I ask the vet for an abortion since there are too much homeless kitties in this world, and to spayed her. She was fully recovered and so gorgeous, until last month... when a dog bit her, and then a spider ( *Loxosceles reclusa*) bit her, the tissue was in necrosis, so a surgery was needed to prevent a higher necrosis. I believe that all these, plus the stress, plus the antibiotics, analgesics and anesthesia is the reason for her viral and anemial crisis. I hope you guys know how to treat her anemia, any help will be greatly appreciatted. I want her back home. Thanks in advance, Ana ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] New kitten
It's now been just over two months since Tommy died. My heart is ready to welcome home a new kitten. My other two cats have tested negative for FeLV (yay!!). Is there anything special I need to do to make sure the virus isn't still on toys, bedding, etc? I did wash the bedding, and I'm going to throw out some of the older toys. But stuff like the turbo scratcher (ball around a circle)? Thank you, Lisa ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New kitten
Feline Leukemia Virus is rather fragile outside of the body and as the saying goes, when it dries, it dies, so it is extremely doubtful that any has survived for 2 months. Gary -- From: Lisa Borden tuckerandtes...@zoominternet.net Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] New kitten It's now been just over two months since Tommy died. My heart is ready to welcome home a new kitten. My other two cats have tested negative for FeLV (yay!!). Is there anything special I need to do to make sure the virus isn't still on toys, bedding, etc? I did wash the bedding, and I'm going to throw out some of the older toys. But stuff like the turbo scratcher (ball around a circle)? Thank you, Lisa ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
