Re: Impossible

2005-11-29 Thread Barb Moermond
What I do with Smoky, a now nearly 19 pound gorgeous boy who HATES being held and/or picked up, is that we are either on the bed or the floor and I'm sitting on my butt and have him positioned between my thighs so my legs are holding him, that way I have both hands free - when I can catch him (the boy is scary smart) it works like a charm. I've always put the pill or powder into a gel cap and use a pill shooter to get the cap back in his throat and then I have a squirt bottle and gently give him a bit of water to help wash it down. THEN, the most important part, I give him a treat! For a medicine you have to give for more than a day or two - instituting treat time immediately post pilling can be the only way to have kitty tolerate the pilling itself.Ninja was a dream to medicate, which was fortunate considering she got her meds twice a day. I would crush up her pills and put them in some baby food - watered down a bit and
 NO ONION - and use a syringe and then she got a treat of the baby food. When I started to get her meds ready, she came and sat by her treat dish watching me. All I had to do was lean over, gently hold her head with one hand, syringe with the other and that was that.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  You sound like you had him on the counter, trying to hold him with just your arms.You really have to "sit" on him. Get his body between your legs as you kneel overhim, lock your feet together so he can't back out from under you, push his body downwith your crotch, and if all else fails, Scruff him by grabbing a big handful of neckskin and pulling it as tight as you can, and try getting the pill in with the otherhand. Realistically, you probably need someone to help you by holding his front legsreally well. If you have a strong helper that
 is able to hold the front legs, it wontbe near as hard to get the pill in his mouth. I have one that I have to have helpwith sometimes (luckily I have a live-in boyfriend). Cats are REALLY strong, and ifyou don't "have your bluff in" over them, there's really not much you can do tocontrol them without hurting them. My cats don't fight me so much because they knowbetter, one sharp "be still and take it like a man you sorry little sh*t!" and theyusually surrender to my prodding and plucking. Rescue cats are another story, some ofthem I don't even try to pill (I have one I can't even touch, so I know trying topill him would be impossible).Sometimes the fight is just NOT worth it. If it's going to be a battle, I just boardthem at the vet's office for the course of treatment, and pay to let the vet techsdeal with them.Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt a cat from UCAT
 rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.htmlAdopt a FIV+ cat:http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/Adopt a FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who mustlive on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until sheearns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send themto!~Does your cat have chronic diarrhea that does not respond to treatment, or has yourcat been loosely diagnosed as IBD?Have you tested for Tritrichomonosis? The test is new, the new drug makes it curable.Ask me today how you can test for Trich!-- No virus found
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Re: Impossible

2005-11-29 Thread TenHouseCats
i've heard rumors about cats who are easy to medicate--i put those
stories in the same category as alien-abduction

On 11/29/05, Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What I do with Smoky, a now nearly 19 pound gorgeous boy who HATES being
 held and/or picked up, is that we are either on the bed or the floor and I'm
 sitting on my butt and have him positioned between my thighs so my legs are
 holding him, that way I have both hands free - when I can catch him (the boy
 is scary smart) it works like a charm.  I've always put the pill or powder
 into a gel cap and use a pill shooter to get the cap back in his throat and
 then I have a squirt bottle and gently give him a bit of water to help wash
 it down.  THEN, the most important part, I give him a treat!  For a medicine
 you have to give for more than a day or two - instituting treat time
 immediately post pilling can be the only way to have kitty tolerate the
 pilling itself.

 Ninja was a dream to medicate, which was fortunate considering she got her
 meds twice a day.  I would crush up her pills and put them in some baby food
 - watered down a bit and NO ONION - and use a syringe and then she got a
 treat of the baby food.  When I started to get her meds ready, she came and
 sat by her treat dish watching me.  All I had to do was lean over, gently
 hold her head with one hand, syringe with the other and that was that.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You sound like you had him on the counter, trying to hold him with just your
 arms.
 You really have to sit on him. Get his body between your legs as you kneel
 over
 him, lock your feet together so he can't back out from under you, push his
 body down
 with your crotch, and if all else fails, Scruff him by grabbing a big
 handful of neck
 skin and pulling it as tight as you can, and try getting the pill in with
 the other
 hand. Realistically, you probably need someone to help you by holding his
 front legs
 really well. If you have a strong helper that is able to hold the front
 legs, it wont
 be near as hard to get the pill in his mouth. I have one that I have to have
 help
 with sometimes (luckily I have a live-in boyfriend). Cats are REALLY strong,
 and if
 you don't have your bluff in over them, there's really not much you can do
 to
 control them without hurting them. My cats don't fight me so much because
 they know
 better, one sharp be still and take it like a man you sorry little sh*t!
 and they
 usually surrender to my prodding and plucking. Rescue cats are another
 story, some of
 them I don't even try to pill (I have one I can't even touch, so I know
 trying to
 pill him would be impossible).

 Sometimes the fight is just NOT worth it. If it's going to be a battle, I
 just board
 them at the vet's office for the course of treatment, and pay to let the vet
 techs
 deal with them.

 Jenn
 http://ucat.us
 http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
 Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue:
 http://ucat.us/adopt.html
 Adopt a FIV+ cat:
 http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/
 Adopt a FELV+ cat:
 http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html
 ~~~
 I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat
 who must
 live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.
 Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up
 until she
 earns a free can of formula!
 PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!
 If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to
 send them
 to!
 ~
 Does your cat have chronic diarrhea that does not respond to treatment, or
 has your
 cat been loosely diagnosed as IBD?
 Have you tested for Tritrichomonosis? The test is new, the new drug makes it
 curable.
 Ask me today how you can test for Trich!



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Re: Impossible

2005-11-29 Thread Susan Loesch
I actually have a few of those "easy to medicate" kitties, but the ones that stay on my mind are the two I have who would rather let me break their neck trying to get a pill...or even liquid...down them than take it willingly! And of course they are the ones who need meds most often!TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  i've heard rumors about cats who are easy to medicate--i put thosestories in the same category as alien-abductionOn 11/29/05, Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: What I do with Smoky, a now nearly 19 pound gorgeous boy who HATES being held and/or picked up, is that we are either on the bed or the floor and I'm sitting on my butt and have him positioned between my thighs so my legs are holding him, that way I have both hands free - when I can catch him (the boy is
 scary smart) it works like a charm. I've always put the pill or powder into a gel cap and use a pill shooter to get the cap back in his throat and then I have a squirt bottle and gently give him a bit of water to help wash it down. THEN, the most important part, I give him a treat! For a medicine you have to give for more than a day or two - instituting treat time immediately post pilling can be the only way to have kitty tolerate the pilling itself. Ninja was a dream to medicate, which was fortunate considering she got her meds twice a day. I would crush up her pills and put them in some baby food - watered down a bit and NO ONION - and use a syringe and then she got a treat of the baby food. When I started to get her meds ready, she came and sat by her treat dish watching me. All I had to do was lean over, gently hold her head with one hand, syringe with the other and that was
 that. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You sound like you had him on the counter, trying to hold him with just your arms. You really have to "sit" on him. Get his body between your legs as you kneel over him, lock your feet together so he can't back out from under you, push his body down with your crotch, and if all else fails, Scruff him by grabbing a big handful of neck skin and pulling it as tight as you can, and try getting the pill in with the other hand. Realistically, you probably need someone to help you by holding his front legs really well. If you have a strong helper that is able to hold the front legs, it wont be near as hard to get the pill in his mouth. I have one that I have to have help with sometimes (luckily I have a live-in boyfriend). Cats are REALLY strong, and if you don't "have your bluff in" over them,
 there's really not much you can do to control them without hurting them. My cats don't fight me so much because they know better, one sharp "be still and take it like a man you sorry little sh*t!" and they usually surrender to my prodding and plucking. Rescue cats are another story, some of them I don't even try to pill (I have one I can't even touch, so I know trying to pill him would be impossible). Sometimes the fight is just NOT worth it. If it's going to be a battle, I just board them at the vet's office for the course of treatment, and pay to let the vet techs deal with them. Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/ Adopt a FELV+ cat:
 http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to! ~ Does your cat have chronic diarrhea that does not respond to treatment, or has your cat been loosely diagnosed as IBD? Have you tested for Tritrichomonosis? The test is new, the new drug makes it curable. Ask me today how you can test for Trich! -- No
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Re: Impossible

2005-11-29 Thread Barb Moermond
MOL, I will also add that Ninja was not a normal healthy cat. She had been abused and was imprinted on humans, so her responses weren't always typical feline.TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  i've heard rumors about cats who are easy to medicate--i put thosestories in the same category as alien-abductionOn 11/29/05, Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: What I do with Smoky, a now nearly 19 pound gorgeous boy who HATES being held and/or picked up, is that we are either on the bed or the floor and I'm sitting on my butt and have him positioned between my thighs so my legs are holding him, that way I have both hands free - when I can catch him (the boy is scary smart) it works like a charm. I've always put the pill or powder into a gel cap and use a pill
 shooter to get the cap back in his throat and then I have a squirt bottle and gently give him a bit of water to help wash it down. THEN, the most important part, I give him a treat! For a medicine you have to give for more than a day or two - instituting treat time immediately post pilling can be the only way to have kitty tolerate the pilling itself. Ninja was a dream to medicate, which was fortunate considering she got her meds twice a day. I would crush up her pills and put them in some baby food - watered down a bit and NO ONION - and use a syringe and then she got a treat of the baby food. When I started to get her meds ready, she came and sat by her treat dish watching me. All I had to do was lean over, gently hold her head with one hand, syringe with the other and that was that. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You sound like you had him on the counter, trying to hold
 him with just your arms. You really have to "sit" on him. Get his body between your legs as you kneel over him, lock your feet together so he can't back out from under you, push his body down with your crotch, and if all else fails, Scruff him by grabbing a big handful of neck skin and pulling it as tight as you can, and try getting the pill in with the other hand. Realistically, you probably need someone to help you by holding his front legs really well. If you have a strong helper that is able to hold the front legs, it wont be near as hard to get the pill in his mouth. I have one that I have to have help with sometimes (luckily I have a live-in boyfriend). Cats are REALLY strong, and if you don't "have your bluff in" over them, there's really not much you can do to control them without hurting them. My cats don't fight me
 so much because they know better, one sharp "be still and take it like a man you sorry little sh*t!" and they usually surrender to my prodding and plucking. Rescue cats are another story, some of them I don't even try to pill (I have one I can't even touch, so I know trying to pill him would be impossible). Sometimes the fight is just NOT worth it. If it's going to be a battle, I just board them at the vet's office for the course of treatment, and pay to let the vet techs deal with them. Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/ Adopt a FELV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html ~~~ I
 collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to! ~ Does your cat have chronic diarrhea that does not respond to treatment, or has your cat been loosely diagnosed as IBD? Have you tested for Tritrichomonosis? The test is new, the new drug makes it curable. Ask me today how you can test for Trich! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database:
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Re: Impossible

2005-11-29 Thread felv
LOL MC, Doobie is easy to medicate - Once you catch him. He runs and hides and 
runs
and runs, but once you corner him and grab him, he resigns himself to his fate, 
and
isn't any trouble. He's chronic anemic, so he gets vity-mighty-mins 
occasionally. I
usually torment him by saying out really loud Dobi, it's TIME for your
VITY-MIGHTY-MIS! at which point the chase is on, LOL! It's kinda a game 
for us
really, he's actually no trouble at all.

Jenn
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue:
http://ucat.us/adopt.html
Adopt a FIV+ cat:
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Adopt a FELV+ cat:
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~~~
I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must
live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.
Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up 
until she
earns a free can of formula!
PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!
If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send 
them
to!
~
Does your cat have chronic diarrhea that does not respond to treatment, or has 
your
cat been loosely diagnosed as IBD?
Have you tested for Tritrichomonosis? The test is new, the new drug makes it 
curable.
Ask me today how you can test for Trich!



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Re: Impossible

2005-11-29 Thread TenHouseCats
i'm firmly convinced that my cats LOVE to watch mommy run around the
house after them with a loaded syringe as i said, great
exercise

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Re: Impossible

2005-11-29 Thread Nina
You're so funny!  My felv babies were easy to medicate, but they were 
bottle babies and trusted me completely.  I have the full gamut here, 
those that are easy, those that can be easily restrained, and those that 
would rather kill me than submit to taking a pill!


TenHouseCats wrote:


i've heard rumors about cats who are easy to medicate--i put those
stories in the same category as alien-abduction






Re: Impossible

2005-11-29 Thread Nina
When I was having to daily medicate Gracie, I found that even thinking 
about pill time would send her scurrying.  I would have to keep 
something else in my mind, (birds fluttering worked best!), or I 
wouldn't be able to find her when I had the pill popper ready :) .

N

TenHouseCats wrote:


i'm firmly convinced that my cats LOVE to watch mommy run around the
house after them with a loaded syringe as i said, great
exercise

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Re: Impossible

2005-11-29 Thread Sherry DeHaan
I guess I got lucky with my Maizee,she took her pill like a good little trooper,hey we had to do it everyday so something had to give.At firts it wasn't that easy,but we came to a understanding,and the pill popper really helped.A while back she stole the popper and I still have not found it :),I had to give her meds by hand until I got a new one.I showed her :) she was some special furbaby.  SherryNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  When I was having to daily medicate Gracie, I found that even thinking about pill time would send her scurrying. I would have to keep something else in my mind, (birds fluttering worked best!), or I wouldn't be able to find her when I had the pill popper ready :) .NTenHouseCats wrote:i'm firmly convinced that my cats LOVE to watch mommy run around thehouse after
 them with a loaded syringe as i said, greatexercise--MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892   
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Re: Impossible

2005-11-29 Thread Sherry DeHaan
That is so true Tencats,For the first few weeks I would get nervous and an upset stomach when it was close to the time to give her that dreaded pill,but like I said it was like we somehow came to an understanding,plus I would give her one or 2 of her Temptations treats,then the pill then a whole bunch of treats,at first I would give her a fingerful of Cool whip,she loved that stuff.TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  yep, they DEFINITELY know what we're thinking about mentalattitude is really the key--you have to go at the process with thefull intention and confidence that you are GOING to medicate that cat,and that's that--MUCH harder to do than write about, for sure!On 11/29/05, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: When I was having to daily medicate Gracie, I found that even thinking about
 pill time would send her scurrying. I would have to keep something else in my mind, (birds fluttering worked best!), or I wouldn't be able to find her when I had the pill popper ready :) . N TenHouseCats wrote: i'm firmly convinced that my cats LOVE to watch mommy run around the house after them with a loaded syringe as i said, great exercise  -- MaryChristine  AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 --MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
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Re: Impossible

2005-11-29 Thread Lernermichelle



There are two good things about the strategy I suggested re: Nutrical-- 1) 
they like the taste of the Nutrical usually so the pill does not taste bad, and 
2) if you get it back in their mouth it sticks because of the goopiness of the 
substance so it is harder to spit out.

You can also add wrapping the cat in a towel and holding the cat between 
your legs so you can use one hand to hold the mouth open and the other to stick 
the gob in.
Michelle


Re: Impossible

2005-11-29 Thread PEC2851




In a message dated 11/29/05 10:44:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i've 
  heard rumors about cats who are easy to medicate--i put thosestories in 
  the same category as alien-abduction

LOL!
Patti



RE: Impossible

2005-11-29 Thread Chris









I think those things we
think are cats are really aliens who figured out it was not so bad to be a cat
in one of our homes!





Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005
1:07 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Impossible







In a
message dated 11/29/05 10:44:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:





i've
heard rumors about cats who are easy to medicate--i put those
stories in the same category as alien-abduction







LOL!





Patti
















Re: Impossible

2005-11-29 Thread Lernermichelle




I was convinced this was true of Peepers, a friend's cat who lived with me 
for a while. He looked and acted like an alien, and it seemed quite clear that 
he was only here on a mission to investigate humans.
Michelle

In a message dated 11/29/2005 1:13:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think those things 
  we think are cats are really aliens who figured out it was not so bad to be a 
  cat in one of our homes!




Impossible

2005-11-28 Thread veggiepugs
Ok either I'm completely moronic or my cat is a superhero. I can NOT do any of 
the things suggested to give him a 
pill. I don't know what to do, I'm so frustrated I'm on the verge of tears. 
Tried crushing in food...he won't eat. Tried 
giving orally, he spit it out, scratched and bit me...tried crushing and 
syringing, he scratched me and freaked out 
again...tried wrapping him in a towel, putting on gloves and then 
syringing...he just used his back feet to kick and 
scratch and regurgitated it all and spit it out, followed by kicking the mortar 
and pestle off the counter wasting the 
rest of what was left for him to take. I now have a burning cat scratch on my 
hand, a very upset cat who won't come 
near me and wasted medicine. I can't even call the vet because they're closed. 
He STILL has diarrhea really bad, not 
vomiting and has an appetite but the diarrhea NEEDS treatment. I came home 2x 
today and found 3 puddles of 
diarrhea in my foyer. I finally got a stool sample to get to the vet, but what 
good is it if I can't even medicate my own 
cat!!! WHAT DO I DO!! I am SO frustrated and upset. -Rebecca



Re: Impossible

2005-11-28 Thread Terri Brown




He might need an injection.

Can you do them yourself? If so, maybe your vet will fill the syringe 
for you and you can inject him without you having to take him out of the 
house

Just a thought.

Lurker Terri in NJ

  - Original Message - 
  From: veggiepugs 
  To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:08 
  PM
  Subject: Impossible
  Ok either I'm completely moronic or my cat is a superhero. I 
  can NOT do any of the things suggested to give him a pill. I don't know 
  what to do, I'm so frustrated I'm on the verge of tears. Tried crushing in 
  food...he won't eat. Tried giving orally, he spit it out, scratched and 
  bit me...tried crushing and syringing, he scratched me and freaked out 
  again...tried wrapping him in a towel, putting on gloves and then 
  syringing...he just used his back feet to kick and scratch and 
  regurgitated it all and spit it out, followed by kicking the mortar and pestle 
  off the counter wasting the rest of what was left for him to take. I now 
  have a burning cat scratch on my hand, a very upset cat who won't come 
  near me and wasted medicine. I can't even call the vet because they're 
  closed. He STILL has diarrhea really bad, not vomiting and has an appetite 
  but the diarrhea NEEDS treatment. I came home 2x today and found 3 puddles of 
  diarrhea in my foyer. I finally got a stool sample to get to the vet, but 
  what good is it if I can't even medicate my own cat!!! WHAT DO I DO!! 
  I am SO frustrated and upset. -Rebecca


Re: Impossible

2005-11-28 Thread TenHouseCats
i always try to get meds in injectible form whenever possible. i
used to think i'd never be able to do it, but after the agony and
trauma of trying to pill the little darlings, and seeing them not bat
an eyelash (so to speak) for shots, well.

good luck! working at the sanctuary, where i'd sometimes have to pill
30 cats in one day, i've finally gotten really good at it--EXCEPT with
some of my own cats, who are persians, and haven't the mouths big
enough to get the fingers in to help the pill get closer to the
throat!

On 11/28/05, Terri Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 He might need an injection.

 Can you do them yourself?  If so, maybe your vet will fill the syringe for
 you and you can inject him without you having to take him out of the
 house

 Just a thought.

 Lurker Terri in NJ

 - Original Message -
 From: veggiepugs
 To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:08 PM
 Subject: Impossible

 Ok either I'm completely moronic or my cat is a superhero. I can NOT do any
 of the things suggested to give him a
 pill. I don't know what to do, I'm so frustrated I'm on the verge of tears.
 Tried crushing in food...he won't eat. Tried
 giving orally, he spit it out, scratched and bit me...tried crushing and
 syringing, he scratched me and freaked out
 again...tried wrapping him in a towel, putting on gloves and then
 syringing...he just used his back feet to kick and
 scratch and regurgitated it all and spit it out, followed by kicking the
 mortar and pestle off the counter wasting the
 rest of what was left for him to take. I now have a burning cat scratch on
 my hand, a very upset cat who won't come
 near me and wasted medicine. I can't even call the vet because they're
 closed. He STILL has diarrhea really bad, not
 vomiting and has an appetite but the diarrhea NEEDS treatment. I came home
 2x today and found 3 puddles of
 diarrhea in my foyer. I finally got a stool sample to get to the vet, but
 what good is it if I can't even medicate my own
 cat!!! WHAT DO I DO!! I am SO frustrated and upset. -Rebecca




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Re: Impossible

2005-11-28 Thread Dudes
Aw, Rebecca, I wish I was there to help you hold him!  That Metranidazole is
so bitter!  Cats are so agile and lithe, able to twist and kick so fast.
Even when they don't feel well.  It sounds like you really tried your
hardest.  Perhaps the vet will find another way to help you help him.

And Brooklyn will forgive you.   I can't tell you how many times I have had
to apologize to one of my cat's backs, and explained that I was trying to
help.  Most of the time I won't be acknowledged, except for an ear will turn
my way, as if to say, I'm listening.  Keeping talking, I hear you.  Pretty
soon, it was as if it never happened.

Let us know what the vet suggests.
Hugs,
Sandy




- Original Message -
From: veggiepugs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: Impossible


 Ok either I'm completely moronic or my cat is a superhero. I can NOT do
any of the things suggested to give him a
 pill. I don't know what to do, I'm so frustrated I'm on the verge of
tears. Tried crushing in food...he won't eat. Tried
 giving orally, he spit it out, scratched and bit me...tried crushing and
syringing, he scratched me and freaked out
 again...tried wrapping him in a towel, putting on gloves and then
syringing...he just used his back feet to kick and
 scratch and regurgitated it all and spit it out, followed by kicking the
mortar and pestle off the counter wasting the
 rest of what was left for him to take. I now have a burning cat scratch on
my hand, a very upset cat who won't come
 near me and wasted medicine. I can't even call the vet because they're
closed. He STILL has diarrhea really bad, not
 vomiting and has an appetite but the diarrhea NEEDS treatment. I came home
2x today and found 3 puddles of
 diarrhea in my foyer. I finally got a stool sample to get to the vet, but
what good is it if I can't even medicate my own
 cat!!! WHAT DO I DO!! I am SO frustrated and upset. -Rebecca





Re: Impossible

2005-11-28 Thread Gloria B. Lane

I sympathize.  I like the injection idea.

Also might try - if it's crushable, crush it fine, mix into 1cc turkey juice 
(from a can of turkey), use a 3cc oral syringe.


Gloria


- Original Message - 
From: veggiepugs [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: Impossible


Ok either I'm completely moronic or my cat is a superhero. I can NOT do 
any of the things suggested to give him a
pill. I don't know what to do, I'm so frustrated I'm on the verge of 
tears. Tried crushing in food...he won't eat. Tried
giving orally, he spit it out, scratched and bit me...tried crushing and 
syringing, he scratched me and freaked out
again...tried wrapping him in a towel, putting on gloves and then 
syringing...he just used his back feet to kick and
scratch and regurgitated it all and spit it out, followed by kicking the 
mortar and pestle off the counter wasting the
rest of what was left for him to take. I now have a burning cat scratch on 
my hand, a very upset cat who won't come
near me and wasted medicine. I can't even call the vet because they're 
closed. He STILL has diarrhea really bad, not
vomiting and has an appetite but the diarrhea NEEDS treatment. I came home 
2x today and found 3 puddles of
diarrhea in my foyer. I finally got a stool sample to get to the vet, but 
what good is it if I can't even medicate my own

cat!!! WHAT DO I DO!! I am SO frustrated and upset. -Rebecca