Re: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice, Sharyl Natalie!!)
Awesome! Thank you!!! - Original Message - From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice,Sharyl Natalie!!) Bonnie, I add 1/4 tsp to each qt. of water. For the ferals I add 1/4 tsp for each 5.5 oz of canned food I put out for them. Here is the link again for the L-Lysine powder http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-L-Lysine-Powder-1-lb-454-g/653?at=0 Sharyl --- On Sun, 10/3/10, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice, Sharyl Natalie!!) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 11:06 PM Sharyl I perked up reading your message about L-Lysine and herpes. I have my mother's dear cat, Lucky, who recently got a positive FeLV and has, since we've had him (12 years?) had an occasionally runny eye that one vet diagnosed as herpes. So, how do you get the L-lysine in them? Just put in water? Can you put in canned food? I'm currently putting Pet Rescue Remedy in the water as Lucky is still in quarantine until gets retested and/or my 3 healthy house cats get vaccinated. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice,Sharyl Natalie!!) Sounds like a good plan. The diff. between Pet-Tinic and NutriVed is the NutriVed contains folic acid. On the 'how bad do they taste' scale NutriVed may taste a little worse. If you go with Pet-Tinic you can always added folic acid. I prefer either powdered supplements or those in a capsule. Easier to mix in food or water than grinding up a tablet. Something we haven't talked about in a while is L-lysine. It is available as a powder on line. I buy it by the lb and add it to the water for my house kitties and the 2 groups of ferals I feed. Seem to help keep herpes infections at bay which most rescues have. I also add it to the canned food I put out for the feral colonies. Figure they need all the help they can get. Hugs to Avis Sharyl --- On Sun, 10/3/10, nise...@yahoo.com nise...@yahoo.com wrote: From: nise...@yahoo.com nise...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice, Sharyl Natalie!!) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 2:24 PM After pondering the excellent advice of Alice, Sharyl and Natalie, and scouring the FeLV archives, I think I've come up with a reasonable treatment plan to propose to my wonderful, open supportive vet. Any comments would be much appreciated. Recap: Avis is an approx 21 month old neutered male, rescued from an Avis parking lot when he was about 9 months, bounced around for about 8 months, living with us the last 4 months. A 9/27 CBC prior to a minor eye procedure requiring general anesthesia revealed non-regenerative anemia: HCT at 21%, RBC at 4.37, Retic 1%. The subsequent 9/28 FeLV/FIV test was positive. Beyond somewhat pale gums and a little lower energy compared to other young cats (no wild acrobatics for Avis!) he is physically fine right now. 11 lbs eats like a champ, uses litterbox regularly, keeps his glossy soft coat perfectly groomed, chases Max the Dog all over the house, spends hours twitching his tail at the squirrels on the other side of the window. Treatment Plan: 1. Diet - continue with daily 5.5 oz can of Wellness Wet Food and a 1/3 cup of California Naturals Chicken Brown Rice dry food. After 4 months of trying to wean Avis off his dry food addiction, this is the balance we've mutually agreed to! He eats it all up and hits the water bowl pretty good once or twice a day. 2. Treats - about 8 pieces of Greenies baked dry cat treats each day, he LOVES them and they do seem to have some vitamins added. 3. Supplements - either Pet-tinic or NutriVed. Still researching. 4. Immediately start LTCI injections. Given that results from only a few formal studies are currently available, I view the LTCI regime as sort of an unofficial phase II clinical trial. But given Avis' prognosis, it is definitely worth trying. 5. Immediately start on 2x daily Interferon Alpha (unless there is some way I can get Interferon Omega from Europe). Anecdotally, this seems to help some cats, and has been safely given to FeLV+ cats for several years. Again, well worth trying. 6. Keep the big guns like Epogen Prednilosone in reserve for when the HCT goes below 20% or he starts to feel weak and lose appetite. 7. Stable, stress free environment and lots of love. That's it! Thoughts from the FeLV community? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice, Sharyl Natalie!!)
After pondering the excellent advice of Alice, Sharyl and Natalie, and scouring the FeLV archives, I think I've come up with a reasonable treatment plan to propose to my wonderful, open supportive vet. Any comments would be much appreciated. Recap: Avis is an approx 21 month old neutered male, rescued from an Avis parking lot when he was about 9 months, bounced around for about 8 months, living with us the last 4 months. A 9/27 CBC prior to a minor eye procedure requiring general anesthesia revealed non-regenerative anemia: HCT at 21%, RBC at 4.37, Retic 1%. The subsequent 9/28 FeLV/FIV test was positive. Beyond somewhat pale gums and a little lower energy compared to other young cats (no wild acrobatics for Avis!) he is physically fine right now. 11 lbs eats like a champ, uses litterbox regularly, keeps his glossy soft coat perfectly groomed, chases Max the Dog all over the house, spends hours twitching his tail at the squirrels on the other side of the window. Treatment Plan: 1. Diet - continue with daily 5.5 oz can of Wellness Wet Food and a 1/3 cup of California Naturals Chicken Brown Rice dry food. After 4 months of trying to wean Avis off his dry food addiction, this is the balance we've mutually agreed to! He eats it all up and hits the water bowl pretty good once or twice a day. 2. Treats - about 8 pieces of Greenies baked dry cat treats each day, he LOVES them and they do seem to have some vitamins added. 3. Supplements - either Pet-tinic or NutriVed. Still researching. 4. Immediately start LTCI injections. Given that results from only a few formal studies are currently available, I view the LTCI regime as sort of an unofficial phase II clinical trial. But given Avis' prognosis, it is definitely worth trying. 5. Immediately start on 2x daily Interferon Alpha (unless there is some way I can get Interferon Omega from Europe). Anecdotally, this seems to help some cats, and has been safely given to FeLV+ cats for several years. Again, well worth trying. 6. Keep the big guns like Epogen Prednilosone in reserve for when the HCT goes below 20% or he starts to feel weak and lose appetite. 7. Stable, stress free environment and lots of love. That's it! Thoughts from the FeLV community? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice, Sharyl Natalie!!)
Sounds like a good plan. The diff. between Pet-Tinic and NutriVed is the NutriVed contains folic acid. On the 'how bad do they taste' scale NutriVed may taste a little worse. If you go with Pet-Tinic you can always added folic acid. I prefer either powdered supplements or those in a capsule. Easier to mix in food or water than grinding up a tablet. Something we haven't talked about in a while is L-lysine. It is available as a powder on line. I buy it by the lb and add it to the water for my house kitties and the 2 groups of ferals I feed. Seem to help keep herpes infections at bay which most rescues have. I also add it to the canned food I put out for the feral colonies. Figure they need all the help they can get. Hugs to Avis Sharyl --- On Sun, 10/3/10, nise...@yahoo.com nise...@yahoo.com wrote: From: nise...@yahoo.com nise...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice, Sharyl Natalie!!) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 2:24 PM After pondering the excellent advice of Alice, Sharyl and Natalie, and scouring the FeLV archives, I think I've come up with a reasonable treatment plan to propose to my wonderful, open supportive vet. Any comments would be much appreciated. Recap: Avis is an approx 21 month old neutered male, rescued from an Avis parking lot when he was about 9 months, bounced around for about 8 months, living with us the last 4 months. A 9/27 CBC prior to a minor eye procedure requiring general anesthesia revealed non-regenerative anemia: HCT at 21%, RBC at 4.37, Retic 1%. The subsequent 9/28 FeLV/FIV test was positive. Beyond somewhat pale gums and a little lower energy compared to other young cats (no wild acrobatics for Avis!) he is physically fine right now. 11 lbs eats like a champ, uses litterbox regularly, keeps his glossy soft coat perfectly groomed, chases Max the Dog all over the house, spends hours twitching his tail at the squirrels on the other side of the window. Treatment Plan: 1. Diet - continue with daily 5.5 oz can of Wellness Wet Food and a 1/3 cup of California Naturals Chicken Brown Rice dry food. After 4 months of trying to wean Avis off his dry food addiction, this is the balance we've mutually agreed to! He eats it all up and hits the water bowl pretty good once or twice a day. 2. Treats - about 8 pieces of Greenies baked dry cat treats each day, he LOVES them and they do seem to have some vitamins added. 3. Supplements - either Pet-tinic or NutriVed. Still researching. 4. Immediately start LTCI injections. Given that results from only a few formal studies are currently available, I view the LTCI regime as sort of an unofficial phase II clinical trial. But given Avis' prognosis, it is definitely worth trying. 5. Immediately start on 2x daily Interferon Alpha (unless there is some way I can get Interferon Omega from Europe). Anecdotally, this seems to help some cats, and has been safely given to FeLV+ cats for several years. Again, well worth trying. 6. Keep the big guns like Epogen Prednilosone in reserve for when the HCT goes below 20% or he starts to feel weak and lose appetite. 7. Stable, stress free environment and lots of love. That's it! Thoughts from the FeLV community? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice, Sharyl Natalie!!)
Thanks, Sheryl. Powder definitely sounds easier to dose than capsules. I will also talk to the vet about l-Lysine because Avis does have herpes. It damaged his 3rd eyelid which was why we were at the vet ophthalmologist and got the fateful blood test. TWO feral cat colonies?! Wow. That is sad to think about. So many throwaway cats. Or are most of them born feral? From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 4:24:59 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice, Sharyl Natalie!!) Sounds like a good plan. The diff. between Pet-Tinic and NutriVed is the NutriVed contains folic acid. On the 'how bad do they taste' scale NutriVed may taste a little worse. If you go with Pet-Tinic you can always added folic acid. I prefer either powdered supplements or those in a capsule. Easier to mix in food or water than grinding up a tablet. Something we haven't talked about in a while is L-lysine. It is available as a powder on line. I buy it by the lb and add it to the water for my house kitties and the 2 groups of ferals I feed. Seem to help keep herpes infections at bay which most rescues have. I also add it to the canned food I put out for the feral colonies. Figure they need all the help they can get. Hugs to Avis Sharyl --- On Sun, 10/3/10, nise...@yahoo.com nise...@yahoo.com wrote: From: nise...@yahoo.com nise...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice, Sharyl Natalie!!) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 2:24 PM After pondering the excellent advice of Alice, Sharyl and Natalie, and scouring the FeLV archives, I think I've come up with a reasonable treatment plan to propose to my wonderful, open supportive vet. Any comments would be much appreciated. Recap: Avis is an approx 21 month old neutered male, rescued from an Avis parking lot when he was about 9 months, bounced around for about 8 months, living with us the last 4 months. A 9/27 CBC prior to a minor eye procedure requiring general anesthesia revealed non-regenerative anemia: HCT at 21%, RBC at 4.37, Retic 1%. The subsequent 9/28 FeLV/FIV test was positive. Beyond somewhat pale gums and a little lower energy compared to other young cats (no wild acrobatics for Avis!) he is physically fine right now. 11 lbs eats like a champ, uses litterbox regularly, keeps his glossy soft coat perfectly groomed, chases Max the Dog all over the house, spends hours twitching his tail at the squirrels on the other side of the window. Treatment Plan: 1. Diet - continue with daily 5.5 oz can of Wellness Wet Food and a 1/3 cup of California Naturals Chicken Brown Rice dry food. After 4 months of trying to wean Avis off his dry food addiction, this is the balance we've mutually agreed to! He eats it all up and hits the water bowl pretty good once or twice a day. 2. Treats - about 8 pieces of Greenies baked dry cat treats each day, he LOVES them and they do seem to have some vitamins added. 3. Supplements - either Pet-tinic or NutriVed. Still researching. 4. Immediately start LTCI injections. Given that results from only a few formal studies are currently available, I view the LTCI regime as sort of an unofficial phase II clinical trial. But given Avis' prognosis, it is definitely worth trying. 5. Immediately start on 2x daily Interferon Alpha (unless there is some way I can get Interferon Omega from Europe). Anecdotally, this seems to help some cats, and has been safely given to FeLV+ cats for several years. Again, well worth trying. 6. Keep the big guns like Epogen Prednilosone in reserve for when the HCT goes below 20% or he starts to feel weak and lose appetite. 7. Stable, stress free environment and lots of love. That's it! Thoughts from the FeLV community? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice, Sharyl Natalie!!)
Sharyl I perked up reading your message about L-Lysine and herpes. I have my mother's dear cat, Lucky, who recently got a positive FeLV and has, since we've had him (12 years?) had an occasionally runny eye that one vet diagnosed as herpes. So, how do you get the L-lysine in them? Just put in water? Can you put in canned food? I'm currently putting Pet Rescue Remedy in the water as Lucky is still in quarantine until gets retested and/or my 3 healthy house cats get vaccinated. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice,Sharyl Natalie!!) Sounds like a good plan. The diff. between Pet-Tinic and NutriVed is the NutriVed contains folic acid. On the 'how bad do they taste' scale NutriVed may taste a little worse. If you go with Pet-Tinic you can always added folic acid. I prefer either powdered supplements or those in a capsule. Easier to mix in food or water than grinding up a tablet. Something we haven't talked about in a while is L-lysine. It is available as a powder on line. I buy it by the lb and add it to the water for my house kitties and the 2 groups of ferals I feed. Seem to help keep herpes infections at bay which most rescues have. I also add it to the canned food I put out for the feral colonies. Figure they need all the help they can get. Hugs to Avis Sharyl --- On Sun, 10/3/10, nise...@yahoo.com nise...@yahoo.com wrote: From: nise...@yahoo.com nise...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice, Sharyl Natalie!!) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 2:24 PM After pondering the excellent advice of Alice, Sharyl and Natalie, and scouring the FeLV archives, I think I've come up with a reasonable treatment plan to propose to my wonderful, open supportive vet. Any comments would be much appreciated. Recap: Avis is an approx 21 month old neutered male, rescued from an Avis parking lot when he was about 9 months, bounced around for about 8 months, living with us the last 4 months. A 9/27 CBC prior to a minor eye procedure requiring general anesthesia revealed non-regenerative anemia: HCT at 21%, RBC at 4.37, Retic 1%. The subsequent 9/28 FeLV/FIV test was positive. Beyond somewhat pale gums and a little lower energy compared to other young cats (no wild acrobatics for Avis!) he is physically fine right now. 11 lbs eats like a champ, uses litterbox regularly, keeps his glossy soft coat perfectly groomed, chases Max the Dog all over the house, spends hours twitching his tail at the squirrels on the other side of the window. Treatment Plan: 1. Diet - continue with daily 5.5 oz can of Wellness Wet Food and a 1/3 cup of California Naturals Chicken Brown Rice dry food. After 4 months of trying to wean Avis off his dry food addiction, this is the balance we've mutually agreed to! He eats it all up and hits the water bowl pretty good once or twice a day. 2. Treats - about 8 pieces of Greenies baked dry cat treats each day, he LOVES them and they do seem to have some vitamins added. 3. Supplements - either Pet-tinic or NutriVed. Still researching. 4. Immediately start LTCI injections. Given that results from only a few formal studies are currently available, I view the LTCI regime as sort of an unofficial phase II clinical trial. But given Avis' prognosis, it is definitely worth trying. 5. Immediately start on 2x daily Interferon Alpha (unless there is some way I can get Interferon Omega from Europe). Anecdotally, this seems to help some cats, and has been safely given to FeLV+ cats for several years. Again, well worth trying. 6. Keep the big guns like Epogen Prednilosone in reserve for when the HCT goes below 20% or he starts to feel weak and lose appetite. 7. Stable, stress free environment and lots of love. That's it! Thoughts from the FeLV community? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice, Sharyl Natalie!!)
Most of them were born in the colonies. I have TNR's most of these cats so there will be few additions. Seems like a new one shows up every few months. They get fresh food and water every night and seem quite happy. Some I have been feeding for almost 5 yrs now. I get my L-Lysine powder from this web site. http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-L-Lysine-Powder-1-lb-454-g/653?at=0 I add 1/4 tsp to each qt. of water I put out for them. Sharyl --- On Sun, 10/3/10, nise...@yahoo.com nise...@yahoo.com wrote: From: nise...@yahoo.com nise...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice, Sharyl Natalie!!) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 9:24 PM Thanks, Sheryl. Powder definitely sounds easier to dose than capsules. I will also talk to the vet about l-Lysine because Avis does have herpes. It damaged his 3rd eyelid which was why we were at the vet ophthalmologist and got the fateful blood test. TWO feral cat colonies?! Wow. That is sad to think about. So many throwaway cats. Or are most of them born feral? From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 4:24:59 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice, Sharyl Natalie!!) Sounds like a good plan. The diff. between Pet-Tinic and NutriVed is the NutriVed contains folic acid. On the 'how bad do they taste' scale NutriVed may taste a little worse. If you go with Pet-Tinic you can always added folic acid. I prefer either powdered supplements or those in a capsule. Easier to mix in food or water than grinding up a tablet. Something we haven't talked about in a while is L-lysine. It is available as a powder on line. I buy it by the lb and add it to the water for my house kitties and the 2 groups of ferals I feed. Seem to help keep herpes infections at bay which most rescues have. I also add it to the canned food I put out for the feral colonies. Figure they need all the help they can get. Hugs to Avis Sharyl --- On Sun, 10/3/10, nise...@yahoo.com nise...@yahoo.com wrote: From: nise...@yahoo.com nise...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice, Sharyl Natalie!!) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 2:24 PM After pondering the excellent advice of Alice, Sharyl and Natalie, and scouring the FeLV archives, I think I've come up with a reasonable treatment plan to propose to my wonderful, open supportive vet. Any comments would be much appreciated. Recap: Avis is an approx 21 month old neutered male, rescued from an Avis parking lot when he was about 9 months, bounced around for about 8 months, living with us the last 4 months. A 9/27 CBC prior to a minor eye procedure requiring general anesthesia revealed non-regenerative anemia: HCT at 21%, RBC at 4.37, Retic 1%. The subsequent 9/28 FeLV/FIV test was positive. Beyond somewhat pale gums and a little lower energy compared to other young cats (no wild acrobatics for Avis!) he is physically fine right now. 11 lbs eats like a champ, uses litterbox regularly, keeps his glossy soft coat perfectly groomed, chases Max the Dog all over the house, spends hours twitching his tail at the squirrels on the other side of the window. Treatment Plan: 1. Diet - continue with daily 5.5 oz can of Wellness Wet Food and a 1/3 cup of California Naturals Chicken Brown Rice dry food. After 4 months of trying to wean Avis off his dry food addiction, this is the balance we've mutually agreed to! He eats it all up and hits the water bowl pretty good once or twice a day. 2. Treats - about 8 pieces of Greenies baked dry cat treats each day, he LOVES them and they do seem to have some vitamins added. 3. Supplements - either Pet-tinic or NutriVed. Still researching. 4. Immediately start LTCI injections. Given that results from only a few formal studies are currently available, I view the LTCI regime as sort of an unofficial phase II clinical trial. But given Avis' prognosis, it is definitely worth trying. 5. Immediately start on 2x daily Interferon Alpha (unless there is some way I can get Interferon Omega from Europe). Anecdotally, this seems to help some cats, and has been safely given to FeLV+ cats for several years. Again, well worth trying. 6. Keep the big guns like Epogen Prednilosone in reserve for when the HCT goes below 20% or he starts to feel weak and lose appetite. 7. Stable, stress free environment and lots of love. That's it! Thoughts from the FeLV community? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman
Re: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice, Sharyl Natalie!!)
Bonnie, I add 1/4 tsp to each qt. of water. For the ferals I add 1/4 tsp for each 5.5 oz of canned food I put out for them. Here is the link again for the L-Lysine powder http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-L-Lysine-Powder-1-lb-454-g/653?at=0 Sharyl --- On Sun, 10/3/10, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice, Sharyl Natalie!!) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 11:06 PM Sharyl I perked up reading your message about L-Lysine and herpes. I have my mother's dear cat, Lucky, who recently got a positive FeLV and has, since we've had him (12 years?) had an occasionally runny eye that one vet diagnosed as herpes. So, how do you get the L-lysine in them? Just put in water? Can you put in canned food? I'm currently putting Pet Rescue Remedy in the water as Lucky is still in quarantine until gets retested and/or my 3 healthy house cats get vaccinated. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice,Sharyl Natalie!!) Sounds like a good plan. The diff. between Pet-Tinic and NutriVed is the NutriVed contains folic acid. On the 'how bad do they taste' scale NutriVed may taste a little worse. If you go with Pet-Tinic you can always added folic acid. I prefer either powdered supplements or those in a capsule. Easier to mix in food or water than grinding up a tablet. Something we haven't talked about in a while is L-lysine. It is available as a powder on line. I buy it by the lb and add it to the water for my house kitties and the 2 groups of ferals I feed. Seem to help keep herpes infections at bay which most rescues have. I also add it to the canned food I put out for the feral colonies. Figure they need all the help they can get. Hugs to Avis Sharyl --- On Sun, 10/3/10, nise...@yahoo.com nise...@yahoo.com wrote: From: nise...@yahoo.com nise...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice, Sharyl Natalie!!) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 2:24 PM After pondering the excellent advice of Alice, Sharyl and Natalie, and scouring the FeLV archives, I think I've come up with a reasonable treatment plan to propose to my wonderful, open supportive vet. Any comments would be much appreciated. Recap: Avis is an approx 21 month old neutered male, rescued from an Avis parking lot when he was about 9 months, bounced around for about 8 months, living with us the last 4 months. A 9/27 CBC prior to a minor eye procedure requiring general anesthesia revealed non-regenerative anemia: HCT at 21%, RBC at 4.37, Retic 1%. The subsequent 9/28 FeLV/FIV test was positive. Beyond somewhat pale gums and a little lower energy compared to other young cats (no wild acrobatics for Avis!) he is physically fine right now. 11 lbs eats like a champ, uses litterbox regularly, keeps his glossy soft coat perfectly groomed, chases Max the Dog all over the house, spends hours twitching his tail at the squirrels on the other side of the window. Treatment Plan: 1. Diet - continue with daily 5.5 oz can of Wellness Wet Food and a 1/3 cup of California Naturals Chicken Brown Rice dry food. After 4 months of trying to wean Avis off his dry food addiction, this is the balance we've mutually agreed to! He eats it all up and hits the water bowl pretty good once or twice a day. 2. Treats - about 8 pieces of Greenies baked dry cat treats each day, he LOVES them and they do seem to have some vitamins added. 3. Supplements - either Pet-tinic or NutriVed. Still researching. 4. Immediately start LTCI injections. Given that results from only a few formal studies are currently available, I view the LTCI regime as sort of an unofficial phase II clinical trial. But given Avis' prognosis, it is definitely worth trying. 5. Immediately start on 2x daily Interferon Alpha (unless there is some way I can get Interferon Omega from Europe). Anecdotally, this seems to help some cats, and has been safely given to FeLV+ cats for several years. Again, well worth trying. 6. Keep the big guns like Epogen Prednilosone in reserve for when the HCT goes below 20% or he starts to feel weak and lose appetite. 7. Stable, stress free environment and lots of love. That's it! Thoughts from the FeLV community? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk
Re: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice, Sharyl Natalie!!)
My Fuji absolutely refuses to take pills. However, the last few days I've added lysine to her wet food and she has been eating it pretty well! On Oct 4, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Sharyl I perked up reading your message about L-Lysine and herpes. I have my mother's dear cat, Lucky, who recently got a positive FeLV and has, since we've had him (12 years?) had an occasionally runny eye that one vet diagnosed as herpes. So, how do you get the L-lysine in them? Just put in water? Can you put in canned food? I'm currently putting Pet Rescue Remedy in the water as Lucky is still in quarantine until gets retested and/or my 3 healthy house cats get vaccinated. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice,Sharyl Natalie!!) Sounds like a good plan. The diff. between Pet-Tinic and NutriVed is the NutriVed contains folic acid. On the 'how bad do they taste' scale NutriVed may taste a little worse. If you go with Pet-Tinic you can always added folic acid. I prefer either powdered supplements or those in a capsule. Easier to mix in food or water than grinding up a tablet. Something we haven't talked about in a while is L-lysine. It is available as a powder on line. I buy it by the lb and add it to the water for my house kitties and the 2 groups of ferals I feed. Seem to help keep herpes infections at bay which most rescues have. I also add it to the canned food I put out for the feral colonies. Figure they need all the help they can get. Hugs to Avis Sharyl --- On Sun, 10/3/10, nise...@yahoo.com nise...@yahoo.com wrote: From: nise...@yahoo.com nise...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Avis treatment plan (BIG thanks to Alice, Sharyl Natalie!!) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 2:24 PM After pondering the excellent advice of Alice, Sharyl and Natalie, and scouring the FeLV archives, I think I've come up with a reasonable treatment plan to propose to my wonderful, open supportive vet. Any comments would be much appreciated. Recap: Avis is an approx 21 month old neutered male, rescued from an Avis parking lot when he was about 9 months, bounced around for about 8 months, living with us the last 4 months. A 9/27 CBC prior to a minor eye procedure requiring general anesthesia revealed non-regenerative anemia: HCT at 21%, RBC at 4.37, Retic 1%. The subsequent 9/28 FeLV/FIV test was positive. Beyond somewhat pale gums and a little lower energy compared to other young cats (no wild acrobatics for Avis!) he is physically fine right now. 11 lbs eats like a champ, uses litterbox regularly, keeps his glossy soft coat perfectly groomed, chases Max the Dog all over the house, spends hours twitching his tail at the squirrels on the other side of the window. Treatment Plan: 1. Diet - continue with daily 5.5 oz can of Wellness Wet Food and a 1/3 cup of California Naturals Chicken Brown Rice dry food. After 4 months of trying to wean Avis off his dry food addiction, this is the balance we've mutually agreed to! He eats it all up and hits the water bowl pretty good once or twice a day. 2. Treats - about 8 pieces of Greenies baked dry cat treats each day, he LOVES them and they do seem to have some vitamins added. 3. Supplements - either Pet-tinic or NutriVed. Still researching. 4. Immediately start LTCI injections. Given that results from only a few formal studies are currently available, I view the LTCI regime as sort of an unofficial phase II clinical trial. But given Avis' prognosis, it is definitely worth trying. 5. Immediately start on 2x daily Interferon Alpha (unless there is some way I can get Interferon Omega from Europe). Anecdotally, this seems to help some cats, and has been safely given to FeLV+ cats for several years. Again, well worth trying. 6. Keep the big guns like Epogen Prednilosone in reserve for when the HCT goes below 20% or he starts to feel weak and lose appetite. 7. Stable, stress free environment and lots of love. That's it! Thoughts from the FeLV community? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
