Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
On 09-08, MaiMaiPG wrote: I have a close friend who is as much an animal lover as I am who will handle it. It would be a great comfort to have a friend like that. Lucky you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
On 09-08, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I WOULD NOT GO TO HUMANE SOCIETY, ESPECIALLY IF ANY OF MY CATS ARE FELV OR FIV POSITIVE. THEY WOULD PUT THEM TO SLEEP WITHOUT EVEN TRYING TO FIND A HOME WILLING TO TAKE THEM. None of my cats are FelV or FIV, but our humane society here sucks. Pardon the expression. There are only about 8 active members and they all love dogs. Cats are totally ignored. I joined years ago, but dropped out when I found out how little help they give cats. Lorrie Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: If money isn't the problem, why not contact the Humane Society or another non-profit animal organization. You could leave your property to the organization with the stipulation that your animals be cared for (and you could define what that means). If you are wealthy enough, you may even provide a salary to a care taker. When the animals are gone from the world, then the property conveys to the organization. Thoughts being (a) they are organized enough to handle such a thing, (b) they are ethical enough not to 'off the kitties' to get the 'goodies' and (c) as an organization it takes the worry out of finding someone because they are set up, trained and should be very willing to do this. I'd talk with them (whomever you think is appropriate). For most of us, it is not just finding a trustworthy care giver, it's having enough money to provide for them and the cats. If you have property (and other wealth) this could make all the difference for your feline family. I don't know about you, but I always feel nobody loves them like I do...which may be true, but to ensure they're cared for is a burden relieved. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
On 09-08, Bonnie Hogue wrote: For most of us, it is not just finding a trustworthy care giver, it's having enough money to provide for them and the cats. If you have property (and other wealth) this could make all the difference for your feline family. I don't know about you, but I always feel nobody loves them like I do...which may be true, but to ensure they're cared for is a burden relieved. ~Bonnie I know what you mean about thinking no one can love them like I do, and I also worry about someone taking what money they get for each cat and then dumping the cat and spending the money. I am not wealthy, just comfortable from a small inheritance my parents left me. I have to be careful with my money, but I have enough saved up for the care of my cats. It's the person who will care for them that's my huge concern. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
Lorrie - I'll pack my bags and be right up. Living on a lake taking care of cats sounds awesome. I'm 45 so hopefully will be around until all your cats die! Give me driving directions!!! I'm a CPA so can work to keep your cats in the lifestyle they're accustomed to living. Ok, just kidding. Wish I could take off sometimes. I've got a lot of cats too, but unless something tragic happens hopefully I'll outlive them. It's scary to think about the future though because you just don't know what will happen and when. I've missed a lot of this thread so I might have missed something but if you're 78, then you could still outlive your cats. My Grandmother is 92 and lives in a small apartment on her own. Best to make plans now of course but by the time you're gone who knows what the situation will be. Tell your kids that you're leaving your house and money to them so between the three of them they could make room for all the cats! Fifteen cats split three ways is no big deal. Cats are pretty easy. Tell them they could close in their garage or build an extra room with your money and then enclose an area of their yard for the cats to go in and that's all the cats would need. Tell them if they don't you're writing them out of your will! sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC - Reply message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Date: Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:54 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org On 09-08, Gloria Lane wrote: I'm kindly pondering how to do that. Any web sites that address that I wonder? There are many cat sanctuaries listed on the web, but most are full. Then too, many fail and become like hoarding places because they take in too many cats to care for properly. It is truly difficult to find a good sanctuary, but I'll keep trying. If I knew who would take care of my 15 cats I'd give them my house which is a lovely home in a resort area on a lake. It has been built around the needs of my cats, and has three outside enclosures they can access from the inside via cat flaps. It is also in the woods on several acres with no traffic. It is a paradise for my cats, and I just wish someone could let them continue the happy life they know and love. I will not go to my grave and be at peace until I know my babies are taken care of. Lorrie On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:00 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and whatever may show up) in my will. Everything is in trust to be used for their care until they all leave this world. WHO WILL HANDLE YOUR TRUST AND BE SURE YOUR CATS ARE CARED FOR? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
Not all humane societies are that bad and some will take in less than perfect cats but you really have to look and get to know the people in the humane society. See how they've handled situations before and if they take in older or FeLV or FIV cats when they run across them. There are several ladies in my humane society that I would not have a problem letting my cats go to because they're awesome and as picky as I am about finding the right homes for them. I'm pretty lucky with my humane society. In general they're great folks and really really love the animals. I've worked with them for eight years so I know them all well. sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC - Reply message - From: dlgegg dlg...@windstream.net Date: Fri, Sep 9, 2011 12:16 am Subject: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I WOULDNOT GO TO HUMANE SOCIETY, ESPEIALLY IF ANY OF MY CATS ARE FELV OR FIV POSITIVE. THEY WOULD PUT THEM TO SLEEP WITHOUT EVEN TRYING TO FIND A HOME WILLING TO TAKE THEM. Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: If money isn't the problem, why not contact the Humane Society or another non-profit animal organization. You could leave your property to the organization with the stipulation that your animals be cared for (and you could define what that means). If you are wealthy enough, you may even provide a salary to a care taker. When the animals are gone from the world, then the property conveys to the organization. Thoughts being (a) they are organized enough to handle such a thing, (b) they are ethical enough not to 'off the kitties' to get the 'goodies' and (c) as an organization it takes the worry out of finding someone because they are set up, trained and should be very willing to do this. I'd talk with them (whomever you think is appropriate). For most of us, it is not just finding a trustworthy care giver, it's having enough money to provide for them and the cats. If you have property (and other wealth) this could make all the difference for your feline family. I don't know about you, but I always feel nobody loves them like I do...which may be true, but to ensure they're cared for is a burden relieved. ~Bonnie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) I have provided for my cats in my will too. There is plenty of money for their care, but WHO WILL TAKE CARE OF THEM? With 15 cats this is the problem. Not the money. . On 09-08, MaiMaiPG wrote: I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and whatever may show up) in my will. Everything is in trust to be used for their care until they all leave this world. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
Lorrie, I like the way Maureen thinks! I can help Maureen take care of all of your cats, I love her idea even though she's kidding. It would be a great place to retire and between the two of us, we can take care of all the furry babies! Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0) L - Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: Lorrie ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) Lorrie - I'll pack my bags and be right up. Living on a lake taking care of cats sounds awesome. I'm 45 so hopefully will be around until all your cats die! Give me driving directions!!! I'm a CPA so can work to keep your cats in the lifestyle they're accustomed to living. Ok, just kidding. Wish I could take off sometimes. I've got a lot of cats too, but unless something tragic happens hopefully I'll outlive them. It's scary to think about the future though because you just don't know what will happen and when. I've missed a lot of this thread so I might have missed something but if you're 78, then you could still outlive your cats. My Grandmother is 92 and lives in a small apartment on her own. Best to make plans now of course but by the time you're gone who knows what the situation will be. Tell your kids that you're leaving your house and money to them so between the three of them they could make room for all the cats! Fifteen cats split three ways is no big deal. Cats are pretty easy. Tell them they could close in their garage or build an extra room with your money and then enclose an area of their yard for the cats to go in and that's all the cats would need. Tell them if they don't you're writing them out of your will! sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC - Reply message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Date: Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:54 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org On 09-08, Gloria Lane wrote: I'm kindly pondering how to do that. Any web sites that address that I wonder? There are many cat sanctuaries listed on the web, but most are full. Then too, many fail and become like hoarding places because they take in too many cats to care for properly. It is truly difficult to find a good sanctuary, but I'll keep trying. If I knew who would take care of my 15 cats I'd give them my house which is a lovely home in a resort area on a lake. It has been built around the needs of my cats, and has three outside enclosures they can access from the inside via cat flaps. It is also in the woods on several acres with no traffic. It is a paradise for my cats, and I just wish someone could let them continue the happy life they know and love. I will not go to my grave and be at peace until I know my babies are taken care of. Lorrie On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:00 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and whatever may show up) in my will. Everything is in trust to be used for their care until they all leave this world. WHO WILL HANDLE YOUR TRUST AND BE SURE YOUR CATS ARE CARED FOR? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
See Lorrie - now everything has been worked out! So tell your three kids if they don't get off their butts and offer to take your babies in that you're going to have two strange women (well, I'm strange anyway) living in your house taking care of your animals. And we're not going to let them come enjoy the lake either!!! And people wonder why I don't have kids. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) Lorrie, I like the way Maureen thinks! I can help Maureen take care of all of your cats, I love her idea even though she's kidding. It would be a great place to retire and between the two of us, we can take care of all the furry babies! Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0) L - Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: Lorrie ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) Lorrie - I'll pack my bags and be right up. Living on a lake taking care of cats sounds awesome. I'm 45 so hopefully will be around until all your cats die! Give me driving directions!!! I'm a CPA so can work to keep your cats in the lifestyle they're accustomed to living. Ok, just kidding. Wish I could take off sometimes. I've got a lot of cats too, but unless something tragic happens hopefully I'll outlive them. It's scary to think about the future though because you just don't know what will happen and when. I've missed a lot of this thread so I might have missed something but if you're 78, then you could still outlive your cats. My Grandmother is 92 and lives in a small apartment on her own. Best to make plans now of course but by the time you're gone who knows what the situation will be. Tell your kids that you're leaving your house and money to them so between the three of them they could make room for all the cats! Fifteen cats split three ways is no big deal. Cats are pretty easy. Tell them they could close in their garage or build an extra room with your money and then enclose an area of their yard for the cats to go in and that's all the cats would need. Tell them if they don't you're writing them out of your will! sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC - Reply message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Date: Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:54 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org On 09-08, Gloria Lane wrote: I'm kindly pondering how to do that. Any web sites that address that I wonder? There are many cat sanctuaries listed on the web, but most are full. Then too, many fail and become like hoarding places because they take in too many cats to care for properly. It is truly difficult to find a good sanctuary, but I'll keep trying. If I knew who would take care of my 15 cats I'd give them my house which is a lovely home in a resort area on a lake. It has been built around the needs of my cats, and has three outside enclosures they can access from the inside via cat flaps. It is also in the woods on several acres with no traffic. It is a paradise for my cats, and I just wish someone could let them continue the happy life they know and love. I will not go to my grave and be at peace until I know my babies are taken care of. Lorrie On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:00 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and whatever may show up) in my will. Everything is in trust to be used for their care until they all leave this world. WHO WILL HANDLE YOUR TRUST AND BE SURE YOUR CATS ARE CARED FOR? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
Lynda - a house on the lake in a resort type atomsphere - I say leave the husbands behind and enjoy ourselves. With two of us we'd have time to take care of the cats and still have fun! Man - just sitting outside on the lake watching the cats play in the enclosures sounds so relaxing. I'm ready to move right now. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) Lorrie, I like the way Maureen thinks! I can help Maureen take care of all of your cats, I love her idea even though she's kidding. It would be a great place to retire and between the two of us, we can take care of all the furry babies! Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0) L - Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: Lorrie ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) Lorrie - I'll pack my bags and be right up. Living on a lake taking care of cats sounds awesome. I'm 45 so hopefully will be around until all your cats die! Give me driving directions!!! I'm a CPA so can work to keep your cats in the lifestyle they're accustomed to living. Ok, just kidding. Wish I could take off sometimes. I've got a lot of cats too, but unless something tragic happens hopefully I'll outlive them. It's scary to think about the future though because you just don't know what will happen and when. I've missed a lot of this thread so I might have missed something but if you're 78, then you could still outlive your cats. My Grandmother is 92 and lives in a small apartment on her own. Best to make plans now of course but by the time you're gone who knows what the situation will be. Tell your kids that you're leaving your house and money to them so between the three of them they could make room for all the cats! Fifteen cats split three ways is no big deal. Cats are pretty easy. Tell them they could close in their garage or build an extra room with your money and then enclose an area of their yard for the cats to go in and that's all the cats would need. Tell them if they don't you're writing them out of your will! sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC - Reply message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Date: Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:54 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org On 09-08, Gloria Lane wrote: I'm kindly pondering how to do that. Any web sites that address that I wonder? There are many cat sanctuaries listed on the web, but most are full. Then too, many fail and become like hoarding places because they take in too many cats to care for properly. It is truly difficult to find a good sanctuary, but I'll keep trying. If I knew who would take care of my 15 cats I'd give them my house which is a lovely home in a resort area on a lake. It has been built around the needs of my cats, and has three outside enclosures they can access from the inside via cat flaps. It is also in the woods on several acres with no traffic. It is a paradise for my cats, and I just wish someone could let them continue the happy life they know and love. I will not go to my grave and be at peace until I know my babies are taken care of. Lorrie On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:00 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and whatever may show up) in my will. Everything is in trust to be used for their care until they all leave this world. WHO WILL HANDLE YOUR TRUST AND BE SURE YOUR CATS ARE CARED FOR? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Vaccination for FeLV+ kitten
Hi everyone, I was wondering what the general concensus was on giving a positive kitten the FVRCP vaccination. Long story short, my recently adopted 12- week kitten (Macey) was spayed and 1st FVRCP vaccine given, as well as Rabies, before she was FeLV tested. 2 days later, she came down with a very bad URI (which she got during her short stay at the shelter), and I didn't think she would make it. But she did, so now I'm not sure whether to keep her vaccinated or not. Also, I've started doing online research, but does anyone know of supplements that actually might help the immune system? I have ordered L-lysine powder and treats, and I'm already giving my 2 stomatitis kitties interferon (alpha) and am thinking maybe to start giving that to Macey also. I have Forti-flora and thought it might help a bit, as well. Thanks so much, Cindy ^..^ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV
Thanks! On 9/8/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Do NOT vaccinate against FIV - no reason. Healthy cats and FIV+ cats can live together and NOT get infected, unless they fight and exchange blood/saliva! They can live for a very long time, too - but you have to make sure that they get good nutrition, supplements, check their gums and teeth often, and at the slightest sign of a sniffle, immediately treat! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of katskat1 Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 1:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV YIKE! I hadn't heard that. Carcinogenic? How? And how/where can I go for more info? I want to stop getting my fur-babies that shot if this is the case. Thanks kat On 9/8/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Absolutely useless vaccine, and probably carcinogenic, too! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:03 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV ...and there is a lot of controversy about if it really does help prevent FIV. - Original Message - From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV Right, the FIV vac makes them test positive for FIV. And once their neutered they are not going to fight and give deep bite wounds so no danger of transmitting. Worthless vaccination just makes money for the company and the vet. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2011, at 6:43 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: I have always heard not to vaccinate for FIV, only FelV. Not only is the FIV vaccination questionable, but the cat will forever test positive for FIV just because of the vaccination. On 09-07, katskat1 wrote: Again, a large number of the people posting on this site MIX positives and negatives with the following caveat: 1. Negatives MUST be fully vaccinated incl: FIV and FeLV 2. After initial vaccination in negative adults there should be a waiting period before mixing. I think it is 1 month or so but others can confirm the correct incubation for the disease. 3. After initial AND boosters for younger cats/kittens I wait until the younger cat is 2 - 3 months past the final vaccination and or at least 6 - 7 months old before mixing. 4. I vaccinate the positive cats for all BUT FeLV and FIV (whichever they are positive for) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or g ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination for FeLV+ kitten
Last August, a furry little kitten was saved by a woman who was gardening; she saw a fox chase the kitten, and took him inside. She brought it to our vet, and of course, I ended up with Jonathan, who was adopted in February. However, this cat will never be vaccinated again (directions from our vet), and he will be strictly an indoor cat, anyway. After getting vaccines, he came home to us. He was the most subdued kitten, always sleeping! We had him checked out, and it seems that the vaccines, maybe NOT caused, but certainly brought to the surface toxoplasmosis. He was on meds for over 5 months, until, after countless blood tests, he no longer had it. =^..^= From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of nckittenb...@aol.com Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 12:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccination for FeLV+ kitten Hi everyone, I was wondering what the general concensus was on giving a positive kitten the FVRCP vaccination. Long story short, my recently adopted 12- week kitten (Macey) was spayed and 1st FVRCP vaccine given, as well as Rabies, before she was FeLV tested. 2 days later, she came down with a very bad URI (which she got during her short stay at the shelter), and I didn't think she would make it. But she did, so now I'm not sure whether to keep her vaccinated or not. Also, I've started doing online research, but does anyone know of supplements that actually might help the immune system? I have ordered L-lysine powder and treats, and I'm already giving my 2 stomatitis kitties interferon (alpha) and am thinking maybe to start giving that to Macey also. I have Forti-flora and thought it might help a bit, as well. Thanks so much, Cindy ^..^ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV
Many vaccines may be carcinogenic, be cancer-causing whereas others may cause growths at the injection site. Always check for lumps and remember where any vaccines were injected. I believe that most vets have a system like Rabies on right side, Leukemia on left side, etc. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of katskat1 Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 1:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV YIKE! I hadn't heard that. Carcinogenic? How? And how/where can I go for more info? I want to stop getting my fur-babies that shot if this is the case. Thanks kat On 9/8/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Absolutely useless vaccine, and probably carcinogenic, too! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:03 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV ...and there is a lot of controversy about if it really does help prevent FIV. - Original Message - From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV Right, the FIV vac makes them test positive for FIV. And once their neutered they are not going to fight and give deep bite wounds so no danger of transmitting. Worthless vaccination just makes money for the company and the vet. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2011, at 6:43 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: I have always heard not to vaccinate for FIV, only FelV. Not only is the FIV vaccination questionable, but the cat will forever test positive for FIV just because of the vaccination. On 09-07, katskat1 wrote: Again, a large number of the people posting on this site MIX positives and negatives with the following caveat: 1. Negatives MUST be fully vaccinated incl: FIV and FeLV 2. After initial vaccination in negative adults there should be a waiting period before mixing. I think it is 1 month or so but others can confirm the correct incubation for the disease. 3. After initial AND boosters for younger cats/kittens I wait until the younger cat is 2 - 3 months past the final vaccination and or at least 6 - 7 months old before mixing. 4. I vaccinate the positive cats for all BUT FeLV and FIV (whichever they are positive for) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or g ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Vaccination for FeLV kitten
I neglected to mention that I have many other negative cats who live in the majority of the house, and I have the kitten, Macey, confined to my office right now. When she had the URI, I tried my best to not transfer it outside the room, but, of course, several of my other cats got it, cause I haven't gotten them vaccincated in years. So I guess my main concern was if the other cats somehow came down with another URI in the future, chances are Macey might get it, from my transferance. If she was vaccinated, wouldn't she have a bit more protection than if not, especially since her immune system is compromised with the leukemia? Since I am new here, I was reading some previous threads, and I was interested in the comments made about vegetarianism, farm animals, etc. a while back. Obviously a deviation from leukemia, I am glad to say that I am a vegetarian (hopefully vegan one day), and I was wondering if anyone here knows about The Farm Sanctuary. I visited the Watkins Glen sanctuary (they also have a farm in CA) 2 years ago and stayed there for 2 nights, and it was the most peaceful trip I have ever taken. Such a magnificent and compassionate place! I highly recommend anyone who cares for animals to visit there. Unfortunately, the organization is up against some pretty powerful lobbies, so it's really hard to pass anti-cruelty laws for farm animals. But they try their best and have made great strides... ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination for FeLV kitten
It's a wonderful place..I haven't been there, but have organized and participated a walkathon for them in our area.. I am vegetarian, almost vegan, except when going to a restaurants - easy now, but wasn't when I went cold-turkey in 1985.. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of nckittenb...@aol.com Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 2:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccination for FeLV kitten I neglected to mention that I have many other negative cats who live in the majority of the house, and I have the kitten, Macey, confined to my office right now. When she had the URI, I tried my best to not transfer it outside the room, but, of course, several of my other cats got it, cause I haven't gotten them vaccincated in years. So I guess my main concern was if the other cats somehow came down with another URI in the future, chances are Macey might get it, from my transferance. If she was vaccinated, wouldn't she have a bit more protection than if not, especially since her immune system is compromised with the leukemia? Since I am new here, I was reading some previous threads, and I was interested in the comments made about vegetarianism, farm animals, etc. a while back. Obviously a deviation from leukemia, I am glad to say that I am a vegetarian (hopefully vegan one day), and I was wondering if anyone here knows about The Farm Sanctuary. I visited the Watkins Glen sanctuary (they also have a farm in CA) 2 years ago and stayed there for 2 nights, and it was the most peaceful trip I have ever taken. Such a magnificent and compassionate place! I highly recommend anyone who cares for animals to visit there. Unfortunately, the organization is up against some pretty powerful lobbies, so it's really hard to pass anti-cruelty laws for farm animals. But they try their best and have made great strides... ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
Hey, I love you two!!! I wish you really could move here when the time comes. I am in fairly good health for 78, so I don't plan on checkin' out anytime soon, but I worry about my cats a lot because it could happen. . For the record my three kids are older than you two girls. My son is 56, middle daughter 54 and youngest daughter just turned 50. All of them adore cats, but they already have a bunch of their own. My youngest daughter has 11 cats, and the others have a several cats and dogs. I know they wouldn't just dump my cats, because they are great kids, but they would have a problem taking all 15 of mine. . Now just in case you two are really thinking of coming here you can look up www.alpinelakeresort.com It's in the eastern mountains of WV just ten miles from the Maryland border. Summers here are wonderful with temperatures seldom above 75 - 80, but beware, in the winter we get LOTS of snow. Anyway, regardless of whether we ever meet, thanks for giving me some hope for the future of my kitty kats. BTW, Maureen, my cats like strange people, I'm pretty damn strange myself :-). Lorrie On 09-09, Maureen Olvey wrote: See Lorrie - now everything has been worked out! So tell your three kids if they don't get off their butts and offer to take your babies in that you're going to have two strange women (well, I'm strange anyway) living in your house taking care of your animals. And we're not going to let them come enjoy the lake either!!! From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) Lorrie, I like the way Maureen thinks! I can help Maureen take care of all of your cats, I love her idea even though she's kidding. It would be a great place to retire and between the two of us, we can take care of all the furry babies! Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0) L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
We don't have to be older to check out, we could be hit by a bus any dayyoung or old - therefore all of us should have a serious contingency plan for emergencies! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) Hey, I love you two!!! I wish you really could move here when the time comes. I am in fairly good health for 78, so I don't plan on checkin' out anytime soon, but I worry about my cats a lot because it could happen. . For the record my three kids are older than you two girls. My son is 56, middle daughter 54 and youngest daughter just turned 50. All of them adore cats, but they already have a bunch of their own. My youngest daughter has 11 cats, and the others have a several cats and dogs. I know they wouldn't just dump my cats, because they are great kids, but they would have a problem taking all 15 of mine. . Now just in case you two are really thinking of coming here you can look up www.alpinelakeresort.com It's in the eastern mountains of WV just ten miles from the Maryland border. Summers here are wonderful with temperatures seldom above 75 - 80, but beware, in the winter we get LOTS of snow. Anyway, regardless of whether we ever meet, thanks for giving me some hope for the future of my kitty kats. BTW, Maureen, my cats like strange people, I'm pretty damn strange myself :-). Lorrie On 09-09, Maureen Olvey wrote: See Lorrie - now everything has been worked out! So tell your three kids if they don't get off their butts and offer to take your babies in that you're going to have two strange women (well, I'm strange anyway) living in your house taking care of your animals. And we're not going to let them come enjoy the lake either!!! From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) Lorrie, I like the way Maureen thinks! I can help Maureen take care of all of your cats, I love her idea even though she's kidding. It would be a great place to retire and between the two of us, we can take care of all the furry babies! Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0) L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
Amen On Sep 9, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Natalie wrote: We don't have to be older to check out, we could be hit by a bus any dayyoung or old - therefore all of us should have a serious contingency plan for emergencies! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) Hey, I love you two!!! I wish you really could move here when the time comes. I am in fairly good health for 78, so I don't plan on checkin' out anytime soon, but I worry about my cats a lot because it could happen. . For the record my three kids are older than you two girls. My son is 56, middle daughter 54 and youngest daughter just turned 50. All of them adore cats, but they already have a bunch of their own. My youngest daughter has 11 cats, and the others have a several cats and dogs. I know they wouldn't just dump my cats, because they are great kids, but they would have a problem taking all 15 of mine. . Now just in case you two are really thinking of coming here you can look up www.alpinelakeresort.com It's in the eastern mountains of WV just ten miles from the Maryland border. Summers here are wonderful with temperatures seldom above 75 - 80, but beware, in the winter we get LOTS of snow. Anyway, regardless of whether we ever meet, thanks for giving me some hope for the future of my kitty kats. BTW, Maureen, my cats like strange people, I'm pretty damn strange myself :-). Lorrie On 09-09, Maureen Olvey wrote: See Lorrie - now everything has been worked out! So tell your three kids if they don't get off their butts and offer to take your babies in that you're going to have two strange women (well, I'm strange anyway) living in your house taking care of your animals. And we're not going to let them come enjoy the lake either!!! From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) Lorrie, I like the way Maureen thinks! I can help Maureen take care of all of your cats, I love her idea even though she's kidding. It would be a great place to retire and between the two of us, we can take care of all the furry babies! Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0) L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
As much as I love my family, I would not trust them with my cats. They or ther spouces are not cat lovers and I would never feel easy leaving my babies with them. Like you say, they could take the money and dump the cats. That is why I would rather trust strangers who have already committed themselves to caring for unwanted cats. At least their hearts are in the rght place. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: On 09-08, Bonnie Hogue wrote: For most of us, it is not just finding a trustworthy care giver, it's having enough money to provide for them and the cats. If you have property (and other wealth) this could make all the difference for your feline family. I don't know about you, but I always feel nobody loves them like I do...which may be true, but to ensure they're cared for is a burden relieved. ~Bonnie I know what you mean about thinking no one can love them like I do, and I also worry about someone taking what money they get for each cat and then dumping the cat and spending the money. I am not wealthy, just comfortable from a small inheritance my parents left me. I have to be careful with my money, but I have enough saved up for the care of my cats. It's the person who will care for them that's my huge concern. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
Hi Lorrie, Thanks, Lorrie...your place sounds so nice that it's very tempting!! I wish you had a bed and breakfast, I would come often for visits! Let's see, 15 kittiesdivided by 3 = 5, that's 5 babiesa piece for your kids. Since you are not planning on going anywhere the next 15 yrs, I bet they could get a home. If not, I will check out your website and Maureen and I will gladly love on those furry babies 24/7. But I bet you will be around, you know your babies need you :0) I love on mine each day in case there is no tomorrow. Life is so precious and we all can take it for granted. Hugs to you and don't worry so much =) Lynda Sep 9, 2011 04:46:54 PM, felvtalk@felineleukemia.org wrote: Hey, I love you two!!! I wish you really could move here when thetime comes. I am in fairly good health for 78, so I don't plan oncheckin' out anytime soon, but I worry about my cats a lot because itcould happen..For the record my three kids are older than you two girls. My son is56, middle daughter 54 and youngest daughter just turned 50. All ofthem adore cats, but they already have a bunch of their own. Myyoungest daughter has 11 cats, and the others have a several cats anddogs. I know they wouldn't just dump my cats, because they are greatkids, but they would have a problem taking all 15 of mine..Now just in case you two are really thinking of coming here you canlook up www.alpinelakeresort.com It's in the eastern mountains of WVjust ten miles from the Maryland border. Summers here are wonderfulwith temperatures seldom above 75 - 80, but beware, in the winter weget LOTS of snow.Anyway, regardless of whether we ever meet, thanks for giving me some hope for the future of my kitty kats. BTW, Maureen, my cats likestrange people, I'm pretty damn strange myself :-).Lorrie On 09-09, Maureen Olvey wrote: See Lorrie - now everything has been worked out! So tell your three kids if they don't get off their butts and offer to take your babies in that you're going to have two strange women (well, I'm strange anyway) living in your house taking care of your animals. And we're not going to let them come enjoy the lake either!!! From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) Lorrie, I like the way Maureen thinks! I can help Maureen take care of all of your cats, I love her idea even though she's kidding. It would be a great place to retire and between the two of us, we can take care of all the furry babies! Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0) L ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
I can hear all the justifications...she wouldn't want...they aren't happy...we just can't...we are allergic (suddenly)...they are shredding the furnitureshe wouldn't want the farm to go to wastewe just can't..the hopes/plans are that my friend will be able to hire and supervise someone to live in my home and care for them. After the little ones leave this world, the plans are that the farm go to a rescue/charity. Sub-dividing the farm would be a big temptation. Add in logging and...nopenot my family On Sep 9, 2011, at 5:18 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: As much as I love my family, I would not trust them with my cats. They or ther spouces are not cat lovers and I would never feel easy leaving my babies with them. Like you say, they could take the money and dump the cats. That is why I would rather trust strangers who have already committed themselves to caring for unwanted cats. At least their hearts are in the rght place. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: On 09-08, Bonnie Hogue wrote: For most of us, it is not just finding a trustworthy care giver, it's having enough money to provide for them and the cats. If you have property (and other wealth) this could make all the difference for your feline family. I don't know about you, but I always feel nobody loves them like I do...which may be true, but to ensure they're cared for is a burden relieved. ~Bonnie I know what you mean about thinking no one can love them like I do, and I also worry about someone taking what money they get for each cat and then dumping the cat and spending the money. I am not wealthy, just comfortable from a small inheritance my parents left me. I have to be careful with my money, but I have enough saved up for the care of my cats. It's the person who will care for them that's my huge concern. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
I could sell my place and move there. I only have 7 cats and if they dn't get alog well with yours, I could build them an outdoor day time house. At night they could sleep in my bedroom like they do now. I wouldn't mind takin on a few more cats. Or waht about this guy in Oregon who bought 600 acres of an old tree farm. He takes in strays, unwanteds and lets the roam the 600 acres. He builds all kinds of houses for them to sleep in and spends the day checking up on them and giving each one some loving. longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
That is what really worries me. I am in pretty god shape, but accidents do happen. That is why we have to have everything worked out now, including the woever gets my cat(s) to let them know about thir prsonality, food, etc. MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: Amen On Sep 9, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Natalie wrote: We don't have to be older to check out, we could be hit by a bus any dayyoung or old - therefore all of us should have a serious contingency plan for emergencies! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) Hey, I love you two!!! I wish you really could move here when the time comes. I am in fairly good health for 78, so I don't plan on checkin' out anytime soon, but I worry about my cats a lot because it could happen. . For the record my three kids are older than you two girls. My son is 56, middle daughter 54 and youngest daughter just turned 50. All of them adore cats, but they already have a bunch of their own. My youngest daughter has 11 cats, and the others have a several cats and dogs. I know they wouldn't just dump my cats, because they are great kids, but they would have a problem taking all 15 of mine. . Now just in case you two are really thinking of coming here you can look up www.alpinelakeresort.com It's in the eastern mountains of WV just ten miles from the Maryland border. Summers here are wonderful with temperatures seldom above 75 - 80, but beware, in the winter we get LOTS of snow. Anyway, regardless of whether we ever meet, thanks for giving me some hope for the future of my kitty kats. BTW, Maureen, my cats like strange people, I'm pretty damn strange myself :-). Lorrie On 09-09, Maureen Olvey wrote: See Lorrie - now everything has been worked out! So tell your three kids if they don't get off their butts and offer to take your babies in that you're going to have two strange women (well, I'm strange anyway) living in your house taking care of your animals. And we're not going to let them come enjoy the lake either!!! From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) Lorrie, I like the way Maureen thinks! I can help Maureen take care of all of your cats, I love her idea even though she's kidding. It would be a great place to retire and between the two of us, we can take care of all the furry babies! Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0) L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Isn't that in Florida? All little houses; but how does one keep track of them out there, and so many, how can he know who's sick? Don't they get out? Is it all fenced in? I had so many questions when I saw the video Man builds cat-sized village for homeless cats: http://green.yahoo.com/blog/guest_bloggers/69/man-builds-cat-sized-village-for-homeless-cats.html . There's also a woman in CA, I think, who has 600 cats - looks like a great place. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) I could sell my place and move there. I only have 7 cats and if they dn't get alog well with yours, I could build them an outdoor day time house. At night they could sleep in my bedroom like they do now. I wouldn't mind takin on a few more cats. Or waht about this guy in Oregon who bought 600 acres of an old tree farm. He takes in strays, unwanteds and lets the roam the 600 acres. He builds all kinds of houses for them to sleep in and spends the day checking up on them and giving each one some loving. longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
I started a hard file (we have it on the computer, but nobody would know how to get it): Pictures of individual cats, medical history, descriptions of personality, likes/dislikes, etc. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) That is what really worries me. I am in pretty god shape, but accidents do happen. That is why we have to have everything worked out now, including the woever gets my cat(s) to let them know about thir prsonality, food, etc. MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: Amen On Sep 9, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Natalie wrote: We don't have to be older to check out, we could be hit by a bus any dayyoung or old - therefore all of us should have a serious contingency plan for emergencies! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) Hey, I love you two!!! I wish you really could move here when the time comes. I am in fairly good health for 78, so I don't plan on checkin' out anytime soon, but I worry about my cats a lot because it could happen. . For the record my three kids are older than you two girls. My son is 56, middle daughter 54 and youngest daughter just turned 50. All of them adore cats, but they already have a bunch of their own. My youngest daughter has 11 cats, and the others have a several cats and dogs. I know they wouldn't just dump my cats, because they are great kids, but they would have a problem taking all 15 of mine. . Now just in case you two are really thinking of coming here you can look up www.alpinelakeresort.com It's in the eastern mountains of WV just ten miles from the Maryland border. Summers here are wonderful with temperatures seldom above 75 - 80, but beware, in the winter we get LOTS of snow. Anyway, regardless of whether we ever meet, thanks for giving me some hope for the future of my kitty kats. BTW, Maureen, my cats like strange people, I'm pretty damn strange myself :-). Lorrie On 09-09, Maureen Olvey wrote: See Lorrie - now everything has been worked out! So tell your three kids if they don't get off their butts and offer to take your babies in that you're going to have two strange women (well, I'm strange anyway) living in your house taking care of your animals. And we're not going to let them come enjoy the lake either!!! From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) Lorrie, I like the way Maureen thinks! I can help Maureen take care of all of your cats, I love her idea even though she's kidding. It would be a great place to retire and between the two of us, we can take care of all the furry babies! Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0) L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
I have so many foster failures that I have more cats than most people so mine could never stay together (a lot of them wouldn't care). So here's my plan - my husband would keep several but he couldn't handle keeping all of them by himself, and even if he did once he remarried I doubt a new wife would want to take care of that many animals, so for the rest my rescue would take a few of the younger, adoptable ones, I have a couple of friends that would each take a few, then I know this nice lady in CT that operates a rescue that can take the rest. Her name is Natalie. Except for one cat, she will go to someone with the e-mail address of maima...@gmail.com. That cat's name is Mai Mai so it's only appropriate she goes to someone who has Mai Mai in her address! Her and her brother are named Mai Thai, like the drink except that there's an h in the tai word that normally isn't there. So her name is pronounced Mai like the drink but I call her Mai Mai. Just to clarify, the reason there's an h in Thai which isn't there in the correct spelling of the drink (which is mai tai) is because my boy Thai is an apple head Siamese (mix but looks almost pure) and the new name for the traditional applehead Siamese cat is a Thai Cat. So after reading that for some reason I came up with Mai Thai for those two. So anyway, I think Mai Mai should go with Mai Mai on her farm. And if you're taking Mai Mai you might as well take Thai. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 19:52:14 -0500 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) That is what really worries me. I am in pretty god shape, but accidents do happen. That is why we have to have everything worked out now, including the woever gets my cat(s) to let them know about thir prsonality, food, etc. MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: Amen On Sep 9, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Natalie wrote: We don't have to be older to check out, we could be hit by a bus any dayyoung or old - therefore all of us should have a serious contingency plan for emergencies! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) Hey, I love you two!!! I wish you really could move here when the time comes. I am in fairly good health for 78, so I don't plan on checkin' out anytime soon, but I worry about my cats a lot because it could happen. . For the record my three kids are older than you two girls. My son is 56, middle daughter 54 and youngest daughter just turned 50. All of them adore cats, but they already have a bunch of their own. My youngest daughter has 11 cats, and the others have a several cats and dogs. I know they wouldn't just dump my cats, because they are great kids, but they would have a problem taking all 15 of mine. . Now just in case you two are really thinking of coming here you can look up www.alpinelakeresort.com It's in the eastern mountains of WV just ten miles from the Maryland border. Summers here are wonderful with temperatures seldom above 75 - 80, but beware, in the winter we get LOTS of snow. Anyway, regardless of whether we ever meet, thanks for giving me some hope for the future of my kitty kats. BTW, Maureen, my cats like strange people, I'm pretty damn strange myself :-). Lorrie On 09-09, Maureen Olvey wrote: See Lorrie - now everything has been worked out! So tell your three kids if they don't get off their butts and offer to take your babies in that you're going to have two strange women (well, I'm strange anyway) living in your house taking care of your animals. And we're not going to let them come enjoy the lake either!!! From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) Lorrie, I like the way Maureen thinks! I can help Maureen take care of all of your cats, I love her idea even though she's kidding. It would be a great place to retire and between the two of us, we can take care of all the furry babies! Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0) L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
Seems like I read the woman in CA does have her property fenced in. She doesn't actually have as much acreage as this other guy. She has a staff of like 25 people. I never heard that about the other guy so who knows if his property is fenced in. But it seems like he takes in ferals and homeless cats who have absolutely nowhere else to go so even if it isn't an ideal home situation those cats are a lot better off with him. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:21:51 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) Isn't that in Florida? All little houses; but how does one keep track of them out there, and so many, how can he know who's sick? Don't they get out? Is it all fenced in? I had so many questions when I saw the video Man builds cat-sized village for homeless cats: http://green.yahoo.com/blog/guest_bloggers/69/man-builds-cat-sized-village-for-homeless-cats.html . There's also a woman in CA, I think, who has 600 cats - looks like a great place. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) I could sell my place and move there. I only have 7 cats and if they dn't get alog well with yours, I could build them an outdoor day time house. At night they could sleep in my bedroom like they do now. I wouldn't mind takin on a few more cats. Or waht about this guy in Oregon who bought 600 acres of an old tree farm. He takes in strays, unwanteds and lets the roam the 600 acres. He builds all kinds of houses for them to sleep in and spends the day checking up on them and giving each one some loving. longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
