Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing

[trustinhim13]

Lee makes a point, You probably do not want to mix a FL+ cat with others 
if that cat is a fighter. My Pookie is a "total" marshmellow. And he 
doesn't even like to mingle with the other cats. He'll be in the same 
room with them, but never grooms or lies next to them. Also this summer 
when he was symptomatic, he was separated into his own room. I have 
heard that what most often kills FL+ cats is an infection that they 
cannot fight because the virus attacks their immune system. My holistic 
vet, besides the accupuncture, has proscribed Wei Qi (Way chee) for his 
immune system. He is also on Standard Process Feline Immune System 
Support. The regular vets will not know about these (sadly). The Baytril 
(regular vet) knock out what secondary infection he came up with, and 
the accupuncture and these other herbs brought him to full health. 
Because the holistic vet was so helpful, I would recommend them to 
anyone. No kiddingone day he was not eating and running a 
tempthe day after the accupuncture, he jumped on my lap, had a cold 
nose, and started eating. I don't care how it works.but it did for 
him. Grateful mom..



On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Lee Evans wrote:

What I meant is that I don't mix leukemia positive cats into my 
general group as I would an FIV positive cat with a marshmallow 
personality who does not fight, not an alpha cat type. I did have two 
feline leukemia positive cats for over two years. They lived together 
in a separate room with each other. They were perfectly healthy for 
those two years, then suddenly turned symptomatic. One passed away 
quickly from what the vet diagnosed as bone marrow cancer. The other 
simply lost weight uncontrollably and followed his buddy over the 
edge. He probably also had bone marrow cancer or lymphoma. Those are 
the most likely two illness that kill the leukemia positive cats when 
the disease goes active. I also found a wonderful  person who had had 
losses from feline leukemia but was willing to go through the 
heartbreak again just to give a cat a chance at life. One of the cats 
I gave to her passed away in two years. The second one I begged her to 
take ( I think
 she was ready to shoot me when phoned to ask if she would foster 
another FeLv+ cat) is still living the life of luxury with her. It has 
been 6 years and counting so far. Keeping all fingers and paws 
crossed.








From: Shelley Theye 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 
6:39 PM

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing


Hi,
Thanks for describing your cats' histories.
Can you explain what you mean in the last few sentences of your 
posting? 
However, I do not mix positive-for- leukemia cats with my regular 
group. Right now all the cats who are with me are either negative or 
turned.


Shelley


On Sep 24, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Lee Evans wrote:




From: Lee Evans 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:33 PM

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing

You are a good, caring and compassionate person. I don't feel that 
FeLv is as contagious as vets try to panic us into thinking. I had 
two cats mixed in with 8 others. They all lived together in cat 
harmony for many years, grooming each other, eating, drinking 
together and using the same litter boxes. They lived in love and 
happiness. Then Tiger and Twerp became ill. They were very old, 
around 15 years. I had had them tested twice throughout their 
lifetime when each had come down with a very stubborn URI. But they 
had tested negative both times. At the end of their days, I had them 
tested again to see if they were not suffering from old age but from 
something I could possibly treat. Along with the fact that they both 
had renal failure, they both tested positive for FeLv. Probably, the 
virus was dormant in the bone marrow all those years but when their 
immune system began to break down and their kidneys were failing, 
the virus took hold also. They
 passed away quietly within hours of each other. The other 8 cats who 
had been living with them tested negative for everything and all died 
of old age and renal failure. I don't know when Tiger and Twerp became 
actively FeLv+ but it doesn't matter. It shows that even with such 
close interaction, the cats that did not test positive still did not 
test positive. However, I do not mix positive-for- leukemia cats with 
my regular group. Right now all the cats who are with me are either 
negative or turned. However, I do have a few little marshmallows who 
are FIV+ mixed into the group because they don't fight. I also have a 
small FIV "shelter", a detached building of one large room and a 
wire-enclosed porch for four FIV+ cats who have a bit of an attitude 
and are not to be trusted to keep a friendly discussion friendly.







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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing

[Lee Evans]

What I meant is that I don't mix leukemia positive cats into my general group 
as I would an FIV positive cat with a marshmallow personality who does not 
fight, not an alpha cat type. I did have two feline leukemia positive cats for 
over two years. They lived together in a separate room with each other. They 
were perfectly healthy for those two years, then suddenly turned symptomatic. 
One passed away quickly from what the vet diagnosed as bone marrow cancer. The 
other simply lost weight uncontrollably and followed his buddy over the edge. 
He probably also had bone marrow cancer or lymphoma. Those are the most likely 
two illness that kill the leukemia positive cats when the disease goes active. 
I also found a wonderful  person who had had losses from feline leukemia but 
was willing to go through the heartbreak again just to give a cat a chance at 
life. One of the cats I gave to her passed away in two years. The second one I 
begged her to take ( I think
 she was ready to shoot me when phoned to ask if she would foster another FeLv+ 
cat) is still living the life of luxury with her. It has been 6 years and 
counting so far. Keeping all fingers and paws crossed.





>
> From: Shelley Theye 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 6:39 PM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
> 
>
>Hi,
>Thanks for describing your cats' histories.
>Can you explain what you mean in the last few sentences of your posting?  
>> However, I do not mix positive-for- leukemia cats with my regular group. 
>> Right now all the cats who are with me are either negative or turned. 
>
>Shelley
>
>
>On Sep 24, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Lee Evans wrote:
>
>> 
>> 
>> From: Lee Evans 
>> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
>> 
>> You are a good, caring and compassionate person. I don't feel that FeLv is 
>> as contagious as vets try to panic us into thinking. I had two cats mixed in 
>> with 8 others. They all lived together in cat harmony for many years, 
>> grooming each other, eating, drinking together and using the same litter 
>> boxes. They lived in love and happiness. Then Tiger and Twerp became ill. 
>> They were very old, around 15 years. I had had them tested twice throughout 
>> their lifetime when each had come down with a very stubborn URI. But they 
>> had tested negative both times. At the end of their days, I had them tested 
>> again to see if they were not suffering from old age but from something I 
>> could possibly treat. Along with the fact that they both had renal failure, 
>> they both tested positive for FeLv. Probably, the virus was dormant in the 
>> bone marrow all those years but when their immune system began to break down 
>> and their kidneys were failing, the virus took hold also. They
 passed away quietly within hours of each other. The other 8 cats who had been 
living with them tested negative for everything and all died of old age and 
renal failure. I don't know when Tiger and Twerp became actively FeLv+ but it 
doesn't matter. It shows that even with such close interaction, the cats that 
did not test positive still did not test positive. However, I do not mix 
positive-for- leukemia cats with my regular group. Right now all the cats who 
are with me are either negative or turned. However, I do have a few little 
marshmallows who are FIV+ mixed into the group because they don't fight. I also 
have a small FIV "shelter", a detached building of one large room and a 
wire-enclosed porch for four FIV+ cats who have a bit of an attitude and are 
not to be trusted to keep a friendly discussion friendly.
>> 
>>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing

[Shelley Theye]

Hi,
Thanks for describing your cats' histories.
Can you explain what you mean in the last few sentences of your posting?  
> However, I do not mix positive-for- leukemia cats with my regular group. 
> Right now all the cats who are with me are either negative or turned. 

Shelley


On Sep 24, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Lee Evans wrote:

> 
> 
> From: Lee Evans 
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
> 
> You are a good, caring and compassionate person. I don't feel that FeLv is as 
> contagious as vets try to panic us into thinking. I had two cats mixed in 
> with 8 others. They all lived together in cat harmony for many years, 
> grooming each other, eating, drinking together and using the same litter 
> boxes. They lived in love and happiness. Then Tiger and Twerp became ill. 
> They were very old, around 15 years. I had had them tested twice throughout 
> their lifetime when each had come down with a very stubborn URI. But they had 
> tested negative both times. At the end of their days, I had them tested again 
> to see if they were not suffering from old age but from something I could 
> possibly treat. Along with the fact that they both had renal failure, they 
> both tested positive for FeLv. Probably, the virus was dormant in the bone 
> marrow all those years but when their immune system began to break down and 
> their kidneys were failing, the virus took hold also. They passed away 
> quietly within hours of 
 each other. The other 8 cats who had been living with them tested negative for 
everything and all died of old age and renal failure. I don't know when Tiger 
and Twerp became actively FeLv+ but it doesn't matter. It shows that even with 
such close interaction, the cats that did not test positive still did not test 
positive. However, I do not mix positive-for- leukemia cats with my regular 
group. Right now all the cats who are with me are either negative or turned. 
However, I do have a few little marshmallows who are FIV+ mixed into the group 
because they don't fight. I also have a small FIV "shelter", a detached 
building of one large room and a wire-enclosed porch for four FIV+ cats who 
have a bit of an attitude and are not to be trusted to keep a friendly 
discussion friendly.
> 
> From: "trustinhi...@charter.net" 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
> 
> Shelley..
> 
> I lost a cat to FL in the 90's. After that I panicked and faithfully 
> vaccinated my next five cats every year. Then I rescued another FL cat. 
> Separated him from the others while he was symptomatic. He threw off the 
> virus. As fate would have it, other rescues came to my door. I couldn't 
> afford to have them all tested and vaccinated. (13).  All my cats mingle 
> together and non gets sick. I don't even bother to have my rescues 
> tested because I know that I would never put them down anyway. I was 
> encouraged by a women I met years ago who mixed negatives and positves 
> with good results. When my one FL cat has had symptoms (only twice in 4 
> years) I isolate and treat him until he gets better. I am fastidious 
> about clean bowls and water. God is taking care of them and me. If you 
> have the money and you have only a few, get what ever treatment/tests 
> are available. But I wouldn't stress over the testing. My Pookie will 
> always test positive because he carries the disease in his system. But 
> he is healthy as can be otherwise. I finally decided when my Lucy was 13 
> (she's 17 now). to stop vaccinating her. If they don't have enough 
> antibodies built up by then, they never will!  Maybe I am lucky, or just 
> stupid, but I couldn't let an animal die form a lack of a home.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing

[Shelley Theye]

Thanks Lee, that's interesting.  Hadn't thought about a limited contact 
scenario before.
So sorry to hear about your own negative vaccine experience.

Shelley

On Sep 24, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Lee Evans wrote:

> To answer if the foster mom has her cats vaccinated, NO. However, Taffy has 
> her own litter box and own feeding bowl and only mingles with the other cats 
> for a short time during the day, then back to her room with her pooch friend. 
> I'm not too keen on vaccines. I have heard nasty things about the FeLv 
> vaccine, like cats have come down with the disease a few weeks after being 
> vaccinated and had no other source of being infected. I have also had a 
> personal experience with a faulty polio vaccination when I was a teen. It 
> left me with nerve damage which has not improved with age but at least I 
> wasn't paralyzed, just in pain for a couple of years while my muscles gained 
> strength with physical therapy. Vaccines are not the perfect answer to 
> everything.
> 
> 
> From: Shelley Theye 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
> 
> Hi Lee,
> 
> Thanks for explaining.  Not sure if there is hope for Leo to still turn 
> negative.  He tested positive last July, when trapped and neutered, and then 
> again in Nov.  I haven't retested yet, and am thinking of doing the IFA too.  
> Does the woman who has Taffy have all of her other cats vaccinated for FeLV?
> 
> Do most people on this list who mix positive and negatives have their 
> negatives vaccinated for FeLV?
> 
> Shelley
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 24, 2013, at 1:00 PM, Lee Evans wrote:
> 
> > Hi Shelley - I'm not sure as to when they were exposed. These were cats 
> > rescued from different places at different times. One, a male who I have 
> > had not for about 6 to 7 years, was rescued when he was not neutered, 
> > around age 2, street cat, but tame. Since I was going to get him adopted 
> > after neutering, I had him tested before I took him into my own house. He 
> > tested negative for FIV but positive for FeLv. I tested again at another 
> > vet. Still positive, but that vet suggested that I keep him for two months 
> > and then re-test. This guy was on top of the latest literature in vet 
> > medicine. So I did so, took Moses (cats name) back and he had turned 
> > negative. Not to say that I did not believe the test but too, Moses for yet 
> > another test and he was again negative. He's still with me.
> > 
> > Bunny (Buns for short) is a female, abandoned at an apartment complex 
> > (notorious for abandoned, feral and stray cats). She was less than a year 
> > old when she was brought to me on Easter Morning. Thus her name, Bunny. I 
> > put her in a separate room, then took to vet to be tested. She tested 
> > positive for FeLv. Kept her isolated, did not spay, re-tested in about 3 
> > months, she tested negative. Tested again to be sure. Negative again so got 
> > her spayed. 
> > 
> > However, my luck did not hold very well. Recently had a rescued kitten 
> > brought to me. I took Taffy to a local Humane Society in Bulverde Texas. 
> > They tested her prior to putting her up for adoption. When they tested her, 
> > she tested positive for FeLv. I took her back, found her a foster home with 
> > a wonderful foster mom, who kept her isolated for 3 months but Taffy still 
> > tested positive at the end of the isolation period. Fortunately, Foster mom 
> > loves her and although Taffy doesn't mix in to the community of 7 cats that 
> > Foster Mom has, Taffy lives with Foster Mom's dog in a spare bedroom and 
> > gets to socialize with the cats except during feeding time. Taffy is 
> > perfectly happy with the arrangement. So is the dog.
> > 
> > The adults probably contracted FeLv during mating behavior. I suspect that 
> > Taffy got it from her birth mother but was not able to fight off the virus 
> > as a kitten because she did not have very good care and ended up as a 
> > little street stray.
> > 
> > 
> > From: Shelley Theye 
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:49 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
> > 
> > Lee,
> > 
> > Can you explain more about the 2 month period for the adults that you have 
> > that threw off the virus?
> > Do you know when they were first exposed, in other words could they have 
> > had the FeLV virus for more than 2 months
> > before they ever were tested?
> > 
> > Shelley
> > 
> > 

Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing

[Shelley Theye]

Thanks Sharly.  I am nervous to intentionally mix, but I don't want Leo to be 
alone forever.  
My other cats have never received the FeLV vaccine so far.

Shelley 



On Sep 24, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Sharyl wrote:

> Shelly all I can d I tell you what I did.  When I was rescuing FeLV kittens I 
> did have all my negatives vaccinated.  It has been over 3 years since my last 
> FeLV cat died.  All of my negatives are still with me and are fine
>  
> Sharyl
> 
> From: Shelley Theye 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
> 
> Hi Lee,
> 
> Thanks for explaining.  Not sure if there is hope for Leo to still turn 
> negative.  He tested positive last July, when trapped and neutered, and then 
> again in Nov.  I haven't retested yet, and am thinking of doing the IFA too.  
> Does the woman who has Taffy have all of her other cats vaccinated for FeLV?
> 
> Do most people on this list who mix positive and negatives have their 
> negatives vaccinated for FeLV?
> 
> Shelley
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing

[Shelley Theye]

 bedroom and 
>>> gets to socialize with the cats except during feeding time. Taffy is 
>>> perfectly happy with the arrangement. So is the dog.
>>> 
>>> The adults probably contracted FeLv during mating behavior. I suspect that 
>>> Taffy got it from her birth mother but was not able to fight off the virus 
>>> as a kitten because she did not have very good care and ended up as a 
>>> little street stray.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Shelley Theye 
>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:49 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
>>> 
>>> Lee,
>>> 
>>> Can you explain more about the 2 month period for the adults that you have 
>>> that threw off the virus?
>>> Do you know when they were first exposed, in other words could they have 
>>> had the FeLV virus for more than 2 months
>>> before they ever were tested?
>>> 
>>> Shelley
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Lee Evans wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have had a lot of success with adult cats who threw off the virus in 
>>>> about 2 months and tested negative from then on. For kittens, they may or 
>>>> may not have been actually positive. Since their immune system is not 
>>>> fully developed, they might not throw off the virus as soon as adults. Too 
>>>> bad about the idiot vet who gave the adopters such ridiculously incorrect 
>>>> advice. Keep the kittens for another 4 weeks, then re-test. You really 
>>>> should find them a home with a person who understands that a positive test 
>>>> does not mean the kitten should be killed. If they are still looking and 
>>>> feeling well, let them live. A home with no other cats or with 
>>>> cat-friendly dog is the best for this type of kitten.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Betheny Laubenthal 
>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:04 PM
>>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
>>>> 
>>>> What's the earliest that testing using a SNAP test for FeLV/FIV can be 
>>>> done so that it is accurate?  I know that if it is done early on, it can 
>>>> be inaccurate.
>>>> The reason I asked is that we adopted out a 10 week old kitten July 16.  
>>>> We did not test.  I don't like testing before 16 weeks.  We pulled the 
>>>> kitten and her sister from another state.  Mom was in a high kill shelter. 
>>>>  She was PTS before we could rescue her.  The rest of the litter was PTS.  
>>>> Miles and Journey were the only ones left.
>>>> Today, the kitten (Miles) tested positive for leukemia and was PTS (the 
>>>> ill informed vet used scare tactics on the owner and made the owner think 
>>>> that her dogs could get it).  I was called after the fact.
>>>> What is proper testing protocol?  Vaccination protcol?  I use a 4 way with 
>>>> feline leukemia, killed virus.
>>>> --Beth
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MY ANNIE STIL TESTS POSITIVE, BUT SHE IS SO HEALTHY IT IS RIDUCULUS.  THE 
NEGATIVE CATS GET FELV VACCINE.  THEY EAT, DRINK AND PLAY TOGETHER, SQUABBLE 
SOMETIMES, BUT JUST SLAPPING AND HISSING, NO BITTING.  

 trustinhi...@charter.net wrote: 
> Shelley..
> 
> I lost a cat to FL in the 90's. After that I panicked and faithfully 
> vaccinated my next five cats every year. Then I rescued another FL cat. 
> Separated him from the others while he was symptomatic. He threw off the 
> virus. As fate would have it, other rescues came to my door. I couldn't 
> afford to have them all tested and vaccinated. (13).  All my cats mingle 
> together and non gets sick. I don't even bother to have my rescues 
> tested because I know that I would never put them down anyway. I was 
> encouraged by a women I met years ago who mixed negatives and positves 
> with good results. When my one FL cat has had symptoms (only twice in 4 
> years) I isolate and treat him until he gets better. I am fastidious 
> about clean bowls and water. God is taking care of them and me. If you 
> have the money and you have only a few, get what ever treatment/tests 
> are available. But I wouldn't stress over the testing. My Pookie will 
> always test positive because he carries the disease in his system. But 
> he is healthy as can be otherwise. I finally decided when my Lucy was 13 
> (she's 17 now). to stop vaccinating her. If they don't have enough 
> antibodies built up by then, they never will!  Maybe I am lucky, or just 
> stupid, but I couldn't let an animal die form a lack of a home.
> 
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Shelley Theye wrote:
> 
> > Hi Lee,
> >
> > Thanks for explaining.  Not sure if there is hope for Leo to still 
> > turn negative.  He tested positive last July, when trapped and 
> > neutered, and then again in Nov.  I haven't retested yet, and am 
> > thinking of doing the IFA too.  Does the woman who has Taffy have all 
> > of her other cats vaccinated for FeLV?
> >
> > Do most people on this list who mix positive and negatives have their 
> > negatives vaccinated for FeLV?
> >
> > Shelley
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sep 24, 2013, at 1:00 PM, Lee Evans wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Shelley - I'm not sure as to when they were exposed. These were 
> >> cats rescued from different places at different times. One, a male 
> >> who I have had not for about 6 to 7 years, was rescued when he was 
> >> not neutered, around age 2, street cat, but tame. Since I was going 
> >> to get him adopted after neutering, I had him tested before I took 
> >> him into my own house. He tested negative for FIV but positive for 
> >> FeLv. I tested again at another vet. Still positive, but that vet 
> >> suggested that I keep him for two months and then re-test. This guy 
> >> was on top of the latest literature in vet medicine. So I did so, 
> >> took Moses (cats name) back and he had turned negative. Not to say 
> >> that I did not believe the test but too, Moses for yet another test 
> >> and he was again negative. He's still with me.
> >>
> >> Bunny (Buns for short) is a female, abandoned at an apartment complex 
> >> (notorious for abandoned, feral and stray cats). She was less than a 
> >> year old when she was brought to me on Easter Morning. Thus her name, 
> >> Bunny. I put her in a separate room, then took to vet to be tested. 
> >> She tested positive for FeLv. Kept her isolated, did not spay, 
> >> re-tested in about 3 months, she tested negative. Tested again to be 
> >> sure. Negative again so got her spayed.
> >> However, my luck did not hold very well. Recently had a rescued 
> >> kitten brought to me. I took Taffy to a local Humane Society in 
> >> Bulverde Texas. They tested her prior to putting her up for adoption. 
> >> When they tested her, she tested positive for FeLv. I took her back, 
> >> found her a foster home with a wonderful foster mom, who kept her 
> >> isolated for 3 months but Taffy still tested positive at the end of 
> >> the isolation period. Fortunately, Foster mom loves her and although 
> >> Taffy doesn't mix in to the community of 7 cats that Foster Mom has, 
> >> Taffy lives with Foster Mom's dog in a spare bedroom and gets to 
> >> socialize with the cats except during feeding time. Taffy is 
> >> perfectly happy with the arrangement. So is the dog.
> >>
> >> The adults probably contracted FeLv during mating behavior. I suspect 
> >> that Taffy got it from her birth mother but was not 

[Felvtalk] Fw: Question about FeLV/FIV testing

[Lee Evans]

From: Lee Evans 
>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
>Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:33 PM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
> 
>
>
>You are a good, caring and compassionate person. I don't feel that FeLv is as 
>contagious as vets try to panic us into thinking. I had two cats mixed in with 
>8 others. They all lived together in cat harmony for many years, grooming each 
>other, eating, drinking together and using the same litter boxes. They lived 
>in love and happiness. Then Tiger and Twerp became ill. They were very old, 
>around 15 years. I had had them tested twice throughout their lifetime when 
>each had come down with a very stubborn URI. But they had tested negative both 
>times. At the end of their days, I had them tested again to see if they were 
>not suffering from old age but from something I could possibly treat. Along 
>with the fact that they both had renal failure, they both tested positive for 
>FeLv. Probably, the virus was dormant in the bone marrow all those years but 
>when their immune system began to break down and their kidneys were failing, 
>the virus took hold also. They passed
 away quietly within hours of each other. The other 8 cats who had been living 
with them tested negative for everything and all died of old age and renal 
failure. I don't know when Tiger and Twerp became actively FeLv+ but it doesn't 
matter. It shows that even with such close interaction, the cats that did not 
test positive still did not test positive. However, I do not mix positive-for- 
leukemia cats with my regular group. Right now all the cats who are with me are 
either negative or turned. However, I do have a few little marshmallows who are 
FIV+ mixed into the group because they don't fight. I also have a small FIV 
"shelter", a detached building of one large room and a wire-enclosed porch for 
four FIV+ cats who have a bit of an attitude and are not to be trusted to keep 
a friendly discussion friendly.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> From: "trustinhi...@charter.net" 
>>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:22 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
>> 
>>
>>Shelley..
>>
>>I lost a cat to FL in the 90's. After that I panicked and faithfully 
>>vaccinated my next five cats every year. Then I
 rescued another FL cat. 
>>Separated him from the others while he was symptomatic. He threw off the 
>>virus. As fate would have it, other rescues came to my door. I couldn't 
>>afford to have them all tested and vaccinated. (13).  All my cats mingle 
>>together and non gets sick. I don't even bother to have my rescues 
>>tested because I know that I would never put them down anyway. I was 
>>encouraged by a women I met years ago who mixed negatives and positves 
>>with good results. When my one FL cat has had symptoms (only twice in 4 
>>years) I isolate and treat him until he gets better. I am fastidious 
>>about clean bowls and water. God is taking care of them and me. If you 
>>have the money and you have only a few, get what ever treatment/tests 
>>are available. But I wouldn't stress over the testing. My Pookie will 
>>always test positive because he carries the disease in his system. But 
>>he is healthy as can be otherwise. I
 finally decided when my Lucy was 13 
>>(she's 17 now). to stop vaccinating her. If they don't have enough 
>>antibodies built up by then, they never will!  Maybe I am lucky, or just 
>>stupid, but I couldn't let an animal die form a lack of a home.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing

[Lee Evans]

To answer if the foster mom has her cats vaccinated, NO. However, Taffy has her 
own litter box and own feeding bowl and only mingles with the other cats for a 
short time during the day, then back to her room with her pooch friend. I'm not 
too keen on vaccines. I have heard nasty things about the FeLv vaccine, like 
cats have come down with the disease a few weeks after being vaccinated and had 
no other source of being infected. I have also had a personal experience with a 
faulty polio vaccination when I was a teen. It left me with nerve damage which 
has not improved with age but at least I wasn't paralyzed, just in pain for a 
couple of years while my muscles gained strength with physical therapy. 
Vaccines are not the perfect answer to everything.





>
> From: Shelley Theye 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:03 PM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
> 
>
>Hi Lee,
>
>Thanks for explaining.  Not sure if there is hope for Leo to still turn 
>negative.  He tested positive last July, when trapped and neutered, and then 
>again in Nov.  I haven't retested yet, and am thinking of doing the IFA too.  
>Does the woman who has Taffy have all of her other cats vaccinated for FeLV?
>
>Do most people on this list who mix positive and negatives have their 
>negatives vaccinated for FeLV?
>
>Shelley
>
>
>
>On Sep 24, 2013, at 1:00 PM, Lee Evans wrote:
>
>> Hi Shelley - I'm not sure as to when they were exposed. These were cats 
>> rescued from different places at different times. One, a male who I have had 
>> not for about 6 to 7 years, was rescued when he was not neutered, around age 
>> 2, street cat, but tame. Since I was going to get him adopted after 
>> neutering, I had him tested before I took him into my own house. He tested 
>> negative for FIV but positive for FeLv. I tested again at another vet. Still 
>> positive, but that vet suggested that I keep him for two months and then 
>> re-test. This guy was on top of the latest literature in vet medicine. So I 
>> did so, took Moses (cats name) back and he had turned negative. Not to say 
>> that I did not believe the test but too, Moses for yet another test and he 
>> was again negative. He's still with me.
>> 
>> Bunny (Buns for short) is a female, abandoned at an apartment complex 
>> (notorious for abandoned, feral and stray cats). She was less than a year 
>> old when she was brought to me on Easter Morning. Thus her name, Bunny. I 
>> put her in a separate room, then took to vet to be tested. She tested 
>> positive for FeLv. Kept her isolated, did not spay, re-tested in about 3 
>> months, she tested negative. Tested again to be sure. Negative again so got 
>> her spayed. 
>> 
>> However, my luck did not hold very well. Recently had a rescued kitten 
>> brought to me. I took Taffy to a local Humane Society in Bulverde Texas. 
>> They tested her prior to putting her up for adoption. When they tested her, 
>> she tested positive for FeLv. I took her back, found her a foster home with 
>> a wonderful foster mom, who kept her isolated for 3 months but Taffy still 
>> tested positive at the end of the isolation period. Fortunately, Foster mom 
>> loves her and although Taffy doesn't mix in to the community of 7 cats that 
>> Foster Mom has, Taffy lives with Foster Mom's dog in a spare bedroom and 
>> gets to socialize with the cats except during feeding time. Taffy is 
>> perfectly happy with the arrangement. So is the dog.
>> 
>> The adults probably contracted FeLv during mating behavior. I suspect that 
>> Taffy got it from her birth mother but was not able to fight off the virus 
>> as a kitten because she did not have very good care and ended up as a little 
>> street stray.
>> 
>> 
>> From: Shelley Theye 
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
>> 
>> Lee,
>> 
>> Can you explain more about the 2 month period for the adults that you have 
>> that threw off the virus?
>> Do you know when they were first exposed, in other words could they have had 
>> the FeLV virus for more than 2 months
>> before they ever were tested?
>> 
>> Shelley
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Lee Evans wrote:
>> 
>> > I have had a lot of success with adult cats who threw off the virus in 
>> > about 2 months and tested negative from then on. For kittens, they may or 
>> > may not have been actually positive. Since

Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing

[Sharyl]

Shelly all I can d I tell you what I did.  When I was rescuing FeLV kittens I 
did have all my negatives vaccinated.  It has been over 3 years since my last 
FeLV cat died.  All of my negatives are still with me and are fine
 
Sharyl
 


 From: Shelley Theye 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
  

Hi Lee,

Thanks for explaining.  Not sure if there is hope for Leo to still turn 
negative.  He tested positive last July, when trapped and neutered, and then 
again in Nov.  I haven't retested yet, and am thinking of doing the IFA too.  
Does the woman who has Taffy have all of her other cats vaccinated for FeLV?

Do most people on this list who mix positive and negatives have their negatives 
vaccinated for FeLV?

Shelley___
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing

[trustinhim13]

Shelley..

I lost a cat to FL in the 90's. After that I panicked and faithfully 
vaccinated my next five cats every year. Then I rescued another FL cat. 
Separated him from the others while he was symptomatic. He threw off the 
virus. As fate would have it, other rescues came to my door. I couldn't 
afford to have them all tested and vaccinated. (13).  All my cats mingle 
together and non gets sick. I don't even bother to have my rescues 
tested because I know that I would never put them down anyway. I was 
encouraged by a women I met years ago who mixed negatives and positves 
with good results. When my one FL cat has had symptoms (only twice in 4 
years) I isolate and treat him until he gets better. I am fastidious 
about clean bowls and water. God is taking care of them and me. If you 
have the money and you have only a few, get what ever treatment/tests 
are available. But I wouldn't stress over the testing. My Pookie will 
always test positive because he carries the disease in his system. But 
he is healthy as can be otherwise. I finally decided when my Lucy was 13 
(she's 17 now). to stop vaccinating her. If they don't have enough 
antibodies built up by then, they never will!  Maybe I am lucky, or just 
stupid, but I couldn't let an animal die form a lack of a home.


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Shelley Theye wrote:


Hi Lee,

Thanks for explaining.  Not sure if there is hope for Leo to still 
turn negative.  He tested positive last July, when trapped and 
neutered, and then again in Nov.  I haven't retested yet, and am 
thinking of doing the IFA too.  Does the woman who has Taffy have all 
of her other cats vaccinated for FeLV?


Do most people on this list who mix positive and negatives have their 
negatives vaccinated for FeLV?


Shelley



On Sep 24, 2013, at 1:00 PM, Lee Evans wrote:

Hi Shelley - I'm not sure as to when they were exposed. These were 
cats rescued from different places at different times. One, a male 
who I have had not for about 6 to 7 years, was rescued when he was 
not neutered, around age 2, street cat, but tame. Since I was going 
to get him adopted after neutering, I had him tested before I took 
him into my own house. He tested negative for FIV but positive for 
FeLv. I tested again at another vet. Still positive, but that vet 
suggested that I keep him for two months and then re-test. This guy 
was on top of the latest literature in vet medicine. So I did so, 
took Moses (cats name) back and he had turned negative. Not to say 
that I did not believe the test but too, Moses for yet another test 
and he was again negative. He's still with me.


Bunny (Buns for short) is a female, abandoned at an apartment complex 
(notorious for abandoned, feral and stray cats). She was less than a 
year old when she was brought to me on Easter Morning. Thus her name, 
Bunny. I put her in a separate room, then took to vet to be tested. 
She tested positive for FeLv. Kept her isolated, did not spay, 
re-tested in about 3 months, she tested negative. Tested again to be 
sure. Negative again so got her spayed.
However, my luck did not hold very well. Recently had a rescued 
kitten brought to me. I took Taffy to a local Humane Society in 
Bulverde Texas. They tested her prior to putting her up for adoption. 
When they tested her, she tested positive for FeLv. I took her back, 
found her a foster home with a wonderful foster mom, who kept her 
isolated for 3 months but Taffy still tested positive at the end of 
the isolation period. Fortunately, Foster mom loves her and although 
Taffy doesn't mix in to the community of 7 cats that Foster Mom has, 
Taffy lives with Foster Mom's dog in a spare bedroom and gets to 
socialize with the cats except during feeding time. Taffy is 
perfectly happy with the arrangement. So is the dog.


The adults probably contracted FeLv during mating behavior. I suspect 
that Taffy got it from her birth mother but was not able to fight off 
the virus as a kitten because she did not have very good care and 
ended up as a little street stray.



From: Shelley Theye 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 
10:49 AM

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing

Lee,

Can you explain more about the 2 month period for the adults that you 
have that threw off the virus?
Do you know when they were first exposed, in other words could they 
have had the FeLV virus for more than 2 months

before they ever were tested?

Shelley



On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Lee Evans wrote:

I have had a lot of success with adult cats who threw off the virus 
in about 2 months and tested negative from then on. For kittens, 
they may or may not have been actually positive. Since their immune 
system is not fully developed, they might not throw off the virus as 
soon as adults. Too bad about the idiot vet who gave the adopters 
such ridiculously incorrect advice. Keep the kittens for a

Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing

[Shelley Theye]

Hi Lee,

Thanks for explaining.  Not sure if there is hope for Leo to still turn 
negative.  He tested positive last July, when trapped and neutered, and then 
again in Nov.  I haven't retested yet, and am thinking of doing the IFA too.  
Does the woman who has Taffy have all of her other cats vaccinated for FeLV?

Do most people on this list who mix positive and negatives have their negatives 
vaccinated for FeLV?

Shelley



On Sep 24, 2013, at 1:00 PM, Lee Evans wrote:

> Hi Shelley - I'm not sure as to when they were exposed. These were cats 
> rescued from different places at different times. One, a male who I have had 
> not for about 6 to 7 years, was rescued when he was not neutered, around age 
> 2, street cat, but tame. Since I was going to get him adopted after 
> neutering, I had him tested before I took him into my own house. He tested 
> negative for FIV but positive for FeLv. I tested again at another vet. Still 
> positive, but that vet suggested that I keep him for two months and then 
> re-test. This guy was on top of the latest literature in vet medicine. So I 
> did so, took Moses (cats name) back and he had turned negative. Not to say 
> that I did not believe the test but too, Moses for yet another test and he 
> was again negative. He's still with me.
> 
> Bunny (Buns for short) is a female, abandoned at an apartment complex 
> (notorious for abandoned, feral and stray cats). She was less than a year old 
> when she was brought to me on Easter Morning. Thus her name, Bunny. I put her 
> in a separate room, then took to vet to be tested. She tested positive for 
> FeLv. Kept her isolated, did not spay, re-tested in about 3 months, she 
> tested negative. Tested again to be sure. Negative again so got her spayed. 
> 
> However, my luck did not hold very well. Recently had a rescued kitten 
> brought to me. I took Taffy to a local Humane Society in Bulverde Texas. They 
> tested her prior to putting her up for adoption. When they tested her, she 
> tested positive for FeLv. I took her back, found her a foster home with a 
> wonderful foster mom, who kept her isolated for 3 months but Taffy still 
> tested positive at the end of the isolation period. Fortunately, Foster mom 
> loves her and although Taffy doesn't mix in to the community of 7 cats that 
> Foster Mom has, Taffy lives with Foster Mom's dog in a spare bedroom and gets 
> to socialize with the cats except during feeding time. Taffy is perfectly 
> happy with the arrangement. So is the dog.
> 
> The adults probably contracted FeLv during mating behavior. I suspect that 
> Taffy got it from her birth mother but was not able to fight off the virus as 
> a kitten because she did not have very good care and ended up as a little 
> street stray.
> 
> 
> From: Shelley Theye 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
> 
> Lee,
> 
> Can you explain more about the 2 month period for the adults that you have 
> that threw off the virus?
> Do you know when they were first exposed, in other words could they have had 
> the FeLV virus for more than 2 months
> before they ever were tested?
> 
> Shelley
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Lee Evans wrote:
> 
> > I have had a lot of success with adult cats who threw off the virus in 
> > about 2 months and tested negative from then on. For kittens, they may or 
> > may not have been actually positive. Since their immune system is not fully 
> > developed, they might not throw off the virus as soon as adults. Too bad 
> > about the idiot vet who gave the adopters such ridiculously incorrect 
> > advice. Keep the kittens for another 4 weeks, then re-test. You really 
> > should find them a home with a person who understands that a positive test 
> > does not mean the kitten should be killed. If they are still looking and 
> > feeling well, let them live. A home with no other cats or with cat-friendly 
> > dog is the best for this type of kitten.
> > 
> > 
> > From: Betheny Laubenthal 
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:04 PM
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
> > 
> > What's the earliest that testing using a SNAP test for FeLV/FIV can be done 
> > so that it is accurate?  I know that if it is done early on, it can be 
> > inaccurate.
> > The reason I asked is that we adopted out a 10 week old kitten July 16.  We 
> > did not test.  I don't like testing before 16 weeks.  We pulled the kitten 
> > and her sister from another state.  Mom was in a high kill shelter.  She 
> > was PTS before we c

Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing

[Margo]

I can't be so hard on Vets anymore. Getting thru Vet school can't educate where 
the whole disease process is so little understood. I have researched FeLV up 
down and sideways, and NOTHING is certain. Two years ago I had a house full of 
negative cats. All my FL cats (we moved to SC) had been tested at LEAST twice. 
No new cat (2) was added without a doubly negative (60 days apart) FeLV test. 
One of the new ones was my first symptomatic +. I now have 2 positives, and 
probably two others, as well. I'm now (to my great distress) vaccinating 
against it. 

Can't figure out what else to do.

Margo

-Original Message-
>From: trustinhi...@charter.net
>Sent: Sep 24, 2013 1:09 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
>
>I agree with Lee completely. It angers me that someone can get through 
>Vet school and still not be knowledgable about this disease. I rescued a 
>male cat, two years old, and only then learned he was FelV+ after he was 
>neutered. He has thrown off the virus twice. He is over 6 now. mingels 
>with my other rescues and no one has gotten sick. Killing kittens 
>becasue they carry the virus (or some test says they ahve it) is 
>irresponsible.
>
>
>On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Lee Evans wrote:
>
>> I have had a lot of success with adult cats who threw off the virus in 
>> about 2 months and tested negative from then on. For kittens, they may 
>> or may not have been actually positive. Since their immune system is 
>> not fully developed, they might not throw off the virus as soon as 
>> adults. Too bad about the idiot vet who gave the adopters such 
>> ridiculously incorrect advice. Keep the kittens for another 4 weeks, 
>> then re-test. You really should find them a home with a person who 
>> understands that a positive test does not mean the kitten should be 
>> killed. If they are still looking and feeling well, let them live. A 
>> home with no other cats or with cat-friendly dog is the best for this 
>> type of kitten.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> ________
>>> From: Betheny Laubenthal 
>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:04 
>>> PM
>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What's the earliest that testing using a SNAP test for FeLV/FIV can 
>>> be done so that it is accurate?  I know that if it is done early on, 
>>> it can be inaccurate.
>>> The reason I asked is that we adopted out a 10 week old kitten July 
>>> 16.  We did not test.  I don't like testing before 16 weeks.  We 
>>> pulled the kitten and her sister from another state.  Mom was in a 
>>> high kill shelter.  She was PTS before we could rescue her.  The rest 
>>> of the litter was PTS.  Miles and Journey were the only ones left.
>>> Today, the kitten (Miles) tested positive for leukemia and was PTS 
>>> (the ill informed vet used scare tactics on the owner and made the 
>>> owner think that her dogs could get it).  I was called after the 
>>> fact.
>>> What is proper testing protocol?  Vaccination protcol?  I use a 4 way 
>>> with feline leukemia, killed virus.
>>> --Beth
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing

[trustinhim13]

I agree with Lee completely. It angers me that someone can get through 
Vet school and still not be knowledgable about this disease. I rescued a 
male cat, two years old, and only then learned he was FelV+ after he was 
neutered. He has thrown off the virus twice. He is over 6 now. mingels 
with my other rescues and no one has gotten sick. Killing kittens 
becasue they carry the virus (or some test says they ahve it) is 
irresponsible.



On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Lee Evans wrote:

I have had a lot of success with adult cats who threw off the virus in 
about 2 months and tested negative from then on. For kittens, they may 
or may not have been actually positive. Since their immune system is 
not fully developed, they might not throw off the virus as soon as 
adults. Too bad about the idiot vet who gave the adopters such 
ridiculously incorrect advice. Keep the kittens for another 4 weeks, 
then re-test. You really should find them a home with a person who 
understands that a positive test does not mean the kitten should be 
killed. If they are still looking and feeling well, let them live. A 
home with no other cats or with cat-friendly dog is the best for this 
type of kitten.








From: Betheny Laubenthal 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:04 
PM

Subject: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing



What's the earliest that testing using a SNAP test for FeLV/FIV can 
be done so that it is accurate?  I know that if it is done early on, 
it can be inaccurate.
The reason I asked is that we adopted out a 10 week old kitten July 
16.  We did not test.  I don't like testing before 16 weeks.  We 
pulled the kitten and her sister from another state.  Mom was in a 
high kill shelter.  She was PTS before we could rescue her.  The rest 
of the litter was PTS.  Miles and Journey were the only ones left.
Today, the kitten (Miles) tested positive for leukemia and was PTS 
(the ill informed vet used scare tactics on the owner and made the 
owner think that her dogs could get it).  I was called after the 
fact.
What is proper testing protocol?  Vaccination protcol?  I use a 4 way 
with feline leukemia, killed virus.

--Beth
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing

[Lee Evans]

Hi Shelley - I'm not sure as to when they were exposed. These were cats rescued 
from different places at different times. One, a male who I have had not for 
about 6 to 7 years, was rescued when he was not neutered, around age 2, street 
cat, but tame. Since I was going to get him adopted after neutering, I had him 
tested before I took him into my own house. He tested negative for FIV but 
positive for FeLv. I tested again at another vet. Still positive, but that vet 
suggested that I keep him for two months and then re-test. This guy was on top 
of the latest literature in vet medicine. So I did so, took Moses (cats name) 
back and he had turned negative. Not to say that I did not believe the test but 
too, Moses for yet another test and he was again negative. He's still with me.

Bunny (Buns for short) is a female, abandoned at an apartment complex 
(notorious for abandoned, feral and stray cats). She was less than a year old 
when she was brought to me on Easter Morning. Thus her name, Bunny. I put her 
in a separate room, then took to vet to be tested. She tested positive for 
FeLv. Kept her isolated, did not spay, re-tested in about 3 months, she tested 
negative. Tested again to be sure. Negative again so got her spayed. 

However, my luck did not hold very well. Recently had a rescued kitten brought 
to me. I took Taffy to a local Humane Society in Bulverde Texas. They tested 
her prior to putting her up for adoption. When they tested her, she tested 
positive for FeLv. I took her back, found her a foster home with a wonderful 
foster mom, who kept her isolated for 3 months but Taffy still tested positive 
at the end of the isolation period. Fortunately, Foster mom loves her and 
although Taffy doesn't mix in to the community of 7 cats that Foster Mom has, 
Taffy lives with Foster Mom's dog in a spare bedroom and gets to socialize with 
the cats except during feeding time. Taffy is perfectly happy with the 
arrangement. So is the dog.

The adults probably contracted FeLv during mating behavior. I suspect that 
Taffy got it from her birth mother but was not able to fight off the virus as a 
kitten because she did not have very good care and ended up as a little street 
stray.





>
> From: Shelley Theye 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:49 AM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
> 
>
>Lee,
>
>Can you explain more about the 2 month period for the adults that you have 
>that threw off the virus?
>Do you know when they were first exposed, in other words could they have had 
>the FeLV virus for more than 2 months
>before they ever were tested?
>
>Shelley
>
>
>
>On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Lee Evans wrote:
>
>> I have had a lot of success with adult cats who threw off the virus in about 
>> 2 months and tested negative from then on. For kittens, they may or may not 
>> have been actually positive. Since their immune system is not fully 
>> developed, they might not throw off the virus as soon as adults. Too bad 
>> about the idiot vet who gave the adopters such ridiculously incorrect 
>> advice. Keep the kittens for another 4 weeks, then re-test. You really 
>> should find them a home with a person who understands that a positive test 
>> does not mean the kitten should be killed. If they are still looking and 
>> feeling well, let them live. A home with no other cats or with cat-friendly 
>> dog is the best for this type of kitten.
>> 
>> 
>> From: Betheny Laubenthal 
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:04 PM
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
>> 
>> What's the earliest that testing using a SNAP test for FeLV/FIV can be done 
>> so that it is accurate?  I know that if it is done early on, it can be 
>> inaccurate.
>> The reason I asked is that we adopted out a 10 week old kitten July 16.  We 
>> did not test.  I don't like testing before 16 weeks.  We pulled the kitten 
>> and her sister from another state.  Mom was in a high kill shelter.  She was 
>> PTS before we could rescue her.  The rest of the litter was PTS.  Miles and 
>> Journey were the only ones left.
>> Today, the kitten (Miles) tested positive for leukemia and was PTS (the ill 
>> informed vet used scare tactics on the owner and made the owner think that 
>> her dogs could get it).  I was called after the fact.
>> What is proper testing protocol?  Vaccination protcol?  I use a 4 way with 
>> feline leukemia, killed virus.
>> --Beth
>> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing

[Shelley Theye]

Lee,

Can you explain more about the 2 month period for the adults that you have that 
threw off the virus?
Do you know when they were first exposed, in other words could they have had 
the FeLV virus for more than 2 months
before they ever were tested?

Shelley



On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Lee Evans wrote:

> I have had a lot of success with adult cats who threw off the virus in about 
> 2 months and tested negative from then on. For kittens, they may or may not 
> have been actually positive. Since their immune system is not fully 
> developed, they might not throw off the virus as soon as adults. Too bad 
> about the idiot vet who gave the adopters such ridiculously incorrect advice. 
> Keep the kittens for another 4 weeks, then re-test. You really should find 
> them a home with a person who understands that a positive test does not mean 
> the kitten should be killed. If they are still looking and feeling well, let 
> them live. A home with no other cats or with cat-friendly dog is the best for 
> this type of kitten.
> 
> 
> From: Betheny Laubenthal 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:04 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
> 
> What's the earliest that testing using a SNAP test for FeLV/FIV can be done 
> so that it is accurate?  I know that if it is done early on, it can be 
> inaccurate.
> The reason I asked is that we adopted out a 10 week old kitten July 16.  We 
> did not test.  I don't like testing before 16 weeks.  We pulled the kitten 
> and her sister from another state.  Mom was in a high kill shelter.  She was 
> PTS before we could rescue her.  The rest of the litter was PTS.  Miles and 
> Journey were the only ones left.
> Today, the kitten (Miles) tested positive for leukemia and was PTS (the ill 
> informed vet used scare tactics on the owner and made the owner think that 
> her dogs could get it).  I was called after the fact.
> What is proper testing protocol?  Vaccination protcol?  I use a 4 way with 
> feline leukemia, killed virus.
> --Beth
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing

[Lee Evans]

I have had a lot of success with adult cats who threw off the virus in about 2 
months and tested negative from then on. For kittens, they may or may not have 
been actually positive. Since their immune system is not fully developed, they 
might not throw off the virus as soon as adults. Too bad about the idiot vet 
who gave the adopters such ridiculously incorrect advice. Keep the kittens for 
another 4 weeks, then re-test. You really should find them a home with a person 
who understands that a positive test does not mean the kitten should be killed. 
If they are still looking and feeling well, let them live. A home with no other 
cats or with cat-friendly dog is the best for this type of kitten.





>
> From: Betheny Laubenthal 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:04 PM
>Subject: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
> 
>
>
>What's the earliest that testing using a SNAP test for FeLV/FIV can be done so 
>that it is accurate?  I know that if it is done early on, it can be inaccurate.
>The reason I asked is that we adopted out a 10 week old kitten July 16.  We 
>did not test.  I don't like testing before 16 weeks.  We pulled the kitten and 
>her sister from another state.  Mom was in a high kill shelter.  She was PTS 
>before we could rescue her.  The rest of the litter was PTS.  Miles and 
>Journey were the only ones left.
>Today, the kitten (Miles) tested positive for leukemia and was PTS (the ill 
>informed vet used scare tactics on the owner and made the owner think that her 
>dogs could get it).  I was called after the fact.
>What is proper testing protocol?  Vaccination protcol?  I use a 4 way with 
>feline leukemia, killed virus.
>--Beth
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>
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[Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing

[Betheny Laubenthal]

What's the earliest that testing using a SNAP test for FeLV/FIV can be done
so that it is accurate?  I know that if it is done early on, it can be
inaccurate.
The reason I asked is that we adopted out a 10 week old kitten July 16.  We
did not test.  I don't like testing before 16 weeks.  We pulled the kitten
and her sister from another state.  Mom was in a high kill shelter.  She
was PTS before we could rescue her.  The rest of the litter was PTS.  Miles
and Journey were the only ones left.
Today, the kitten (Miles) tested positive for leukemia and was PTS (the ill
informed vet used scare tactics on the owner and made the owner think that
her dogs could get it).  I was called after the fact.
What is proper testing protocol?  Vaccination protcol?  I use a 4 way with
feline leukemia, killed virus.
--Beth
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Re: FIV Testing...

[Gina WN]

That's true MC.  My Tigger and Taylor  (10 day old kittens at the time) tested 
positive for FIV and we assumed they were positive.  This was back in 1992 when 
there was less knowledge about FIV and maternal antibodies.  Years later when I 
had them retested because a vet was curious about their status, they were 
negative and remain negative to this day.  
   
  There is no good reason to PTS a healthy FIV+ cat in my opinion, let alone a 
kitten whose status might change.  My Buddy lived to be 18 years old with FIV 
and never passed it to my other cats.  He lived a long relative healthy life 
except for some dental issues around the FIV.  
   
  I hope this kitten gets a chance.
   
  Gina
  

MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  there is virtually no such thing as a positive kitten--unlike the FeLV virus, 
kittens will test positive for FIV based on MOM'S antibodies, and will continue 
to test positive until at LEAST six months old when mom's antibodies pass from 
their systems. 

can someone please go read one of the articles at FELV+, FIV+, FIP and send the 
appropriate one? i do not have the time to do so -- or do a web search for 
"Maternal Antibodies in FIV". every vet should KNOW this. 

MC


  On 5/18/07, Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:At 09:37 AM 5/18/2007, you 
wrote:

Tell them that Vets no longer put down FIV positive cats. Most of us mix our 
pos and neg catsClose to impossible to catch...the kitten may not be 
positive, You need to get a place for this baby ASAP..
Kelly



A bit off topic but I know folks here know so  much about FIV & FELV..  
Someone sent me a post about a 7 week old F tortie mix sitting at a vet office 
in Baton Rouge, LA who is supposed to be put down tonight or tomorrow because 
she tests pos for FIV…  Apparently the vet & the staff are clutching at doing 
this---my question is 
   Should I ask what test was done­is it same setup as for FELV (Elissa 
then confirming IFA)

  
  Isn't it early to determine whether cat is really FIV pos?  
I'm afraid I can't provide a home for this little one but maybe a little info 
could prolong her life until someone is found…
 
Christiane Biagi
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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RE: RE: FIV Testing...

[Chris]

This was a cross post from someone I work.  She had gone to her vets office
& they told her about the kitten.  I believe it is somehwere in Baton Rouge,
LA.  I just sent her off all the info and sent her some links including
studies that document that normally, FIV not transmitted thru birth. I know
she'll look at all of it and talk to her vet & hopefully she'll be able to
have them save this kitten.  

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 1:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: RE: FIV Testing...

 

Chris,
I am so hoping that you can rescue this kitten.  For the kitten's sake of
course, but also to help educate this vet's office.  They need to see that
an fiv test in such a little baby is not indicative of having the disease.
Hell, an fiv test in a cat that truly has fiv is not a death sentence!  From
all I've learned, from living with an fiv boy and hearing about so so many
others, it's nothing to be afraid of at all.  Please let us know what
happens to this little angel.  You have an opportunity to educate these
people and that little darling is staking her life on it.  (Sorry about the
pressure).  Where is she?
Nina

Chris wrote: 

Many many thanks.  I will go dig the article out and send it along.

 

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MaryChristine
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 12:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: FIV Testing...

 

there is virtually no such thing as a positive kitten--unlike the FeLV
virus, kittens will test positive for FIV based on MOM'S antibodies, and
will continue to test positive until at LEAST six months old when mom's
antibodies pass from their systems. 

can someone please go read one of the articles at FELV+, FIV+, FIP
<http://ucat.us/FELVFIVFIP.html>  and send the appropriate one? i do not
have the time to do so -- or do a web search for "Maternal Antibodies in
FIV". every vet should KNOW this. 

MC

On 5/18/07, Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

At 09:37 AM 5/18/2007, you wrote:

Tell them that Vets no longer put down FIV positive cats. Most of us mix our
pos and neg catsClose to impossible to catch...the kitten may not be
positive, You need to get a place for this baby ASAP..
Kelly





A bit off topic but I know folks here know so  much about FIV & FELV..
Someone sent me a post about a 7 week old F tortie mix sitting at a vet
office in Baton Rouge, LA who is supposed to be put down tonight or tomorrow
because she tests pos for FIV.  Apparently the vet & the staff are clutching
at doing this---my question is 

* Should I ask what test was done-is it same setup as for FELV
(Elissa then confirming IFA)

*  Isn't it early to determine whether cat is really FIV pos?  
I'm afraid I can't provide a home for this little one but maybe a little
info could prolong her life until someone is found.
 
Christiane Biagi
914-632-4672
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Re: RE: FIV Testing...

[Nina]

Chris,
I am so hoping that you can rescue this kitten.  For the kitten's sake 
of course, but also to help educate this vet's office.  They need to see 
that an fiv test in such a little baby is not indicative of having the 
disease.  Hell, an fiv test in a cat that truly has fiv is not a death 
sentence!  From all I've learned, from living with an fiv boy and 
hearing about so so many others, it's nothing to be afraid of at all.  
Please let us know what happens to this little angel.  You have an 
opportunity to educate these people and that little darling is staking 
her life on it.  (Sorry about the pressure).  Where is she?

Nina

Chris wrote:


Many many thanks...  I will go dig the article out and send it along...

 


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *MaryChristine

*Sent:* Friday, May 18, 2007 12:50 PM
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* Re: FIV Testing...

 

there is virtually no such thing as a positive kitten--unlike the FeLV 
virus, kittens will test positive for FIV based on MOM'S antibodies, 
and will continue to test positive until at LEAST six months old when 
mom's antibodies pass from their systems.


can someone please go read one of the articles at FELV+, FIV+, FIP 
<http://ucat.us/FELVFIVFIP.html> and send the appropriate one? i do 
not have the time to do so -- or do a web search for "Maternal 
Antibodies in FIV". every vet should KNOW this.


MC

On 5/18/07, *Kelly L* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> 
wrote:


At 09:37 AM 5/18/2007, you wrote:

Tell them that Vets no longer put down FIV positive cats. Most of us 
mix our pos and neg catsClose to impossible to catch...the kitten 
may not be positive, You need to get a place for this baby ASAP..

Kelly




A bit off topic but I know folks here know so  much about FIV & 
FELV..  Someone sent me a post about a 7 week old F tortie mix sitting 
at a vet office in Baton Rouge, LA who is supposed to be put down 
tonight or tomorrow because she tests pos for FIV...  Apparently the 
vet & the staff are clutching at doing this---my question is


· Should I ask what test was done­is it same setup as for FELV 
(Elissa then confirming IFA)


·  Isn't it early to determine whether cat is really FIV pos?  
I'm afraid I can't provide a home for this little one but maybe a 
little info could prolong her life until someone is found...
 
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RE: FIV Testing...

[Chris]

Many many thanks.  I will go dig the article out and send it along.

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MaryChristine
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 12:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: FIV Testing...

 

there is virtually no such thing as a positive kitten--unlike the FeLV
virus, kittens will test positive for FIV based on MOM'S antibodies, and
will continue to test positive until at LEAST six months old when mom's
antibodies pass from their systems. 

can someone please go read one of the articles at FELV+, FIV+, FIP
<http://ucat.us/FELVFIVFIP.html>  and send the appropriate one? i do not
have the time to do so -- or do a web search for "Maternal Antibodies in
FIV". every vet should KNOW this. 

MC



On 5/18/07, Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

At 09:37 AM 5/18/2007, you wrote:

Tell them that Vets no longer put down FIV positive cats. Most of us mix our
pos and neg catsClose to impossible to catch...the kitten may not be
positive, You need to get a place for this baby ASAP..
Kelly






A bit off topic but I know folks here know so  much about FIV & FELV..
Someone sent me a post about a 7 week old F tortie mix sitting at a vet
office in Baton Rouge, LA who is supposed to be put down tonight or tomorrow
because she tests pos for FIV.  Apparently the vet & the staff are clutching
at doing this---my question is 

* Should I ask what test was done-is it same setup as for FELV
(Elissa then confirming IFA)

*  Isn't it early to determine whether cat is really FIV pos?  
I'm afraid I can't provide a home for this little one but maybe a little
info could prolong her life until someone is found.
 
Christiane Biagi
914-632-4672
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART)
www.findkpets.org
 
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Re: FIV Testing...

[MaryChristine]

there is virtually no such thing as a positive kitten--unlike the FeLV
virus, kittens will test positive for FIV based on MOM'S antibodies, and
will continue to test positive until at LEAST six months old when mom's
antibodies pass from their systems.

can someone please go read one of the articles at FELV+, FIV+,
FIPand send the appropriate one? i do
not have the time to do so -- or do a web
search for "Maternal Antibodies in FIV". every vet should KNOW this.

MC


On 5/18/07, Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 At 09:37 AM 5/18/2007, you wrote:

Tell them that Vets no longer put down FIV positive cats. Most of us mix
our pos and neg catsClose to impossible to catch...the kitten may not be
positive, You need to get a place for this baby ASAP..
Kelly



A bit off topic but I know folks here know so  much about FIV &
FELV..  Someone sent me a post about a 7 week old F tortie mix sitting at a
vet office in Baton Rouge, LA who is supposed to be put down tonight or
tomorrow because she tests pos for FIV…  Apparently the vet & the staff are
clutching at doing this---my question is

   - Should I ask what test was done­is it same setup as for FELV
   (Elissa then confirming IFA)

Isn't it early to determine whether cat is really FIV pos?
I'm afraid I can't provide a home for this little one but maybe a little
info could prolong her life until someone is found…

*Christiane Biagi
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: FIV Testing...

[Kelly L]

At 09:37 AM 5/18/2007, you wrote:

Tell them that Vets no longer put down FIV 
positive cats. Most of us mix our pos and neg 
catsClose to impossible to catch...the kitten 
may not be positive, You need to get a place for this baby ASAP..

Kelly



A bit off topic but I know folks here know 
so  much about FIV & FELV..  Someone sent me 
a post about a 7 week old F tortie mix sitting 
at a vet office in Baton Rouge, LA who is 
supposed to be put down tonight or tomorrow 
because she tests pos for FIV…  Apparently the 
vet & the staff are clutching at doing this---my question is
   * Should I ask what test was done­is it same 
setup as for FELV (Elissa then confirming IFA)

   * Isn’t it early to determine whether cat is really FIV pos?

I’m afraid I can’t provide a home for this 
little one but maybe a little info could prolong 
her life until someone is found…


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FIV Testing...

[Chris]

A bit off topic but I know folks here know so  much about FIV & FELV..
Someone sent me a post about a 7 week old F tortie mix sitting at a vet
office in Baton Rouge, LA who is supposed to be put down tonight or tomorrow
because she tests pos for FIV.  Apparently the vet & the staff are clutching
at doing this---my question is

*   Should I ask what test was done-is it same setup as for FELV (Elissa
then confirming IFA)
*   Isn't it early to determine whether cat is really FIV pos?

 

I'm afraid I can't provide a home for this little one but maybe a little
info could prolong her life until someone is found.

 

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Re: FIV testing

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

That website comes and goes on a whim... if it's not working, try back
later, it comes back after a while.

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us

The easy way out has a bad reputation.
Why would anyone take the hard way out?
"The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the
window."

Quote by: Les U. Knight

Re: FIV testing

[TenHouseCats]

that's so weird, because it wouldn't open for me yesterday!

On 1/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Here's the info as I posted it to the FIV group:


http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/ccah/Homesite%20Images/Diagnostic%20PCR%20Price%20Schedule.doc

(you have to scroll down quite some way to the section titled FIV DNA
Testing
Information.)

FIV DNA Testing Information

Lucy Whittier Molecular and Diagnostic Core Facility   Phone: 530.752-7991
2108 Tupper Hall   Fax: 530.754-6862
University of California
Department of Medicine & EpidemiologyEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
School of Veterinary Medicine
Davis, CA  95616

Dear Clinician,

Thank you for requesting information about our FIV DNA test.  At this time
we require
2 mL of whole blood in an EDTA (Lavender Top) Vacutainer tube, along with
information
outlined below.  The test is offered at no charge.  The PCR assay detects
the viral
genome directly and therefore differentiates infected from vaccinated
animals.
Results will be faxed to you within 48 hours upon receipt of the sample
except for
Friday deliveries, which will be faxed 72 hours upon receipt.

Please include the following information with each sample:

1. Veterinarians name
2. Your complete mailing address
3. Your phone and fax number
4. Number of samples sent
5. Sample type
6. Species of animal
7. Type of test requested

Shipping Instructions:

1. All Shipments must comply with the International Air Transport
Association (IATA)
Dangerous Goods regulations.   Please consult the IATA website
http://www.iata.org or
the FedEx Dangerous Goods/Hazardous Materials Hotline at 800.463.3339(press 81) 
for
further information.
2. Send on ice in a Styrofoam container (no  ice needed for fixed tissues)
3. Ship overnight (Do not ship on Friday)
4. Use FedEx or other express courier
5. Federal Tax Identification Number 946036494

Shipping Address:

Christian Leutenegger
2108 Tupper Hall
Vet Med: Medicine & Epid.
Davis, CA 95616
Tel: 530.752.7991


The testing itself is free, but you have to pay for the vet to draw the
blood and the
overnight shipping (not cheap).

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us

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Why would anyone take the hard way out?
"The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the
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Re: FIV testing

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Here's the info as I posted it to the FIV group:

http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/ccah/Homesite%20Images/Diagnostic%20PCR%20Price%20Schedule.doc

(you have to scroll down quite some way to the section titled FIV DNA Testing
Information.)

FIV DNA Testing Information

Lucy Whittier Molecular and Diagnostic Core Facility   Phone: 530.752-7991
2108 Tupper Hall   Fax: 530.754-6862
University of California
Department of Medicine & EpidemiologyEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
School of Veterinary Medicine
Davis, CA  95616

Dear Clinician,

Thank you for requesting information about our FIV DNA test.  At this time we 
require
2 mL of whole blood in an EDTA (Lavender Top) Vacutainer tube, along with 
information
outlined below.  The test is offered at no charge.  The PCR assay detects the 
viral
genome directly and therefore differentiates infected from vaccinated animals.
Results will be faxed to you within 48 hours upon receipt of the sample except 
for
Friday deliveries, which will be faxed 72 hours upon receipt.

Please include the following information with each sample:

1. Veterinarians name
2. Your complete mailing address
3. Your phone and fax number
4. Number of samples sent
5. Sample type
6. Species of animal
7. Type of test requested

Shipping Instructions:

1. All Shipments must comply with the International Air Transport Association 
(IATA)
Dangerous Goods regulations.   Please consult the IATA website 
http://www.iata.org or
the FedEx Dangerous Goods/Hazardous Materials Hotline at 800.463.3339 (press 
81) for
further information.
2. Send on ice in a Styrofoam container (no  ice needed for fixed tissues)
3. Ship overnight (Do not ship on Friday)
4. Use FedEx or other express courier
5. Federal Tax Identification Number 946036494

Shipping Address:

Christian Leutenegger
2108 Tupper Hall
Vet Med: Medicine & Epid.
Davis, CA 95616
Tel: 530.752.7991


The testing itself is free, but you have to pay for the vet to draw the blood 
and the
overnight shipping (not cheap).

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us

The easy way out has a bad reputation.
Why would anyone take the hard way out?
"The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the 
window."

Quote by: Les U. Knight

Re: FIV testing

[Nina]

Thanks Kerry.  I assume the fiv dna testing would be beneficial if you 
have a cat that might have been vaccinated and you want to make sure the 
regular snap test isn't showing pos because of that?  Do you have to 
bring the cat in or can you just send them blood samples?  I'm going to 
cc this to the felv.  There may be people interested in this info.

Nina

Kerry Roach wrote:

Hi Nina,
I forgot to mention last night about the free FIV dna testing at Univ 
of CA/ Davis..I don't know if it was posted at the felv group or 
not..I got it right before Bandy got sick at the FIV group..
I haven't been able to email it though..I guess it is some sort of 
security thing with that group.  I don't know..I will try to print it 
out and send you the info if you haven't seen it.
I'm not too good with all this computer stuff so I just try to figure 
things out the best I can..If I have to type it all, I will do that..
Just thought you might be interested in that since you have a FIV 
kitty..It is free, too..and you get the results really fast..

Kerry

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