Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth
Again, thanks to all of you. Been a great help. Called my vet this morning and she is unexpectedly out of office until the 18th. Apparently she had family emergency. That's upsetting cause the kitty who had her eyes removed last Wednesday was supposed to have sutures out this Wed the 13th. I guess a few more days with sutures won't hurt - I kept mine in my knee for almost 4 months cause I was afraid to get them out. duh!Oh well. Surprisingly, Luke is a lover. Loves to be picked up, loves to be petted. But with the apparent pain in her mouth nothing is going to get into her via syringe or jamming a pill in the back of her throat, nothing. Last time I tried it one of her loose teeth fell out so there was a plus side but I am still putting triple antibiotic cream on the scratches and I had her wrapped in a bath towel like a mummy! Afterward she was panting, drooling, vomiting and hid for several hours. Not doing that to her or me again. So I will have to wait until the 18th to get her to the vet but she is sticking around the yard now and actually was sitting at the door like she -almost- wanted in so I guess that will have to do Thanks again cause I was hesitant to do that to her but what the heck. If I can have a little 5 week old kittens rotten, ready to rupture eyes removed I guess I can the rotten teeth of a full grown kitten pulled~. Kat On 7/11/11, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Cats have a way of knowing meds are in the food you are giving them. Unlike dogs who gulp it down so fast they never realize meds were in it. Medicating Casey is life threatening, I almost need to make a reservation at the ER for a couple of pints of blood for me. She bites, scratches, screams and like you said, we are both so worn out, frustrated that it almost seems to do more harm than good. If she needs meds, we head to the vet. More hands to hld her down. I have gotten a muzzle, but that makes her so angry that she won't have anything to do with me for at least a couple of hours. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: Reply to: felineres...@frontier.com In-Reply-To: CAArM-_-2ryAGGq9SY-77suew7TtR5qZS+jFj-UAbtGn7pr6A=q...@mail.gmail.com Thanks for taking care of Luke. It's very difficult taking care of a cat who fights your every effort to help her/hin. You are very kind. Lorrie On 07-09, katskat1 wrote: Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed. She is obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse. She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live. I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside - has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are ALL negatives. But she sticks around and I don't have many options. Now, if only I could successfully medicate her. She will not eat anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with any med of any kind. Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are breathing hard. Not good for her. Or me. So I am trying to give her quality of whatever life she has Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help. kat ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth
A suggestion for medicating difficult cats -- I recently had to get gel caps into a timid former feral girl who seems to sprout extra feet and claws when I medicate her. I cut a hole in the end of a pillowcase and put that over her, with just her head sticking out of the hole. That helped. it still wasn't easy. But it was better. We actually got through the entire course of medication. --- On Mon, 7/11/11, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote: From: katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 10:29 AM Again, thanks to all of you. Been a great help. Called my vet this morning and she is unexpectedly out of office until the 18th. Apparently she had family emergency. That's upsetting cause the kitty who had her eyes removed last Wednesday was supposed to have sutures out this Wed the 13th. I guess a few more days with sutures won't hurt - I kept mine in my knee for almost 4 months cause I was afraid to get them out. duh! Oh well. Surprisingly, Luke is a lover. Loves to be picked up, loves to be petted. But with the apparent pain in her mouth nothing is going to get into her via syringe or jamming a pill in the back of her throat, nothing. Last time I tried it one of her loose teeth fell out so there was a plus side but I am still putting triple antibiotic cream on the scratches and I had her wrapped in a bath towel like a mummy! Afterward she was panting, drooling, vomiting and hid for several hours. Not doing that to her or me again. So I will have to wait until the 18th to get her to the vet but she is sticking around the yard now and actually was sitting at the door like she -almost- wanted in so I guess that will have to do Thanks again cause I was hesitant to do that to her but what the heck. If I can have a little 5 week old kittens rotten, ready to rupture eyes removed I guess I can the rotten teeth of a full grown kitten pulled~. Kat On 7/11/11, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Cats have a way of knowing meds are in the food you are giving them. Unlike dogs who gulp it down so fast they never realize meds were in it. Medicating Casey is life threatening, I almost need to make a reservation at the ER for a couple of pints of blood for me. She bites, scratches, screams and like you said, we are both so worn out, frustrated that it almost seems to do more harm than good. If she needs meds, we head to the vet. More hands to hld her down. I have gotten a muzzle, but that makes her so angry that she won't have anything to do with me for at least a couple of hours. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: Reply to: felineres...@frontier.com In-Reply-To: CAArM-_-2ryAGGq9SY-77suew7TtR5qZS+jFj-UAbtGn7pr6A=q...@mail.gmail.com Thanks for taking care of Luke. It's very difficult taking care of a cat who fights your every effort to help her/hin. You are very kind. Lorrie On 07-09, katskat1 wrote: Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed. She is obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse. She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live. I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside - has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are ALL negatives. But she sticks around and I don't have many options. Now, if only I could successfully medicate her. She will not eat anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with any med of any kind. Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are breathing hard. Not good for her. Or me. So I am trying to give her quality of whatever life she has Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help. kat ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth
Consider putting out some plain full fat yogurt for Luke...with probiotics. Might make him feel better. On Jul 11, 2011, at 12:29 PM, katskat1 wrote: Again, thanks to all of you. Been a great help. Called my vet this morning and she is unexpectedly out of office until the 18th. Apparently she had family emergency. That's upsetting cause the kitty who had her eyes removed last Wednesday was supposed to have sutures out this Wed the 13th. I guess a few more days with sutures won't hurt - I kept mine in my knee for almost 4 months cause I was afraid to get them out. duh!Oh well. Surprisingly, Luke is a lover. Loves to be picked up, loves to be petted. But with the apparent pain in her mouth nothing is going to get into her via syringe or jamming a pill in the back of her throat, nothing. Last time I tried it one of her loose teeth fell out so there was a plus side but I am still putting triple antibiotic cream on the scratches and I had her wrapped in a bath towel like a mummy! Afterward she was panting, drooling, vomiting and hid for several hours. Not doing that to her or me again. So I will have to wait until the 18th to get her to the vet but she is sticking around the yard now and actually was sitting at the door like she -almost- wanted in so I guess that will have to do Thanks again cause I was hesitant to do that to her but what the heck. If I can have a little 5 week old kittens rotten, ready to rupture eyes removed I guess I can the rotten teeth of a full grown kitten pulled~. Kat On 7/11/11, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Cats have a way of knowing meds are in the food you are giving them. Unlike dogs who gulp it down so fast they never realize meds were in it. Medicating Casey is life threatening, I almost need to make a reservation at the ER for a couple of pints of blood for me. She bites, scratches, screams and like you said, we are both so worn out, frustrated that it almost seems to do more harm than good. If she needs meds, we head to the vet. More hands to hld her down. I have gotten a muzzle, but that makes her so angry that she won't have anything to do with me for at least a couple of hours. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: Reply to: felineres...@frontier.com In-Reply-To: CAArM-_-2ryAGGq9SY-77suew7TtR5qZS+jFj-UAbtGn7pr6A=q...@mail.gmail.com Thanks for taking care of Luke. It's very difficult taking care of a cat who fights your every effort to help her/hin. You are very kind. Lorrie On 07-09, katskat1 wrote: Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed. She is obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse. She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live. I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside - has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are ALL negatives. But she sticks around and I don't have many options. Now, if only I could successfully medicate her. She will not eat anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with any med of any kind. Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are breathing hard. Not good for her. Or me. So I am trying to give her quality of whatever life she has Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help. kat ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth
Sounds like she might have stomatitis. We have two cats with that and they both had all but their canines pulled and both are doing 100% better now. Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:29:51 -0400 From: katsk...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth Again, thanks to all of you. Been a great help. Called my vet this morning and she is unexpectedly out of office until the 18th. Apparently she had family emergency. That's upsetting cause the kitty who had her eyes removed last Wednesday was supposed to have sutures out this Wed the 13th. I guess a few more days with sutures won't hurt - I kept mine in my knee for almost 4 months cause I was afraid to get them out. duh! Oh well. Surprisingly, Luke is a lover. Loves to be picked up, loves to be petted. But with the apparent pain in her mouth nothing is going to get into her via syringe or jamming a pill in the back of her throat, nothing. Last time I tried it one of her loose teeth fell out so there was a plus side but I am still putting triple antibiotic cream on the scratches and I had her wrapped in a bath towel like a mummy! Afterward she was panting, drooling, vomiting and hid for several hours. Not doing that to her or me again. So I will have to wait until the 18th to get her to the vet but she is sticking around the yard now and actually was sitting at the door like she -almost- wanted in so I guess that will have to do Thanks again cause I was hesitant to do that to her but what the heck. If I can have a little 5 week old kittens rotten, ready to rupture eyes removed I guess I can the rotten teeth of a full grown kitten pulled~. Kat On 7/11/11, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Cats have a way of knowing meds are in the food you are giving them. Unlike dogs who gulp it down so fast they never realize meds were in it. Medicating Casey is life threatening, I almost need to make a reservation at the ER for a couple of pints of blood for me. She bites, scratches, screams and like you said, we are both so worn out, frustrated that it almost seems to do more harm than good. If she needs meds, we head to the vet. More hands to hld her down. I have gotten a muzzle, but that makes her so angry that she won't have anything to do with me for at least a couple of hours. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: Reply to: felineres...@frontier.com In-Reply-To: CAArM-_-2ryAGGq9SY-77suew7TtR5qZS+jFj-UAbtGn7pr6A=q...@mail.gmail.com Thanks for taking care of Luke. It's very difficult taking care of a cat who fights your every effort to help her/hin. You are very kind. Lorrie On 07-09, katskat1 wrote: Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed. She is obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse. She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live. I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside - has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are ALL negatives. But she sticks around and I don't have many options. Now, if only I could successfully medicate her. She will not eat anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with any med of any kind. Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are breathing hard. Not good for her. Or me. So I am trying to give her quality of whatever life she has Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help. kat ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth
Reply to: felineres...@frontier.com In-Reply-To: CAArM-_-2ryAGGq9SY-77suew7TtR5qZS+jFj-UAbtGn7pr6A=q...@mail.gmail.com Thanks for taking care of Luke. It's very difficult taking care of a cat who fights your every effort to help her/hin. You are very kind. Lorrie On 07-09, katskat1 wrote: Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed. She is obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse. She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live. I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside - has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are ALL negatives. But she sticks around and I don't have many options. Now, if only I could successfully medicate her. She will not eat anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with any med of any kind. Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are breathing hard. Not good for her. Or me. So I am trying to give her quality of whatever life she has Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help. kat ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth
If you can find the money and please be very blunt with the vets and techs about finances leave him at the vets for a week or more. They have the ability to get meds into him and may even get him accustomed to people. Red and Pretty Boy spent a lot of time at the vets (Red for a nasty tick carried disease and PB for teeth). Both came back a lot more gentle. Mad as hell but gentle and the time they spent in the garage helped. People bring food. Cats like food. Person talks but has food. I would not try to pick either one up and hug him but they are a lot better than they were and they are hanging around the house more. Vets and vet techs have given me lots of ideas for dealing with wild cats---some fit me and the ones I care for and some don't. You have to pick and chose but ask. Also there are some long acting antibiotic shots. I found out about this when I had Copper and Thomas' teeth cleaned. It is more expensive but you know the cat is medicated. We used this when Soot got an infection from some bites. I did not see him from the time I put him in the garage until I opened the door for him to choose to leaveno way to medicate properly. If the teeth are rotten/infected get rid of them. On Jul 10, 2011, at 9:43 AM, Lorrie wrote: Reply to: felineres...@frontier.com In-Reply-To: CAArM-_-2ryAGGq9SY-77suew7TtR5qZS+jFj-UAbtGn7pr6A=q...@mail.gmail.com Thanks for taking care of Luke. It's very difficult taking care of a cat who fights your every effort to help her/hin. You are very kind. Lorrie On 07-09, katskat1 wrote: Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed. She is obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse. She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live. I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside - has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are ALL negatives. But she sticks around and I don't have many options. Now, if only I could successfully medicate her. She will not eat anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with any med of any kind. Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are breathing hard. Not good for her. Or me. So I am trying to give her quality of whatever life she has Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help. kat ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth
Cats have a way of knowing meds are in the food you are giving them. Unlike dogs who gulp it down so fast they never realize meds were in it. Medicating Casey is life threatening, I almost need to make a reservation at the ER for a couple of pints of blood for me. She bites, scratches, screams and like you said, we are both so worn out, frustrated that it almost seems to do more harm than good. If she needs meds, we head to the vet. More hands to hld her down. I have gotten a muzzle, but that makes her so angry that she won't have anything to do with me for at least a couple of hours. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: Reply to: felineres...@frontier.com In-Reply-To: CAArM-_-2ryAGGq9SY-77suew7TtR5qZS+jFj-UAbtGn7pr6A=q...@mail.gmail.com Thanks for taking care of Luke. It's very difficult taking care of a cat who fights your every effort to help her/hin. You are very kind. Lorrie On 07-09, katskat1 wrote: Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed. She is obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse. She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live. I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside - has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are ALL negatives. But she sticks around and I don't have many options. Now, if only I could successfully medicate her. She will not eat anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with any med of any kind. Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are breathing hard. Not good for her. Or me. So I am trying to give her quality of whatever life she has Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help. kat ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org