Re: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne
Has your vet done a complete blood panel on her? You might be able to find a clue to her problem. Also complete urine test would help. These will help identify a problem. Since cats are so good at hiding illness, we sometimes need to go to extemes. It costs, but may be less in the long runsince you find out fast what is wrong and needs to be done. As to food, I have found that Gerber's baby food (check first to be sure there is on onion or garlic in it) is easier to feed and my girls have responded to that. Also, add hot water to canned food. My girls and boy seem to prefer the liquid to eating the meat. At least they get some nutrition. Also, has your vet said anything about doing sub q fluids? I had to do that with Lil Bit after I first got her. Se was stressed out, had a ragged coat, no luster and had lost weight. After a little over 1 - 1/2 weeks, she responded and has been fine since. Giving her fluids wasn't very hard. The vet gave me a bag of fluids and needles and told me how to do it. The heardest part was sticking her with the needle but I remimded myself I was doing it for her benefit. If she is stressed out, maybe keep her seperate from the others for a while and give her lots of extra attention and loving to reassure her that she is loved. Then reintroduce her to the others and see how it goes then. These ae all tihngs I have done with my pride. Good luck! czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com wrote: BreAnne is just short of 2 yoa; spayed. She was the playmate of ToriRose who succumbed to Fe leukemia 2.2010. BreAnne tested + at that time. Isaac left 2.2011. I gathered everyone else up and moved them into my apartment from the country when Isaac left. BreAnne was/is an assertive female. Isaac used to terrorize Scrumptious in a major way. BreAnne and Scrumptious show little mercy for each other. There are now 6 cats. Cats are shedding. BreAnne's tail and rear legs look as if she has a bad case of the fleas. When I flea comb her she continues to lose a lot of fur. there are no fleas. there is now no luster in her fur. Bowel movements look okay. this past Saturday I continued the follow-up ELISA testing. The 2 originally negative cats are still negative and I vaccinated them. I asked the vet to look at BreAnne. He commented on her ratty, looking dry coat, said she had a temperature (but that it may have been due to the long ride up). I have no explanation about why I didn't ask how high or about starting her on an antibiotic. We started everyone on Petzlife oral gel (thank you Natalie) a couple weeks ago. He said her mouth looked good. BreAnne has been losing weight, not eating well. I follow her around with the food and draw her attention to it. She won't eat anything containing the usual supplements we use. I have been hydrating some orally and giving some NutriCal. She has been hanging out under the bathroom sink cabinet in the darkness. Easter Sunday I was able to be home all day and let Scrumptious out (since she is negative). I guess writing this is about getting ready maybe to let her go. The cat she is today in no way resembles her picture of 16 months ago. Stress for her? Her Grieving the loss of Isaac? She was really, really thin about 9 months ago but came back from it naturally. will leave it there. any comments will be appreciated czadna ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
I agree, lots of love , good food and as stress free a life as you can give them. So far, Annie is going on 8 years, the last 4 with me and she is healthy as can be. Nitnoy is on her 2nd year with me. She was feral and had her tale bitten off by a raccoon a few days before I actually found her. Now she is healthy, well fed and happy and learning how to trust and be loved. Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com wrote: First off THERE IS NO CURE for FeLV. I have heard of all kinds of things that are supposed to give great extensions of life to cats with FeLV, but have yet to see any kind of results. After 8 years of specializing in nothing but Fe-Luk cats i have found that, love, attention, basic supplements ( iron,L-lysine, and the like) are the best treatments for them. Adding things like high O2 water helps as well.( moving water not in a bowl). I know that many are going to say things like interferon, transfusions and like are good for them but they only prolong the inevitable. This virus will at some point in the cats life cause issues that will have grave consequences. Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Roseann Fitzgerald cop...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Michael, have you heard about this pro or con? -- Sent from ATT's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:38:37 AM GMT-0700 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Tanya, are you talking about the seniors at TLAC in Austin, Sunny and Weston? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil At least with hydrogen peroxide, it is known to cure human cancers and is used in Europe and Mexico...it can be taken orally or given by IV. Apparently, cancer cannot exist in all oxygen, and hydrogen peroxide oxygenatesI am still searching. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil It truly amazes me that ppl pray on others that are so desperate to find a cure. If it were that easy, all of us would be informed. We just have to use the common sense that the dear Lord gave us. Amen Lynda - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I have never heard of this, but we started using coconut oil because it tolerates higher temperatures than other oils before becoming saturated fat. Where and who is this man, Mark McCandlish - what does he do? I read that hydrogen peroxide can cure FeLV - but have yet to find anything on it anywhere. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of TANYA NOE Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, a woman on FB is claiming that coconut oil given for approximately 4 weeks will cure a cat with FeLV. I wrote to her and told her that there was in fact no cure and she told me to talk to a man named Mark McCandlish, though there are several so I was not able to look him up. I am a licensed vet tech and am constantly researching FeLV and have not seen anything of the sort out there. One would think if a cure would have popped up that it would be talked about everywhere especially by the FeLV cat parents crowd. I find it frustrating when people post information on FB under cats that are in need of homes and do not have their facts straight. They are either sharing that FeLV is this freakishly contagious disease and that all FeLV cats must be kept separate or euthanized or they are spouting about cures. Those of us who have FeLV babies and are praying for that cure to save them don't want that fake carrot dangled in front of our faces. Anyway sorry for the rant, I just wanted to be sure I am not out of the loop before I keep arguing with her about it. Also there are 2 beautiful, sweet cats in Austin TX who are felv + and in need of a home asap. If anyone may be interested please let me know and I will forward the link with the info and pics. They are incredibly sweet and
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Re: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne
Fluids: Before I insert the needle (very quickly), I pick up the fold of skin and massage/knead it for a while between my fingers and when I stick in the needle, the cat doesn't even know it. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 2:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne Has your vet done a complete blood panel on her? You might be able to find a clue to her problem. Also complete urine test would help. These will help identify a problem. Since cats are so good at hiding illness, we sometimes need to go to extemes. It costs, but may be less in the long runsince you find out fast what is wrong and needs to be done. As to food, I have found that Gerber's baby food (check first to be sure there is on onion or garlic in it) is easier to feed and my girls have responded to that. Also, add hot water to canned food. My girls and boy seem to prefer the liquid to eating the meat. At least they get some nutrition. Also, has your vet said anything about doing sub q fluids? I had to do that with Lil Bit after I first got her. Se was stressed out, had a ragged coat, no luster and had lost weight. After a little over 1 - 1/2 weeks, she responded and has been fine since. Giving her fluids wasn't very hard. The vet gave me a bag of fluids and needles and told me how to do it. The heardest part was sticking her with the needle but I remimded myself I was doing it for her benefit. If she is stressed out, maybe keep her seperate from the others for a while and give her lots of extra attention and loving to reassure her that she is loved. Then reintroduce her to the others and see how it goes then. These ae all tihngs I have done with my pride. Good luck! czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com wrote: BreAnne is just short of 2 yoa; spayed. She was the playmate of ToriRose who succumbed to Fe leukemia 2.2010. BreAnne tested + at that time. Isaac left 2.2011. I gathered everyone else up and moved them into my apartment from the country when Isaac left. BreAnne was/is an assertive female. Isaac used to terrorize Scrumptious in a major way. BreAnne and Scrumptious show little mercy for each other. There are now 6 cats. Cats are shedding. BreAnne's tail and rear legs look as if she has a bad case of the fleas. When I flea comb her she continues to lose a lot of fur. there are no fleas. there is now no luster in her fur. Bowel movements look okay. this past Saturday I continued the follow-up ELISA testing. The 2 originally negative cats are still negative and I vaccinated them. I asked the vet to look at BreAnne. He commented on her ratty, looking dry coat, said she had a temperature (but that it may have been due to the long ride up). I have no explanation about why I didn't ask how high or about starting her on an antibiotic. We started everyone on Petzlife oral gel (thank you Natalie) a couple weeks ago. He said her mouth looked good. BreAnne has been losing weight, not eating well. I follow her around with the food and draw her attention to it. She won't eat anything containing the usual supplements we use. I have been hydrating some orally and giving some NutriCal. She has been hanging out under the bathroom sink cabinet in the darkness. Easter Sunday I was able to be home all day and let Scrumptious out (since she is negative). I guess writing this is about getting ready maybe to let her go. The cat she is today in no way resembles her picture of 16 months ago. Stress for her? Her Grieving the loss of Isaac? She was really, really thin about 9 months ago but came back from it naturally. will leave it there. any comments will be appreciated czadna ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
Duct Tape removes warts, too, LOL. Now I'm really off the subject! Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Thu, 4/28/11, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, April 28, 2011, 10:27 PM It can also remove warts, if applied daily for about a week. ~B. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 6:40 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil But then, you must dilute it even more - must have exact instructions on how to do it, how to use it, and store it. Here, the site I listed previously and: 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide, buy food grade hydrogen peroxide, benefits of food grade hydrogen peroxide, food grade hydrogen peroxide uses Ads35% F.G. Hydrogen Peroxide Specials on 35% Food Grade h2o2 - Discounted prices - Fast shipping! www.Pureh2o2ForHealth.com Find 35% Food Grade H2o2? Where can I buy 35% Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide? www.curezone123.com -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Roseann Fitzgerald Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 7:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Where do people get it? -- Sent from ATT's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 7:05:56 PM GMT-0400 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Definitely - she'd be dead if he didn't! You can search for Food grade hydrogen peroxide - it's dangerous stuff to store...must be in the freezer, unless it's been diluted for ingestion. http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=Food+grade+hydrogen+peroxide -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of C PQ Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil FYI: hydrogen peroxide should only be ingested as food grade, not the stuff you buy at the drug store or supermarket. I kept reading about the wonders of hp, and I use it to clean everything --it's great. But in all the articles I read extolling it's wonders, none of them mentioned that you need to use food grade if you plan to put it INTO your body. I'm assuming the doc is injecting her with the good stuff. - Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. http://www.bluesecurity.com/register/s?user=Y3BxMzc0NQ%3D%3D From: gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:50:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I live in Arkansas. I know there are some quacks out there, but I always appreciate the folks who study and offer alternative treatments, as our environment in the USA isn't very supportive of that. Wish there was more research into this area. I've used a number of alternative treatments, and have witnessed folks I know who've gotten cancer, looking at something to help. I sure hope your friend finds a way. It's been a long time since I've looked into this, but ozone is also used for similar purposes as H2O2. Gloria - Original Message - From: Roseann Fitzgerald cop...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil My friend moved to Arkansaw several years ago. She has contracted Rocky Mountain Fever and is very sick. Nothing is helping. She is now seeing a holistic doctor and he is giving her hydrogen peroxide IV's. Rocky Mountain Fever can become cancer. -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk
