OT: Guage of needles for subQ???
Hey guys, I have a box of Terumo needles, 18 guage. The needles seem so big when I give subQ to my CRF/hyperT kitty, and she's fairly uncomfortable when I insert it. Can subQ be done well with a smaller needle? If so, what size? Thanks, Wendy Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT: Guage of needles for subQ???
I use the 19 and sometimes 20 gauge,,it takes a bit longer that's all. Depends upon the cat. if the cat is hard to restrain youwant it in quicker, My BigD waits at the chair for his fluids, I used 18 in the past. Also depends upon how often. Mine is a CRF cat so it is a lifetime thing, Hey guys, I have a box of Terumo needles, 18 guage. The needles seem so big when I give subQ to my CRF/hyperT kitty, and she's fairly uncomfortable when I insert it. Can subQ be done well with a smaller needle? If so, what size? Thanks, Wendy Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.18/554 - Release Date: 11/27/2006
Re: OT: Guage of needles for subQ???
The purpose of the large needle is so the fluids flow quickly. Are you getting it into the area in the nape of the neck, the skin there, in one smooth motion? I am told that area has limited nerve endings. Also, are you warming the fluids before giving them? Placing the bag in a bowl of warm water before administering, so that the fluids are closer to a cat's body temperature, will help a lot. You can go one size smaller but it will make the processw take longer. wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, I have a box of Terumo needles, 18 guage. The needles seem so big when I give subQ to my CRF/hyperT kitty, and she's fairly uncomfortable when I insert it. Can subQ be done well with a smaller needle? If so, what size? Thanks, Wendy Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT: Guage of needles for subQ???
Hi Wendy, Fred get subqs daily (CRF), I use the terumo 20 x 1 gauge UTW (ultra thin wall). He doesn't mind them too much and they are a lot smaller than the 18 gauge which Fred objected to very loudly and with teeth!! I have noticed on occasion I would have a very hard time getting them in and found that sometimes they have a little teenye, tiny bump, almost imperceptable but enough to make them not go in, so now I check each one before I use it. I just take my finger nail and scrape up from the bottom of the hole (on th beveled side) to the tip, BUT I do it on the unbeveled side. That little bump when it's there can really make it impossible to get it in, other wise they are nice, Fred DOES NOT like the monoject brand of the same size and they are a bit bigger and seems like not quite as sharp. PS. It does take a little longer but with Fred he doesn't mind once we start, it's the poke he doesn't like so much and the smaller the needle the better!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: OT: Guage of needles for subQ???
Since I normally work with, at best, semi-tame adults, I want it quicker... Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use the 19 and sometimes 20 gauge,,it takes a bit longer that's all. Depends upon the cat. if the cat is hard to restrain youwant it in quicker, My BigD waits at the chair for his fluids, I used 18 in the past. Also depends upon how often. Mine is a CRF cat so it is a lifetime thing, Hey guys, I have a box of Terumo needles, 18 guage. The needles seem so big when I give subQ to my CRF/hyperT kitty, and she's fairly uncomfortable when I insert it. Can subQ be done well with a smaller needle? If so, what size? Thanks, Wendy Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.18/554 - Release Date: 11/27/2006
Re: OT: Guage of needles for subQ???
Thanks guys. I am going to go ahead and order the twenty, since Julie is pretty tame. She just doesn't like it when the needle goes in. She's pretty good while getting the fluids, and I think she realizes now that they make her feel good when I'm done (cuz she can go poop). If only it were that easy with us! lol. :) Wendy -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index
Re: Guage of needles for subQ???
Yes, sub-q can be done with smaller needles, keep in mind that the smaller the needle, the LONGER it will take to get the same amount of fluids in, if you go too small, you may have to sit there and squeeze the bag the entire time (and it could take 30 minutes of longer). There has been some studies done that suggest that keeping the needles refrigerated or frozen before use lessens the pain. Start by going one size smaller, and go down until she seems to accept it better, but stay as large as you can to keep the flow moving quickly. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost SpayNeuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
