Re: [Felvtalk] [FeLVPositiveCats] Too little appetite
Thank you for all your advice. I did give her dry kibbles last night and she did eat them. I'm taking her to my regular vet at 4:30 today and I just got off the phone with our holistic vet who also recommended taking her to get some blood work done as well as a B12 shot. Please keep Kitty in your thoughts and prayers that all is normal and she is just being finicky. Thanks Mally Sent from my iPhone. On Feb 27, 2014, at 9:19, Andrew Werner bayou_rif...@yahoo.com wrote: You might want to try baby food. Look at the label and get some without added onion (onion can cause a kind of anemia in cats). Sometimes 5-6 seconds in the microwave to make it smell better helps. Last resort - try dry kibble. Some of ours see that stuff the way we see potato chips - greasy and good-tasting. If Kitty does go for the kibble, provide water along with it to avoid dehydration and/or urinary problems. I do not know where you are located but if you are someplace where Spring is coming and the weather is changing, be aware that they sense that kind of thing and might change their dietary habits in response. Best of luck. Purrs to you and yours Andrew of Andrew Lizzie Purrkins Diesel Cat, Fuzzy-Xena, Zoro, Zippy, Wellington, Alfred, Bobby, Tactical, Suzi-Q, Pinkie, Morse, Lillian, Ichabod, Dorothy, and Rasputin - in East Bernard, Texas USA From: Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com To: felvpositivec...@yahoogroups.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:15 PM Subject: [FeLVPositiveCats] Too little appetite Hello everyone, Kitty, our little 19 months old FeLV positive cat, has for the past three days been eating less than usual. I have tried all sort of new canned foods but she eats a little bit and then walks away. She will eat maybe 1/3 of what she would normally eat in one meal then walk away sometimes she comes back to it but mostly she will want something else. If I give it to her in a new bowl she might it or not. She has not stopped eating all together but I'm concerned that she is not eating as much as previously. She plays, poops and pees, does not hide, is otherwise her usual adorable self. Has anyone seen these signs before? I don't know if i should take her to the vet or wait. Thanks, Malls and Kitty. Sent from my iPad Yahoo Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FeLVPositiveCats/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FeLVPositiveCats/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: felvpositivecats-dig...@yahoogroups.com felvpositivecats-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: felvpositivecats-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to: https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/ __._,_.___ Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (3) VISIT YOUR GROUP • Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] [FeLVPositiveCats] Too little appetite
She is in my thoughts and prayers Avaykn ava...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for all your advice. I did give her dry kibbles last night and she did eat them. I'm taking her to my regular vet at 4:30 today and I just got off the phone with our holistic vet who also recommended taking her to get some blood work done as well as a B12 shot. Please keep Kitty in your thoughts and prayers that all is normal and she is just being finicky. Thanks Mally Sent from my iPhone. On Feb 27, 2014, at 9:19, Andrew Werner bayou_rif...@yahoo.com wrote: You might want to try baby food. Look at the label and get some without added onion (onion can cause a kind of anemia in cats). Sometimes 5-6 seconds in the microwave to make it smell better helps. Last resort - try dry kibble. Some of ours see that stuff the way we see potato chips - greasy and good-tasting. If Kitty does go for the kibble, provide water along with it to avoid dehydration and/or urinary problems. I do not know where you are located but if you are someplace where Spring is coming and the weather is changing, be aware that they sense that kind of thing and might change their dietary habits in response. Best of luck. Purrs to you and yours Andrew of Andrew Lizzie Purrkins Diesel Cat, Fuzzy-Xena, Zoro, Zippy, Wellington, Alfred, Bobby, Tactical, Suzi-Q, Pinkie, Morse, Lillian, Ichabod, Dorothy, and Rasputin - in East Bernard, Texas USA From: Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com To: felvpositivec...@yahoogroups.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:15 PM Subject: [FeLVPositiveCats] Too little appetite Hello everyone, Kitty, our little 19 months old FeLV positive cat, has for the past three days been eating less than usual. I have tried all sort of new canned foods but she eats a little bit and then walks away. She will eat maybe 1/3 of what she would normally eat in one meal then walk away sometimes she comes back to it but mostly she will want something else. If I give it to her in a new bowl she might it or not. She has not stopped eating all together but I'm concerned that she is not eating as much as previously. She plays, poops and pees, does not hide, is otherwise her usual adorable self. Has anyone seen these signs before? I don't know if i should take her to the vet or wait. Thanks, Malls and Kitty. Sent from my iPad Yahoo Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FeLVPositiveCats/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FeLVPositiveCats/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: felvpositivecats-dig...@yahoogroups.com felvpositivecats-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: felvpositivecats-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to: https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/ __._,_.___ Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (3) VISIT YOUR GROUP • Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Blood transfusion
Hello, Took Kitty, 1 months old FeLV positive cat to the vet a few hours ago because she was not eating very much. She had lost a little weigh, her temperature was at 101, we did a blood panel and her PCV is at 21.7 and her red blood cell at 5.28. Her holistic vet is recommending a remedy to help and her regular vet is recommending a blood transfusion. What are your experiences with these routes ? __._,_.__ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Blood transfusion
I have never heard a transfusion recommended at PCV of 21. That is considered moderate anemia, not severe, and transfusions are usually reserved for severe (under 15 or even 13). Part of the reason is that cats can have allergic or auto-immune reactions to transfusions so they normally only give them when needed to preserve life, and part of the reason is the limited availability of blood. I have gotten transfusions for 2 cats in the past, both when their PCV was below 13. In both cases they helped for a very short time. In the first case, it helped keep a cat alive (who was FeLV+) long enough for chemo to kick in at which point his count went up for a while until the chemo stopped working. The second cat was Bear, who I lost recently, who was FIV+ and had hemolytic anemia, where he was killing off his red blood cells. He got 2 transfusions on one day and another a 5 days later. In both cases the transfusions raised his PCV a little for a couple days and then he started killing of the transfused blood too, and he died 3 days after the last transfusion. If the anemia is from something less serious or slower moving, a transfusion can last longer. But because of the associated risks, vets normally wait longer to do it. At 21.7, her anemia could be from some systemic issue like an infection or cancer. They get anemia when they are very sick from something else and if that thing is resolved the anemia resolves. So it may not get worse if you can solve whatever else is going on or treat it at least temporarily. Or she could have nonregenerative anemia and it will slowly get worse. But in that case she should adjust to the lower count after a few day and not be floored by it until it gets much lower. So I think I would go another route other than transfusion at first, and see if you can determine and treat whatever else is going on. 101 is not a fever for a cat, it's in the middle of normal, so she is not feverish. What is her white blood cell count? But if you do not do the transfusion, I would get her blood count rechecked soon to make sure it is not going down very fast, in which case you may need to soon. Is she really only 4 weeks old? You said 1 months, so I don't know if the 1 is the typo or the plural months. If she is 4 weeks old, it's possible that this changes things and vets would transfuse faster. But I also never heard of a kitten that young getting a transfusion. Michelle -Original Message- From: Avaykn ava...@gmail.com To: FeLVPositiveCats felvpositivec...@yahoogroups.com; felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:45 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] Blood transfusion Hello, Took Kitty, 1 months old FeLV positive cat to the vet a few hours ago because she was not eating very much. She had lost a little weigh, her temperature was at 101, we did a blood panel and her PCV is at 21.7 and her red blood cell at 5.28. Her holistic vet is recommending a remedy to help and her regular vet is recommending a blood transfusion. What are your experiences with these routes ? __._,_.___ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Blood transfusion
There's a feline anemia yahoo group too, which may have more insights. Michelle -Original Message- From: Avaykn ava...@gmail.com To: FeLVPositiveCats felvpositivec...@yahoogroups.com; felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:45 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] Blood transfusion Hello, Took Kitty, 1 months old FeLV positive cat to the vet a few hours ago because she was not eating very much. She had lost a little weigh, her temperature was at 101, we did a blood panel and her PCV is at 21.7 and her red blood cell at 5.28. Her holistic vet is recommending a remedy to help and her regular vet is recommending a blood transfusion. What are your experiences with these routes ? __._,_.___ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Blood transfusion
She is 18 months Sent from my iPhone. On Feb 27, 2014, at 18:55, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: I have never heard a transfusion recommended at PCV of 21. That is considered moderate anemia, not severe, and transfusions are usually reserved for severe (under 15 or even 13). Part of the reason is that cats can have allergic or auto-immune reactions to transfusions so they normally only give them when needed to preserve life, and part of the reason is the limited availability of blood. I have gotten transfusions for 2 cats in the past, both when their PCV was below 13. In both cases they helped for a very short time. In the first case, it helped keep a cat alive (who was FeLV+) long enough for chemo to kick in at which point his count went up for a while until the chemo stopped working. The second cat was Bear, who I lost recently, who was FIV+ and had hemolytic anemia, where he was killing off his red blood cells. He got 2 transfusions on one day and another a 5 days later. In both cases the transfusions raised his PCV a little for a couple days and then he started killing of the transfused blood too, and he died 3 days after the last transfusion. If the anemia is from something less serious or slower moving, a transfusion can last longer. But because of the associated risks, vets normally wait longer to do it. At 21.7, her anemia could be from some systemic issue like an infection or cancer. They get anemia when they are very sick from something else and if that thing is resolved the anemia resolves. So it may not get worse if you can solve whatever else is going on or treat it at least temporarily. Or she could have nonregenerative anemia and it will slowly get worse. But in that case she should adjust to the lower count after a few day and not be floored by it until it gets much lower. So I think I would go another route other than transfusion at first, and see if you can determine and treat whatever else is going on. 101 is not a fever for a cat, it's in the middle of normal, so she is not feverish. What is her white blood cell count? But if you do not do the transfusion, I would get her blood count rechecked soon to make sure it is not going down very fast, in which case you may need to soon. Is she really only 4 weeks old? You said 1 months, so I don't know if the 1 is the typo or the plural months. If she is 4 weeks old, it's possible that this changes things and vets would transfuse faster. But I also never heard of a kitten that young getting a transfusion. Michelle -Original Message- From: Avaykn ava...@gmail.com To: FeLVPositiveCats felvpositivec...@yahoogroups.com; felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:45 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] Blood transfusion Hello, Took Kitty, 1 months old FeLV positive cat to the vet a few hours ago because she was not eating very much. She had lost a little weigh, her temperature was at 101, we did a blood panel and her PCV is at 21.7 and her red blood cell at 5.28. Her holistic vet is recommending a remedy to help and her regular vet is recommending a blood transfusion. What are your experiences with these routes ? __._,_.___ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
