Please pray for Bandy
Hi guys, I posted some of Bandy's troubles under the ringworm topic...He really is sick right now...the worst I have seen since all this started last June..I am hoping he will respond to some of the meds real soon..I don't know what to do for him.. He won't eat and drinks only a little...He can't get up at all...I stood him up but he is too weak to stand alone, cause of his leg hurting him.. I think he must have another infection somewhere or I really just don't know...but something is for sure not right..other than the leg problem... Anyway, please pray for him. Thank you, Kerry and Bandy Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
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Kerry, Have you tried checking in with an animal communicator? Sometimes it helps at times like this. Know you and Bandy are in my prayers as are all the little friends. Bless both of you. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kerry Roach To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 4:28 AM Subject: Please pray for Bandy Hi guys, I posted some of Bandy's troubles under the ringworm topic...He really is sick right now...the worst I have seen since all this started last June..I am hoping he will respond to some of the meds real soon..I don't know what to do for him.. He won't eat and drinks only a little...He can't get up at all...I stood him up but he is too weak to stand alone, cause of his leg hurting him.. I think he must have another infection somewhere or I really just don't know...but something is for sure not right..other than the leg problem... Anyway, please pray for him. Thank you, Kerry and Bandy Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006
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Kerry of course I will send prayers for you and Bandy,I hope he can fight whatever is wrong.Kerry Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi guys, I posted some of Bandy's troubles under the ringworm topic...He really is sick right now...the worst I have seen since all this started last June..I am hoping he will respond to some of the meds real soon..I don't know what to do for him.. He won't eat and drinks only a little...He can't get up at all...I stood him up but he is too weak to stand alone, cause of his leg hurting him.. I think he must have another infection somewhere or I really just don't know...but something is for sure not right..other than the leg problem... Anyway, please pray for him. Thank you, Kerry and Bandy Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
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I just gave him a little chicken broth after I gave his liquid baytril..I added a little pedialyte, but he gets so stressed.. He did take it ok. He did drink some water earlier, but I don't think it is enough so I am going to try to get some sub-q fluids as soon as the vet opens...I have been up checking on him most of the night..I know he needs something else, but I don't know what..I think he needs a different antibiotic..along with the baytril..cause his temp is still up, too.. Marylyn, I think awhile back Nina sent me something about an Animal communicator, but I don't remember who it was or how to get in touch with them...I have never used one, but have read about them and some of the posts here at the list...Please send me the info if you can... Thank you, Kerry and Bandy Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better.
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Prayers are on the way for you & your precious little guy. Yvonne In a message dated 6/17/2006 4:29:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi guys, I posted some of Bandy's troubles under the ringworm topic...He really is sick right now...the worst I have seen since all this started last June..I am hoping he will respond to some of the meds real soon..I don't know what to do for him.. He won't eat and drinks only a little...He can't get up at all...I stood him up but he is too weak to stand alone, cause of his leg hurting him.. I think he must have another infection somewhere or I really just don't know...but something is for sure not right..other than the leg problem... Anyway, please pray for him. Thank you, Kerry and Bandy
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Hi Kerry, I have used an animal communicator named Morgen Espe. She was wonderful. Her web site is www.theanimalsvoice.com. Yvonne In a message dated 6/17/2006 7:37:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just gave him a little chicken broth after I gave his liquid baytril..I added a little pedialyte, but he gets so stressed.. He did take it ok. He did drink some water earlier, but I don't think it is enough so I am going to try to get some sub-q fluids as soon as the vet opens...I have been up checking on him most of the night..I know he needs something else, but I don't know what..I think he needs a different antibiotic..along with the baytril..cause his temp is still up, too.. Marylyn, I think awhile back Nina sent me something about an Animal communicator, but I don't remember who it was or how to get in touch with them...I have never used one, but have read about them and some of the posts here at the list...Please send me the info if you can... Thank you, Kerry and Bandy
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Oh Kerry, I am praying for Bandy and you. For you to say he's "the worst" you have seen him is really a frightful thought. You have held his paw through so much... He's fought so hard to stay with you, what an amazing kitty he is. I don't want to upset you more, but do you think he's ready to cross? Have you told him it's okay, that you will be sad, but if Lil Rascal, Buster, Snoopy and his other friends are calling to him you will understand? I know how much heartache you've been through, I know how hard you fight to keep all of your babies as healthy as they can be. There's no one more caring and dedicated than you are to your furry children. It's been such a long hard struggle and my heart goes out to you both. Maybe the Immuno-Regulin will bring the miracle we're all praying for. Did you know that you can order it online yourself? Here's the web page: http://www.revivalanimal.com/product.asp?pn=31-020 Sending you and sweet, sweet Bandy strength and love to see you through, With much love, Nina Kerry Roach wrote: Hi guys, I posted some of Bandy's troubles under the ringworm topic...He really is sick right now...the worst I have seen since all this started last June..I am hoping he will respond to some of the meds real soon..I don't know what to do for him.. He won't eat and drinks only a little...He can't get up at all...I stood him up but he is too weak to stand alone, cause of his leg hurting him.. I think he must have another infection somewhere or I really just don't know...but something is for sure not right..other than the leg problem... Anyway, please pray for him. Thank you, Kerry and Bandy Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
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I'd seriously consider a feeding tube, he may just need a bit to help him through this ringworm crisis. He sounds like he just isn't eating enough calories to have the energy to stand. I don't think sub-Q fluids will help much, it sounds like a calorie intake problem. Maybe they can set up an IV and feed him some calories that way (dextrose?)... Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006
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I took him to the vet today..she is out of town, but in touch with them..They gave him 200cc sub-q fluids, ran a cbc, gave him tagamet injection and Bcomplex injection..His temp was 102.8 which it has been going up and down the since Thurs.. His total protein was 5.8 (not good) PCV was 22 also not good since 3 wks ago is was the highest it had been since he was on procrit last Aug..So she thinks that maybe all his blood work is off due to being a little dehydrated.. He did eat a little when we got home on his own and drank some water..He went to the litter box without falling, but it was all he could do to get back to his bed and fall over on his left side since his leg trouble is on the right..He did walk somewhat better though..but wobbly.. I gave him 3cc of nutrical, too..So they said I need to bring him back tomorrow to be looked at again to see if he is better and for more fluids. I hate to do that, but if he needs any other meds, it is the best way for us to do it..I could give the fluids here, but he might need something else..His WBC was normal...I think they will probably run another PCV and TP on Monday to see if they went up after he is hydrated and hopefully eating. I am going to try the immuno-regulin for sure..It might be what we should have done a long time ago.. Nina, have you bought that from the site you sent to me or do you know someone that has? Just wondering..Please let me know what you all know about this as I want to start that asap. Thanks again to you all, Kerry and Bandy Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
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Kerry, I bought the Immuno-Regulin from Revival online, and it arrived quickly and without problem, and I think was about $30 for a vial I have used several times and it is still half full. Michelle
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Kerry,. if he is still not eating enough, 1) try the liver shake recipe, and 2) if he won't eat that either or enough (normal or almost normal amount) you should probably syringe feed him some. Once they don't eat, they feel weaker and worse, which makes them less likely to eat, a vicious circle. You need to get food into him. Prayers, Michelle In a message dated 6/17/2006 5:29:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi guys, I posted some of Bandy's troubles under the ringworm topic...He really is sick right now...the worst I have seen since all this started last June..I am hoping he will respond to some of the meds real soon..I don't know what to do for him.. He won't eat and drinks only a little...He can't get up at all...I stood him up but he is too weak to stand alone, cause of his leg hurting him.. I think he must have another infection somewhere or I really just don't know...but something is for sure not right..other than the leg problem... Anyway, please pray for him. Thank you, Kerry and Bandy
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It sounds like if he would just eat, then his PCV and protein would improve. Even though 22 is lower than he was, at least it's still a decent number. I guess I'm just saying, I personally don't think he is anywhere near being ready to cross yet. He just needs help, and that is presenting to be tricky at the moment. I wish I knew something to help you, but I don't, but still, personally, I think keep on trying, don't give up yet. My Spaz was almost gone thrice, but we made it. It seems strange to me that he would have a fever but normal WBC, unless his personal count is usually lower, so this is actually high for him, but still technically within the "normal" range. All I can tell you is that Spaz, when in the hospital for her URI, had a temp that would go up and down for about 8 days, and then finally was able to keep it down. I wish you the best for Bandy! Krishttp://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: Kerry Roach To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 4:25 PM Subject: Re: Please pray for Bandy I took him to the vet today..she is out of town, but in touch with them..They gave him 200cc sub-q fluids, ran a cbc, gave him tagamet injection and Bcomplex injection..His temp was 102.8 which it has been going up and down the since Thurs.. His total protein was 5.8 (not good) PCV was 22 also not good since 3 wks ago is was the highest it had been since he was on procrit last Aug..So she thinks that maybe all his blood work is off due to being a little dehydrated.. He did eat a little when we got home on his own and drank some water..He went to the litter box without falling, but it was all he could do to get back to his bed and fall over on his left side since his leg trouble is on the right..He did walk somewhat better though..but wobbly.. I gave him 3cc of nutrical, too..So they said I need to bring him back tomorrow to be looked at again to see if he is better and for more fluids. I hate to do that, but if he needs any other meds, it is the best way for us to do it..I could give the fluids here, but he might need something else..His WBC was normal...I think they will probably run another PCV and TP on Monday to see if they went up after he is hydrated and hopefully eating. I am going to try the immuno-regulin for sure..It might be what we should have done a long time ago.. Nina, have you bought that from the site you sent to me or do you know someone that has? Just wondering..Please let me know what you all know about this as I want to start that asap. Thanks again to you all, Kerry and Bandy Do you Yahoo!?Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
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I don't think that not eating affects PCV much. Michelle In a message dated 6/17/2006 6:42:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It sounds like if he would just eat, then his PCV and protein would improve. Even though 22 is lower than he was, at least it's still a decent number. I guess I'm just saying, I personally don't think he is anywhere near being ready to cross yet. He just needs help, and that is presenting to be tricky at the moment. I wish I knew something to help you, but I don't, but still, personally, I think keep on trying, don't give up yet. My Spaz was almost gone thrice, but we made it. It seems strange to me that he would have a fever but normal WBC, unless his personal count is usually lower, so this is actually high for him, but still technically within the "normal" range. All I can tell you is that Spaz, when in the hospital for her URI, had a temp that would go up and down for about 8 days, and then finally was able to keep it down. I wish you the best for Bandy!
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But if you the animal isn't getting iron and protein, wouldn't that hinder production? Krishttp://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 6:43 PM Subject: Re: Please pray for Bandy I don't think that not eating affects PCV much. Michelle In a message dated 6/17/2006 6:42:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It sounds like if he would just eat, then his PCV and protein would improve. Even though 22 is lower than he was, at least it's still a decent number. I guess I'm just saying, I personally don't think he is anywhere near being ready to cross yet. He just needs help, and that is presenting to be tricky at the moment. I wish I knew something to help you, but I don't, but still, personally, I think keep on trying, don't give up yet. My Spaz was almost gone thrice, but we made it. It seems strange to me that he would have a fever but normal WBC, unless his personal count is usually lower, so this is actually high for him, but still technically within the "normal" range. All I can tell you is that Spaz, when in the hospital for her URI, had a temp that would go up and down for about 8 days, and then finally was able to keep it down. I wish you the best for Bandy!
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Most feline anemia is not due to low iron. I myself had low iron anemia for a while, and my iron levels were actually low. But I am vegan, and on a medicine that hinders iron absorbtion, and a menstruating woman. Fasting for a few days does not make people get iron anemic, usually. And vets have told me that cats do not tend to get iron anemic. It may be that it affects it somewhat, but it should not make a big difference in their PCV. Michelle In a message dated 6/17/2006 7:01:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But if you the animal isn't getting iron and protein, wouldn't that hinder production? Kris
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I guess we have some conflicting information, etc. But that's what this site is for - to share ideas and try to help. Apparently, they are having a hard time figuring out what is going on w/ Bandy. As far as fungi and steroids, it depends on the fungus. The treatment that was supposed to work had no effect whatsoever, so it was evidently something unusual. Steroids can irritate some fungal infections, but the fungus showed up there and grew without any steroid, so I don't think it "feeds" the fungus. But that is your opinion, which we are all entitled to have. Krishttp://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 7:25 PM Subject: Re: Please pray for Bandy Most feline anemia is not due to low iron. I myself had low iron anemia for a while, and my iron levels were actually low. But I am vegan, and on a medicine that hinders iron absorbtion, and a menstruating woman. Fasting for a few days does not make people get iron anemic, usually. And vets have told me that cats do not tend to get iron anemic. It may be that it affects it somewhat, but it should not make a big difference in their PCV. Michelle In a message dated 6/17/2006 7:01:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But if you the animal isn't getting iron and protein, wouldn't that hinder production? Kris
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These are just things I have been told, not really my opinion as I have no medical training myself. I know medical things we are told are often wrong, including things told to me. Michelle In a message dated 6/17/2006 7:47:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess we have some conflicting information, etc. But that's what this site is for - to share ideas and try to help. Apparently, they are having a hard time figuring out what is going on w/ Bandy. As far as fungi and steroids, it depends on the fungus. The treatment that was supposed to work had no effect whatsoever, so it was evidently something unusual. Steroids can irritate some fungal infections, but the fungus showed up there and grew without any steroid, so I don't think it "feeds" the fungus. But that is your opinion, which we are all entitled to have. Kris
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I'm so sorry little Bandy is sick. I will be praying for you both.
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Kerry, Bandy is in my prayers, as are you. I hope the vet is able to help him and that he bounces back quickly. Poor guy...he's had a tough time of late. :) Wendy --- Kerry Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi guys, > I posted some of Bandy's troubles under the > ringworm topic...He really is sick right now...the > worst I have seen since all this started last > June..I am hoping he will respond to some of the > meds real soon..I don't know what to do for him.. > He won't eat and drinks only a little...He can't > get up at all...I stood him up but he is too weak to > stand alone, cause of his leg hurting him.. I think > he must have another infection somewhere or I really > just don't know...but something is for sure not > right..other than the leg problem... > Anyway, please pray for him. > Thank you, > Kerry and Bandy > > > - > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make > PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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The person I know best is on vacation and not reachable. I have used Kate Bast but it has been several years. www.katebast.com She was very helpful then. I even went to a couple of her workshops. Have you tried feeding Just Born? Dixie loves it at times. I think she knows when she needs the extras that it has. Cats are extremely smart if you listen to them. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 9:04 AM Subject: Re: Please pray for Bandy Hi Kerry, I have used an animal communicator named Morgen Espe. She was wonderful. Her web site is www.theanimalsvoice.com. Yvonne In a message dated 6/17/2006 7:37:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just gave him a little chicken broth after I gave his liquid baytril..I added a little pedialyte, but he gets so stressed.. He did take it ok. He did drink some water earlier, but I don't think it is enough so I am going to try to get some sub-q fluids as soon as the vet opens...I have been up checking on him most of the night..I know he needs something else, but I don't know what..I think he needs a different antibiotic..along with the baytril..cause his temp is still up, too.. Marylyn, I think awhile back Nina sent me something about an Animal communicator, but I don't remember who it was or how to get in touch with them...I have never used one, but have read about them and some of the posts here at the list...Please send me the info if you can... Thank you, Kerry and Bandy No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006
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Iron is needed to produce red cells, along with vitamin B and folic acid. Here is some good info about Feline Anemia: http://www.vin.com/VINDBPub/SearchPB/Proceedings/PR05000/PR00043.htm Here is a page with lots of different links to what's need to build blood when anemic: http://www.google.com/search?q=blood+building+vitamins+and+supplements+needed+for+anemia&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Iron is generally not the main cause of feline anemia but if the iron levels are low as Bailey's were, normal is 60 to 120, Bailey was at 40 when first tested. They may also have problems producing new red cells. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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I guess he is holding his own right now..He did eat a few bites of dry food this morning which is the first time in almost a week..I am feeding him salmon with corn oil which he has always liked..He doesn't eat alot, but he is doing it himself..That makes me feel better...He has gone to his box around 7 times since yesterday and made it back to his bed without my help..He does this when I am away..so I guess he is drinking some water..He did receive another 200cc of sub-q fluids on Sunday...I am going to take him to see the doctor on Tues..as he still has something going on..He almost seems to have a sore throat.. I am trying not to stress him out too much so I have been spreading his treatments out more so he can have more time to rest.. Thanks again for all of your prayers and support.. Kerry and Bandy Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
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Prayers coming for Bandy. The immunoregulin regimen you wrote about is what I used with cc. tKerry Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi guys, I posted some of Bandy's troubles under the ringworm topic...He really is sick right now...the worst I have seen since all this started last June..I am hoping he will respond to some of the meds real soon..I don't know what to do for him.. He won't eat and drinks only a little...He can't get up at all...I stood him up but he is too weak to stand alone, cause of his leg hurting him.. I think he must have another infection somewhere or I really just don't know...but something is for sure not right..other than the leg problem... Anyway, please pray for him. Thank you, Kerry and Bandy Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
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Sending prayers for Bandy, Kerry. I'm glad he's eating, and by himself, even if it's not a huge amount. (It's always so comforting, isn't it, when you know they're getting food inside them.) Kerry - Original Message - From: Kerry Roach To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 4:24 PM Subject: Re: Please pray for Bandy I guess he is holding his own right now..He did eat a few bites of dry food this morning which is the first time in almost a week..I am feeding him salmon with corn oil which he has always liked..He doesn't eat alot, but he is doing it himself..That makes me feel better...He has gone to his box around 7 times since yesterday and made it back to his bed without my help..He does this when I am away..so I guess he is drinking some water..He did receive another 200cc of sub-q fluids on Sunday...I am going to take him to see the doctor on Tues..as he still has something going on..He almost seems to have a sore throat.. I am trying not to stress him out too much so I have been spreading his treatments out more so he can have more time to rest.. Thanks again for all of your prayers and support.. Kerry and Bandy Do you Yahoo!?Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
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I had the immunoregulin given iv by my vet. t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kerry, I bought the Immuno-Regulin from Revival online, and it arrived quickly and without problem, and I think was about $30 for a vial I have used several times and it is still half full. Michelle
