Re: [Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia
try going to new-2054-gr...@googlegroups.com.I got in with them when my Annie was diagnosed with FELV and I was diagnonsed with Perpherial T-cell Lyphoma. I was supposed to die in 3 months and after 4 chemos that did not work, I am still here, in remission over 10 years.Pat and the others have been especially helpful and supportive. KATHLEEN BUSO wrote: > Thanks for the replies. I wanted to add that Oreo has been on on an > antibiotics for 10 days now - Aventiclav and Clavaseptin - as well as eye > ointment Tetracycline. He has been taking Metacam intermittently to bring > down his fever, and he always perks up when he has the metacam. I've been > putting Lysine in his food, because I was told it would help if his upper > respiratory infection is due to herpes. I've been feeding him high calorie > canned cat food, and he had been eating fairly well until the last few days. > He is eating today, but I have to coax him. He is using the litter box > regularly and normally, doesn't have diarrhea and hasn't vomited at all. His > main symptoms are that he is quite lethargic, has a fever and his eyes look > really bad. He can barely see out of them due to the inner third eyelid being > so pronounced. He is also wheezy at times. He has been sick for almost 2 > weeks now, with no sign of improving. > > > I am hoping we can nurse him through this and then deal with the feline > leukemia diagnosis after that, so any other suggestions on how to help him > recover from the URI would be great. I will ask the vet about using > Tobramycin and Terramycin. Amani, thanks for letting me know your experience > with LCTI. I'm sorry to hear it didn't work for you but that's great that you > had success with the steroid. I'll ask my vet about that too. > > > - Original Message - > > From: felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 12:09:33 PM > Subject: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 15, Issue 4 > > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia (KATHLEEN BUSO) > 2. Re: 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia (Amani Oakley) > 3. Re: 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia > (swacht1...@comcast.net) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 08:13:29 -0600 (MDT) > From: KATHLEEN BUSO > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia > Message-ID: <795058524.22477810.1435500809183.javamail.r...@shaw.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi, I am looking for advice about our little Oreo. We adopted him at 9 weeks > from a rescue group. His mom was a stray who was ill when she had her > kittens. The kittens were eventually bottle fed and had a rough start in > life, but then seemed to recover and were adopted out. About two weeks ago, > our Oreo started to show signs of illness. His inner third eyelid came out, > and then he started running a fever. I took him to the Rescue's vet, and she > gave me antibiotics and some metacam to bring down the fever. She said the > mom had been tested for a bunch of viruses, including feline leukemia and > came back negative, so there was no reason to test Oreo. A week later, he was > worse so I took him to another vet and she tested him and told me he tested > positive for feline leukemia. Up until yesterday, he seemed to still have a > fairly good appetite but was sleeping a lot and showing symptoms of upper > respiratory infection. Today he is uninterested in food and seems much worse. > I was wo nd > ering if anyone had any suggestions that would help, or should I just accept > that there's nothing that can be done? We were considering trying the LCTI > drug but we live in Canada so we would have to travel into the States to get > it. It would be about a 3.5 hour drive there and would be hard on Oreo, as he > hates the car. Has anyone used LCTI and had any success with it? Is there > anything else I can do for Oreo
Re: [Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia
Thanks for the replies. I wanted to add that Oreo has been on on an antibiotics for 10 days now - Aventiclav and Clavaseptin - as well as eye ointment Tetracycline. He has been taking Metacam intermittently to bring down his fever, and he always perks up when he has the metacam. I've been putting Lysine in his food, because I was told it would help if his upper respiratory infection is due to herpes. I've been feeding him high calorie canned cat food, and he had been eating fairly well until the last few days. He is eating today, but I have to coax him. He is using the litter box regularly and normally, doesn't have diarrhea and hasn't vomited at all. His main symptoms are that he is quite lethargic, has a fever and his eyes look really bad. He can barely see out of them due to the inner third eyelid being so pronounced. He is also wheezy at times. He has been sick for almost 2 weeks now, with no sign of improving. I am hoping we can nurse him through this and then deal with the feline leukemia diagnosis after that, so any other suggestions on how to help him recover from the URI would be great. I will ask the vet about using Tobramycin and Terramycin. Amani, thanks for letting me know your experience with LCTI. I'm sorry to hear it didn't work for you but that's great that you had success with the steroid. I'll ask my vet about that too. - Original Message - From: felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 12:09:33 PM Subject: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 15, Issue 4 Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org You can reach the person managing the list at felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." Today's Topics: 1. 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia (KATHLEEN BUSO) 2. Re: 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia (Amani Oakley) 3. Re: 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia (swacht1...@comcast.net) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 08:13:29 -0600 (MDT) From: KATHLEEN BUSO To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia Message-ID: <795058524.22477810.1435500809183.javamail.r...@shaw.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi, I am looking for advice about our little Oreo. We adopted him at 9 weeks from a rescue group. His mom was a stray who was ill when she had her kittens. The kittens were eventually bottle fed and had a rough start in life, but then seemed to recover and were adopted out. About two weeks ago, our Oreo started to show signs of illness. His inner third eyelid came out, and then he started running a fever. I took him to the Rescue's vet, and she gave me antibiotics and some metacam to bring down the fever. She said the mom had been tested for a bunch of viruses, including feline leukemia and came back negative, so there was no reason to test Oreo. A week later, he was worse so I took him to another vet and she tested him and told me he tested positive for feline leukemia. Up until yesterday, he seemed to still have a fairly good appetite but was sleeping a lot and showing symptoms of upper respiratory infection. Today he is uninterested in food and seems much worse. I was wond ering if anyone had any suggestions that would help, or should I just accept that there's nothing that can be done? We were considering trying the LCTI drug but we live in Canada so we would have to travel into the States to get it. It would be about a 3.5 hour drive there and would be hard on Oreo, as he hates the car. Has anyone used LCTI and had any success with it? Is there anything else I can do for Oreo now, to help him feel better, like steroids? Any suggestions or advice would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Kathleen -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20150628/8b5e56dd/attachment-0001.html> -- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:00:32 + From: Amani Oakley To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I have used the LCTI drug and had it shipped from the U.S. to Canada, to my vets. I had absolutely no success with it. We carefully monitored our little boy?s blood work for 4 to 6 months and there was no
Re: [Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia
Don't give any more metacam. That can be toxic to the kidneys, especially if used in a dehydrated cat. The manufacturer now recommends it for one-time use only. It needs to be dosed carefully, according to weight. I did use it in April and May for my terminally ill Harley, to help control his cancer pain, along with buprenorphine. He got it every 3 days - I think we went to 2 to 2.5 days at the end. For him, pain & inflammation control was more important than potential kidney damage. But I wouldn't use it more than one time in your situation. Marsha On 6/28/2015 9:13 AM, KATHLEEN BUSO wrote: Hi, I am looking for advice about our little Oreo. We adopted him at 9 weeks from a rescue group. His mom was a stray who was ill when she had her kittens. The kittens were eventually bottle fed and had a rough start in life, but then seemed to recover and were adopted out. About two weeks ago, our Oreo started to show signs of illness. His inner third eyelid came out, and then he started running a fever. I took him to the Rescue's vet, and she gave me antibiotics and some metacam to bring down the fever. She said the mom had been tested for a bunch of viruses, including feline leukemia and came back negative, so there was no reason to test Oreo. A week later, he was worse so I took him to another vet and she tested him and told me he tested positive for feline leukemia. Up until yesterday, he seemed to still have a fairly good appetite but was sleeping a lot and showing symptoms of upper respiratory infection. Today he is uninterested in food and seems much worse. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions that would help, or should I just accept that there's nothing that can be done? We were considering trying the LCTI drug but we live in Canada so we would have to travel into the States to get it. It would be about a 3.5 hour drive there and would be hard on Oreo, as he hates the car. Has anyone used LCTI and had any success with it? Is there anything else I can do for Oreo now, to help him feel better, like steroids? Any suggestions or advice would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Kathleen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia
Hi I am so sorry to hear your little Oreo has tested +. Try anything you can to get him to eat. Tempt him with any and every thing. He has to eat. Tuna juice is a good one, as is rotisserie chicken. I don't think steroids are a good idea...maybe a bit drastic and they are very hard on his system, especially as he is so young. Brynn is on steroids for her stomatitis... we really wish there was another option for her We have Brynn on Maitake D fraction. She takes the diluted drops very easily. I am convinced they are helping her as aside from her stomatits she is completely asymptomatic Jennifer On Jun 28, 2015, at 7:13 AM, KATHLEEN BUSO wrote: > Hi, I am looking for advice about our little Oreo. We adopted him at 9 weeks > from a rescue group. His mom was a stray who was ill when she had her > kittens. The kittens were eventually bottle fed and had a rough start in > life, but then seemed to recover and were adopted out. About two weeks ago, > our Oreo started to show signs of illness. His inner third eyelid came out, > and then he started running a fever. I took him to the Rescue's vet, and she > gave me antibiotics and some metacam to bring down the fever. She said the > mom had been tested for a bunch of viruses, including feline leukemia and > came back negative, so there was no reason to test Oreo. A week later, he was > worse so I took him to another vet and she tested him and told me he tested > positive for feline leukemia. Up until yesterday, he seemed to still have a > fairly good appetite but was sleeping a lot and showing symptoms of upper > respiratory infection. Today he is uninterested in food and seems much worse. > I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions that would help, or should I > just accept that there's nothing that can be done? We were considering trying > the LCTI drug but we live in Canada so we would have to travel into the > States to get it. It would be about a 3.5 hour drive there and would be hard > on Oreo, as he hates the car. Has anyone used LCTI and had any success with > it? Is there anything else I can do for Oreo now, to help him feel better, > like steroids? Any suggestions or advice would be very much appreciated. > > Thanks, > Kathleen > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia
First of all Kathleen Oreo needs to be seriously treated for URI – Tobramycin and Terramycin – drops of Tobramycin followed with Terramycin to help keep in the drops for eye issues. Oreo needs to be on an antibiotic to help combat the secondary infections. You may need to syringe feed Oreo – a gruel of canned – and KMR a milk replacer. I prefer Breeders Edge from Revival, a great feline milk replacer - they ship quickly. IF Oreo becomes dehydrated subq fluids will need to be given - The thing is being aggressive in treatment and keeping Oreo hydrated and nourished. As for Oreo being tested at this young age – well it’s not necessarily accurate. Should be retested no sooner than 30 days from the first test. sites for info are www.vet.cornell.edu - www.2ndchance.info/flv.html LTCI is a product from T-CYTE Therapeutics – another site www.sheltermedicine.com Koret Shelter Medicine Program www.v63.net/catsanctuary is where this info came from – web site from the UK If your vet suggests testing a young kitten for FIV with the in-house test – BEWARE! This is the same for FeLV Testing a kitten for FIV with the in-house test is a complete waste of time and money – the reason is that the test looks for FIV antibodies which are produced by the body in response to the virus – this is fine in adult cats, but not for kittens, because a kitten born from an FIV mother will inherit the antibodies from its mother but rarely the virus – so although it would test positive for FIV, it would likely not actually have the virus. The kitten will, over several months, lose its mother’s antibodies, and would then test negative for FIV. If it is important to know whether a kitten is actually FIV or not, there is a different test known as a PCR which looks for the DNA of the virus itself. This test is not widely available (Langford Lab, Bristol is one that does it). FeLV Feline Leukemia Virus FeLV is one of the fairly common cat viruses, that is much misunderstood FeLV (Feline Leukemia Virus) The virus is particularly devastating to very young cats who rarely live beyond the age of two when infected. Older cats who pick up the virus can live for years, like several at Catwork. How is FeLV caught? The virus is present in saliva and spread by close prolonged contact such as mutual grooming or shared food bowls. Biting will obviously also spread the virus. Symptoms – The symptoms can be many and varied (some of them similar to FIV) There can be a progressive deterioration in condition over time. Clinical signs can include fever, lethargy, poor appetite and weight loss. Respiratory, skin and intestinal problems are sometimes signs of the disease. Cancer tumours develop in some cats. What to do if your cat tests positive for FeLV. It is important to test a second time, at a laboratory, at an interval of 12 weeks from the first test. This is because, when a cat encounters the virus, it can become temporarily infected, and the cat’s immune system gets to work ‘dealing’ with it. In most cases, the cat’s immune system will win and the virus will be beaten. However, during this period the cat will test positive for the virus. After about 12 weeks, through the more complex test at a laboratory, it will usually be clear if the cat has successfully shaken off the virus. Alternatively, the virus may have taken a hold and that cat will then be persistently infected. From: KATHLEEN BUSO Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 10:13 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia Hi, I am looking for advice about our little Oreo. We adopted him at 9 weeks from a rescue group. His mom was a stray who was ill when she had her kittens. The kittens were eventually bottle fed and had a rough start in life, but then seemed to recover and were adopted out. About two weeks ago, our Oreo started to show signs of illness. His inner third eyelid came out, and then he started running a fever. I took him to the Rescue's vet, and she gave me antibiotics and some metacam to bring down the fever. She said the mom had been tested for a bunch of viruses, including feline leukemia and came back negative, so there was no reason to test Oreo. A week later, he was worse so I took him to another vet and she tested him and told me he tested positive for feline leukemia. Up until yesterday, he seemed to still have a fairly good appetite but was sleeping a lot and showing symptoms of upper respiratory infection. Today he is uninterested in food and seems much worse. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions that would help, or should I just accept that there's nothing that can be done? We were considering trying the LCTI drug but we live in Canada so we would have to travel into the States to get it. It would be about a 3.5 hour drive there and would
Re: [Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia
I have used the LCTI drug and had it shipped from the U.S. to Canada, to my vets. I had absolutely no success with it. We carefully monitored our little boy’s blood work for 4 to 6 months and there was no change in things like his haemoglobin levels and retic counts. Try Stanazalol (Winstrol) instead. It is an anabolic steroid and as I explained in my earlier posts, we had immediate and stunning results with it. It also helps improve appetite and general well-being while improving red cell production. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of KATHLEEN BUSO Sent: June-28-15 10:13 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia Hi, I am looking for advice about our little Oreo. We adopted him at 9 weeks from a rescue group. His mom was a stray who was ill when she had her kittens. The kittens were eventually bottle fed and had a rough start in life, but then seemed to recover and were adopted out. About two weeks ago, our Oreo started to show signs of illness. His inner third eyelid came out, and then he started running a fever. I took him to the Rescue's vet, and she gave me antibiotics and some metacam to bring down the fever. She said the mom had been tested for a bunch of viruses, including feline leukemia and came back negative, so there was no reason to test Oreo. A week later, he was worse so I took him to another vet and she tested him and told me he tested positive for feline leukemia. Up until yesterday, he seemed to still have a fairly good appetite but was sleeping a lot and showing symptoms of upper respiratory infection. Today he is uninterested in food and seems much worse. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions that would help, or should I just accept that there's nothing that can be done? We were considering trying the LCTI drug but we live in Canada so we would have to travel into the States to get it. It would be about a 3.5 hour drive there and would be hard on Oreo, as he hates the car. Has anyone used LCTI and had any success with it? Is there anything else I can do for Oreo now, to help him feel better, like steroids? Any suggestions or advice would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Kathleen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia
Hi, I am looking for advice about our little Oreo. We adopted him at 9 weeks from a rescue group. His mom was a stray who was ill when she had her kittens. The kittens were eventually bottle fed and had a rough start in life, but then seemed to recover and were adopted out. About two weeks ago, our Oreo started to show signs of illness. His inner third eyelid came out, and then he started running a fever. I took him to the Rescue's vet, and she gave me antibiotics and some metacam to bring down the fever. She said the mom had been tested for a bunch of viruses, including feline leukemia and came back negative, so there was no reason to test Oreo. A week later, he was worse so I took him to another vet and she tested him and told me he tested positive for feline leukemia. Up until yesterday, he seemed to still have a fairly good appetite but was sleeping a lot and showing symptoms of upper respiratory infection. Today he is uninterested in food and seems much worse. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions that would help, or should I just accept that there's nothing that can be done? We were considering trying the LCTI drug but we live in Canada so we would have to travel into the States to get it. It would be about a 3.5 hour drive there and would be hard on Oreo, as he hates the car. Has anyone used LCTI and had any success with it? Is there anything else I can do for Oreo now, to help him feel better, like steroids? Any suggestions or advice would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Kathleen___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
