Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Xana to the CLS

[Esther Jorda]

Sara, Lynda and you all,

Thank you very much for your sympathy.
I will keep fighting for their welfare.

2011/7/20 Sara Kasteleyn 

> Esther, I'm so sorry for your loss.  We will add a candle to light her way
> to Rainbow Bridge tonight.
>
> A hug for you in your sorrow,  Sara
>
>
> --Original Mail--
> From: "Esther Jorda" 
> To: 
> Snt: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:56:40 +0200
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Xana to the CLS
>
> Xana passed away last Thursday of severe anemia. Xana got much worse in the
> last two weeks. Nothing could help her.
> She has not reached 3 years.
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Xana to the CLS

[Esther Jorda]

Thanks Natalie, I am very sorry for you and your kitty as well

this is the worst with cats, they can be very bad and they are beautiful and
you do not realize they are really ill

2011/7/20 Natalie 

> I am so sorry, Esther!  It's always so hard to lose a furry one.  Last
> week,
> unexpectedly, and without any warning, one of the very healthy" 15 yr old
> cats started having some problems on Monday night.  We had to euthanize him
> on Friday morning - he had a huge growth in his colon, it actually came out
> with the colon like a huge sausageno weight loss, eating normally, etc.
> - he must have been in pain or at least some discomfort for a while, but
> NEVER let on!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Esther Jorda
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:57 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Xana to the CLS
>
>  Xana passed away last Thursday of severe anemia. Xana got much worse in
> the
> last two weeks. Nothing could help her.
> She has not reached 3 years.
>
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[Felvtalk] Please add Xana to the CLS

[Esther Jorda]

Xana passed away last Thursday of severe anemia. Xana got much worse in the
last two weeks. Nothing could help her.
She has not reached 3 years.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

[Esther Jorda]

I am in Barcelona,Spain. Xana do not have uveitis, but one of her eyes has
an old injury. She has been on L-Lysine for last two years
El 14/06/2011 22:10, "HIDEYO YAMAMOTO"  escribió:
>
> What country are you in?
>
> I also rescue, I lost so many cats to dry FIP in the past - how is her
eye? - is there any uevitis in either of her eye?
> Lysine may also help if she has chronic URI.
>
> Hideyo
>
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:53:00 +0200
>> From: estherjo...@gmail.com
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
>>
>> Thank you for your answer. Indeed, FIP is always a posibility, but in
this
>> case, is not clear and the antibiotic good response seems to confirm it.
I
>> had dealed with PIF 4 times and know well it. The wet is not worried
about
>> it. But, in any case, I am not sure about toxoplasma. Protein is altered,
>> high gamma but normal albumina in blood work . A/G ratio is 0,4. The
anemia
>> is caused because the Fel viruses is in the bone marrow. The vet suggest
low
>> dose omega interferon orally, at long term... Xana also has chronic flu,
i
>> mean feline herpesvirus.
>>
>> Btw i am cat rescue person, Xana was trapped when she was a kitten I was
>> lucky to find a fostering home. She is the only cat at home...
>> Well, any idea will be very usefull
>> And sorry, english is not my language. Thanks again
>> El 14/06/2011 21:30, "HIDEYO YAMAMOTO" 
escribió:
>> >
>> > I have used feline omega interferon on many many cats in the past -
there
>> really is no side effect I have experienced with my cats.
>> > it's been said, when used for a long term, it may suppress their bone
>> marrow, which may cause anemia - but this never happens when using for a
>> short term.
>> > What was the lab work look like? Did your vet suspect dry FIP by any
>> chance - you will normally see elevated gloublin/decreased albumin - and
>> sometimes elevated bilrubin with mild anmeia -
>> > The symptoms of dry FIP can be similar to toxoplasimosis -
>> >
>> > Hideyo
>> >
>> >> From: longhornf...@verizon.net
>> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> >> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:52:54 -0500
>> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
>> >>
>> >> I thought FeLV stood for Feline Leukemia Virus
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: "Natalie" 
>> >> To: 
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:37 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Leukemia or FeLV?
>> >> > I had a cat that had leukemia (not FeLV) and she died very quickly -
we
>>
>> >> > had
>> >> > no idea when it started...she began feeling tired, then got a
low-grade
>> >> > fever
>> >> >
>> >> > -Original Message-
>> >> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>> >> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Esther
Jorda
>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:28 AM
>> >> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> >> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
>> >> >
>> >> > Xana, my baby is now 2,5 yo. I suspect she developped leukemia,
>> although
>> >> > the
>> >> > vet is not 100% sure.
>> >> >
>> >> > She is now with antibiotics. She had fever, convulsions, ataxia...
>> Blood
>> >> > work shows anaemia, hematocrit 25%. white cells were highly
increased.
>> >> > Toxoplasma vas positive to igg( 1/10), (igm negative, < 1/10).
>> >> >
>> >> > About Felv the vet suggest to put her under omega interferon orally,
at
>>
>> >> > low
>> >> > dose... dayly for at least 3 months.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am asking about side effects... can you give us some advise??
>> >> >
>> >> > --
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>> >> > Esther
>> >> > = ^..^ =
>> >> > adopta a
>> >> > Gracia<
>> http://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/search/label/1.3.Adoptar%20en%2
>> >> > 0Gracia><
>> http://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/2010/09/adoptar-en-gracia.htm
>> >> > l>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

[Esther Jorda]

Thank you for your answer. Indeed, FIP is always a posibility, but in this
case, is not clear and the antibiotic good response seems to confirm it. I
had dealed with PIF 4 times and know well it. The wet is not worried about
it. But, in any case, I am not sure about toxoplasma. Protein is altered,
high gamma but normal albumina in blood work .  A/G ratio is 0,4. The anemia
is caused because the Fel viruses is in the bone marrow. The vet suggest low
dose  omega interferon orally, at long term... Xana also has chronic flu, i
mean feline herpesvirus.

Btw i am cat rescue person, Xana was trapped when she was a kitten I was
lucky to find a fostering home. She is the only cat at home...
Well, any idea will be very usefull
And sorry, english is not my language. Thanks again
El 14/06/2011 21:30, "HIDEYO YAMAMOTO"  escribió:
>
> I have used feline omega interferon on many many cats in the past - there
really is no side effect I have experienced with my cats.
> it's been said, when used for a long term, it may suppress their bone
marrow, which may cause anemia - but this never happens when using for a
short term.
> What was the lab work look like? Did your vet suspect dry FIP by any
chance - you will normally see elevated gloublin/decreased albumin - and
sometimes elevated bilrubin with mild anmeia -
> The symptoms of dry FIP can be similar to toxoplasimosis -
>
> Hideyo
>
>> From: longhornf...@verizon.net
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:52:54 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
>>
>> I thought FeLV stood for Feline Leukemia Virus
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Natalie" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
>>
>>
>> > Leukemia or FeLV?
>> > I had a cat that had leukemia (not FeLV) and she died very quickly - we

>> > had
>> > no idea when it started...she began feeling tired, then got a low-grade
>> > fever
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Esther Jorda
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:28 AM
>> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
>> >
>> > Xana, my baby is now 2,5 yo. I suspect she developped leukemia,
although
>> > the
>> > vet is not 100% sure.
>> >
>> > She is now with antibiotics. She had fever, convulsions, ataxia...
Blood
>> > work shows anaemia, hematocrit 25%. white cells were highly increased.
>> > Toxoplasma vas positive to igg( 1/10), (igm negative, < 1/10).
>> >
>> > About Felv the vet suggest to put her under omega interferon orally, at

>> > low
>> > dose... dayly for at least 3 months.
>> >
>> > I am asking about side effects... can you give us some advise??
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Esther
>> > = ^..^ =
>> > adopta a
>> > Gracia<
http://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/search/label/1.3.Adoptar%20en%2
>> > 0Gracia><
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[Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

[Esther Jorda]

Xana, my baby is now 2,5 yo. I suspect she developped leukemia, although the
vet is not 100% sure.

She is now with antibiotics. She had fever, convulsions, ataxia... Blood
work shows anaemia, hematocrit 25%. white cells were highly increased.
Toxoplasma vas positive to igg( 1/10), (igm negative, < 1/10).

About Felv the vet suggest to put her under omega interferon orally, at low
dose... dayly for at least 3 months.

I am asking about side effects... can you give us some advise??

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[Felvtalk] Feral cats - PETA

[Esther Jorda]

http://www.animalalliancenyc.org/nycfci/ToTestOrNotToTest.pdf

http://www.alleycat.org/NetCommunity/Page.aspx?pid=429

In Barcelona (Spain) protectionist organizations and volunteers that work
with ferals cats are definitevely againts sistematic killer of positive FelV
and FIV cats. We also have support of many vets... but not all, Government
agencies use to kill all the cats they trap

Dr Julie Levy was recently in BCN and we agree totally with her.

What we do:
If the cat is healthy and has to be released, we definitively will not test
them...  Nevertheless We always test all the ill cats or those intented to
be placed for adoption and those that can be accommodated in a non killer
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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon-Article that explains why I now give it 2x daily

[Esther Jorda]

*Do you use interferon (alfa) with asymptomatic cats or once they become
ill???*

2009/9/30 Alice Flowers 

> Here are some excerpts from some research on Interferon-I have been giving
> it 2x a day-orally 1 cc to Rosie and Murphy. I had been giving it onece a
> day to the other 4 that passed away. I always give it right before the
> canned food-they both come into the kitchen and pester me, Murphy bangs the
> cabinet door until I get the little syringe filled. Then they sit and wait
> for the little squirt, Rosie will tilt her head sideways-she likes it
> squirted on the right side of her mouth, I don't have to force them to take
> it, it's just the routine. I even tasted it, just tastes like saline
> solutine-similar to sinus rinse or saline nasal spray. I have not noticed
> any side effects, except maybe lately, combined with the Imulan treatments
> the last 2 weeks-they are playing much more and are awake for longer periods
> and are looking for things to get into. They are making up for being so sick
> the first year.
>
> WHY IS DAILY DOSING BETTER?
> Jere Hough
> Three Times Weekly Is A Terribly Poor Way to Dose Interferon
> This is a great article and also discusses the development of longer acting
> pegylated interferons to better manage the peak and valley effects of the
> current generation of Interferons:
> “PEAKS AND VALLEYS - Because interferon has a half-life in serum of only
> about 7 -10 hours. This means it peaks in the body at about 12 hours and is
> then rapidly metabolized and excreted. At 24 hours after injection it is
> barely measurable. By 36 hours it is not detectable with current
> measurements. During this peak the is a rapid, dramatic drop in viral load.
> As the levels of interferons quickly drop to negligible levels at about 24
> hours viral loads start rapidly climbing again. By 48 or especially 72 hours
> much of the gain in viral reduction has been lost.
> In other words, viral loads in the body fluctuate directly and rapidly
> along with levels of interferon in serum, and when plotted on a graph look
> like a sine wave, or a roller coaster. This graph, along with a description
> of this phenomena, can be viewed on many websites and texts on the subject,
> including the http://www.roche-hepc.com/ page. These peaks and valleys
> have been followed for days in human subjects, and are invariably similar in
> those who respond to IFN.
> As interferon levels go up viral loads go down immediately. Then as IFN
> levels drop, viral loads increase again rapidly. In the period from 24 to 48
> hours viral loads peak to erase most of the gains made. In standard TIW
> dosing the increase in viral loads is even more pronounced during the 72
> hour break once each week.”
> 1) NEVER give with food. Inteferon breaks down in the stomach with stomach
> acid. Always squirt it directly into the mouth where it is absorbed in the
> mouth and throat lining.
> #2) ALWAYS keep refridgerated. It's useless if it hits room temperature.
> Keep unused dilutions frozen until needed. It's unknown how long Interferon
> stays effective in the fridge. Keep unused dilutions frozen until needed.
> #3) It's USELESS to do on/off dosing. It MUST be given every 24 hours to
> maintain consistent levels in the bloodstream. (See excerpts below regarding
> peaks and valleys). It must be kept in the blood at all times. On/Off
> protocols are worthless because it progresses forward in times of no
> intervention.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?

[Esther Jorda]

Dear Michael, Congratulations for your old kitty and thanks for your
sanctuary.

Actually vets recommend me to put xana under  low dose of interferon (via
oral)  ... they do not agree if human alfa or feline omega some of them say
one some of them the other...

*Can you, please, give some advice aboud side effects??*

You can be sure Xana has all my love. The problem is that actually she is
not living with me. My home is a sort of urban shelter where live 24... too
much cats... too much riscs... Xana needs a clean and quite environment... A
friend gave me the opportunity,  Xana is living in her appartment. She has
to go to work, and so do I...  So, Xana is alone all the day... I go as
often as I can... 1-2 times daily... I spend with Xana 2-3 hours every
night... unfortunately she can not sleep with me... I must go home, when
others need me too...

Speedy (my oldest baby) will be 20 y.o. He is at the end of his life... with
CRF, IBD... I want to care him until the end
Best regards,

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[Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?

[Esther Jorda]

I am new to this group. I live in Spain and have some language  
difficults, so, sorry for the faults.


I am an active member of a cat rescue group. In july I found a kitten  
in the street with the eyes seriously dammaged. We went to the vet and  
all was well, excep the positive result to FelV. A friend on mine is  
fostering her. She seems to be healthy and hapy. I want to give her an  
opportunity to live with good QOL as long as possible.


Unfortunately most vets does not share my opinion, and they think it  
is not worth.


I insist... I read all I can find.

I am giving Xana
L-Lysina (for her eye condicion)
Vetinmune (as inmunomodulator)

And I insist to put her on interferon. The vet said that -in that  
subclinic stadium- the alfa (humane) interferon is the election  
treatment. When symtoms appear, then it will be the moment to give the  
omega interferon...


My questions are:
1) HAVE ANYONE EXPERIENCE IN THE USE OF FELINE OMEGA INTERFERON WITH  
ASYMPTOMATIC CATS??  I know it can not clear the virus, but ... Can it  
to prevent the development of any of the illness related with FelV??


2) About propiobacterium acnes. I cant find it in Spain. The  
laboratory does not produce it anymore, and change it for a new  
product: Corynebacterium parvum (inmufort complex (R). It is used for  
cows. A colegue (that has a FelV shelter) wrote me to advice she is  
using it in her 8  FelV+ cats... she said is working well... her  
oldest cat is now 8 years old.


3) Xana has also chronic diarrhea, in spite I put her on intestinal  
diet, does no make solid faeces...



Any other non invasive tratment can be usefull???

Thanks for your atention

Esther
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