Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth

2011-07-11 Thread katskat1
Again, thanks to all of you.  Been a great help.

Called my vet this morning and she is unexpectedly out of office until
the 18th.  Apparently she had family emergency. That's upsetting cause
the kitty who had her eyes removed last Wednesday was supposed to have
sutures out this Wed the 13th.  I guess a few more days with sutures
won't hurt - I kept mine in my knee for almost 4 months cause I was
afraid to get them out.  duh!Oh well.

Surprisingly, Luke is a lover.  Loves to be picked up, loves to be
petted.  But with the apparent pain in her mouth nothing is going to
get into her via syringe or jamming a pill in the back of her throat,
nothing.  Last time I tried it one of her loose teeth fell out so
there was a plus side but I am still putting triple antibiotic cream
on the scratches and I had her wrapped in a bath towel like a mummy!
Afterward she was panting, drooling, vomiting and hid for several
hours.  Not doing that to her or me again.

So I will have to wait until the 18th to get her to the vet but she is
sticking around the yard now and actually was sitting at the door like
she -almost- wanted in so I guess that will have to do

Thanks again cause I was hesitant to do that to her but what the heck.
 If I can have a little 5 week old kittens rotten, ready to rupture
eyes removed I guess I can the rotten teeth of a full grown kitten
pulled~.

Kat


On 7/11/11, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 Cats have a way of knowing meds are in the food you are giving them.  Unlike
 dogs who gulp it down so fast they never realize meds were in it.
 Medicating Casey is life threatening, I almost need to make a reservation at
 the ER for a couple of pints of blood for me.  She bites, scratches, screams
 and like you said, we are both so worn out, frustrated that it almost seems
 to do more harm than good.  If she needs meds, we head to the vet.  More
 hands to hld her down.  I have gotten a muzzle, but that makes her so angry
 that she won't have anything to do with me for at least a couple of hours.

  Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 Reply to: felineres...@frontier.com
 In-Reply-To:
 CAArM-_-2ryAGGq9SY-77suew7TtR5qZS+jFj-UAbtGn7pr6A=q...@mail.gmail.com

 Thanks for taking care of Luke. It's very difficult taking
 care of a cat who fights your every effort to help her/hin.
 You are very kind.

 Lorrie

 On 07-09, katskat1 wrote:
  Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take
  Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed.  She is
  obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse.
   She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time
  before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live.
 
  I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside -
   has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are
  ALL negatives.  But she sticks around and I don't have many options.
 
  Now, if only I could successfully medicate her.  She will not eat
  anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with
  any med of any kind.  Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind
  storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are
  breathing hard.  Not good for her.  Or me.  So I am trying to give her
  quality of whatever life she has
 
  Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help.
 
  kat
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth

2011-07-11 Thread Susan Hoffman
A suggestion for medicating difficult cats -- I recently had to get gel caps 
into a timid former feral girl who seems to sprout extra feet and claws when I 
medicate her.  I cut a hole in the end of a pillowcase and put that over her, 
with just her head sticking out of the hole.  That helped.  it still wasn't 
easy.  But it was better.  We actually got through the entire course of 
medication.

--- On Mon, 7/11/11, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 10:29 AM
 Again, thanks to all of you. 
 Been a great help.
 
 Called my vet this morning and she is unexpectedly out of
 office until
 the 18th.  Apparently she had family emergency. That's
 upsetting cause
 the kitty who had her eyes removed last Wednesday was
 supposed to have
 sutures out this Wed the 13th.  I guess a few more
 days with sutures
 won't hurt - I kept mine in my knee for almost 4 months
 cause I was
 afraid to get them out.  duh!    Oh well.
 
 Surprisingly, Luke is a lover.  Loves to be picked up,
 loves to be
 petted.  But with the apparent pain in her mouth
 nothing is going to
 get into her via syringe or jamming a pill in the back of
 her throat,
 nothing.  Last time I tried it one of her loose teeth
 fell out so
 there was a plus side but I am still putting triple
 antibiotic cream
 on the scratches and I had her wrapped in a bath towel like
 a mummy!
 Afterward she was panting, drooling, vomiting and hid for
 several
 hours.  Not doing that to her or me again.
 
 So I will have to wait until the 18th to get her to the vet
 but she is
 sticking around the yard now and actually was sitting at
 the door like
 she -almost- wanted in so I guess that will have to do
 
 Thanks again cause I was hesitant to do that to her but
 what the heck.
  If I can have a little 5 week old kittens rotten, ready to
 rupture
 eyes removed I guess I can the rotten teeth of a full grown
 kitten
 pulled~.
 
 Kat
 
 
 On 7/11/11, dlg...@windstream.net
 dlg...@windstream.net
 wrote:
  Cats have a way of knowing meds are in the food you
 are giving them.  Unlike
  dogs who gulp it down so fast they never realize meds
 were in it.
  Medicating Casey is life threatening, I almost need to
 make a reservation at
  the ER for a couple of pints of blood for me. 
 She bites, scratches, screams
  and like you said, we are both so worn out, frustrated
 that it almost seems
  to do more harm than good.  If she needs meds, we
 head to the vet.  More
  hands to hld her down.  I have gotten a muzzle,
 but that makes her so angry
  that she won't have anything to do with me for at
 least a couple of hours.
 
   Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 wrote:
  Reply to: felineres...@frontier.com
  In-Reply-To:
 
 CAArM-_-2ryAGGq9SY-77suew7TtR5qZS+jFj-UAbtGn7pr6A=q...@mail.gmail.com
 
  Thanks for taking care of Luke. It's very
 difficult taking
  care of a cat who fights your every effort to help
 her/hin.
  You are very kind.
 
  Lorrie
 
  On 07-09, katskat1 wrote:
   Thanks to all I have decided if I can find
 the $ I am going to take
   Luke to the vet and have some/all of her
 rotten teeth removed.  She is
   obviously in discomfort and her breath has
 gotten progressively worse.
    She is ratty looking and apparently has
 been sickly for a long time
   before I started feeding her as a stray but
 she still wants to live.
  
   I was very apprehensive about doing this to a
 cat that stays outside -
    has to - won't come in, fights to get
 back out and my inside cats are
   ALL negatives.  But she sticks around
 and I don't have many options.
  
   Now, if only I could successfully medicate
 her.  She will not eat
   anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet
 food, treats, NOTHING with
   any med of any kind.  Trying to syringe
 her is like fighting a wind
   storm with lots of claws and then we are both
 so stressed we are
   breathing hard.  Not good for her. 
 Or me.  So I am trying to give her
   quality of whatever life she has
  
   Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will
 help.
  
   kat
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth

2011-07-11 Thread MaiMaiPG
Consider putting out some plain full fat yogurt for Luke...with  
probiotics.  Might make him feel better.

On Jul 11, 2011, at 12:29 PM, katskat1 wrote:


Again, thanks to all of you.  Been a great help.

Called my vet this morning and she is unexpectedly out of office until
the 18th.  Apparently she had family emergency. That's upsetting cause
the kitty who had her eyes removed last Wednesday was supposed to have
sutures out this Wed the 13th.  I guess a few more days with sutures
won't hurt - I kept mine in my knee for almost 4 months cause I was
afraid to get them out.  duh!Oh well.

Surprisingly, Luke is a lover.  Loves to be picked up, loves to be
petted.  But with the apparent pain in her mouth nothing is going to
get into her via syringe or jamming a pill in the back of her throat,
nothing.  Last time I tried it one of her loose teeth fell out so
there was a plus side but I am still putting triple antibiotic cream
on the scratches and I had her wrapped in a bath towel like a mummy!
Afterward she was panting, drooling, vomiting and hid for several
hours.  Not doing that to her or me again.

So I will have to wait until the 18th to get her to the vet but she is
sticking around the yard now and actually was sitting at the door like
she -almost- wanted in so I guess that will have to do

Thanks again cause I was hesitant to do that to her but what the heck.
If I can have a little 5 week old kittens rotten, ready to rupture
eyes removed I guess I can the rotten teeth of a full grown kitten
pulled~.

Kat


On 7/11/11, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
Cats have a way of knowing meds are in the food you are giving  
them.  Unlike

dogs who gulp it down so fast they never realize meds were in it.
Medicating Casey is life threatening, I almost need to make a  
reservation at
the ER for a couple of pints of blood for me.  She bites,  
scratches, screams
and like you said, we are both so worn out, frustrated that it  
almost seems
to do more harm than good.  If she needs meds, we head to the vet.   
More
hands to hld her down.  I have gotten a muzzle, but that makes her  
so angry
that she won't have anything to do with me for at least a couple of  
hours.


 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

Reply to: felineres...@frontier.com
In-Reply-To:
CAArM-_-2ryAGGq9SY-77suew7TtR5qZS+jFj-UAbtGn7pr6A=q...@mail.gmail.com

Thanks for taking care of Luke. It's very difficult taking
care of a cat who fights your every effort to help her/hin.
You are very kind.

Lorrie

On 07-09, katskat1 wrote:

Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take
Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed.   
She is
obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively  
worse.

She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time
before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to  
live.


I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays  
outside -
has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats  
are
ALL negatives.  But she sticks around and I don't have many  
options.


Now, if only I could successfully medicate her.  She will not eat
anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING  
with

any med of any kind.  Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind
storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are
breathing hard.  Not good for her.  Or me.  So I am trying to  
give her

quality of whatever life she has

Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help.

kat



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Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth

2011-07-11 Thread Edna Taylor

Sounds like she might have stomatitis.  We have two cats with that and they 
both had all but their canines pulled and both are doing 100% better now.
 

 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:29:51 -0400
 From: katsk...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth
 
 Again, thanks to all of you. Been a great help.
 
 Called my vet this morning and she is unexpectedly out of office until
 the 18th. Apparently she had family emergency. That's upsetting cause
 the kitty who had her eyes removed last Wednesday was supposed to have
 sutures out this Wed the 13th. I guess a few more days with sutures
 won't hurt - I kept mine in my knee for almost 4 months cause I was
 afraid to get them out. duh! Oh well.
 
 Surprisingly, Luke is a lover. Loves to be picked up, loves to be
 petted. But with the apparent pain in her mouth nothing is going to
 get into her via syringe or jamming a pill in the back of her throat,
 nothing. Last time I tried it one of her loose teeth fell out so
 there was a plus side but I am still putting triple antibiotic cream
 on the scratches and I had her wrapped in a bath towel like a mummy!
 Afterward she was panting, drooling, vomiting and hid for several
 hours. Not doing that to her or me again.
 
 So I will have to wait until the 18th to get her to the vet but she is
 sticking around the yard now and actually was sitting at the door like
 she -almost- wanted in so I guess that will have to do
 
 Thanks again cause I was hesitant to do that to her but what the heck.
 If I can have a little 5 week old kittens rotten, ready to rupture
 eyes removed I guess I can the rotten teeth of a full grown kitten
 pulled~.
 
 Kat
 
 
 On 7/11/11, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
  Cats have a way of knowing meds are in the food you are giving them. Unlike
  dogs who gulp it down so fast they never realize meds were in it.
  Medicating Casey is life threatening, I almost need to make a reservation at
  the ER for a couple of pints of blood for me. She bites, scratches, screams
  and like you said, we are both so worn out, frustrated that it almost seems
  to do more harm than good. If she needs meds, we head to the vet. More
  hands to hld her down. I have gotten a muzzle, but that makes her so angry
  that she won't have anything to do with me for at least a couple of hours.
 
   Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
  Reply to: felineres...@frontier.com
  In-Reply-To:
  CAArM-_-2ryAGGq9SY-77suew7TtR5qZS+jFj-UAbtGn7pr6A=q...@mail.gmail.com
 
  Thanks for taking care of Luke. It's very difficult taking
  care of a cat who fights your every effort to help her/hin.
  You are very kind.
 
  Lorrie
 
  On 07-09, katskat1 wrote:
   Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take
   Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed. She is
   obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse.
   She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time
   before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live.
  
   I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside -
   has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are
   ALL negatives. But she sticks around and I don't have many options.
  
   Now, if only I could successfully medicate her. She will not eat
   anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with
   any med of any kind. Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind
   storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are
   breathing hard. Not good for her. Or me. So I am trying to give her
   quality of whatever life she has
  
   Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help.
  
   kat
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth

2011-07-10 Thread Lorrie
Reply to: felineres...@frontier.com
In-Reply-To: 
CAArM-_-2ryAGGq9SY-77suew7TtR5qZS+jFj-UAbtGn7pr6A=q...@mail.gmail.com

Thanks for taking care of Luke. It's very difficult taking 
care of a cat who fights your every effort to help her/hin.
You are very kind.

Lorrie

On 07-09, katskat1 wrote:
 Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take
 Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed.  She is
 obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse.
  She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time
 before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live.
 
 I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside -
  has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are
 ALL negatives.  But she sticks around and I don't have many options.
 
 Now, if only I could successfully medicate her.  She will not eat
 anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with
 any med of any kind.  Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind
 storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are
 breathing hard.  Not good for her.  Or me.  So I am trying to give her
 quality of whatever life she has
 
 Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help.
 
 kat
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth

2011-07-10 Thread MaiMaiPG
If you can find the money and please be very blunt with the vets and  
techs about finances leave him at the vets for a week or more.  They  
have the ability to get meds into him and may even get him accustomed  
to people.  Red and Pretty Boy spent a lot of time at the vets (Red  
for a nasty tick carried disease and PB for teeth).  Both came back a  
lot more gentle.  Mad as hell but gentle and the time they spent in  
the garage helped.  People bring food.  Cats like food.  Person talks  
but has food.  I would not try to pick either one up and hug him but  
they are a lot better than they were and they are hanging around the  
house more.  Vets and vet techs have given me lots of ideas for  
dealing with wild cats---some fit me and the ones I care for and some  
don't.  You have to pick and chose but ask.  Also there are some long  
acting antibiotic shots.  I found out about this when I had Copper and  
Thomas' teeth cleaned.  It is more expensive but you know the cat is  
medicated.  We used this when Soot got an infection from some bites.   
I did not see him from the time I put him in the garage until I opened  
the door for him to choose to leaveno way to medicate properly.


If the teeth are rotten/infected get rid of them.
On Jul 10, 2011, at 9:43 AM, Lorrie wrote:


Reply to: felineres...@frontier.com
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Thanks for taking care of Luke. It's very difficult taking
care of a cat who fights your every effort to help her/hin.
You are very kind.

Lorrie

On 07-09, katskat1 wrote:

Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take
Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed.  She  
is
obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively  
worse.

She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time
before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live.

I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays  
outside -

has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are
ALL negatives.  But she sticks around and I don't have many options.

Now, if only I could successfully medicate her.  She will not eat
anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with
any med of any kind.  Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind
storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are
breathing hard.  Not good for her.  Or me.  So I am trying to give  
her

quality of whatever life she has

Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help.

kat



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Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth

2011-07-10 Thread dlgegg
Cats have a way of knowing meds are in the food you are giving them.  Unlike 
dogs who gulp it down so fast they never realize meds were in it.  Medicating 
Casey is life threatening, I almost need to make a reservation at the ER for a 
couple of pints of blood for me.  She bites, scratches, screams and like you 
said, we are both so worn out, frustrated that it almost seems to do more harm 
than good.  If she needs meds, we head to the vet.  More hands to hld her down. 
 I have gotten a muzzle, but that makes her so angry that she won't have 
anything to do with me for at least a couple of hours.

 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 Reply to: felineres...@frontier.com
 In-Reply-To: 
 CAArM-_-2ryAGGq9SY-77suew7TtR5qZS+jFj-UAbtGn7pr6A=q...@mail.gmail.com
 
 Thanks for taking care of Luke. It's very difficult taking 
 care of a cat who fights your every effort to help her/hin.
 You are very kind.
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 07-09, katskat1 wrote:
  Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take
  Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed.  She is
  obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse.
   She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time
  before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live.
  
  I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside -
   has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are
  ALL negatives.  But she sticks around and I don't have many options.
  
  Now, if only I could successfully medicate her.  She will not eat
  anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with
  any med of any kind.  Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind
  storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are
  breathing hard.  Not good for her.  Or me.  So I am trying to give her
  quality of whatever life she has
  
  Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help.
  
  kat
  
 
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