[Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again
after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat again. Tuna, sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today. He is having bursts of playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets pissed off and kicks litter out of his box, paces around crying and begging to go outside. He is depressed and angry. I just can't wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow and cold - after we made such progress. We live off a busy street - it's everything we got away from with him. The other thing is now he knows we live on the other side of the door with other kitties. Everything was fun until this dr apt and the outside door to his room froze over. I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro rx, but how I will pill this guy, I have no idea. this is so heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up. argh. Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again
Don't let him get to you - no matter how much he objects. Pretty soon, he'll be more than happy to be safe inside! Have you tried heating up the food or adding some very hot water to it? Does he have some toys, catnip to keep him busy? BTW, if you get Rescue Remedy, you don't necessarily have to get it into his mouth - you can place a few drops on the skin on his forehead or closer to the ear where the fur isn't so dense. I still think that Feliway could help a lot. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat again. Tuna, sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today. He is having bursts of playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets pissed off and kicks litter out of his box, paces around crying and begging to go outside. He is depressed and angry. I just can't wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow and cold - after we made such progress. We live off a busy street - it's everything we got away from with him. The other thing is now he knows we live on the other side of the door with other kitties. Everything was fun until this dr apt and the outside door to his room froze over. I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro rx, but how I will pill this guy, I have no idea. this is so heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up. argh. Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again
hi Natalie, Yes, tried heating the food, too, added his fave treats; 4 flavors of tiki, regular tuna, regular sardines, kibble, steak from Christmas, - he's got several interactive toys that he loves, cat trees, scratching pads/posts, sunny windows, catnip toys, loose catnip, filtered water, heat reflecting beds, daily brushings and daily feather stick sessions. I'm wondering if he'd like a little tv or some music. I have never had luck with Feliway nor Rescue Remedy though I can try them again with him. We tried Feliway the day of the vet visit. It's so frustrating because he was doing so great! We feel he is saying 'I want to be IN the house with you, daddy, and my brothers OR I want to be outside. I don't want to be in purgatory. I did get an RX for cypro, so I will pick that up, try baby food (onion free of course), KFC; When the other boys don't eat, I can syringe, pill them, etc - but lil Whimsy still has that feral streak come out. But we have to try everything. thank you for your support!! --- On Sun, 12/26/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:15 AM Don't let him get to you - no matter how much he objects. Pretty soon, he'll be more than happy to be safe inside! Have you tried heating up the food or adding some very hot water to it? Does he have some toys, catnip to keep him busy? BTW, if you get Rescue Remedy, you don't necessarily have to get it into his mouth - you can place a few drops on the skin on his forehead or closer to the ear where the fur isn't so dense. I still think that Feliway could help a lot. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat again. Tuna, sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today. He is having bursts of playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets pissed off and kicks litter out of his box, paces around crying and begging to go outside. He is depressed and angry. I just can't wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow and cold - after we made such progress. We live off a busy street - it's everything we got away from with him. The other thing is now he knows we live on the other side of the door with other kitties. Everything was fun until this dr apt and the outside door to his room froze over. I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro rx, but how I will pill this guy, I have no idea. this is so heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up. argh. Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again
I know I don't post very often but like to say that I use all of the things I listed below. Original KFC chicken Cypro Rescue Remedy in the water Feliway plugins I use and do all of this when kitties are not feeling good, not eating or just in a bad mood if they can't get their own way. My rescue and personalcats do not go outdoors. Anyway, just my thoughtsgood luck! TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUESultan, WA. 98294Terrie Mohr-Forkerhttp://tazzys.org/Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating againFrom: Natalie at...@optonline.netDate: Sun, December 26, 2010 7:15 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgDon't let him get to you - no matter how much he objects. Pretty soon,he'll be more than happy to be safe inside! Have you tried heating up thefood or adding some very hot water to it? Does he have some toys, catnip tokeep him busy? BTW, if you get Rescue Remedy, you don't necessarily have toget it into his mouth - you can place a few drops on the skin on hisforehead or closer to the ear where the fur isn't so dense. I still thinkthat Feliway could help a lot.-Original Message-From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of EmeraldkitteeSent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:46 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating againafter a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat again. Tuna,sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today. He is having bursts ofplaying alot, wants to cuddle, then gets pissed off and kicks litter out ofhis box, paces around crying and begging to go outside. He is depressed andangry. I just can't wrap my head around letting him out in all that snowand cold - after we made such progress.We live off a busy street - it'severything wegot away from with him.The other thing is now he knows welive on the other side of the door with other kitties. Everything was fununtil this dr apt and the outside door to his room froze over. I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro rx, but how I will pill thisguy, I have no idea. this is so heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up. argh.Shannon___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again
Actually, that's a great idea. Whenever I have ferals, I play radio with talk shows so that they get used to human voices. But this little guy seems beyond that stage. After that, classical music is very soothing to cats. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 11:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again hi Natalie, Yes, tried heating the food, too, added his fave treats; 4 flavors of tiki, regular tuna, regular sardines, kibble, steak from Christmas, - he's got several interactive toys that he loves, cat trees, scratching pads/posts, sunny windows, catnip toys, loose catnip, filtered water, heat reflecting beds, daily brushings and daily feather stick sessions. I'm wondering if he'd like a little tv or some music. I have never had luck with Feliway nor Rescue Remedy though I can try them again with him. We tried Feliway the day of the vet visit. It's so frustrating because he was doing so great! We feel he is saying 'I want to be IN the house with you, daddy, and my brothers OR I want to be outside. I don't want to be in purgatory. I did get an RX for cypro, so I will pick that up, try baby food (onion free of course), KFC; When the other boys don't eat, I can syringe, pill them, etc - but lil Whimsy still has that feral streak come out. But we have to try everything. thank you for your support!! --- On Sun, 12/26/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:15 AM Don't let him get to you - no matter how much he objects. Pretty soon, he'll be more than happy to be safe inside! Have you tried heating up the food or adding some very hot water to it? Does he have some toys, catnip to keep him busy? BTW, if you get Rescue Remedy, you don't necessarily have to get it into his mouth - you can place a few drops on the skin on his forehead or closer to the ear where the fur isn't so dense. I still think that Feliway could help a lot. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat again. Tuna, sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today. He is having bursts of playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets pissed off and kicks litter out of his box, paces around crying and begging to go outside. He is depressed and angry. I just can't wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow and cold - after we made such progress. We live off a busy street - it's everything we got away from with him. The other thing is now he knows we live on the other side of the door with other kitties. Everything was fun until this dr apt and the outside door to his room froze over. I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro rx, but how I will pill this guy, I have no idea. this is so heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up. argh. Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again
Have you tried the catnip spray?? Have you tried the cheapest tuna or maybe raw hamburger (room temp)? Hot water on top of the hamburger brings out the juices and has helped some ferals eat and/or drink the juices. Re tuna: The nice solid white doesn't work. Even my healthy guys want nothing to do with that...the very cheap, in water stuff that may turn your stomach. On Dec 26, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Natalie wrote: Actually, that's a great idea. Whenever I have ferals, I play radio with talk shows so that they get used to human voices. But this little guy seems beyond that stage. After that, classical music is very soothing to cats. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 11:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again hi Natalie, Yes, tried heating the food, too, added his fave treats; 4 flavors of tiki, regular tuna, regular sardines, kibble, steak from Christmas, - he's got several interactive toys that he loves, cat trees, scratching pads/ posts, sunny windows, catnip toys, loose catnip, filtered water, heat reflecting beds, daily brushings and daily feather stick sessions. I'm wondering if he'd like a little tv or some music. I have never had luck with Feliway nor Rescue Remedy though I can try them again with him. We tried Feliway the day of the vet visit. It's so frustrating because he was doing so great! We feel he is saying 'I want to be IN the house with you, daddy, and my brothers OR I want to be outside. I don't want to be in purgatory. I did get an RX for cypro, so I will pick that up, try baby food (onion free of course), KFC; When the other boys don't eat, I can syringe, pill them, etc - but lil Whimsy still has that feral streak come out. But we have to try everything. thank you for your support!! --- On Sun, 12/26/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:15 AM Don't let him get to you - no matter how much he objects. Pretty soon, he'll be more than happy to be safe inside! Have you tried heating up the food or adding some very hot water to it? Does he have some toys, catnip to keep him busy? BTW, if you get Rescue Remedy, you don't necessarily have to get it into his mouth - you can place a few drops on the skin on his forehead or closer to the ear where the fur isn't so dense. I still think that Feliway could help a lot. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat again. Tuna, sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today. He is having bursts of playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets pissed off and kicks litter out of his box, paces around crying and begging to go outside. He is depressed and angry. I just can't wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow and cold - after we made such progress. We live off a busy street - it's everything we got away from with him. The other thing is now he knows we live on the other side of the door with other kitties. Everything was fun until this dr apt and the outside door to his room froze over. I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro rx, but how I will pill this guy, I have no idea. this is so heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up. argh. Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again
This might sound silly, but I sing to my cats. Like when I'm taming and socializing feral kittens... It seems to work and I have fun :-) When I spend time (in the summer) at feral colonies I feed, I put out smelly/ yummy tuna or mackerel and sing. I have no real proof that it works, but the cats don't seem to mind me hanging out. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2010, at 4:58 PM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried the catnip spray?? Have you tried the cheapest tuna or maybe raw hamburger (room temp)? Hot water on top of the hamburger brings out the juices and has helped some ferals eat and/or drink the juices. Re tuna: The nice solid white doesn't work. Even my healthy guys want nothing to do with that...the very cheap, in water stuff that may turn your stomach. On Dec 26, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Natalie wrote: Actually, that's a great idea. Whenever I have ferals, I play radio with talk shows so that they get used to human voices. But this little guy seems beyond that stage. After that, classical music is very soothing to cats. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 11:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again hi Natalie, Yes, tried heating the food, too, added his fave treats; 4 flavors of tiki, regular tuna, regular sardines, kibble, steak from Christmas, - he's got several interactive toys that he loves, cat trees, scratching pads/posts, sunny windows, catnip toys, loose catnip, filtered water, heat reflecting beds, daily brushings and daily feather stick sessions. I'm wondering if he'd like a little tv or some music. I have never had luck with Feliway nor Rescue Remedy though I can try them again with him. We tried Feliway the day of the vet visit. It's so frustrating because he was doing so great! We feel he is saying 'I want to be IN the house with you, daddy, and my brothers OR I want to be outside. I don't want to be in purgatory. I did get an RX for cypro, so I will pick that up, try baby food (onion free of course), KFC; When the other boys don't eat, I can syringe, pill them, etc - but lil Whimsy still has that feral streak come out. But we have to try everything. thank you for your support!! --- On Sun, 12/26/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:15 AM Don't let him get to you - no matter how much he objects. Pretty soon, he'll be more than happy to be safe inside! Have you tried heating up the food or adding some very hot water to it? Does he have some toys, catnip to keep him busy? BTW, if you get Rescue Remedy, you don't necessarily have to get it into his mouth - you can place a few drops on the skin on his forehead or closer to the ear where the fur isn't so dense. I still think that Feliway could help a lot. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat again. Tuna, sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today. He is having bursts of playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets pissed off and kicks litter out of his box, paces around crying and begging to go outside. He is depressed and angry. I just can't wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow and cold - after we made such progress. We live off a busy street - it's everything we got away from with him. The other thing is now he knows we live on the other side of the door with other kitties. Everything was fun until this dr apt and the outside door to his room froze over. I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro rx, but how I will pill this guy, I have no idea. this is so heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up. argh. Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again
thanks, Katy! Whimsy loves singing too! he's got his own songs about him, and a special fondness for Annie's Song by John Denver. I may try 'Food, Glorious Food' from Oliver next --- On Sun, 12/26/10, Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com wrote: From: Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 4:25 PM This might sound silly, but I sing to my cats. Like when I'm taming and socializing feral kittens... It seems to work and I have fun :-) When I spend time (in the summer) at feral colonies I feed, I put out smelly/ yummy tuna or mackerel and sing. I have no real proof that it works, but the cats don't seem to mind me hanging out. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2010, at 4:58 PM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried the catnip spray?? Have you tried the cheapest tuna or maybe raw hamburger (room temp)? Hot water on top of the hamburger brings out the juices and has helped some ferals eat and/or drink the juices. Re tuna: The nice solid white doesn't work. Even my healthy guys want nothing to do with that...the very cheap, in water stuff that may turn your stomach. On Dec 26, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Natalie wrote: Actually, that's a great idea. Whenever I have ferals, I play radio with talk shows so that they get used to human voices. But this little guy seems beyond that stage. After that, classical music is very soothing to cats. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 11:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again hi Natalie, Yes, tried heating the food, too, added his fave treats; 4 flavors of tiki, regular tuna, regular sardines, kibble, steak from Christmas, - he's got several interactive toys that he loves, cat trees, scratching pads/posts, sunny windows, catnip toys, loose catnip, filtered water, heat reflecting beds, daily brushings and daily feather stick sessions. I'm wondering if he'd like a little tv or some music. I have never had luck with Feliway nor Rescue Remedy though I can try them again with him. We tried Feliway the day of the vet visit. It's so frustrating because he was doing so great! We feel he is saying 'I want to be IN the house with you, daddy, and my brothers OR I want to be outside. I don't want to be in purgatory. I did get an RX for cypro, so I will pick that up, try baby food (onion free of course), KFC; When the other boys don't eat, I can syringe, pill them, etc - but lil Whimsy still has that feral streak come out. But we have to try everything. thank you for your support!! --- On Sun, 12/26/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:15 AM Don't let him get to you - no matter how much he objects. Pretty soon, he'll be more than happy to be safe inside! Have you tried heating up the food or adding some very hot water to it? Does he have some toys, catnip to keep him busy? BTW, if you get Rescue Remedy, you don't necessarily have to get it into his mouth - you can place a few drops on the skin on his forehead or closer to the ear where the fur isn't so dense. I still think that Feliway could help a lot. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat again. Tuna, sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today. He is having bursts of playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets pissed off and kicks litter out of his box, paces around crying and begging to go outside. He is depressed and angry. I just can't wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow and cold - after we made such progress. We live off a busy street - it's everything we got away from with him. The other thing is now he knows we live on the other side of the door with other kitties. Everything was fun until this dr apt and the outside door to his room froze over. I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro rx, but how I will pill this guy, I have no idea. this is so heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up. argh. Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org