Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight

2010-04-27 Thread Hotmail Junk
I do know about the expenses! My cat is at $30,000.00, but well worth  
it!


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On Apr 27, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Ashley Vanover  
 wrote:



Nortina,

There are many charities out there that can assist with vet bills.  
With the economy being what it is, donations have gone down, but  
they may be able to help you fund treatment to keep McFluffins  
comfortable. Here is a link I used when my Kong first became ill to  
see what was out there. I hope it helps you. http://www.itchmo.com/pets-medical-bills-piling-up-380


As someone else mentioned, Interferon is always worth a shot. My vet  
orders it from a place in Arizona called Road Runner Pharmacy, and  
they ship it directly to my house. For a 3 month supply (I'm giving  
my kitty 1ml a day for alternating weeks), it is around $38,  
including the shipping.


FeLV is so expensive to fight, and even if you had thousands of  
dollars to spend, it never guarantees a positive outcome. McFluffins  
appreciates what you are doing for him and how much you care about  
him.


--Ashley


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Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight

2010-04-27 Thread Ashley Vanover

Nortina,

There are many charities out there that can assist with vet bills.  
With the economy being what it is, donations have gone down, but they  
may be able to help you fund treatment to keep McFluffins comfortable.  
Here is a link I used when my Kong first became ill to see what was  
out there. I hope it helps you. http://www.itchmo.com/pets-medical-bills-piling-up-380


As someone else mentioned, Interferon is always worth a shot. My vet  
orders it from a place in Arizona called Road Runner Pharmacy, and  
they ship it directly to my house. For a 3 month supply (I'm giving my  
kitty 1ml a day for alternating weeks), it is around $38, including  
the shipping.


FeLV is so expensive to fight, and even if you had thousands of  
dollars to spend, it never guarantees a positive outcome. McFluffins  
appreciates what you are doing for him and how much you care about him.


--Ashley


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Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight

2010-04-27 Thread jbero tds.net
Nortina,

My heart goes out to you.  This is very possibly a manifestation of the
disease.  If you've been following this group you know what the results can
be and that there isn't any 100% effective treatment out there.  There's a
lot of ideas in my head so I'm going to try to be as exact as I can.

1.  Cheap things that can be done - bring in a stool sample without your cat
and just ask them to do a fecal on it should be about 20 to 25 dollars.  If
there is a parasite you can treat it.

2.  He still has an appetite that's good.  If this is felv and it's end
stages you may be fighting a losing battle, but you could try asking your
vet for interferon - ask if you can get it without bringing him in.  Call
the vet that has seen him before and is aware of his felv status.
Interferon is relatively inexpensive and may help.

3.  You could try supplements that do not require vet prescription.  This
would include Vitamin C - mega C, Vitamin E, and N-acetyl cysteine.  I
recently have communicated with a man who did studies on felv cats and did
this protocol with good success (he included prednisone, which I would not
do as long term outcomes are not good with it).  If you want to try this, be
aware that it could cause GI upset so I would leary about it, but on a
shoestring budget it may help.  These things can be bought at a health store
or ordered online.  I can be more specific if you would like to try it.

4.  Do a small exam on him.  Obviously he has lost weight, I would also be
concerned about dehydration.  Pull the skin on the back of his neck up and
let it go.  If it snaps back quickly (you can use your other cat to compare)
he is well hydrated, if it stays tented up and slowly drops down, he is
dehydrated.  You could give him pedialyte or plain gatorade to help if he is
dehydrated.  Look into his mouth at his gums and teeth.  Look for any big
bumps or sores that could be causing problems.  Look at the color of his
gums.  If they are white (again compare with your other cat) he is probably
anemic and this is likely felv.  If they are pink, he is less likely
anemic.  Feel his abdomen and check for any big hard masses.  This could be
a lymphoma or other tumor - then this would likely be felv sequelae or an
obstruction - obstruction would be quickly life threatening and they usually
have no bowel movements or gas.

5.  You could try changing the diet to something bland like boiled chicken
and rice or sweet potatoe. or lamb and rice.  This may or may not help.

Well, hope this helps and if you interested in trying the high dose vitamins
let me know and I'll send the specifics.  I have no guarantee it will help,
but it may.

Jenny


On 4/27/10, Nortina Bell  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I've been a member here for awhile now (I've posted my original intro
> below), but haven't really participated. My cat, McFluffins, hasn't really
> appeared to be ill at all and I am not knowledgeable enough on the topic to
> have anything to share. I was actually hoping to not have participate again,
> as awful as that sounds, since I was hoping that my kitty would be fine.
>
> I am now no longer sure that he will be. McFluffins has always been a very
> energetic and cuddly cat. A few weeks ago he started to seem less cuddly and
> now he's a bit on the lethargic side. He's started to vomit this past week
> and has lost so much weight that his collar just hangs off of him. When he
> eats now he always sounds like he's going to vomit, but doesn't every time.
>
> Our family really cannot afford the treatment options that I read about on
> this list. Originally I thought that we would be comfortable in just giving
> McFluffins a comfy home for as long as he could stay with us. It was selfish
> perhaps because I knew we couldn't afford large vet bills, but I thought
> that it would be better than nothing. In addition to that, I was never able
> to find a placement for him that wouldn't just put him down. Now I am
> finding that it hurts to see him like this, but that doesn't make money
> magically appear, sadly.
>
> I suppose I am looking for any advice and support on how to care for
> McFluffins now at home. I am sorry for not having been more vocal in the
> group even though I have tried to keep up with reading all messages and my
> heart broke a little each time I read about another kitty who has passed on,
> even though I didn't share that.
>
> Thanks for listening.
>
> Nortina
>
>
> 
> (April 27, 2009)Hello,
>
> I have been a member of this list for a few days now since I found out that
> our new kitty tested postive for feline leukemia.
>
> We already have one cat, Jasper, who is about 7-8 years old. The animal
> shelter was unsure of his age when I got him, so we aren't quite sure now
> either. Jasper, as a rule, really dislikes other animals. Cats, dogs, he
> shows them all who is boss. However, since we have moved to our new house in
> mid-January, we've had a stray hanging around. Jasper, who gets out every
> now and the

[Felvtalk] Losing weight

2010-04-27 Thread Nortina Bell
Hello, 

I've been a member here for awhile now (I've posted my original intro below), 
but haven't really participated. My cat, McFluffins, hasn't really appeared to 
be ill at all and I am not knowledgeable enough on the topic to have anything 
to share. I was actually hoping to not have participate again, as awful as that 
sounds, since I was hoping that my kitty would be fine. 

I am now no longer sure that he will be. McFluffins has always been a very 
energetic and cuddly cat. A few weeks ago he started to seem less cuddly and 
now he's a bit on the lethargic side. He's started to vomit this past week and 
has lost so much weight that his collar just hangs off of him. When he eats now 
he always sounds like he's going to vomit, but doesn't every time. 

Our family really cannot afford the treatment options that I read about on this 
list. Originally I thought that we would be comfortable in just giving 
McFluffins a comfy home for as long as he could stay with us. It was selfish 
perhaps because I knew we couldn't afford large vet bills, but I thought that 
it would be better than nothing. In addition to that, I was never able to find 
a placement for him that wouldn't just put him down. Now I am finding that it 
hurts to see him like this, but that doesn't make money magically appear, 
sadly. 

I suppose I am looking for any advice and support on how to care for McFluffins 
now at home. I am sorry for not having been more vocal in the group even though 
I have tried to keep up with reading all messages and my heart broke a little 
each time I read about another kitty who has passed on, even though I didn't 
share that. 

Thanks for listening. 

Nortina



(April 27, 2009)Hello, 

I have been a member of this list for a few days now since I found out that our 
new kitty tested postive for feline leukemia. 

We already have one cat, Jasper, who is about 7-8 years old. The animal shelter 
was unsure of his age when I got him, so we aren't quite sure now either. 
Jasper, as a rule, really dislikes other animals. Cats, dogs, he shows them all 
who is boss. However, since we have moved to our new house in mid-January, 
we've had a stray hanging around. Jasper, who gets out every now and then even 
though we try not to let him, actually didn't seem to hate this other cat. I 
saw them actually playing together which was a surprise to me. This other cat 
kept trying to sneak IN the house and was so loving anyway that we just decided 
to adopt him once we realized we might actually be able to have another cat in 
the same house as Jasper (we have tried twice previous with very bad results). 

We kept this new cat (my kids are bent on calling him McFluffins) in the 
bathroom overnight while waiting for his first vet appointment to see if he 
would even use a litter box. I was glad to see that he did, but noticed we had 
an issue with worms. 

While at the vet they tested for FIV and feline leukemia. This is when we found 
that he tested positive for feline leukemia. The vet that I spoke to that day 
didn't really try to encourage me in making any decision, but I have to admit 
that I thought about having him put down. I was not really willing to though 
because I have already found that he is a very loving and wonderful cat and is 
perfectly healthy at the moment. After asking some questions about how it can 
progress and the implications for Jasper, I decided that we would keep him. 

We had another vet visit the day after for Jasper and the vet that we spoke to 
that day was firm that there will be issues with the stray that we took in, it 
is just a matter of how long until they surface. She was much less hopeful than 
the previous vet, but nice and informative all the same. 

Currently Jasper and the new cat are seperated as Jasper was behind on his 
vaccinations and was never vaccinated again feline leuk. I was told that, based 
on Jasper's age, he wasn't likely to catch it anyway, but it would be worth 
giving anyhow. It was suggested that they be kept apart until his second 
booster shot in a month after this one. Does anyone else have an experience 
like this? Is it really necessary to keep them seperated? 

I have been reading all of the posts so far but feel a little lost since I am 
not very knowledgable on the subject, so hopefully I will catch up soon. 

Nortina
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Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight/Hemobart

2009-06-22 Thread Sue & Frank Koren
Hi Amy,
My 1 1/2 year old cat Buzz, tested positive for FeLV in January of '08.  He 
seemed to be asymptomatic until July when he became anemic.  My vet treated him 
for hemobart using Doxycycline and Prednesolone.  He responded very well at 
that point and his blood count went from 8 back up into the normal range over a 
time period of two months.  He stayed in the normal range for approximately a 
month and then his red blood count started going down again.  The medication 
was was no longer working and I lost him in November.  
My vet did not test for hemobart in July because of test results being 
untrustworthy, but he always thought that was the problem because he responded 
so well to the treatment the first time.  Hope that helps a little.
Sue

 Amy  wrote: 
> 
> I've e-mailed my vet about my cat losing weight and I think we are going to 
> do a test for hemobart and pancreatitis.  She also offered to do a feline 
> thyroid panel that is supposed to be best when you don't get the results you 
> expect from the basic thyroid test (we've tested twice with neg results).  
> She suggested we could also do a test to see if his intestines are 
> malabsorptive if I want and also the option of an abdominal ultrasound.  Just 
> depends how far I want to go.  
> 
> She did have one question for me about hemobart so I want to ask here.  Just 
> a reminder, I lost Maverick quickly and unexpectedly last week.  He had a 
> hematocrit of 23 (compared to his normal 40%) and went downhill quickly.  We 
> didn't treat for hemobart (didn't suspect it) but rather put him on clavamox 
> and prednisone.  She wants to know how often the people on this board see 
> hemobart in leuk positives and if they normally detect it right after the 
> leukemia diagnosis or if it seems to pop up down the road, more distant.  She 
> said she honestly didn't suspect hemobart after doing 7 CBCs/smears on him 
> over the past couple years.  Still not sure how it could have stayed hidden 
> on all those tests but his symptoms do seem like it was possible.  Either 
> way, we want to learn everything we can about this.  I know some of you have 
> mentioned treating for it regardless of the test results but we are just 
> curious how prevalent it is among leuk positives.  Anybody
>  have any data or personal experience to help us out?
> 
> Thanks
> Amy
> 
> --- On Sat, 6/20/09, Cougar Clan  wrote:
> 
> > From: Cougar Clan 
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 7:29 AM
> > I would.  Otherwise, you will
> > always wonder and doubt yourself.
> > On Jun 19, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Amy wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > Wow!  Maybe I should just do the blood test and
> > rule it out.  I'll  
> > > join the group and learn more.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Amy
> > >
> > >> Hi. When first diagnosed Frankie did
> > >> not have other symptoms and the
> > >> diagnosis was a surprise to all of us.
> > >> In fact, he was ravenously hungry. He had an
> > occasional
> > >> fudgy stool. That
> > >> was it.
> > >> Later, when it acted up (pancreatitis comes and
> > goes) he
> > >> was anorexic and
> > >> lost 2 lbs.
> > >> Pls keep us posted!
> > >> L
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
> > >> On Behalf Of Amy
> > >> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 5:11 PM
> > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thanks Sharyl,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the info.  My vet said they have
> > never seen
> > >> a case where a cat
> > >> had pancreatitis and showed no signs of discomfort
> > or being
> > >> sick but that
> > >> they are more than willing to test if that's what
> > I want to
> > >> do.
> > >>
> > >> Amy
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Here is the link for the new Yahoo
> > Pancreatitis
> > >> group.
> > >>> http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline_pancreatitis_support/
> > >>>
> > >>> They have some really good info on dxing and
> > treating
> > >>> pancreatitis.  I think it is IDEXX that
> > can do the
> > >> new
> > >>> blood test so the samp

Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight/Hemobart

2009-06-21 Thread Belinda Sauro

  Hi Amy,
   I sent this link to you this morning, I quoted some of the info 
there below but there is much more to read on the website:


https://www.vetcentric.com/reference/encycEntry.cfm?ENTRY=88&COLLECTION=EncycIllness&MODE=full


*AffectedAnimals:*
Essentially all cats have the potential to be infected with 
/Haemobartonella felis/. *Cats infected with feline leukemia virus 
appear to be at higher risk for infection and are likely to have more 
severe signs of illness.*
/Haemobartonella/ should be considered as a possibility in any anemic 
cat or any cat with evidence of hemolysis. The diagnosis is based on 
microscopic identification of /H. felis/ on a blood smear. Since the 
appearance of /H. felis/ on red blood cells is cyclical, the organisms 
may not be present all the time. In many cases, treatment is begun 
even if the diagnosis is only suspected and not confirmed.


I also know of many kitties on the Feline Anemia list I'm on who have 
tested negative several times but turned out to have it, 5 times is the 
most negative results I have seen on the list but this was over a month 
or so period of time not years.


--

Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...

http://bemikitties.com

http://BelindaSauro.com

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Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight/Hemobart

2009-06-21 Thread Amy

I've e-mailed my vet about my cat losing weight and I think we are going to do 
a test for hemobart and pancreatitis.  She also offered to do a feline thyroid 
panel that is supposed to be best when you don't get the results you expect 
from the basic thyroid test (we've tested twice with neg results).  She 
suggested we could also do a test to see if his intestines are malabsorptive if 
I want and also the option of an abdominal ultrasound.  Just depends how far I 
want to go.  

She did have one question for me about hemobart so I want to ask here.  Just a 
reminder, I lost Maverick quickly and unexpectedly last week.  He had a 
hematocrit of 23 (compared to his normal 40%) and went downhill quickly.  We 
didn't treat for hemobart (didn't suspect it) but rather put him on clavamox 
and prednisone.  She wants to know how often the people on this board see 
hemobart in leuk positives and if they normally detect it right after the 
leukemia diagnosis or if it seems to pop up down the road, more distant.  She 
said she honestly didn't suspect hemobart after doing 7 CBCs/smears on him over 
the past couple years.  Still not sure how it could have stayed hidden on all 
those tests but his symptoms do seem like it was possible.  Either way, we want 
to learn everything we can about this.  I know some of you have mentioned 
treating for it regardless of the test results but we are just curious how 
prevalent it is among leuk positives.  Anybody
 have any data or personal experience to help us out?

Thanks
Amy

--- On Sat, 6/20/09, Cougar Clan  wrote:

> From: Cougar Clan 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 7:29 AM
> I would.  Otherwise, you will
> always wonder and doubt yourself.
> On Jun 19, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Amy wrote:
> 
> >
> > Wow!  Maybe I should just do the blood test and
> rule it out.  I'll  
> > join the group and learn more.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Amy
> >
> >> Hi. When first diagnosed Frankie did
> >> not have other symptoms and the
> >> diagnosis was a surprise to all of us.
> >> In fact, he was ravenously hungry. He had an
> occasional
> >> fudgy stool. That
> >> was it.
> >> Later, when it acted up (pancreatitis comes and
> goes) he
> >> was anorexic and
> >> lost 2 lbs.
> >> Pls keep us posted!
> >> L
> >>
> >> -Original Message-----
> >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
> >> On Behalf Of Amy
> >> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 5:11 PM
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks Sharyl,
> >>
> >> Thanks for the info.  My vet said they have
> never seen
> >> a case where a cat
> >> had pancreatitis and showed no signs of discomfort
> or being
> >> sick but that
> >> they are more than willing to test if that's what
> I want to
> >> do.
> >>
> >> Amy
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Here is the link for the new Yahoo
> Pancreatitis
> >> group.
> >>> http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline_pancreatitis_support/
> >>>
> >>> They have some really good info on dxing and
> treating
> >>> pancreatitis.  I think it is IDEXX that
> can do the
> >> new
> >>> blood test so the sample doesn't have to be
> set to
> >> TAMU
> >>> anymore.
> >>>
> >>> Usually a kitty will show signs of pain,
> nausea and
> >>> inappetance when having a pancreatitis
> attack.
> >> Granted
> >>> many vets don't really have experience
> treating
> >> pancreatitis
> >>> but it is manageable.
> >>>
> >>> Amy, I don't think this is your problem since
> your
> >> kitty is
> >>> eating.
> >>> Sharyl
> >>>
> >>> --- On Thu, 6/18/09, Laurieskatz 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> From: Laurieskatz 
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> >>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >>>> Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 9:35 PM
> >>>> Pancreatitis is a blood test (and/or
> >>>> ultrasound). They send the blood to
> >>>> Texas now. There is a yahoo group for
> feline
> >>> pancreatitis.
> >>>> It is important
> >>>> to do the right test. There is an outdated
> one
> >> th

Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight

2009-06-20 Thread Cougar Clan

I would.  Otherwise, you will always wonder and doubt yourself.
On Jun 19, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Amy wrote:



Wow!  Maybe I should just do the blood test and rule it out.  I'll  
join the group and learn more.


Thanks!
Amy


Hi. When first diagnosed Frankie did
not have other symptoms and the
diagnosis was a surprise to all of us.
In fact, he was ravenously hungry. He had an occasional
fudgy stool. That
was it.
Later, when it acted up (pancreatitis comes and goes) he
was anorexic and
lost 2 lbs.
Pls keep us posted!
L

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
On Behalf Of Amy
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 5:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight


Thanks Sharyl,

Thanks for the info.  My vet said they have never seen
a case where a cat
had pancreatitis and showed no signs of discomfort or being
sick but that
they are more than willing to test if that's what I want to
do.

Amy



Here is the link for the new Yahoo Pancreatitis

group.

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline_pancreatitis_support/

They have some really good info on dxing and treating
pancreatitis.  I think it is IDEXX that can do the

new

blood test so the sample doesn't have to be set to

TAMU

anymore.

Usually a kitty will show signs of pain, nausea and
inappetance when having a pancreatitis attack.

Granted

many vets don't really have experience treating

pancreatitis

but it is manageable.

Amy, I don't think this is your problem since your

kitty is

eating.
Sharyl

--- On Thu, 6/18/09, Laurieskatz 
wrote:


From: Laurieskatz 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 9:35 PM
Pancreatitis is a blood test (and/or
ultrasound). They send the blood to
Texas now. There is a yahoo group for feline

pancreatitis.

It is important
to do the right test. There is an outdated one

that

some

vets still use.
It isn't really something they treat. My vet had

me

put

Frankie on a low fat
diet (that is what they do for dogs and it

hasn't

been

proven to work for
cats but did work for Frankie).
L


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
On Behalf Of Amy
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 7:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight


Thanks for the ideas.  Since I just bought some

baby

food for my other cat,
I will definitely try adding stuff like that for
calories.  He really seems
to eat fine so I'm stumped why he keeps losing

weight

:(


Amy



Amy, I don't know what to tell you.  The

only

suggestion I have is to try and increase

his

daily

caloric

intake to see if that helps him gain wt.

So

may

things

can affect wt. including thyroid issues.  I

know

you

said blood work looked fine but has he has a

T4

and

free T4

test recently?

If he would tolerate it you could try

adding

some

kitten

food to his regular food for a calorie
boost.   Another thought is adding in

come

Clinicare.  It is a liquid recovery food

and

may

provide a calorie boost.  I offer mine

some

Gerber

Chicken and Gravy meat baby food as a

treat.

Each

jar

has 100 calories.  Generally several small

meal

per

day

are best but you are already doing that.
Hugs to him
Sharyl


--- On Wed, 6/17/09, Amy 
wrote:


From: Amy 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 7:36

PM


So after losing Maverick today, I'm

even

more

worried

about

my boy who's been steadily losing

weight for

the

past

4

years.  He has no other apparent

symptoms

but

does

have

leukemia.  He's down to 11 pounds,

from 15

lbs.

He eats numerous times a day (no loss

of

appetite) and

we

have him on a high protein, high fat

diet to

try

to

get him

to gain.  He seems to have stopped

losing

for

now

but

is not gaining it back.  Bloodwork

looks

fine.

Any suggestions?  I think I posted

about

this a

while

ago but didn't get much response.

Thanks
Amy






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Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight

2009-06-19 Thread Amy

Wow!  Maybe I should just do the blood test and rule it out.  I'll join the 
group and learn more.

Thanks!
Amy

> Hi. When first diagnosed Frankie did
> not have other symptoms and the
> diagnosis was a surprise to all of us.
> In fact, he was ravenously hungry. He had an occasional
> fudgy stool. That
> was it.
> Later, when it acted up (pancreatitis comes and goes) he
> was anorexic and
> lost 2 lbs. 
> Pls keep us posted!
> L
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
> On Behalf Of Amy
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 5:11 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> 
> 
> Thanks Sharyl,
> 
> Thanks for the info.  My vet said they have never seen
> a case where a cat
> had pancreatitis and showed no signs of discomfort or being
> sick but that
> they are more than willing to test if that's what I want to
> do.  
> 
> Amy
> 
> > 
> > Here is the link for the new Yahoo Pancreatitis
> group.
> > http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline_pancreatitis_support/
> > 
> > They have some really good info on dxing and treating
> > pancreatitis.  I think it is IDEXX that can do the
> new
> > blood test so the sample doesn't have to be set to
> TAMU
> > anymore.
> > 
> > Usually a kitty will show signs of pain, nausea and
> > inappetance when having a pancreatitis attack. 
> Granted
> > many vets don't really have experience treating
> pancreatitis
> > but it is manageable.  
> > 
> > Amy, I don't think this is your problem since your
> kitty is
> > eating.
> > Sharyl
> > 
> > --- On Thu, 6/18/09, Laurieskatz 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Laurieskatz 
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 9:35 PM
> > > Pancreatitis is a blood test (and/or
> > > ultrasound). They send the blood to
> > > Texas now. There is a yahoo group for feline
> > pancreatitis.
> > > It is important
> > > to do the right test. There is an outdated one
> that
> > some
> > > vets still use.
> > > It isn't really something they treat. My vet had
> me
> > put
> > > Frankie on a low fat
> > > diet (that is what they do for dogs and it
> hasn't
> > been
> > > proven to work for
> > > cats but did work for Frankie).
> > > L
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
> > > On Behalf Of Amy
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 7:52 PM
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the ideas.  Since I just bought some
> baby
> > > food for my other cat,
> > > I will definitely try adding stuff like that for
> > > calories.  He really seems
> > > to eat fine so I'm stumped why he keeps losing
> weight
> > :(
> > > 
> > > Amy
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Amy, I don't know what to tell you.  The
> only
> > > > suggestion I have is to try and increase
> his
> > daily
> > > caloric
> > > > intake to see if that helps him gain wt. 
> So
> > may
> > > things
> > > > can affect wt. including thyroid issues.  I
> know
> > you
> > > > said blood work looked fine but has he has a
> T4
> > and
> > > free T4
> > > > test recently?  
> > > > 
> > > > If he would tolerate it you could try
> adding
> > some
> > > kitten
> > > > food to his regular food for a calorie
> > > > boost.   Another thought is adding in
> come
> > > > Clinicare.  It is a liquid recovery food
> and
> > may
> > > > provide a calorie boost.  I offer mine
> some
> > Gerber
> > > > Chicken and Gravy meat baby food as a
> treat. 
> > Each
> > > jar
> > > > has 100 calories.  Generally several small
> meal
> > per
> > > day
> > > > are best but you are already doing that.
> > > > Hugs to him
> > > > Sharyl  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >

Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight

2009-06-19 Thread Laurieskatz
Hi. When first diagnosed Frankie did not have other symptoms and the
diagnosis was a surprise to all of us.
In fact, he was ravenously hungry. He had an occasional fudgy stool. That
was it.
Later, when it acted up (pancreatitis comes and goes) he was anorexic and
lost 2 lbs. 
Pls keep us posted!
L

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 5:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight


Thanks Sharyl,

Thanks for the info.  My vet said they have never seen a case where a cat
had pancreatitis and showed no signs of discomfort or being sick but that
they are more than willing to test if that's what I want to do.  

Amy

> 
> Here is the link for the new Yahoo Pancreatitis group.
> http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline_pancreatitis_support/
> 
> They have some really good info on dxing and treating
> pancreatitis.  I think it is IDEXX that can do the new
> blood test so the sample doesn't have to be set to TAMU
> anymore.
> 
> Usually a kitty will show signs of pain, nausea and
> inappetance when having a pancreatitis attack.  Granted
> many vets don't really have experience treating pancreatitis
> but it is manageable.  
> 
> Amy, I don't think this is your problem since your kitty is
> eating.
> Sharyl
> 
> --- On Thu, 6/18/09, Laurieskatz 
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Laurieskatz 
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 9:35 PM
> > Pancreatitis is a blood test (and/or
> > ultrasound). They send the blood to
> > Texas now. There is a yahoo group for feline
> pancreatitis.
> > It is important
> > to do the right test. There is an outdated one that
> some
> > vets still use.
> > It isn't really something they treat. My vet had me
> put
> > Frankie on a low fat
> > diet (that is what they do for dogs and it hasn't
> been
> > proven to work for
> > cats but did work for Frankie).
> > L
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
> > On Behalf Of Amy
> > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 7:52 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for the ideas.  Since I just bought some baby
> > food for my other cat,
> > I will definitely try adding stuff like that for
> > calories.  He really seems
> > to eat fine so I'm stumped why he keeps losing weight
> :(
> > 
> > Amy
> > 
> > > 
> > > Amy, I don't know what to tell you.  The only
> > > suggestion I have is to try and increase his
> daily
> > caloric
> > > intake to see if that helps him gain wt.  So
> may
> > things
> > > can affect wt. including thyroid issues.  I know
> you
> > > said blood work looked fine but has he has a T4
> and
> > free T4
> > > test recently?  
> > > 
> > > If he would tolerate it you could try adding
> some
> > kitten
> > > food to his regular food for a calorie
> > > boost.   Another thought is adding in come
> > > Clinicare.  It is a liquid recovery food and
> may
> > > provide a calorie boost.  I offer mine some
> Gerber
> > > Chicken and Gravy meat baby food as a treat. 
> Each
> > jar
> > > has 100 calories.  Generally several small meal
> per
> > day
> > > are best but you are already doing that.
> > > Hugs to him
> > > Sharyl  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Amy 
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > From: Amy 
> > > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > > Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 7:36 PM
> > > > 
> > > > So after losing Maverick today, I'm even
> more
> > worried
> > > about
> > > > my boy who's been steadily losing weight for
> the
> > past
> > > 4
> > > > years.  He has no other apparent symptoms
> but
> > does
> > > have
> > > > leukemia.  He's down to 11 pounds, from 15
> > lbs. 
> > > > He eats numerous times a day (no loss of
> > appetite) and
> > > we
> > > > have him on a high protein, high fat diet to
> try
> > to
> > > get him
> > > > to gain.  He seems to have s

Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight

2009-06-19 Thread Amy

Thanks Sharyl,

Thanks for the info.  My vet said they have never seen a case where a cat had 
pancreatitis and showed no signs of discomfort or being sick but that they are 
more than willing to test if that's what I want to do.  

Amy

> 
> Here is the link for the new Yahoo Pancreatitis group.
> http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline_pancreatitis_support/
> 
> They have some really good info on dxing and treating
> pancreatitis.  I think it is IDEXX that can do the new
> blood test so the sample doesn't have to be set to TAMU
> anymore.
> 
> Usually a kitty will show signs of pain, nausea and
> inappetance when having a pancreatitis attack.  Granted
> many vets don't really have experience treating pancreatitis
> but it is manageable.  
> 
> Amy, I don't think this is your problem since your kitty is
> eating.
> Sharyl
> 
> --- On Thu, 6/18/09, Laurieskatz 
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Laurieskatz 
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 9:35 PM
> > Pancreatitis is a blood test (and/or
> > ultrasound). They send the blood to
> > Texas now. There is a yahoo group for feline
> pancreatitis.
> > It is important
> > to do the right test. There is an outdated one that
> some
> > vets still use.
> > It isn't really something they treat. My vet had me
> put
> > Frankie on a low fat
> > diet (that is what they do for dogs and it hasn't
> been
> > proven to work for
> > cats but did work for Frankie).
> > L
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
> > On Behalf Of Amy
> > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 7:52 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for the ideas.  Since I just bought some baby
> > food for my other cat,
> > I will definitely try adding stuff like that for
> > calories.  He really seems
> > to eat fine so I'm stumped why he keeps losing weight
> :(
> > 
> > Amy
> > 
> > > 
> > > Amy, I don't know what to tell you.  The only
> > > suggestion I have is to try and increase his
> daily
> > caloric
> > > intake to see if that helps him gain wt.  So
> may
> > things
> > > can affect wt. including thyroid issues.  I know
> you
> > > said blood work looked fine but has he has a T4
> and
> > free T4
> > > test recently?  
> > > 
> > > If he would tolerate it you could try adding
> some
> > kitten
> > > food to his regular food for a calorie
> > > boost.   Another thought is adding in come
> > > Clinicare.  It is a liquid recovery food and
> may
> > > provide a calorie boost.  I offer mine some
> Gerber
> > > Chicken and Gravy meat baby food as a treat. 
> Each
> > jar
> > > has 100 calories.  Generally several small meal
> per
> > day
> > > are best but you are already doing that.
> > > Hugs to him
> > > Sharyl  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Amy 
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > From: Amy 
> > > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > > Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 7:36 PM
> > > > 
> > > > So after losing Maverick today, I'm even
> more
> > worried
> > > about
> > > > my boy who's been steadily losing weight for
> the
> > past
> > > 4
> > > > years.  He has no other apparent symptoms
> but
> > does
> > > have
> > > > leukemia.  He's down to 11 pounds, from 15
> > lbs. 
> > > > He eats numerous times a day (no loss of
> > appetite) and
> > > we
> > > > have him on a high protein, high fat diet to
> try
> > to
> > > get him
> > > > to gain.  He seems to have stopped losing
> for
> > now
> > > but
> > > > is not gaining it back.  Bloodwork looks
> > fine. 
> > > > Any suggestions?  I think I posted about
> this a
> > > while
> > > > ago but didn't get much response.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Amy
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >       
> > > > 
> > > >
> ___

Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight

2009-06-19 Thread Sharyl

Here is the link for the new Yahoo Pancreatitis group.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline_pancreatitis_support/

They have some really good info on dxing and treating pancreatitis.  I think it 
is IDEXX that can do the new blood test so the sample doesn't have to be set to 
TAMU anymore.

Usually a kitty will show signs of pain, nausea and inappetance when having a 
pancreatitis attack.  Granted many vets don't really have experience treating 
pancreatitis but it is manageable.  

Amy, I don't think this is your problem since your kitty is eating.
Sharyl

--- On Thu, 6/18/09, Laurieskatz  wrote:

> From: Laurieskatz 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 9:35 PM
> Pancreatitis is a blood test (and/or
> ultrasound). They send the blood to
> Texas now. There is a yahoo group for feline pancreatitis.
> It is important
> to do the right test. There is an outdated one that some
> vets still use.
> It isn't really something they treat. My vet had me put
> Frankie on a low fat
> diet (that is what they do for dogs and it hasn't been
> proven to work for
> cats but did work for Frankie).
> L
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
> On Behalf Of Amy
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 7:52 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> 
> 
> Thanks for the ideas.  Since I just bought some baby
> food for my other cat,
> I will definitely try adding stuff like that for
> calories.  He really seems
> to eat fine so I'm stumped why he keeps losing weight :(
> 
> Amy
> 
> > 
> > Amy, I don't know what to tell you.  The only
> > suggestion I have is to try and increase his daily
> caloric
> > intake to see if that helps him gain wt.  So may
> things
> > can affect wt. including thyroid issues.  I know you
> > said blood work looked fine but has he has a T4 and
> free T4
> > test recently?  
> > 
> > If he would tolerate it you could try adding some
> kitten
> > food to his regular food for a calorie
> > boost.   Another thought is adding in come
> > Clinicare.  It is a liquid recovery food and may
> > provide a calorie boost.  I offer mine some Gerber
> > Chicken and Gravy meat baby food as a treat.  Each
> jar
> > has 100 calories.  Generally several small meal per
> day
> > are best but you are already doing that.
> > Hugs to him
> > Sharyl  
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Amy 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Amy 
> > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 7:36 PM
> > > 
> > > So after losing Maverick today, I'm even more
> worried
> > about
> > > my boy who's been steadily losing weight for the
> past
> > 4
> > > years.  He has no other apparent symptoms but
> does
> > have
> > > leukemia.  He's down to 11 pounds, from 15
> lbs. 
> > > He eats numerous times a day (no loss of
> appetite) and
> > we
> > > have him on a high protein, high fat diet to try
> to
> > get him
> > > to gain.  He seems to have stopped losing for
> now
> > but
> > > is not gaining it back.  Bloodwork looks
> fine. 
> > > Any suggestions?  I think I posted about this a
> > while
> > > ago but didn't get much response.
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > Amy
> > > 
> > > 
> > >       
> > > 
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> > 
> > 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight

2009-06-18 Thread Amy

Thanks, I'll ask about this.  We have tested him a couple times because she 
thought she felt something a bit odd last time.  We had just tested him a few 
months before but tested again.  I'll confirm which tests she has done.

Amy

--- On Thu, 6/18/09, Belinda Sauro  wrote:

> From: Belinda Sauro 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 9:22 PM
>     Hi Amy,
>  A regular T4 thyroid test sometimes won't give a high
> reading until it gets fairly high.  Fred always tested
> normal but my vet could feel a small nodule on his thyroid
> and we kept an eye on it.  When he went in for his
> physical a year later she felt it had gotten slightly bigger
> so we did another thyroid test but we did the T4 and the T
> FREE 4 also.  The T4 was within normal range and the T
> FREE 4 was very slightly high.  We caught it very early
> and he had the radio iodine treatment.
> 
> Some of Fred's symptoms were, he was always hungry, every
> time I got up to do anything he would get up and follow me,
> just in case I was going in the kitchen.  He ate a lot
> of food but never gained any weight.  He also would
> howl sometimes.  He drank a lot and peed a lot but the
> was because he also had kidney issues which we diagnosed at
> the same time as when we found out about the hyper-t.
> 
> -- 
> Belinda
> happiness is being owned by cats ...
> 
> http://bemikitties.com
> 
> http://BelindaSauro.com
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight

2009-06-18 Thread Laurieskatz
Pancreatitis is a blood test (and/or ultrasound). They send the blood to
Texas now. There is a yahoo group for feline pancreatitis. It is important
to do the right test. There is an outdated one that some vets still use.
It isn't really something they treat. My vet had me put Frankie on a low fat
diet (that is what they do for dogs and it hasn't been proven to work for
cats but did work for Frankie).
L


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 7:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight


Thanks for the ideas.  Since I just bought some baby food for my other cat,
I will definitely try adding stuff like that for calories.  He really seems
to eat fine so I'm stumped why he keeps losing weight :(

Amy

> 
> Amy, I don't know what to tell you.  The only
> suggestion I have is to try and increase his daily caloric
> intake to see if that helps him gain wt.  So may things
> can affect wt. including thyroid issues.  I know you
> said blood work looked fine but has he has a T4 and free T4
> test recently?  
> 
> If he would tolerate it you could try adding some kitten
> food to his regular food for a calorie
> boost.   Another thought is adding in come
> Clinicare.  It is a liquid recovery food and may
> provide a calorie boost.  I offer mine some Gerber
> Chicken and Gravy meat baby food as a treat.  Each jar
> has 100 calories.  Generally several small meal per day
> are best but you are already doing that.
> Hugs to him
> Sharyl  
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Amy 
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Amy 
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 7:36 PM
> > 
> > So after losing Maverick today, I'm even more worried
> about
> > my boy who's been steadily losing weight for the past
> 4
> > years.  He has no other apparent symptoms but does
> have
> > leukemia.  He's down to 11 pounds, from 15 lbs. 
> > He eats numerous times a day (no loss of appetite) and
> we
> > have him on a high protein, high fat diet to try to
> get him
> > to gain.  He seems to have stopped losing for now
> but
> > is not gaining it back.  Bloodwork looks fine. 
> > Any suggestions?  I think I posted about this a
> while
> > ago but didn't get much response.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Amy
> > 
> > 
> >       
> > 
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> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> > 
> 
> 
>       
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight

2009-06-18 Thread Belinda Sauro

Hi Amy,
 A regular T4 thyroid test sometimes won't give a high reading until it 
gets fairly high.  Fred always tested normal but my vet could feel a 
small nodule on his thyroid and we kept an eye on it.  When he went in 
for his physical a year later she felt it had gotten slightly bigger so 
we did another thyroid test but we did the T4 and the T FREE 4 also.  
The T4 was within normal range and the T FREE 4 was very slightly high.  
We caught it very early and he had the radio iodine treatment.


Some of Fred's symptoms were, he was always hungry, every time I got up 
to do anything he would get up and follow me, just in case I was going 
in the kitchen.  He ate a lot of food but never gained any weight.  He 
also would howl sometimes.  He drank a lot and peed a lot but the was 
because he also had kidney issues which we diagnosed at the same time as 
when we found out about the hyper-t.


--

Belinda
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Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight

2009-06-18 Thread Amy

Thanks for the ideas.  Since I just bought some baby food for my other cat, I 
will definitely try adding stuff like that for calories.  He really seems to 
eat fine so I'm stumped why he keeps losing weight :(

Amy

> 
> Amy, I don't know what to tell you.  The only
> suggestion I have is to try and increase his daily caloric
> intake to see if that helps him gain wt.  So may things
> can affect wt. including thyroid issues.  I know you
> said blood work looked fine but has he has a T4 and free T4
> test recently?  
> 
> If he would tolerate it you could try adding some kitten
> food to his regular food for a calorie
> boost.   Another thought is adding in come
> Clinicare.  It is a liquid recovery food and may
> provide a calorie boost.  I offer mine some Gerber
> Chicken and Gravy meat baby food as a treat.  Each jar
> has 100 calories.  Generally several small meal per day
> are best but you are already doing that.
> Hugs to him
> Sharyl  
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Amy 
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Amy 
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 7:36 PM
> > 
> > So after losing Maverick today, I'm even more worried
> about
> > my boy who's been steadily losing weight for the past
> 4
> > years.  He has no other apparent symptoms but does
> have
> > leukemia.  He's down to 11 pounds, from 15 lbs. 
> > He eats numerous times a day (no loss of appetite) and
> we
> > have him on a high protein, high fat diet to try to
> get him
> > to gain.  He seems to have stopped losing for now
> but
> > is not gaining it back.  Bloodwork looks fine. 
> > Any suggestions?  I think I posted about this a
> while
> > ago but didn't get much response.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Amy
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight

2009-06-18 Thread Amy

He has been tested for hyperthyroid but not pancreatitis.

Amy

> Has he been tested for pancreatitis?
> Hyperthyroid?
> Those are two conditions that result in weight loss. That
> is what we tested
> for.
> Laurie
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Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight

2009-06-18 Thread Laurieskatz
Has he been tested for pancreatitis? Hyperthyroid?
Those are two conditions that result in weight loss. That is what we tested
for.
Laurie

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:36 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight


Amy, I don't know what to tell you.  The only suggestion I have is to try
and increase his daily caloric intake to see if that helps him gain wt.  So
may things can affect wt. including thyroid issues.  I know you said blood
work looked fine but has he has a T4 and free T4 test recently?  

If he would tolerate it you could try adding some kitten food to his regular
food for a calorie boost.   Another thought is adding in come Clinicare.  It
is a liquid recovery food and may provide a calorie boost.  I offer mine
some Gerber Chicken and Gravy meat baby food as a treat.  Each jar has 100
calories.  Generally several small meal per day are best but you are already
doing that.
Hugs to him
Sharyl  


--- On Wed, 6/17/09, Amy  wrote:

> From: Amy 
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 7:36 PM
> 
> So after losing Maverick today, I'm even more worried about
> my boy who's been steadily losing weight for the past 4
> years.  He has no other apparent symptoms but does have
> leukemia.  He's down to 11 pounds, from 15 lbs. 
> He eats numerous times a day (no loss of appetite) and we
> have him on a high protein, high fat diet to try to get him
> to gain.  He seems to have stopped losing for now but
> is not gaining it back.  Bloodwork looks fine. 
> Any suggestions?  I think I posted about this a while
> ago but didn't get much response.
> 
> Thanks
> Amy
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight

2009-06-17 Thread Sharyl

Amy, I don't know what to tell you.  The only suggestion I have is to try and 
increase his daily caloric intake to see if that helps him gain wt.  So may 
things can affect wt. including thyroid issues.  I know you said blood work 
looked fine but has he has a T4 and free T4 test recently?  

If he would tolerate it you could try adding some kitten food to his regular 
food for a calorie boost.   Another thought is adding in come Clinicare.  It is 
a liquid recovery food and may provide a calorie boost.  I offer mine some 
Gerber Chicken and Gravy meat baby food as a treat.  Each jar has 100 calories. 
 Generally several small meal per day are best but you are already doing that.
Hugs to him
Sharyl  


--- On Wed, 6/17/09, Amy  wrote:

> From: Amy 
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 7:36 PM
> 
> So after losing Maverick today, I'm even more worried about
> my boy who's been steadily losing weight for the past 4
> years.  He has no other apparent symptoms but does have
> leukemia.  He's down to 11 pounds, from 15 lbs. 
> He eats numerous times a day (no loss of appetite) and we
> have him on a high protein, high fat diet to try to get him
> to gain.  He seems to have stopped losing for now but
> is not gaining it back.  Bloodwork looks fine. 
> Any suggestions?  I think I posted about this a while
> ago but didn't get much response.
> 
> Thanks
> Amy
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight

2009-06-17 Thread Laurieskatz
EVO dry took Bella from 8 lbs to 13 lbs!
She also got canned Fancy Feast but the majority of her diet was/is EVO.
Frankie (not FeLV but pancreatitis) gained 2 lbs on canned Fancy Feast
Gourmet Salmon and Shrimp.
Laurie

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Losing weight


So after losing Maverick today, I'm even more worried about my boy who's
been steadily losing weight for the past 4 years.  He has no other apparent
symptoms but does have leukemia.  He's down to 11 pounds, from 15 lbs.  He
eats numerous times a day (no loss of appetite) and we have him on a high
protein, high fat diet to try to get him to gain.  He seems to have stopped
losing for now but is not gaining it back.  Bloodwork looks fine.  Any
suggestions?  I think I posted about this a while ago but didn't get much
response.

Thanks
Amy


  

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[Felvtalk] Losing weight

2009-06-17 Thread Amy

So after losing Maverick today, I'm even more worried about my boy who's been 
steadily losing weight for the past 4 years.  He has no other apparent symptoms 
but does have leukemia.  He's down to 11 pounds, from 15 lbs.  He eats numerous 
times a day (no loss of appetite) and we have him on a high protein, high fat 
diet to try to get him to gain.  He seems to have stopped losing for now but is 
not gaining it back.  Bloodwork looks fine.  Any suggestions?  I think I posted 
about this a while ago but didn't get much response.

Thanks
Amy


  

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