Lucy again
If you have prayers to spare in this terrible week with so many sick cats, please say a little one for Lucy. This time she relapsed at 7.5 mg/day of pred. I am more worried that her ibd could be morphing into lymphoma, as that is a pretty high dose. But maybe I just tapered her too quickly. I am back up to 10 a day and will taper more slowly, but am worried my vet will not refill as he thinks that is too much pred and that she should get a scope if she needs that much. Though I don't see the point, since even if she has lymphoma they would put her on that much pred anyway, and if the pred stops working they use leukeran with both lymphoma and severe ibd, so what is the point of the 3 hours of driving and invasive probes. But I will have to see, because if my local vet will not keep prescribing the pred when she needs it, I may have no choice. Michelle
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Title: Message Sending prayers for Lucy. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:10 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Lucy again If you have prayers to spare in this terrible week with so many sick cats, please say a little one for Lucy. This time she relapsed at 7.5 mg/day of pred. I am more worried that her ibd could be morphing into lymphoma, as that is a pretty high dose. But maybe I just tapered her too quickly. I am back up to 10 a day and will taper more slowly, but am worried my vet will not refill as he thinks that is too much pred and that she should get a scope if she needs that much. Though I don't see the point, since even if she has lymphoma they would put her on that much pred anyway, and if the pred stops working they use leukeran with both lymphoma and severe ibd, so what is the point of the 3 hours of driving and invasive probes. But I will have to see, because if my local vet will not keep prescribing the pred when she needs it, I may have no choice. Michelle IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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At 08:10 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote: Try to remember that cats tolerate Prednisone so much better than dogs,and 7.5 is not that high, Have you asked for Budesonide???It is a steroid that work on the GI system without systemic effects,,,My IBD kitty has been on it,,, All good wishes and thoughts to you and Lucy Kelly If you have prayers to spare in this terrible week with so many sick cats, please say a little one for Lucy. This time she relapsed at 7.5 mg/day of pred. I am more worried that her ibd could be morphing into lymphoma, as that is a pretty high dose. But maybe I just tapered her too quickly. I am back up to 10 a day and will taper more slowly, but am worried my vet will not refill as he thinks that is too much pred and that she should get a scope if she needs that much. Though I don't see the point, since even if she has lymphoma they would put her on that much pred anyway, and if the pred stops working they use leukeran with both lymphoma and severe ibd, so what is the point of the 3 hours of driving and invasive probes. But I will have to see, because if my local vet will not keep prescribing the pred when she needs it, I may have no choice. Michelle No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 9/4/2006
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Here's vibes that Lucy stabilizes and that your local continues to prescribe the prednisone. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:10 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Lucy again If you have prayers to spare in this terrible week with so many sick cats, please say a little one for Lucy. This time she relapsed at 7.5 mg/day of pred. I am more worried that her ibd could be morphing into lymphoma, as that is a pretty high dose. But maybe I just tapered her too quickly. I am back up to 10 a day and will taper more slowly, but am worried my vet will not refill as he thinks that is too much pred and that she should get a scope if she needs that much. Though I don't see the point, since even if she has lymphoma they would put her on that much pred anyway, and if the pred stops working they use leukeran with both lymphoma and severe ibd, so what is the point of the 3 hours of driving and invasive probes. But I will have to see, because if my local vet will not keep prescribing the pred when she needs it, I may have no choice. Michelle This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
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Hi Michelle, Good wishes going out for Lucy and you. I don't know about leukeran, but if she is probably going to be on it eventually anyway, and if your vet won't refill the Pred., maybe he will allow you to switch to leuk. now without the scope and see how that works? Hopefully she'll adjust to the slower taper and it won't be an issue... Best wishes, Beth If you have prayers to spare in this terrible week with so many sick cats, please say a little one for Lucy. This time she relapsed at 7.5 mg/day of pred. I am more worried that her ibd could be morphing into lymphoma, as that is a pretty high dose. But maybe I just tapered her too quickly. I am back up to 10 a day and will taper more slowly, but am worried my vet will not refill as he thinks that is too much pred and that she should get a scope if she needs that much. Though I don't see the point, since even if she has lymphoma they would put her on that much pred anyway, and if the pred stops working they use leukeran with both lymphoma and severe ibd, so what is the point of the 3 hours of driving and invasive probes. But I will have to see, because if my local vet will not keep prescribing the pred when she needs it, I may have no choice. Michelle
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Hi michelle, lucy is in my prayers, I pray for the best for both of you. Lori
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I'm keeping Lucy in my prayers.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:If you have prayers to spare in this terrible week with so many sick cats, please say a little one for Lucy. This time she relapsed at 7.5 mg/day of pred. I am more worried that her ibd could be morphing into lymphoma, as that is a pretty high dose. But maybe I just tapered her too quickly. I am back up to 10 a day and will taper more slowly, but am worried my vet will not refill as he thinks that is too much pred and that she should get a scope if she needs that much. Though I don't see the point, since even if she has lymphoma they would put her on that much pred anyway, and if the pred stops working they use leukeran with both lymphoma and severe ibd, so what is the point of the 3 hours of driving and invasive probes. But I will have to see, because if my local vet will not keep prescribing the pred when she needs it, I may have no choice. MichellePlease visit my Tigger Tales site! On the fundraising page are my merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales. I am going to donate 100% of the proceeds to animal welfare organizations. This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com
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Thanks. Yes, I asked for Budesonide, but my local vet has never used it and will not give it to me. If I have to take her to the specialist that is on my list of things to ask for, but she is so god-awful in the car and gets so stressed out by it that I do not want to do the long car trip if not completely necessary. I know 7.5 is not that high in terms of what they can tolerate, but it is pretty high for her to still relapse. She has never relapsed while on that much before. That is what worries me. Thanks again, Michelle In a message dated 9/5/2006 11:42:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 08:10 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:Try to remember that cats tolerate Prednisone so much better than dogs,and 7.5 is not that high, Have you asked for Budesonide???It is a steroid that work on the GI system without systemic effects,,,My IBD kitty has been on it,,,All good wishes and thoughts to you and LucyKelly
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When they do leukeran, it is usually combined with pred. I don't think my local vet will ever prescribe leukeran for her. If it gets to that point, we will probably need to go to the specialist. Thanks, Michelle In a message dated 9/5/2006 12:35:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Michelle, Good wishes going out for Lucy and you. I don't know about leukeran, but if she is probably going to be on it eventually anyway, and if your vet won't refill the Pred., maybe he will allow you to switch to leuk. now without the scope and see how that works? Hopefully she'll adjust to the slower taper and it won't be an issue... Best wishes, Beth
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At 07:09 AM 9/6/2006, you wrote: Most vets have access to current medication and Budesonide is used by many these days, Perhaps if you take her /him in the literature he will use it, Kelly Thanks. Yes, I asked for Budesonide, but my local vet has never used it and will not give it to me. If I have to take her to the specialist that is on my list of things to ask for, but she is so god-awful in the car and gets so stressed out by it that I do not want to do the long car trip if not completely necessary. I know 7.5 is not that high in terms of what they can tolerate, but it is pretty high for her to still relapse. She has never relapsed while on that much before. That is what worries me. Thanks again, Michelle In a message dated 9/5/2006 11:42:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 08:10 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote: Try to remember that cats tolerate Prednisone so much better than dogs,and 7.5 is not that high, Have you asked for Budesonide???It is a steroid that work on the GI system without systemic effects,,,My IBD kitty has been on it,,, All good wishes and thoughts to you and Lucy Kelly No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.0/439 - Release Date: 9/6/2006
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Prayers for Lucy. take care, tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have prayers to spare in this terrible week with so many sick cats, please say a little one for Lucy. This time she relapsed at 7.5 mg/day of pred. I am more worried that her ibd could be morphing into lymphoma, as that is a pretty high dose. But maybe I just tapered her too quickly. I am back up to 10 a day and will taper more slowly, but am worried my vet will not refill as he thinks that is too much pred and that she should get a scope if she needs that much. Though I don't see the point, since even if she has lymphoma they would put her on that much pred anyway, and if the pred stops working they use leukeran with both lymphoma and severe ibd, so what is the point of the 3 hours of driving and invasive probes. But I will have to see, because if my local vet will not keep prescribing the pred when she needs it, I may have no choice. Michelle
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There is no point in stressing Lucy if you don't have to. I wonder if there are other sources of pred. Do you have a farm/seed store around. Sometimes they have meds for livestock OTC that would require a prescription for a pet. I don't know but it would be worth a call. Lots of prayers for Lucy and all the others. And for you and all the other caregivers. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 1:41 PM Subject: Re: Lucy again Prayers for Lucy. take care, tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have prayers to spare in this terrible week with so many sick cats, please say a little one for Lucy. This time she relapsed at 7.5 mg/day of pred. I am more worried that her ibd could be morphing into lymphoma, as that is a pretty high dose. But maybe I just tapered her too quickly. I am back up to 10 a day and will taper more slowly, but am worried my vet will not refill as he thinks that is too much pred and that she should get a scope if she needs that much. Though I don't see the point, since even if she has lymphoma they would put her on that much pred anyway, and if the pred stops working they use leukeran with both lymphoma and severe ibd, so what is the point of the 3 hours of driving and invasive probes. But I will have to see, because if my local vet will not keep prescribing the pred when she needs it, I may have no choice. Michelle
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Thanks. The vet said he will refill for me at least one more time but to try to reduce it as fast as I can without it bothering her. I had put her on 11.25 mg/day and went to 10 mg/day yesterday and today she has blood on her stool and is eating a little less again. But solid stools and acting frisky, so hope she is just adjusting. Michelle In a message dated 9/9/2006 3:40:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is no point in stressing Lucy if you don't have to. I wonder if there are other sources of pred. Do you have a farm/seed store around. Sometimes they have meds for livestock OTC that would require a prescription for a pet. I don't know but it would be worth a call. Lots of prayers for Lucy and all the others. And for you and all the other caregivers.
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At 02:47 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote: I also have an IBD cat,,,The budesonide was great,,,If your vet is unfamiliar with it have him familiarize himself, he can be on it for life... they say it takes months to reduce [EMAIL PROTECTED] feel free to call anytime where are you located Kelly. Thanks. The vet said he will refill for me at least one more time but to try to reduce it as fast as I can without it bothering her. I had put her on 11.25 mg/day and went to 10 mg/day yesterday and today she has blood on her stool and is eating a little less again. But solid stools and acting frisky, so hope she is just adjusting. Michelle In a message dated 9/9/2006 3:40:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is no point in stressing Lucy if you don't have to. I wonder if there are other sources of pred. Do you have a farm/seed store around. Sometimes they have meds for livestock OTC that would require a prescription for a pet. I don't know but it would be worth a call. Lots of prayers for Lucy and all the others. And for you and all the other caregivers. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006
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At 02:47 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote: Also try the [EMAIL PROTECTED] good support and suggestions Kelly Thanks. The vet said he will refill for me at least one more time but to try to reduce it as fast as I can without it bothering her. I had put her on 11.25 mg/day and went to 10 mg/day yesterday and today she has blood on her stool and is eating a little less again. But solid stools and acting frisky, so hope she is just adjusting. Michelle In a message dated 9/9/2006 3:40:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is no point in stressing Lucy if you don't have to. I wonder if there are other sources of pred. Do you have a farm/seed store around. Sometimes they have meds for livestock OTC that would require a prescription for a pet. I don't know but it would be worth a call. Lots of prayers for Lucy and all the others. And for you and all the other caregivers. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006
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I'm in NJ. Where are you? Michelle In a message dated 9/9/2006 5:57:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 02:47 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:I also have an IBD cat,,,The budesonide was great,,,If your vet is unfamiliar with it have him familiarize himself, he can be on it for life...they say it takes months to reduce [EMAIL PROTECTED]feel free to call anytimewhere are you locatedKelly.
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I was on that group for a while, but the moderator was very mean and kept refusing to post my messages because she said I either included too much of the previous post or not enough, and when I said something about not having this problem on other lists and really needing to just get some advice she went off at me in a really nasty email, so I left the group. Unfortunately. Michelle In a message dated 9/9/2006 6:01:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also try the [EMAIL PROTECTED]good support and suggestionsKelly
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At 03:17 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote: i am in California I'm in NJ. Where are you? Michelle In a message dated 9/9/2006 5:57:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 02:47 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote: I also have an IBD cat,,,The budesonide was great,,,If your vet is unfamiliar with it have him familiarize himself, he can be on it for life... they say it takes months to reduce [EMAIL PROTECTED] feel free to call anytime where are you located Kelly. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006
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At 03:18 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote: Ya ..I left for the same reasons,,especially if I did not agree on the RAW stuff,,,It would be a good place to gather infor on Budesonide for your vet..you can just go their archives and print up stuff on it from there and take it to your vet also, I was on that group for a while, but the moderator was very mean and kept refusing to post my messages because she said I either included too much of the previous post or not enough, and when I said something about not having this problem on other lists and really needing to just get some advice she went off at me in a really nasty email, so I left the group. Unfortunately. Michelle In a message dated 9/9/2006 6:01:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also try the [EMAIL PROTECTED] good support and suggestions Kelly No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006
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I had the same problem. Maddening! This was right after Marie developed colitis and the fecal showed tritrichomomos foetus, which is often mistaken for flagyl-resistant giardia. I was trying to share that info and an off-list email I received urhed me to trim and post but i was never able to trim to their standardskelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 03:18 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:Ya ..I left for the same reasons,,especially if I did not agree on the RAW stuff,,,It would be a good place to gather infor on Budesonide for your vet..you can just go their archives and print up stuff on it from there and take it to your vet also, I was on that group for a while, but the moderator was very mean and kept refusing to post my messages because she said I either included too much of the previous post or not enough, and when I said something about not having this problem on other lists and really needing to just get some advice she went off at me in a really nasty email, so I left the group. Unfortunately.Michelle In a message dated 9/9/2006 6:01:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Also try the [EMAIL PROTECTED] good support and suggestions Kelly No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006
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Michelle, My Paddy who was 20 at the time (he is now 21 1/2!) was on 10 mg of prednisolone for about 6 months . When I tapered him, it was very very gradually. Several months on 7.5 mg per day, then 5 mg, & now he is on a permanent daily dose of 2.5. Does Lucy have any of the usual symptoms?: Vomiting, diarrhea? Loss of weight? Pam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have prayers to spare in this terrible week with so many sick cats, please say a little one for Lucy. This time she relapsed at 7.5 mg/day of pred. I am more worried that her ibd could be morphing into lymphoma, as that is a pretty high dose. But maybe I just tapered her too quickly. I am back up to 10 a day and will taper more slowly, but am worried my vet will not refill as he thinks that is too much pred and that she should get a scope if she needs that much. Though I don't see the point, since even if she has lymphoma they would put her on that much pred anyway, and if the pred stops working they use leukeran with both lymphoma and severe ibd, so what is the point of the 3 hours of driving and invasive probes. But I will have to see, because if my local vet will not keep prescribing the pred when she needs it, I may have no choice. Michelle
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Michelle. don't reduce it any further for at least two-three weeks. Are there no other vets for her to go to? Where are you? Pam - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Lucy again Thanks. The vet said he will refill for me at least one more time but to try to reduce it as fast as I can without it bothering her. I had put her on 11.25 mg/day and went to 10 mg/day yesterday and today she has blood on her stool and is eating a little less again. But solid stools and acting frisky, so hope she is just adjusting. Michelle In a message dated 9/9/2006 3:40:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is no point in stressing Lucy if you don't have to. I wonder if there are other sources of pred. Do you have a farm/seed store around. Sometimes they have meds for livestock OTC that would require a prescription for a pet. I don't know but it would be worth a call. Lots of prayers for Lucy and all the others. And for you and all the other caregivers.
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Michelle, That group is known for being ultra fussy about trimming posts. I would try it again & just be really careful about it. It's frustrating but the information available is worth it. Pam - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 5:18 PM Subject: Re: Lucy again I was on that group for a while, but the moderator was very mean and kept refusing to post my messages because she said I either included too much of the previous post or not enough, and when I said something about not having this problem on other lists and really needing to just get some advice she went off at me in a really nasty email, so I left the group. Unfortunately. Michelle In a message dated 9/9/2006 6:01:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also try the [EMAIL PROTECTED]good support and suggestionsKelly
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Where in California? Pam - Original Message - From: kelly To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 5:18 PM Subject: Re: Lucy again At 03:17 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:i am in California I'm in NJ. Where are you?Michelle In a message dated 9/9/2006 5:57:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 02:47 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote: I also have an IBD cat,,,The budesonide was great,,,If your vet is unfamiliar with it have him familiarize himself, he can be on it for life... they say it takes months to reduce [EMAIL PROTECTED] feel free to call anytime where are you located Kelly. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006
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I got put on moderation several times & I think the whole issue is ridiculous with the extent to which they take it. They want JUST the information you are replying to. And they watch it like a hawk. There was another IBD list but I think it went under. Pam - Original Message - From: Susan Hoffman To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 8:29 PM Subject: Re: Lucy again I had the same problem. Maddening! This was right after Marie developed colitis and the fecal showed tritrichomomos foetus, which is often mistaken for flagyl-resistant giardia. I was trying to share that info and an off-list email I received urhed me to trim and post but i was never able to trim to their standardskelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 03:18 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:Ya ..I left for the same reasons,,especially if I did not agree on the RAW stuff,,,It would be a good place to gather infor on Budesonide for your vet..you can just go their archives and print up stuff on it from there and take it to your vet also, I was on that group for a while, but the moderator was very mean and kept refusing to post my messages because she said I either included too much of the previous post or not enough, and when I said something about not having this problem on other lists and really needing to just get some advice she went off at me in a really nasty email, so I left the group. Unfortunately.Michelle In a message dated 9/9/2006 6:01:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also try the [EMAIL PROTECTED] good support and suggestions Kelly No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006
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Dear Michelle: If you find that you need pred after this refill let me know. I probably can be of some help! I have the pred in 5 mgs tablets. I hope the transition for Lucy and you goes smoothly! Best wishes! Precious Pets --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Thanks. The vet said he will refill for me at least > one more time but to try > to reduce it as fast as I can without it bothering > her. I had put her on > 11.25 mg/day and went to 10 mg/day yesterday and > today she has blood on her > stool and is eating a little less again. But solid > stools and acting frisky, so > hope she is just adjusting. > Michelle > > In a message dated 9/9/2006 3:40:59 P.M. Eastern > Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > There is no point in stressing Lucy if you don't > have to. I wonder if there > are other sources of pred. Do you have a farm/seed > store around. Sometimes > they have meds for livestock OTC that would require > a prescription for a > pet. I don't know but it would be worth a call. > > Lots of prayers for Lucy and all the others. And > for you and all the other > caregivers. > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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I have prednisolone in 5 mg tablets. I like it better than prednisone because it's not metabolized by the liver & my Paddy, even tho his liver values are fine, has a very old liver at 21 1/2 years. I almost never use prednisone anymore, only prednisolone, & they are identical except for that one thing. Pam - Original Message - From: "Precious Pets, Almost Home" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 7:20 AM Subject: Re: Lucy again Dear Michelle: If you find that you need pred after this refill let me know. I probably can be of some help! I have the pred in 5 mgs tablets. I hope the transition for Lucy and you goes smoothly! Best wishes! Precious Pets --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. The vet said he will refill for me at least one more time but to try to reduce it as fast as I can without it bothering her. I had put her on 11.25 mg/day and went to 10 mg/day yesterday and today she has blood on her stool and is eating a little less again. But solid stools and acting frisky, so hope she is just adjusting. Michelle In a message dated 9/9/2006 3:40:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is no point in stressing Lucy if you don't have to. I wonder if there are other sources of pred. Do you have a farm/seed store around. Sometimes they have meds for livestock OTC that would require a prescription for a pet. I don't know but it would be worth a call. Lots of prayers for Lucy and all the others. And for you and all the other caregivers. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Lucy again
I just want to specify that I have the Prednisolone in 5 mg tablets if that is what you need. Also, from my experience you are suppose to decrease the dosage of the Pred slowly. Stages of decreasment would be for periods of two to three weeks. Precious Pets --- Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have prednisolone in 5 mg tablets. I like it > better than prednisone > because it's not metabolized by the liver & my > Paddy, even tho his liver > values are fine, has a very old liver at 21 1/2 > years. I almost never use > prednisone anymore, only prednisolone, & they are > identical except for that > one thing. > > Pam > - Original Message - > From: "Precious Pets, Almost Home" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 7:20 AM > Subject: Re: Lucy again > > > > Dear Michelle: > > > > If you find that you need pred after this refill > let > > me know. I probably can be of some help! I have > the > > pred in 5 mgs tablets. > > > > I hope the transition for Lucy and you goes > smoothly! > > Best wishes! > > > > Precious Pets > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > >> Thanks. The vet said he will refill for me at > least > >> one more time but to try > >> to reduce it as fast as I can without it > bothering > >> her. I had put her on > >> 11.25 mg/day and went to 10 mg/day yesterday and > >> today she has blood on her > >> stool and is eating a little less again. But > solid > >> stools and acting frisky, so > >> hope she is just adjusting. > >> Michelle > >> > >> In a message dated 9/9/2006 3:40:59 P.M. Eastern > >> Daylight Time, > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> > >> There is no point in stressing Lucy if you don't > >> have to. I wonder if there > >> are other sources of pred. Do you have a > farm/seed > >> store around. Sometimes > >> they have meds for livestock OTC that would > require > >> a prescription for a > >> pet. I don't know but it would be worth a call. > >> > >> Lots of prayers for Lucy and all the others. > And > >> for you and all the other > >> caregivers. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Lucy again
There other one is still going, actually. I tried it after leaving the first one. The moderator was better, but some of the members are really mean and I ended up leaving because they kept saying nasty things in response to suggestions I made. Michelle In a message dated 9/9/2006 10:53:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I got put on moderation several times & I think the whole issue is ridiculous with the extent to which they take it. They want JUST the information you are replying to. And they watch it like a hawk. There was another IBD list but I think it went under. Pam
Re: Lucy again
I'm in NJ. This is already the second vet in the area that I am trying. I just made an appointment with a really good veterinary referral center for next Friday, with an internist. Unfortunately it is over 1.5 hours away, and Lucy hates hates hates the car, so I am stressed about it. Michelle In a message dated 9/9/2006 10:44:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michelle. don't reduce it any further for at least two-three weeks. Are there no other vets for her to go to? Where are you? Pam -
Re: Lucy again
When I have upped her pred it was because she had bad diarrhea, but 10 mg/day of pred makes her bowels solid within a day or two. She only vomits when relapsing, and only after eating grass. The pred stops it immediately. She lost weight when she relapsed 2 months ago, about a pound, and has not put much of it back on but has not lost more. She is about 8 pounds now, maybe a little more. I am really worried right now, though, because since last night she has not been very interested in food. She is eating a little, but only with great encouragement and harrassment. I gave her a little pepcid and a little reglan, and some fluids. She is otherwise acting ok. I am not worried about getting food into her, as she is incredibly easy to force-feed, but more worried as to why she's not wanting food when she is on so much pred. It makes me worry more about lymphoma. Michelle In a message dated 9/9/2006 10:42:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michelle, My Paddy who was 20 at the time (he is now 21 1/2!) was on 10 mg of prednisolone for about 6 months . When I tapered him, it was very very gradually. Several months on 7.5 mg per day, then 5 mg, & now he is on a permanent daily dose of 2.5. Does Lucy have any of the usual symptoms?: Vomiting, diarrhea? Loss of weight? Pam
Re: Lucy again
Try giving her Rescue Remedy before you leave and spray the devil out of the car and carrier with Feliway and Catnip spray. It helps a bunch. Then give yourself some RR. Dixie told some ACs that I needed it more than she did. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:58 AM Subject: Re: Lucy again I'm in NJ. This is already the second vet in the area that I am trying. I just made an appointment with a really good veterinary referral center for next Friday, with an internist. Unfortunately it is over 1.5 hours away, and Lucy hates hates hates the car, so I am stressed about it. Michelle In a message dated 9/9/2006 10:44:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michelle. don't reduce it any further for at least two-three weeks. Are there no other vets for her to go to? Where are you? Pam -