Re: Now Prayers for Buffy and Questions
Tad,I hope things improve for Buffy. :( I have no ideas for you but to give her lots of love.tonyaTad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It never rains but it poursToday Buffy is not acting herself...She also came from AW and from early records she was pulledat the same day and very similar condition...Vet recommendedPTSI even wonder if they are litter mates...Any way...A trip to the vet revealed fluid in the chestShe now haspills and will be on interferon...Both Callie and Buffy and also Jet have seemed so well that my vethad felt that interferon should be saved for when a problem shows up...But now that I think of it most of my deaths have gone like Callie...I am trying to find what was the clue that I missed with Callie...(Not doing this for a reason to beat myself up but for the next one..)1st...I think everybody will go on interferon...2nd..A week or 2 ago I had noticed that Callie who was skin and boneswhen I got her had grown her long hair back so it was hard to tell howmuch meat she had put on...To look at her she was bordering on overweightbut her backbone still felt a bit bony and her stomach was wideEven though the vet didn't mention fluid on the chest, the breakdown of theblood and kidneys and liver were what was doing her inI suppose the pot belly stomach could have been fluid on the chest and perhapsif I had caught it then there would have been time to have helped Callie tohave longer with meHow does this sound ?? Looking for comments...Tad
Re: Now Prayers for Buffy and Questions
Tad, How is Buffy doing today? N Tad Burnett wrote: It never rains but it poursToday Buffy is not acting herself... She also came from AW and from early records she was pulled at the same day and very similar condition...Vet recommended PTSI even wonder if they are litter mates... Any way...A trip to the vet revealed fluid in the chestShe now has pills and will be on interferon...
Re: Now Prayers for Buffy and Questions
So far it seems to be good news for Buffy She was never an active cat like Callie ... It can't say for sure if the meds worked that quickly or if it was the loss of Callie that caused her to be shy and not eat... One of my other cats seemed to get back to their old self in just a few hours just like Buffy did when I started then on interferon and it didn't do a thing for Annie that I lost a month ago... Annie was very anemic though...I wish I understood more about this disease...but I guess we all do And just to keep things going we brought home Owen...He is a middle aged long hair tuxedo... Very pretty boy but not happy about being inside and not very friendly...Hope we can change that... Tad Nina wrote: Tad, How is Buffy doing today? N Tad Burnett wrote: It never rains but it poursToday Buffy is not acting herself... She also came from AW and from early records she was pulled at the same day and very similar condition...Vet recommended PTSI even wonder if they are litter mates... Any way...A trip to the vet revealed fluid in the chestShe now has pills and will be on interferon...
Now Prayers for Buffy and Questions
It never rains but it poursToday Buffy is not acting herself... She also came from AW and from early records she was pulled at the same day and very similar condition...Vet recommended PTSI even wonder if they are litter mates... Any way...A trip to the vet revealed fluid in the chestShe now has pills and will be on interferon... Both Callie and Buffy and also Jet have seemed so well that my vet had felt that interferon should be saved for when a problem shows up... But now that I think of it most of my deaths have gone like Callie... I am trying to find what was the clue that I missed with Callie... (Not doing this for a reason to beat myself up but for the next one..) 1st...I think everybody will go on interferon... 2nd..A week or 2 ago I had noticed that Callie who was skin and bones when I got her had grown her long hair back so it was hard to tell how much meat she had put on...To look at her she was bordering on overweight but her backbone still felt a bit bony and her stomach was wide Even though the vet didn't mention fluid on the chest, the breakdown of the blood and kidneys and liver were what was doing her in I suppose the pot belly stomach could have been fluid on the chest and perhaps if I had caught it then there would have been time to have helped Callie to have longer with me How does this sound ?? Looking for comments... Tad
Re: Now Prayers for Buffy and Questions
I hate to even suggest such a thing, but could it be FIP Tad? Is it IN the lungs, or in the abdomen? FIP is known to go down genetic lines, so related cats are more likely to develop it if one has already been diagnosed in the past. I'm SURE they were all exposed to Corona at some point in their lives, being with so many other cats at AW, and at your place. Corona doesn't always turn into FIP, only in certain genetically-prone cats. Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/ Adopt a FELV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to! ~ Does your cat have chronic diarrhea that does not respond to treatment, or has your cat been loosely diagnosed as IBD? Have you tested for Tritrichomonosis? The test is new, the new drug makes it curable. Ask me today how you can test for Trich! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/6/2005
Re: Now Prayers for Buffy and Questions
Jenn...I don't knowAre you suggesting that liquid in the lung cavity is not a symptom of FeLV+ ??? My vet thinks it isHow can I tell if its FIP ??? Tad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to even suggest such a thing, but could it be FIP Tad? Is it IN the lungs, or in the abdomen? FIP is known to go down genetic lines, so related cats are more likely to develop it if one has already been diagnosed in the past. I'm SURE they were all exposed to Corona at some point in their lives, being with so many other cats at AW, and at your place. Corona doesn't always turn into FIP, only in certain genetically-prone cats. Jenn
Re: Now Prayers for Buffy and Questions
Liquid in the LUNGS probably is related to FELV (pneumonia), I was asking if you were sure it wasn't just fluid in the abdomen or chest cavity. Here's a few snippets off a few good webpages about FIP. You can find links to the entire webpages on my website, if you want more info. Wet or effusive FIP This is the acute form of the disease, where many blood vessels are damaged severely and fluid leaks out of them into the abdomen or the thoracic (chest) cavity. When the blood vessels in the abdomen are affected, the cat's tummy swells up with fluid called ascites. When the blood vessels in the thorax are damaged fluid leaks into the chest, impairing the ability of the lungs to expand and the cat shows difficulty breathing. --- What are the clinical signs of FIP? FIP has very diverse clinical manifestations, but there are no clinical signs associated that are unique for the disease. The classic form of the disease, often termed 'wet' FIP is characterised by a build up of yellow fluid within the abdomen (resulting in abdominal distension) and/or chest (resulting in breathing difficulties). However, the presence of this fluid is not diagnostic for FIP, and in addition a large number of FIP cases will not have any visible fluid build up. Initial clinical signs are often very vague, consisting of lethargy and loss of appetite. In some forms of the disease inflammatory lesions in the eye and nervous system can occur, resulting in visual disturbances and abnormal behaviour, a wobbly gait or tremors. The disease is usually rapidly progressive and ultimately fatal. If any fluid is present within either the chest, abdomen or both, analysis of this fluid is one of the most useful tests that can be performed. X-rays of the chest and abdomen, and ultrasound examination of the abdomen are very useful to detect very small amounts of fluid when obvious signs of fluid build up are lacking. This fluid can then be sampled via ultrasound guidance. The fluid is most often (but not always) thick and straw-coloured in appearance, and on analysis has a very high protein content and low cell count. The presence of fluid in the abdomen does not confirm a diagnosis of FIP as some other diseases can also lead to the build up of similar fluid. If the fluid is present within both the chest and abdominal cavity, then FIP is even more likely. - While the first description of feline infectious peritonitis was reported by Dr. Jean Holzworth in 1963, there are reports of clinical cases that are likely FIP going back to1914. Even though we have known about this virus for a long time, we know frustratingly little about it. However, much new research has been done in the past 5 years that is slowly shedding more light on this ever-present feline health problem. This article is designed to present some of the newer information and change some of the older ideas still found in print and other media. Feline coronavirus operates differently from any other feline virus in several important ways: a) systemic antibodies have no protective function for the cat and may play a role in the disease FIP itself b) antibody titres are meaningless for diagnosis of FIP or prognosis c) a vaccine is available, but there is no consensus on its efficacy or safety First, some notes on terminology. a.. FIP is the term for clinical disease associated with feline coronavirus infection. b.. The common benign form of feline coronavirus is referred to as FECV (feline enteric coronavirus). c.. When FECV has mutated into a disease-causing form, it is then referred to as FIPV (feline infectious peritonitis virus). d.. Feline coronaviruses in general are referred to as FCoV. FECV is a very common, highly infectious feline virus. It belongs to the genus Coronavirus, which has members that infect other species (man, swine, cattle, birds, dogs). The majority of cats with FECV (about 95% or more) remain healthy. But in a small number of cases, FECV infection is the first step in a chain of events leading to FIP. This happens because coronaviruses are made of large numbers of nucleotides, the basic unit of genetic material, and they are very prone to mutations. As a virus reproduces itself, errors are made in copying these nucleotides. The more nucleotides, the more errors are possible. While most of these errors are harmless, some will have the effect of giving FECV the ability to cause disease. These mutant FECV strains are called FIPV. Recent research has shown that mutant FECVs arise within an individual cat. Thus, we now know that the vast majority of cats do not catch FIP, but they develop it themselves from their own mutant FECV. Transmission of FIP from cat to cat is considered to be rare. This fact has caused
