Re: [Felvtalk] Wyatt and Booker T. Please add to the CLS :( :(
Sherry-My heart goes out to you-Bless you for giving these precious babies all the love that you do. I don't know how you and the others do it-over and over. My heart has been shattered by losing Rosie's 4 brothers and Murphy, who was tossed into the feral colony that we rescued Rosie and the boys from when they were about 8 weeks old, Murphy was about 6 months old when we brought him home-all 6 were positives and I didn't have a clue what we were up against. We are down to just Rosie being positive and the 2 negatives we adopted when she was devastated with Murphy's passing in October and she was all alone. But you have the strength to take in all the positives and give them the love and care they need, not just cage them away in a dark room-you give them your heart and energy-they blossom and thrive in your care. Thank you and all the others who give so much of yourselves. All of our fur kids are playing together with boundless energy, free of the anemia, Lymphoma and all the other opportunistic ailments they so easily succumb to. I am so thankful there are people like you with the big hearts out there to save these babies. Alice ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Wyatt and Booker T. Please add to the CLS :( :(
We lost sweet Wyatt on March 4. I sponsored this great orange boy with a monthly donation. Booker T. we lost last night...he wasa crazy black boy that loved bare toes in the summer and LOVED to give you hugs...both of these AWESOME Sids kids will be missed VERY much. :( Thanks all Sherry "We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way" ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Rosie's Check Up Today-Pretty Good!
WooHoo!! Rosie had a great check up today!! The mass in her throat / neck was so much smaller in just 3 weeks on the Pred / Leukeran regime. We are going to decrease the Prednisolone and keep up the Leukeran. Ultrasound showed no Lymphoma in her abdomen (so far)Her hot, red ears may get better with the lower dosage. Dr said she had good color, no temp. Looks like with luck and purrayers, she may be around to thump on Miso a bit longer! Alice and the kids-Rosie, Miso and Sachi (the 2 negatives I adopted a few months ago) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] facebook or twitter?
Have you thought about getting on facebook or twitter? I think so many people on there would appreciate easy access to this amazing group of very educated and passionate group of people. There is nothing there I have found that even comes close to this group/site/list. * * www.twitter.com/smallspark * Share something interesting today.* ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
So sorry to hear of your loss. I believe I am more sentimental than I have ever been! But, I can't help it Is this what happens after you pass the 50 mark??? Must be "menopaws" contributing to it, I guess. LOL Jannes From: Maureen Olvey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 5:24:52 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Alright you two - cut it out! It's only been a week and two days since my two year old cat died so it doesn't take much right now to get me bawling like a baby. No, really you guys aren't upsetting me. I think about her a lot anyway. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:00:01 -0700 > From: jannestay...@yahoo.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > I can relate to that! I've had quite a few cats in my 52 years. You never >really > > forget no matter how long it has been. > > Jannes > > > > > > From: Natalie > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 4:30:13 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > You're among like-minded people in this group - just this afternoon, I was > sitting with a few cats in my lap, a dog next to me, watching the horrors > happening in Japan. I looked over at one of our cats who looks just like > our old Houdini who die in Novembersuddenly, I started tearfully > remembering details of almost ALL the cats that have died in my > lifetimenow, I have a headache. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 4:56 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > Thanks, Bonnie, > Yes, Amber and I have a connection now but I am very tender hearted and know > it > will be painful if her health gets bad. We had to have our Great Dane put > down > five years ago and I STILL get teary eyed about that. He had cardio myothapy > and > an parasitic infection. > It does warm my heart to see Amber safe, well fed, and adjusting to her new > surroundings. She won't "play" yet, but maybe that will come.. > Jannes > > > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey friendly FelV positive senior?
Will do Stray Cat Alliance. Thank you Beverly for sharing. He needs some help. Catherine Thank you for reaching out and offering to take him. I sent you an email last night but maybe it didn't make it, my internet was acting funny last night and I didn't get a response yet so I'm worried you didn't get it. Where are you in NYC? Could you send me your info or may I send you the info to reach out directly to the rescue who is trying to place him. My contact think that they will allow transport to you. I hope we manage to connect - maybe you might be interested in a kitten too? Someone sent me an email today asking for help. I should have a link with image on it soon. I also just had someone local contact me about a FeLV kitten her friend pulled from a nyc shelter but her family is flipping out about his felv status and she has to rehome the cat. If you want to see the kitty, he's in facebook on the Philly Urgent's page - photo gallery called urgent cats - he's gray, he's a bit beat up but still cute and over someone's shoulder. He just takes your heart. Open to suggestions. I'm not a rescue or non profit. Just involved b/c of Buddy. :) Dana * * www.twitter.com/smallspark * Share something interesting today.* On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:11 PM, POTT, BEVERLY wrote: > My cat Bob shared the link on his Facebook profile, too... > > www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1651466497581&set=a.1457687733233.205681 > 3.1564571765 > > -Original Message- > From: dana giordano [mailto:giordano.d...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:41 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey > friendly FelV positive senior? > > Hi - the shelter near me in philadelphia has a very lovey kissing > hugging > 10-15 year old senior kitty who just is a total lovebug. His owner died. > > Can anyone take him in? > > He is on the very very sweet side and my bathroom doesn't seem like it's > good enough for this little lovebug. > As far as I know he's not IFA confirmed but if I take him in the > interim, I will make sure he's confirmed. Even a foster would be > appreciated - he's in the urgent list and I'm surprised they even gave > him this long a chance. > > Let me know. > Dana > > * > * > > www.twitter.com/smallspark > > * Share something interesting today.* > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
So sorry for the loss of Patches. I have the same thoughts about Amber as far as her dying from starvation. She was truly just a few days away from death I have no doubt. At least she has a chance and won't die out in the woods. Jannes From: Diane Rosenfeldt To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 6:34:14 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice Yikes. Perhaps this vet should recuse himself from *treating* cats? A vet is actually supposed to know stuff even though he isn't a "_ person." I'm glad you have other choices. When we took our Patches (the reason I am on this list, though he died a few years ago) in for testing (he had just showed up on our doorstep one summer night, demanding our attention, and terribly, terribly matted) our vet told us he was FeLV+, and in the next breath said, "These are your options..." Euthanasia was one of them, of course, but we were happy that she wasn't pushing it, and the other options included seeing how things went and fairly conservative treatment, and since we love animals but are not made of money, we eagerly did that. Things didn't go well, unfortunately, and he became symptomatic -- lymph nodes swollen, stopped eating -- and we let him go. He was such a sweet guy, it still makes me sad to think we didn't have time to really get to know him, and he never got a chance to leave the room we were caring for him in, which he really wanted to do. But we are happy that he came to us because if he had stayed on the street he would have had a much worse end. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice Actually it was a young (early twenties) vet who didn't even know what an IFA test was. He had to go "read up" about FeLV when I was there. He did tell me he was not a "cat person." He was the new kid on the block with the four other vets who are in the same office. Unreal!! I took one of my other cats to the clinic last Saturday for her yearly check-up/vaccines and thank God I saw the vet I like and have seen the most of during the last 8 years. He was sympathetic, but he was extremely concered about exposing my other cats. I do think he would put her down if it was up to him. However, he did not come out and actually say that. It was just the impression I got. I do think I will take Amber to see another vet who is recommened to me when I take her back for retesting. He has his own cat just roaming around in his office during the day. I bet he is a cat person! Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
Yikes. Perhaps this vet should recuse himself from *treating* cats? A vet is actually supposed to know stuff even though he isn't a "_ person." I'm glad you have other choices. When we took our Patches (the reason I am on this list, though he died a few years ago) in for testing (he had just showed up on our doorstep one summer night, demanding our attention, and terribly, terribly matted) our vet told us he was FeLV+, and in the next breath said, "These are your options..." Euthanasia was one of them, of course, but we were happy that she wasn't pushing it, and the other options included seeing how things went and fairly conservative treatment, and since we love animals but are not made of money, we eagerly did that. Things didn't go well, unfortunately, and he became symptomatic -- lymph nodes swollen, stopped eating -- and we let him go. He was such a sweet guy, it still makes me sad to think we didn't have time to really get to know him, and he never got a chance to leave the room we were caring for him in, which he really wanted to do. But we are happy that he came to us because if he had stayed on the street he would have had a much worse end. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice Actually it was a young (early twenties) vet who didn't even know what an IFA test was. He had to go "read up" about FeLV when I was there. He did tell me he was not a "cat person." He was the new kid on the block with the four other vets who are in the same office. Unreal!! I took one of my other cats to the clinic last Saturday for her yearly check-up/vaccines and thank God I saw the vet I like and have seen the most of during the last 8 years. He was sympathetic, but he was extremely concered about exposing my other cats. I do think he would put her down if it was up to him. However, he did not come out and actually say that. It was just the impression I got. I do think I will take Amber to see another vet who is recommened to me when I take her back for retesting. He has his own cat just roaming around in his office during the day. I bet he is a cat person! Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Alright you two - cut it out! It's only been a week and two days since my two year old cat died so it doesn't take much right now to get me bawling like a baby. No, really you guys aren't upsetting me. I think about her a lot anyway. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:00:01 -0700 > From: jannestay...@yahoo.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > I can relate to that! I've had quite a few cats in my 52 years. You never > really > forget no matter how long it has been. > > Jannes > > > > > > From: Natalie > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 4:30:13 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > You're among like-minded people in this group - just this afternoon, I was > sitting with a few cats in my lap, a dog next to me, watching the horrors > happening in Japan. I looked over at one of our cats who looks just like > our old Houdini who die in Novembersuddenly, I started tearfully > remembering details of almost ALL the cats that have died in my > lifetimenow, I have a headache. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 4:56 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > Thanks, Bonnie, > Yes, Amber and I have a connection now but I am very tender hearted and know > it > will be painful if her health gets bad. We had to have our Great Dane put > down > five years ago and I STILL get teary eyed about that. He had cardio myothapy > and > an parasitic infection. > It does warm my heart to see Amber safe, well fed, and adjusting to her new > surroundings. She won't "play" yet, but maybe that will come.. > Jannes > > > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
I can relate to that! I've had quite a few cats in my 52 years. You never really forget no matter how long it has been. Jannes From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 4:30:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. You're among like-minded people in this group - just this afternoon, I was sitting with a few cats in my lap, a dog next to me, watching the horrors happening in Japan. I looked over at one of our cats who looks just like our old Houdini who die in Novembersuddenly, I started tearfully remembering details of almost ALL the cats that have died in my lifetimenow, I have a headache. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 4:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Thanks, Bonnie, Yes, Amber and I have a connection now but I am very tender hearted and know it will be painful if her health gets bad. We had to have our Great Dane put down five years ago and I STILL get teary eyed about that. He had cardio myothapy and an parasitic infection. It does warm my heart to see Amber safe, well fed, and adjusting to her new surroundings. She won't "play" yet, but maybe that will come.. Jannes From: Bonnie Hogue To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 3:12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Jannes You will get (if you haven't already) loads of really great and helpful advice from this group. Personally, I would say, if you have a heart-connection with Amber (which it certainly seems you do) and you are willing to help her enjoy whatever life she had on earth, Go For It! You may be pleasantly surprised by the outcome. And Amber surely will be! Peace, Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Jannes Taylor" To: Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > Hello, > I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said > she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained > weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The >vet > said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not > have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have > three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape >to > the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice > cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the >basement > about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' > tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't > have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to >find > a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to > be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. > I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so >any > comments or ideas are much appreciated. > Jannes > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Find a feather...maybe at a hobby storetease her gently. Also try a catnip spray (forget the powdered stuff) and Feliway. Oh yeah, my boys just reminded me that paper sacks are wonderful. It is always painful when they leave but, if it wasn't, they would mean nothing. On Mar 16, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Jannes Taylor wrote: Thanks, Bonnie, Yes, Amber and I have a connection now but I am very tender hearted and know it will be painful if her health gets bad. We had to have our Great Dane put down five years ago and I STILL get teary eyed about that. He had cardio myothapy and an parasitic infection. It does warm my heart to see Amber safe, well fed, and adjusting to her new surroundings. She won't "play" yet, but maybe that will come.. Jannes From: Bonnie Hogue To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 3:12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Jannes You will get (if you haven't already) loads of really great and helpful advice from this group. Personally, I would say, if you have a heart-connection with Amber (which it certainly seems you do) and you are willing to help her enjoy whatever life she had on earth, Go For It! You may be pleasantly surprised by the outcome. And Amber surely will be! Peace, Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Jannes Taylor" > To: Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
You're among like-minded people in this group - just this afternoon, I was sitting with a few cats in my lap, a dog next to me, watching the horrors happening in Japan. I looked over at one of our cats who looks just like our old Houdini who die in Novembersuddenly, I started tearfully remembering details of almost ALL the cats that have died in my lifetimenow, I have a headache. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 4:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Thanks, Bonnie, Yes, Amber and I have a connection now but I am very tender hearted and know it will be painful if her health gets bad. We had to have our Great Dane put down five years ago and I STILL get teary eyed about that. He had cardio myothapy and an parasitic infection. It does warm my heart to see Amber safe, well fed, and adjusting to her new surroundings. She won't "play" yet, but maybe that will come.. Jannes From: Bonnie Hogue To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 3:12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Jannes You will get (if you haven't already) loads of really great and helpful advice from this group. Personally, I would say, if you have a heart-connection with Amber (which it certainly seems you do) and you are willing to help her enjoy whatever life she had on earth, Go For It! You may be pleasantly surprised by the outcome. And Amber surely will be! Peace, Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Jannes Taylor" To: Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > Hello, > I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said > she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained > weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The >vet > said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not > have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have > three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape >to > the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice > cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the >basement > about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' > tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't > have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to >find > a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to > be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. > I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so >any > comments or ideas are much appreciated. > Jannes > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Thanks, Bonnie, Yes, Amber and I have a connection now but I am very tender hearted and know it will be painful if her health gets bad. We had to have our Great Dane put down five years ago and I STILL get teary eyed about that. He had cardio myothapy and an parasitic infection. It does warm my heart to see Amber safe, well fed, and adjusting to her new surroundings. She won't "play" yet, but maybe that will come.. Jannes From: Bonnie Hogue To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 3:12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Jannes You will get (if you haven't already) loads of really great and helpful advice from this group. Personally, I would say, if you have a heart-connection with Amber (which it certainly seems you do) and you are willing to help her enjoy whatever life she had on earth, Go For It! You may be pleasantly surprised by the outcome. And Amber surely will be! Peace, Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Jannes Taylor" To: Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > Hello, > I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said > she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained > weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The >vet > said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not > have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have > three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape >to > the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice > cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the >basement > about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' > tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't > have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to >find > a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to > be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. > I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so >any > comments or ideas are much appreciated. > Jannes > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Jannes You will get (if you haven't already) loads of really great and helpful advice from this group. Personally, I would say, if you have a heart-connection with Amber (which it certainly seems you do) and you are willing to help her enjoy whatever life she had on earth, Go For It! You may be pleasantly surprised by the outcome. And Amber surely will be! Peace, Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Jannes Taylor" To: Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Transport
Where they going, Kelley? On Mar 16, 2011, at 11:16 AM, POTT, BEVERLY wrote: Here's another one: http://operationroger.rescuegroups.org/ -Original Message- From: Kelley Saveika [mailto:moonv...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:59 PM To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Transport Hi there, Does anyone know anything about transport? I am trying to get these 2 FELV+ kitties to various far flung places (if anyone adopts them - no one has yet). I do not know the first thing about it. Often our adopters have limited funds and cannot afford to pay to transport, and time is of the essence when dealing with this shelter as they kill FELV+ cats first. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can't complain about it, that they can't fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue." - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Transport
Here's another one: http://operationroger.rescuegroups.org/ -Original Message- From: Kelley Saveika [mailto:moonv...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:59 PM To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Transport Hi there, Does anyone know anything about transport? I am trying to get these 2 FELV+ kitties to various far flung places (if anyone adopts them - no one has yet). I do not know the first thing about it. Often our adopters have limited funds and cannot afford to pay to transport, and time is of the essence when dealing with this shelter as they kill FELV+ cats first. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can't complain about it, that they can't fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue." - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey friendly FelV positive senior?
My cat Bob shared the link on his Facebook profile, too... www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1651466497581&set=a.1457687733233.205681 3.1564571765 -Original Message- From: dana giordano [mailto:giordano.d...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey friendly FelV positive senior? Hi - the shelter near me in philadelphia has a very lovey kissing hugging 10-15 year old senior kitty who just is a total lovebug. His owner died. Can anyone take him in? He is on the very very sweet side and my bathroom doesn't seem like it's good enough for this little lovebug. As far as I know he's not IFA confirmed but if I take him in the interim, I will make sure he's confirmed. Even a foster would be appreciated - he's in the urgent list and I'm surprised they even gave him this long a chance. Let me know. Dana * * www.twitter.com/smallspark * Share something interesting today.* ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
That's a good point about vets - some vets are not into cats so don't know much about them aNd dont keep up. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2011, at 9:05 AM, Jannes Taylor wrote: > Actually it was a young (early twenties) vet who didn't even know what an IFA > test was. He had to go "read up" about FeLV when I was there. He did tell me > he > was not a "cat person." He was the new kid on the block with the four other > vets > who are in the same office. Unreal!! > I took one of my other cats to the clinic last Saturday for her yearly > check-up/vaccines and thank God I saw the vet I like and have seen the most > of > during the last 8 years. He was sympathetic, but he was extremely concered > about > exposing my other cats. I do think he would put her down if it was up to him. > However, he did not come out and actually say that. It was just the > impression I > got. > I do think I will take Amber to see another vet who is recommened to me when > I > take her back for retesting. He has his own cat just roaming around in his > office during the day. I bet he is a cat person! > Jannes > > > > > > From: TANYA NOE > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 8:24:56 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice > > I agree with Diane, any vet who recommends euthanasia because a cat is FeLV, > and > for that reason only is not only ignorant but very uneducated in the most > recent > research out there. A lot of the younger vets tend to be a bit more up to > date > and more sympathetic to FeLV cats. > When we found out that our Maggie was positive (we had her snap tested before > we > got her but the clinic did a "batch test" where they took blood from all 4 > kittens, mixed it together and then pulled the 3 drops needed from the > mixture). > I was not aware of this or never would have allowed that to happen. Maggie's > FeLV was too diluted to show positive and her 3 siblings were neg. We did not > find out she was POS until a few months later when she became symptomatic and > we > retested again and also did an IFA. We decided to keep her which the vets > there > were very disapproving of. They believed that all FeLV cats should be > destroyed > so that we could eradicate the disease. While I agree with eradicating the > disease, my little Maggie isn't spreading her disease anywhere as my indoor > kitty. > > Our other kitty is vaccinated against FeLV and we do not keep them separated. > We > count on the vaccine and the natural immunities cats develop as they age to > keep > Sasha safe, and so far so good. We made the decision to mix after talking to > everyone on here and getting their advice first too. > Good luck with what ever you do. > Tanya > > --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: > >> From: Diane Rosenfeldt >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 7:31 PM >> Wow, Jannes. The vet advocating >> euthanization is a warning sign not to let >> him/her treat this particular cat. She is obviously not up >> to date on the >> latest research and you need all the knowledge you can get >> to maintain >> Amber's good health. You might consider calling around to >> different vets and >> see what their feeling is about FeLV care. If you know of >> some vets who >> treat shelter cats, they may be a good place to start >> because they will have >> encountered it before. >> >> Best of luck with Amber. I personally hope you choose to >> vaccinate the >> others and let her commingle, but that's me and not you. >> ;-) >> >> Diane R. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] >> On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor >> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:55 AM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice >> >> I want to thank everyone who responded about my post >> regarding Amber, my >> FeLV positive cat. >> I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the >> health of my other >> cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan >> to be cautious but >> do feel less stressed about it. >> I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is >> nothing like being >> able to get advice from folks who have experienced this >> situation. >> The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her >> test came back >> positive. >> I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy >> cat. I want to give >> her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come >> back negative. >> >> Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her >> from starving to death. >> She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting >> every chance I get! >> She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how >> she sits at the >> top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
Actually it was a young (early twenties) vet who didn't even know what an IFA test was. He had to go "read up" about FeLV when I was there. He did tell me he was not a "cat person." He was the new kid on the block with the four other vets who are in the same office. Unreal!! I took one of my other cats to the clinic last Saturday for her yearly check-up/vaccines and thank God I saw the vet I like and have seen the most of during the last 8 years. He was sympathetic, but he was extremely concered about exposing my other cats. I do think he would put her down if it was up to him. However, he did not come out and actually say that. It was just the impression I got. I do think I will take Amber to see another vet who is recommened to me when I take her back for retesting. He has his own cat just roaming around in his office during the day. I bet he is a cat person! Jannes From: TANYA NOE To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 8:24:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice I agree with Diane, any vet who recommends euthanasia because a cat is FeLV, and for that reason only is not only ignorant but very uneducated in the most recent research out there. A lot of the younger vets tend to be a bit more up to date and more sympathetic to FeLV cats. When we found out that our Maggie was positive (we had her snap tested before we got her but the clinic did a "batch test" where they took blood from all 4 kittens, mixed it together and then pulled the 3 drops needed from the mixture). I was not aware of this or never would have allowed that to happen. Maggie's FeLV was too diluted to show positive and her 3 siblings were neg. We did not find out she was POS until a few months later when she became symptomatic and we retested again and also did an IFA. We decided to keep her which the vets there were very disapproving of. They believed that all FeLV cats should be destroyed so that we could eradicate the disease. While I agree with eradicating the disease, my little Maggie isn't spreading her disease anywhere as my indoor kitty. Our other kitty is vaccinated against FeLV and we do not keep them separated. We count on the vaccine and the natural immunities cats develop as they age to keep Sasha safe, and so far so good. We made the decision to mix after talking to everyone on here and getting their advice first too. Good luck with what ever you do. Tanya --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: > From: Diane Rosenfeldt > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 7:31 PM > Wow, Jannes. The vet advocating > euthanization is a warning sign not to let > him/her treat this particular cat. She is obviously not up > to date on the > latest research and you need all the knowledge you can get > to maintain > Amber's good health. You might consider calling around to > different vets and > see what their feeling is about FeLV care. If you know of > some vets who > treat shelter cats, they may be a good place to start > because they will have > encountered it before. > > Best of luck with Amber. I personally hope you choose to > vaccinate the > others and let her commingle, but that's me and not you. > ;-) > > Diane R. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] > On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:55 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice > > I want to thank everyone who responded about my post > regarding Amber, my > FeLV positive cat. > I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the > health of my other > cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan > to be cautious but > do feel less stressed about it. > I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is > nothing like being > able to get advice from folks who have experienced this > situation. > The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her > test came back > positive. > I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy > cat. I want to give > her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come > back negative. > > Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her > from starving to death. > She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting > every chance I get! > She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how > she sits at the > top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it > is, I guess. At > least for now... > I would love to hear from more folks regarding this > subject. > Thanks you all and God Bless!! > Jannes > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Cats do develop a type of natural immunity to FeLV after the age of one, so cats that are over 3 are less likely to develop FelV even if they are not vaccinated. Add the vaccine and they are even less likely to get it. This is most likely why so many of us have had such good lick with mixing our kids. Tanya --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Beth wrote: > From: Beth > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 10:37 AM > I worked a hoarding case with 26 > unvaccinated cats. 3 of them turned out to be FeLV positive. > We quarantined the remaining cats for 6 months & none > showed up FeLV positive after the 6 months. I was amazed. > > Beth > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org > > --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Maureen Olvey > wrote: > > From: Maureen Olvey > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 10:48 PM > > > My FIV cat has never been vaccinated against FeLV which is > why I assumed he would get it from the other kitty. > Doesn't make sense. Oh well, I'm glad he didn't get it. > > Maureen > > > > > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > From: create_me_...@yahoo.com > > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 02:26:16 + > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > > My FIV cat lived on and off for 10 years with FeLV > cats & never got it. Of coarse he was vaccinated. > > Beth > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Maureen Olvey > > Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:18:40 > > To: > > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > > > > Matter of fact, I have an FIV + cat living with me > that hasn't contracted the FeLV. I'm not quite sure how > that has happened because he should have gotten it right > away. I'm going to have him tested a couple more times > over the next few months to be sure. Maybe FeLV isn't as > contagious as they say. I'm still shaking my head on that > one. > > > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection > produces results that are profitable to the human race or > doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting > animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking > further.” – Mark Twain > > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 > > > From: jgonza...@pacbell.net > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > > > > I realize now that I did not address the concern > you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the > testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you > cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with > the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic > until they test positive on the IFA test. > > > > > > If it turns out the cat you rescued is really > FELV positive, she is not going to transmit the virus to > your other cats through some chance encounter. It would > take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them > with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it > does not mean your other cats would get the virus. Some > cats are able to build an immune response and fight off the > virus. I rescued a cat over the summer that tested > positive on the combo snap test and the ELISA test but > tested negative on the IFA. Thirty days later, he tested > negative on the snap test, the ELISA test and continued to > test negative on the IFA test. As a precaution, we tested > again 30 days later, and he continued to test negative on > all three tests. His body built an immune defense and > fought off the virus > > > > > > --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor > wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: Jannes Taylor > > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:50 PM > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the > vet a week ago and they said > > > she was FELV positive. She was starving when I > found her, but she has gained > > > weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten > and she seems healthy. The vet > > > said she was about a year old. She only weighed > six pounds last week. I did not > > > have the heart to euthanize her when she is not > suffering. However, I have > > > three healthy cats upstairs and I live in > constant fear that they will escape to > > > the basement where this cat we now call Amber is > staying. I keep her in a nice > > > cage during most of the time and let her out to > get her exercise in the basement > > > about four hours per day. My husband is building > her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' > > > tall cage so she will have more room I do hate > keeping her caged up, but don't > > > have a choice. She is ver
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
I agree with Diane, any vet who recommends euthanasia because a cat is FeLV, and for that reason only is not only ignorant but very uneducated in the most recent research out there. A lot of the younger vets tend to be a bit more up to date and more sympathetic to FeLV cats. When we found out that our Maggie was positive (we had her snap tested before we got her but the clinic did a "batch test" where they took blood from all 4 kittens, mixed it together and then pulled the 3 drops needed from the mixture). I was not aware of this or never would have allowed that to happen. Maggie's FeLV was too diluted to show positive and her 3 siblings were neg. We did not find out she was POS until a few months later when she became symptomatic and we retested again and also did an IFA. We decided to keep her which the vets there were very disapproving of. They believed that all FeLV cats should be destroyed so that we could eradicate the disease. While I agree with eradicating the disease, my little Maggie isn't spreading her disease anywhere as my indoor kitty. Our other kitty is vaccinated against FeLV and we do not keep them separated. We count on the vaccine and the natural immunities cats develop as they age to keep Sasha safe, and so far so good. We made the decision to mix after talking to everyone on here and getting their advice first too. Good luck with what ever you do. Tanya --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: > From: Diane Rosenfeldt > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 7:31 PM > Wow, Jannes. The vet advocating > euthanization is a warning sign not to let > him/her treat this particular cat. She is obviously not up > to date on the > latest research and you need all the knowledge you can get > to maintain > Amber's good health. You might consider calling around to > different vets and > see what their feeling is about FeLV care. If you know of > some vets who > treat shelter cats, they may be a good place to start > because they will have > encountered it before. > > Best of luck with Amber. I personally hope you choose to > vaccinate the > others and let her commingle, but that's me and not you. > ;-) > > Diane R. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] > On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:55 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice > > I want to thank everyone who responded about my post > regarding Amber, my > FeLV positive cat. > I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the > health of my other > cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan > to be cautious but > do feel less stressed about it. > I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is > nothing like being > able to get advice from folks who have experienced this > situation. > The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her > test came back > positive. > I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy > cat. I want to give > her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come > back negative. > > Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her > from starving to death. > She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting > every chance I get! > She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how > she sits at the > top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it > is, I guess. At > least for now... > I would love to hear from more folks regarding this > subject. > Thanks you all and God Bless!! > Jannes > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] laser
Not that new. I live in a rural area now and have known about lazers for several years. At least one practise here has spent the money for one. A lot of vets are using it for spays and neuters because it cuts down on bleeding and recovery time. They are also using it on declaws which has really improved them (I know there are different opinions and different circumstances but if you have to do it, do it with the least pain to the cat as possible). On Mar 16, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Lorrie wrote: On 03-15, MaiMaiPG wrote: laser helps reduce the stress Laser spay? I don't think our one and only vet clinic does this. Is it a fairly new proceedure? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey friendly FelV positive senior?
If a cat is to be relinquished to any organization please do remember to ask questions on funding, nonprofit status, how many cats they have, how long they live, do they separate FIV from FeLV, do they medicate, etc or this cat may end up in such a good situation where a bathroom is preferred. Good intentions are great but follow up with questions and an actual visit in person to the organization is important or what is the point. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant?
I think you may be absolutely right on this. Many lions in Africa have been found to be FIV+ - and yet, they are not dying from it like flies...but then, of course, FIV is a much more manageable virus than FeLV. There's so little we now about all this - the "practice" of medicine is still practicing on all of us and our animals., that's why I lean toward alternatives a lot. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane Biagi Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:06 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? I got my Tucson as a kitten--had her tested at around 2 months & she was neg. 4 1/2 years later she was feeling poorly & a very sharp vet redid test after her blood work showed lower than normal white blood count. And sure enough she tested positive (on Snap & IFA). She had never been outside since the first date we rescued out of a wall in an apt, had never been sick & is still around, little 17 lb porker that she is. Did a lot research since then & talked to several vets basically, test is good but not foolproof & virus may hide for a long time... One vet told me the closest you could come to really verifying test would be to do a retest at 1 year..not a viable option. But for me, the most significant comment I ever received was the person who pointed out that FELV is an ANCIENT virus & probably around since dinosaurs. If it were anywhere near as lethal & contagious as we've been led to believe, we would have no domestic cats left. Bottom line, between the testing issues & my own experiences with my 2 FELV+ cats, my guess is that there are a whole lot of cats out there living quite normal lives who are pos but nobody knows it. Remember, these cats don't die from the virus but rather from certain cancers or URIs or UTIs or any sort of infection. How can we ever know whether the cats we all had as kids (when nobody ever went to the vet-LOL) who died from some illness weren't positive? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? My reply to this got bounced because it was too big a file but I want to say it again just in case it doesn't get posted to the list. I think it's important for foster parents to know that one combo test cannot be trusted. I have had every cat or kitten that came into my house combo tested before I ever exposed them to the rest of the cats. From the first cat I ever took in to the very last. They all showed negative for FeLV before I took them. Even the kitty that died was negative on her first combo test that was done almost two years ago. It's kind of scary to know that. You could take in a FeLV positive kitty that tested negative on her first test and not even know it. We have that statement in our adoption contract that not all diseases will show at the time of the first test so we cannot 100% guarantee the health of each cat. But it's so easy to assume that if they tested negative once then it's true. I learned my lesson. > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:43:23 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? > > The moral of the story is that all cats coming into a home or foster > home where there are other cats, must be combo tested! It's not a huge > expense in the big scheme of things, but necessary! > That's how I always feel - if a good home cannot be found, the cats > stays hereand sometimes, a really good adopter who doesn't > necessarily want a kitten comes along and wants an older cat! It's so > much harder parting with a cat that has been here for a while than > parting with kittens. I have also learned a hard lesson to never > separate two cats that are really good friends! > Good luck with finding a good home! > Natalie > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen > Olvey > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:59 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? > > > I think you're right. I couldn't adopt out to a person without telling > them everything. It's not right to do that and I would feel so guilty. > Then it's their decision as to whether they want him or not. The kitty > did test negative yesterday so there's hope he won't or doesn't have > it but time will tell. Yeah, I think I'll just try to find him a home > as the only cat. If I can't find him a home, he can stay with me. I've > already decided to keep most of my fosters since I found out so what's one more as they say! > > Thanks for your input. You kind of confirmed what I had
Re: [Felvtalk] laser
the clinic I worked at in PA before we moved to NH last Aug. has been using laser for 1.5-2 years. It is great. Less bleeding because the laser seals vessels as it cuts, less bruising because it doesn't tear through the skin like a scalpel. The animals seem to be less painful and seem to recover faster. Worth the drive if you can find one somewhere near you. Tanya --- On Wed, 3/16/11, Lorrie wrote: > From: Lorrie > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] laser > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 8:00 AM > On 03-15, MaiMaiPG wrote: > > laser helps reduce the stress > > Laser spay? I don't think our one and only > vet clinic does this. Is it a fairly new proceedure? > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] laser
On 03-15, MaiMaiPG wrote: > laser helps reduce the stress Laser spay? I don't think our one and only vet clinic does this. Is it a fairly new proceedure? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
I recently had a FelV female spayed and she came thru the proceedure just fine. I too was afraid to do it, but I'm glad I did as she is a happier cat. Lorrie >On 03-15, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: > Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less > uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for > them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with > FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too > stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be > (kitty Prozac?). > > Diane R. > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Transport
You could also try Pilots N Paws, they help transport pets to new homes. Also, just Google "pilots pet rescue" and there are a few other resources listed. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2011, at 12:04 AM, dana giordano wrote: I found this via facebook that my contacts have friended. Maybe they can help you. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Take-Me-Home-Animal-Rescue-Transports/191304693761 * * www.twitter.com/smallspark * Share something interesting today.* On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: Hi there, Does anyone know anything about transport? I am trying to get these 2 FELV+ kitties to various far flung places (if anyone adopts them - no one has yet). I do not know the first thing about it. Often our adopters have limited funds and cannot afford to pay to transport, and time is of the essence when dealing with this shelter as they kill FELV+ cats first. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue." - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
