Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone Home?
I too have not received many messages in the past few weeks Sent from my iPhone. > On Oct 7, 2013, at 13:43, "Amanda K. Payne" wrote: > > I've been getting messages, though very sporadically. I'll get some right > away but most I get a month, sometimes two, late. Not sure what's going on. > > >> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:30 AM, kat wrote: >> I'm here - tho I mainly just lurk these days.. >> >> It has been quiet. >> >> Kat (Mew Jersey) >> >> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: Lee Evans >>> Sent: 10/07/13 01:25 PM >>> To: Felvtalk >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Anyone Home? >>> >>> I haven't received any messages from the group in over two weeks! Yahoo was >>> sending back my messages with the information that the address no longer >>> exists. What gives? >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > -- > "There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge" Bertrand Russell > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: virus has finally caught up with her :-(
Hi, I'm keeping you her in my prayers. You are getting some very good advice here but the main thing is to get her hydrated right now. Sent from my iPhone. > On Oct 10, 2013, at 8:46, "Katherine K." wrote: > > I agree with Lee. A few spoonfuls of pate are not enough if she has stopped > eating. She should probably be getting about 1 can per day. Hills AD is very > soft, I don't even mix it up with water. Ask the vet to give you some > syringes that arent too narrow of an opening. I use the 10mL (aka 10cc) ones, > fill several up at a time, then just start with the feeding, squirting 1 cc > on the side of the tongue at a time. There can be some messy trial and error > at first. How is she doing today? > > >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Lee Evans wrote: >> Using a feeding syringe (3cc syringe) is better than stuffing pate in her >> mouth. You have to blend the pate with some soup (not with onion though) >> until it's like very thick cream and give her about a half syringe at a >> time. Towel on lap, tissue box nearby at hand, cat on lap, soft loving talk >> to cat, syringe at corner of mouth is how I syringe feed my cats during >> illness. Be sure to wipe her mouth frequently and do the feeding slowly. It >> may take almost a half hour but if you do it with loving murmurs, she will >> feel that she is spending quality time with you instead of having food >> stuffed into her mouth. Feeding tubes are invasive and uncomfortable for >> cats and should be a last resort. I usually use Hills A/D as it's a very >> soft pate made for syringe feeding ill cats. You buy it at the vet clinic. >> Get about 5 cans as you will be throwing away left overs that have already >> been blended. Try to get a half a can at a time into her. Once you syringe >> feed for a short time, their regular appetite takes over. Also, I would >> recommend you ask your vet about a antibiotic injection instead of pills or >> liquid. >> >> >> >> On Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:01 AM, Margo >> wrote: >> >> >> Hi Jennifer, >>Well, I think she will need some help. I am surprised >> that a Vet allowed a dehydrated cat to leave without doing something about >> it, so I'd call and ask why. It's good that she is drinking, but it is >> impossible to correct clinical dehydration orally, she must have either IV >> or sub-q fluids. That alone MAY be enough (combined with the B-12) to start >> her eating again, it can be miraculous. If you don't want to try the >> Clavamox, then take her (what is her name?) in and request sub-q fluids (and >> have them show you how to do it at home) and ask about Convenia, a >> long-lasting injectable antibiotic. I don't generally recommend it, but it's >> better than nothing, and less stressful for both of you. Explain that >> medicating orally seems too stressful. You could ask about appetite >> stimulants, but they need to be given by mouth as well, so maybe you don't >> want to try. >>Much depends on how far you want to go. Sub-q's and >> assist feedings aren't difficult to do, but you may not have the time to >> give to this. I would say, even if you decide not to continue long-term >> care, get to the Vet (or another of you don't want to go back there) TODAY >> for sub-q or IV fluids, and see if that helps.. If you have to work, most >> Vets will allow drop-off. >>Please help her by getting the dehydration resolved. >> She feels totally lousy, and of course doesn't want to eat, or move. At >> least she will feel better, and that's critical, whatever course you elect >> to follow. >> All the best, >> Margo >> -Original Message- >> From: Jennifer Ballew >> Sent: Oct 9, 2013 9:40 PM >> To: felvtalk >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: virus has finally caught up with her :-( >> >> They took her temp yesterday and no fever. She's not showing any outward >> signs of infection, so that's good I guess. I'm just wondering if she's >> going to be able to pull out of this. :-( >> Jennifer >> On Oct 9, 2013 8:27 PM, "moonsister22" wrote: >> Regular cats can also have those symptoms. The B12 shot is good. Does she >> have a fever? Many doctors completely neglect the simple task of taking the >> cat's temperature. An antibiotic injection might be of benefit. My hard and >> fast rule is to think "simple" first. My FIV positive cat had a lump on his >> back. It was diagnosed as probably a malignant tumor. I suggested it was a >> non-malignant fatty tumor. Three years later Mr. Snowy is still fat and >> going strong and the tumor has absorbed. Maybe it's luck and they will use >> up the last of their nine lives eventually but until then start off simple >> but cautious and do always take to vet but listen with both ears open and >> your brain cells on high alert. >> >> Hugs and blessings to you and the fur kids. >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Jenn
[Felvtalk] Gum redness
Hello everyone, Kitty, our 16 months old FeLV positive cat is showing a little redness on her gums on her bottom left incisors. I have rubbed a little liquid vitamin E and she has received a dosage of Calcarea carbonica, I'm working with a holistic vet, but I was wondering what if any steps have any of you taken when faced with this situation. Thanks, Mally and Kitty Sent from my iPhone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pale gums
Hi Amanda, Can you please tell me more about Petinic and transfer factor? Thanks, Sent from my iPhone. > On Oct 29, 2013, at 13:31, "Amanda K. Payne" wrote: > > Hello Katherine, > > I definitely have to back Heather here. Pale gums and eating litter are very > indicative of anemia. Earlier this year, our sweet girl Polli, started > licking walls and clay planters. She slowly lost interest in her toys and > food. By the time I took her to the vet, she was severely anemic. The vet > didn't think she had more than a week and was hesitant to treat her. She was > also about six months when she started showing symptoms. > > We gave her Pet-tinic and Transfer Factor Plus in addition to a vitamin-rich > diet and a lot of pampering. She fought through the anemia but we lost her > to FIP five months later. > > I would suggest taking him to the vet as soon as possible. The earlier you > catch anemia, the better the chances are of treating it. > > >> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Heather wrote: >> Yes, definitely. I would get him in asap (today). This is a worry with any >> kitty and especially felv+ kitties. Last time someone told me their cat was >> eating litter, he died soon after even though they got him to the vet >> (probably needed a transfusion which I don't think they tried). >> >> Again not to scare you but given pale gums + eating litter, would rather err >> to the side of caution and say get him in asap as that's definitely >> worriesome. >> >> >>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Katherine K. wrote: >>> Thanks. After doing few searches on the listserv archive and reading past >>> posts I wanted to add that I also have found him a couple of times recently >>> eating litter (the kind he was eating was Worlds Best Cat Litter made from >>> corn, but he also uses clay litter) and he has a tendency to lick the >>> shower drain after my shower. Seems like those could also be symptoms of >>> anemia..missing a mineral or something. >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Heather wrote: Pale gums can indicate anemia, if gums are white they are usually near death. I'd get the kitty's PCV (packed cell volume) checked asap. FELV+ cats are particularly prone to anemia, I don't have any FELV+ cats and think sometimes it is non-regenerative but some here might have some advice. Not to scare you, but anemia is something that needs to be addressed quickly. > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Katherine K. wrote: > Just saw Avaykn's email as I was writing this. I have the opposite > problem - pale gums. > > One of my positive kittens Terence has started looking/feeling a little > skinny and his usually short sleek fur has a more raggedy look to it. I > checked his gums this morning and they were pale compared to his 3 > siblings (who are also positive). He is 6 months old. They are on lysine > and getting wet and dry food. > > I'm going to try adding fortiflora and get some lixotinic from the vet. > Appetite seems normal, he's still active/playful but perhaps less so than > usual. > > Katherine > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > -- > "There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge" Bertrand Russell > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Gum redness
Hi Beth, Thank you so much, she gets : lysine 500mg a day a feline multivitamin, Tabby tabs, Missing link amino supplement Mush a powdery mix of mushrooms Is there anything else I might be missing to give her. She is at a little over 10lbs and gets canned food twice a day and dr Lisa Pierson's raw chicken recipe once a day. Thanks, Mally Sent from my iPhone. > On Oct 29, 2013, at 21:17, Beth wrote: > > It could be the beginnings of Stomatitis. It's pretty common in the FeLV > kits. I've had a couple with it. Nasty stuff. Try the L-lysine. I used that > with something else once & it worked great, but I can't for the life of me > remember what it was. > > Beth > > Avaykn wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> Kitty, our 16 months old FeLV positive cat is showing a little redness on >> her gums on her bottom left incisors. I have rubbed a little liquid vitamin >> E and she has received a dosage of Calcarea carbonica, I'm working with a >> holistic vet, but I was wondering what if any steps have any of you taken >> when faced with this situation. >> Thanks, >> >> Mally and Kitty >> Sent from my iPhone. >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Gum redness
Hello, Thank you so much, she gets : lysine 500mg a day a feline multivitamin, Tabby tabs, Missing link amino supplement Mush a powdery mix of mushrooms Is there anything else I might be missing to give her. She is at a little over 10lbs and gets canned food twice a day and dr Lisa Pierson's raw chicken recipe once a day. Do you think adding DMG, interferon, pet tinic and/or transfer factor plus would help? Thanks, Mally Sent from my iPhone. > On Oct 29, 2013, at 23:04, wrote: > > You can get DMG without a prescription at Amazon, and > I imagine many other places. That's where I get it. > > Chris C. > > > -Original Message- From: Lance > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:32 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Gum redness > > Just saw your post here and on the Yahoo! list, but thought that it’d be > better if I replied here. > > Before we knew my FeLV+ cat was FeLV+, her then-vet said that her gums were > becoming irritated, and that I needed to switch her to Prescription Diet t/d. > I did, and the irritation seemed to go away. She hasn't had any stomatitis or > gingivitis issues since then *that I know of*. > > I don’t know that this is the best solution to Kitty’s issue, but it might be > something you could look into as a supplemental option, if she’s good about > eating dry food and you think she’s not to the point where it hurts to eat. I > don’t give Ember t/d as free-fed dry food any more, but instead give it to > her as a treat (four or five pieces in the morning and again at night). > Prescription Diet is not the best food, but the texture/composition of this > particular formula seem to help with teeth and gum problems. > > I think it would be good to consider giving Kitty interferon alpha and/or > DMG. The latter is very inexpensive and easy to dose (either in semi-hard > treat form or liquid form), and it does boost the immune system a bit. Your > holistic vet might be able to tell you more about DMG and interferon. > > Best wishes for Kitty, > > Lance > >> On Oct 29, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Avaykn wrote: >> >> Hi Beth, >> Thank you so much, she gets : >> lysine 500mg a day >> a feline multivitamin, Tabby tabs, >> Missing link amino supplement >> Mush a powdery mix of mushrooms >> Is there anything else I might be missing to give her. >> She is at a little over 10lbs and gets canned food twice a day and dr Lisa >> Pierson's raw chicken recipe once a day. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mally >> >> Sent from my iPhone. >> >>> On Oct 29, 2013, at 21:17, Beth wrote: >>> >>> It could be the beginnings of Stomatitis. It's pretty common in the FeLV >>> kits. I've had a couple with it. Nasty stuff. Try the L-lysine. I used >>> that with something else once & it worked great, but I can't for the life >>> of me remember what it was. >>> >>> Beth >>> >>> Avaykn wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> Kitty, our 16 months old FeLV positive cat is showing a little redness on >>>> her gums on her bottom left incisors. I have rubbed a little liquid >>>> vitamin E and she has received a dosage of Calcarea carbonica, I'm working >>>> with a holistic vet, but I was wondering what if any steps have any of you >>>> taken when faced with this situation. >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Mally and Kitty >>>> Sent from my iPhone. >>>> ___ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bunny Passed Away This Evening
Dear Lee, My deepest condolences on your loss! Bless you for caring for little Bunny! Mally Sent from my iPhone. > On Oct 31, 2013, at 20:02, "Bonnie Hogue" wrote: > > Lee > Condolences on the loss of your little Bunny. Sounds like she had a good > life with you, Samson and Delilah. You did all you could. I wish you luck > in helping the others, and hope your heart break heals soon, through the > memory of your furry friend. > Peace > Bonnie > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee > Evans > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:50 PM > To: Felvtalk > Subject: [Felvtalk] Bunny Passed Away This Evening > > She came to me two and a half years ago when she was around 9 months old. She > had been abandoned at an apartment complex, rescued but then tested FeLv+. > She was brought to me to see if she would turn negative. She did! I kept her > anyway because she had a few bad habits, like biting my fingers when I was > sleeping and trying to tear apart my iPod headphones. She was very > mischievous. I named her Bunny because she was brought to me on Easter > Sunday. She has lived with me and two other cats in my bedroom/home office > since that Easter in 2011. About two weeks ago I noticed a change in her > behavior. She no longer pestered Delilah, the resident female cat in the room > and she seemed to lose interest in sleeping on the bed with me and Samson and > Delilah (the two other cats in the room). However she was eating normally and > nothing else seemed out of place. I assumed that it was the change in the > weather from very hot to nice, cool evenings and then to rain. On Saturday of > last week she seemed lethargic. She was not eating her usual amount of food > and not drinking her usual amount of water. I checked her gums to see if it > might be stomatitis or some bad tooth upsetting her but her gums were very > pale and so was her tongue. I immediately thought it was flea anemia. I took > her to the vet on Tuesday because Monday is usually very busy with dogs > there. She was more lethargic and depressed by then and her appetite had all > but disappeared. She was still drinking water. She had no fleas so I asked > the vet to re-test her for FeLv. Sure enough, she was positive. She had all > the classic symptoms of active FeLv. I was heart broken but still, I asked > him to give her some meds to make her more comfortable and perhaps get back > her appetite. He gave her cortisone. Today, she was no better. She just lay > on her towel and couldn't make it to the litter box although it was just a > few steps away. I took her in again and he gave her some fluids, not too much > because he said it would make her even more anemic. He gave her a little more > cortisone to try to kick start her appetite. I had been syringe feeding her > by then. He also gave her a small dose of Convenia and some B-complex but > nothing helped. She passed several hours after the vet visit. I probably > should have had him help her pass but I just didn't want to give up hope. > > There is a question here, in all this upsetting dialog. My other two cats who > slept with me and Bunny and groomed each other, ate with each other, drank > and used the same litter box are around 7 years old. The vet told me that > once they are into adulthood, they are not as likely to get FeLv as they > would if they were under 2 years old. Is this true? I will have them tested > in about 3 weeks anyway to see what happened, if anything. Also, has anyone > had the experience of a young cat throwing off the virus and turning > negative, then turning positive again after a year, or was that second test > after I had held her in isolation for 4 months a false negative? > > Right now I'm fostering a kitten who has tested negative for FIV/FeLv. She is > several rooms away from where Bunny has lived. They never came in contact > with each other but I have walked from my bedroom into the kitten's room to > feed, clean, etc.. Did I put her at risk? > > This is desperately upsetting. I have decided not to take in any more fosters > with FeLv. I have never had this happen before. Most of my "turned" cats are > still with me and are well into several years of adulthood. I usually don't > have good results with getting turned cats adopted because most people don't > want the possibility that the cat is harboring the disease. Maybe Bunny had > it in her bone marrow and tested negative on the regular SNAP test. I should > have tested with the IFA also but don't have much money to spare. > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pale gums
Yes Sent from my iPhone. > On Nov 7, 2013, at 23:48, Tad Burnett wrote: > > >Is this list still up ?? > >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Best litter for FeLV?
I use to use worlds best but just now switched to Dr Elsey precious cat, works great so far. Sent from my iPhone. > On Nov 11, 2013, at 8:47, KG BarnCats wrote: > > We really love Dr Elsey Precious Cat multi cat litter. Lowest dust of any > I've seen plus cats love it. Did side by side testing with numerous other > brand incl Swheat and Worlds Best, my cats strongly preferred it. Clumps > great. I use giant rubbermaid tubs so few clumps are by the sides making > scooping fast and easy. There is a fax in rebate for a free first bag on > their website also a 100% usage guarantee. Cant do better than that. > > Kg > > On Sunday, November 10, 2013, Beth wrote: > > Or heartworms. > > > > Katherine Kershaw wrote: > > > >>May also want to consider pneumonia as a cause for coughing. Xray can > >>determine it. Is it phlegmy sounding? My cat was swallowing, coughing, had > >>a gurgly sounding purr and was diagnosed with a little pneumonia. Cleared > >>up with antibiotics. > >> > >>Beth wrote: > >> > >>>They make sifting litter boxes just for the pine litter. you just sift it > >>>to the bottom. And, yes, go to the feed store & get the equine once you > >>>have determined your cats will actually use it. > >>> > >>>Beth > >>> > >>>Lee Evans wrote: > >>> > Feline does not have dust when pouring but it turns into a find yellow > powder after it breaks down. It's nice and inexpensive where I am because > I get pine pellets from a local feed store at $6 for 40#. But it takes a > lot of sweeping up after it's used for a while. > > > > > > On Sunday, November 10, 2013 2:05 PM, Beth > wrote: > > Hi Tina - > > > >SWeat Scoop also harden to a cement-like texture that is horribly > >difficult to get out . I had to take a hammer to it. > >You might want to try Feline Pine. Some cats don't like the texture, but > >it doesn't have the dust. Also World's Best (corn based) or the new Blue > >Buffalo (Walnut Based). My cats & I like the BB best. > >I also if your litter box is covered, but that can cause asthmatic > >problems. > > > >Beth > > > > > > > > > >Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Tina Smith > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:56 AM > >Subject: [Felvtalk] Best litter for FeLV? > > > > > > > >Hi all, > > > > > >I have an FeLV+ kitty. He has been mostly healthy but is currently > >going through something that is causing a lot of coughing. We have > >noticed that he seems sensitive to the drier air of winter and perhaps > >has some environmental allergies. In addition to other things we are > >doing I am trying to find a dust-free cat litter for him. Last night I > >spent a small fortune on SWheatScoop litter and was appalled to see all > >of the dust that went flying when we put it in his litter pan. So much > >for dust-free. Has anyone here had luck finding a litter that is good > >to use for our FeLV+ sweeties? > > > > > >I'll also tell you a little more about what he's going through in case > >anybody has some insight into what might be causing it. The vet wasn't > >helpful. Just gave him a Convenia antibiotic injection but couldn't say > >what the problem might be except possibly pleural effusion. Darwin is > >coughing a lot - a little like the "hairball cough" but not exactly. He > >seems to be breathing mostly okay through his nose, although I have > >noticed occasionally that there does seem to be a little congestion. > >There has been no open-mouth breathing. He had a bout of diarrhea for a > >couple of days this past week but seemed to get over that. Now I think > >he might actually be constipated. When he coughs nothing comes out but > >he does swallow as if he has coughed a little something up and then > >swallows it. I have almost wondered if he might have an obstruction but > >it does seem to be affecting his breathing some. I haven't been able to > >pinpoint any triggers. He > has coughed after drinking water, he has coughed when the heat was on, > he has coughed right after using the litter box. But he has also > coughed when he's just resting on the bed and nothing is going on. > > > > > >Any insight would be so welcome. > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Said goodbye to Terence (and also got a bite!)
I'm so sorry for your loss. We have all been there and it's heartbreaking to have to go through this! God bless you, Sent from my iPhone. > On Dec 16, 2013, at 20:13, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote: > > so very sorry about baby terrence. > > > >> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Katherine K. wrote: >> >> We said good bye to one of our 8 month old FeLV kittens, Terence, >> yesterday. He had been declining for a couple of weeks and was very thin, >> and definitely not as active has his 3 siblings still are. We tried making >> him eat wet food but it just wasn't working and the last day or two we >> didn't hear any purring. So we felt it was time for him to be in a better >> place. >> >> As the vet was giving him the first injection to anesthetize him he >> squirmed around and bit me on the first knuckle and cuticle area of my >> finger. I've been scratched millions of times by cats and know how to >> clean scratches, but had never actually been bitten. I had been following >> this thread all weekend so I let it bleed out, then cleaned it up after we >> got home with him. Overnight my finger swelled up and looks infected, and I >> have a strange pain in my armpit (same arm) that I'm wondering if it's >> related. >> >> I took a couple of Cephalexin doses but I'm going to the doc this morning >> since it's still pretty painful and swollen. >> >> We've had Terence and his siblings since they were 2 weeks old back in >> April. Yesterday was a bittersweet day but I'm relieved knowing he's no >> longer languishing. I'm also grateful for this listserv. >> >> Katherine >> >> >> -- >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Prayers needed for Bear
You are in my prayers ! Sent from my iPhone. > On Dec 24, 2013, at 20:39, Jennifer Lewis wrote: > > Bear, > > You're in my Christmas prayers. > > Jen >> On Dec 24, 2013, at 4:15 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: >> >> Turns out it does not look like FIP, looks like hemolytic anemia, where he >> is killing off his own red blood cells, and the vet simply did not keep him >> on a high enough dose of immune-suppressants so he crashed again. Now he is >> really bad. I don't know what his chances are at this point, but I do not >> think they are good, though the vets say he can turn around. He just got a >> transfusion and they are starting him on cyclosporine, a stronger immune >> suppressant. And doxycycline. >> >> Please send him prayers. He is FIV+, not FeLV+, though he has had as many >> issues as my FeLV cats did. I got back on this list looking for feline >> interferon, which I don't need, but one thing I know this list is good for >> is prayers. Please pray it's a good Christmas for Bear and he responds well >> to the transfusion and the cyclosporine. >> >> thank you, >> Michelle >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] euthanized Shallie Marie, yesterday the last of "my"
You are in my thoughts and prayers. With love, Mally Sent from my iPhone. > On Jan 4, 2014, at 15:40, Beth wrote: > > > So sorry! My thoughts are with you & the fur baby. > > Beth > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > > From: czadna sacarawicz ; > To: feline leukemia list ; > Subject: [Felvtalk] euthanized Shallie Marie, yesterday the last of "my" > Sent: Sat, Jan 4, 2014 7:53:53 PM > > six that tested positive in March 2010. > Thanks for being with us - - lights in the darkness. I had suspected she was > crashing. Vets thought it was dental . . . two weeks later. will leave it > there. > Now she joins her intrepid son Isaac, Mama and Luscious, Torie Rose and > BreAnne. > > cz > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Teeth redness and brushing
Hi everyone, Kitty, my 18 month old FeLV positive cat, is in good health except for having lost three incisors on the bottom of her jaw and two on the top. Both her holistic vet and regular vet say it's really no big deal as the rest of her month looks healthy. She has little redness on the bottom of her teeth and a little in the back of her mouth too now, I noticed two days ago while brushing. Her regular vet saw her two days ago and he said not to brush her teeth anymore as it might be making things worst but I'm not sure I agree with this. Any thoughts from anyone of you? Best, Mally Sent from my iPhone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] [FeLVPositiveCats] Too little appetite
Thank you for all your advice. I did give her dry kibbles last night and she did eat them. I'm taking her to my regular vet at 4:30 today and I just got off the phone with our holistic vet who also recommended taking her to get some blood work done as well as a B12 shot. Please keep Kitty in your thoughts and prayers that all is normal and she is just being finicky. Thanks Mally Sent from my iPhone. > On Feb 27, 2014, at 9:19, Andrew Werner wrote: > > You might want to try baby food. Look at the label and get some without > added onion (onion can cause a kind of anemia in cats). Sometimes 5-6 > seconds in the microwave to make it smell better helps. > > Last resort - try dry kibble. Some of ours see that stuff the way we see > potato chips - greasy and good-tasting. If Kitty does go for the kibble, > provide water along with it to avoid dehydration and/or urinary problems. > > I do not know where you are located but if you are someplace where Spring is > coming and the weather is changing, be aware that they sense that kind of > thing and might change their dietary habits in response. > > Best of luck. > > Purrs to you and yours > Andrew > of Andrew & Lizzie > Purrkins Diesel Cat, Fuzzy-Xena, Zoro, Zippy, Wellington, Alfred, Bobby, > Tactical, Suzi-Q, Pinkie, Morse, Lillian, Ichabod, Dorothy, and Rasputin - in > East Bernard, Texas USA > > > From: Maryam Ulomi > To: felvpositivec...@yahoogroups.com; "" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:15 PM > Subject: [FeLVPositiveCats] Too little appetite > > Hello everyone, > > Kitty, our little 19 months old FeLV positive cat, has for the past three > days been eating less than usual. I have tried all sort of new canned foods > but she eats a little bit and then walks away. She will eat maybe 1/3 of what > she would normally eat in one meal then walk away sometimes she comes back to > it but mostly she will want something else. If I give it to her in a new bowl > she might it or not. > She has not stopped eating all together but I'm concerned that she is not > eating as much as previously. > She plays, poops and pees, does not hide, is otherwise her usual adorable > self. > Has anyone seen these signs before? > I don't know if i should take her to the vet or wait. > > > Thanks, > > Malls and Kitty. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > Yahoo Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FeLVPositiveCats/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FeLVPositiveCats/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > felvpositivecats-dig...@yahoogroups.com > felvpositivecats-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > felvpositivecats-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to: > https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/ > > > > __._,_.___ > Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New > Topic Messages in this topic (3) > VISIT YOUR GROUP > • Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use > . > > __,_._,___ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Blood transfusion
Hello, Took Kitty, 1 months old FeLV positive cat to the vet a few hours ago because she was not eating very much. She had lost a little weigh, her temperature was at 101, we did a blood panel and her PCV is at 21.7 and her red blood cell at 5.28. Her holistic vet is recommending a remedy to help and her regular vet is recommending a blood transfusion. What are your experiences with these routes ? __._,_.__ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Blood transfusion
She is 18 months Sent from my iPhone. > On Feb 27, 2014, at 18:55, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: > > I have never heard a transfusion recommended at PCV of 21. That is considered > moderate anemia, not severe, and transfusions are usually reserved for severe > (under 15 or even 13). Part of the reason is that cats can have allergic or > auto-immune reactions to transfusions so they normally only give them when > needed to preserve life, and part of the reason is the limited availability > of blood. > > I have gotten transfusions for 2 cats in the past, both when their PCV was > below 13. In both cases they helped for a very short time. In the first case, > it helped keep a cat alive (who was FeLV+) long enough for chemo to kick in > at which point his count went up for a while until the chemo stopped working. > The second cat was Bear, who I lost recently, who was FIV+ and had hemolytic > anemia, where he was killing off his red blood cells. He got 2 transfusions > on one day and another a 5 days later. In both cases the transfusions raised > his PCV a little for a couple days and then he started killing of the > transfused blood too, and he died 3 days after the last transfusion. > > If the anemia is from something less serious or slower moving, a transfusion > can last longer. But because of the associated risks, vets normally wait > longer to do it. > > At 21.7, her anemia could be from some systemic issue like an infection or > cancer. They get anemia when they are very sick from something else and if > that thing is resolved the anemia resolves. So it may not get worse if you > can solve whatever else is going on or treat it at least temporarily. Or she > could have nonregenerative anemia and it will slowly get worse. But in that > case she should adjust to the lower count after a few day and not be floored > by it until it gets much lower. > > So I think I would go another route other than transfusion at first, and see > if you can determine and treat whatever else is going on. 101 is not a fever > for a cat, it's in the middle of normal, so she is not feverish. What is her > white blood cell count? But if you do not do the transfusion, I would get her > blood count rechecked soon to make sure it is not going down very fast, in > which case you may need to soon. > > Is she really only 4 weeks old? You said 1 months, so I don't know if the 1 > is the typo or the plural months. If she is 4 weeks old, it's possible that > this changes things and vets would transfuse faster. But I also never heard > of a kitten that young getting a transfusion. > > Michelle > -Original Message- > From: Avaykn > To: FeLVPositiveCats ; felvtalk > > Sent: Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:45 pm > Subject: [Felvtalk] Blood transfusion > > Hello, > Took Kitty, 1 months old FeLV positive cat to the vet a few hours ago because > she was not eating very much. > She had lost a little weigh, her temperature was at 101, we did a blood panel > and her PCV is at 21.7 and her red blood cell at 5.28. > Her holistic vet is recommending a remedy to help and her regular vet is > recommending a blood transfusion. > What are your experiences with these routes ? > __._,_.___ > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
