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Oh,, Nina, now you are making me cry... thanks bunch - George and I appreciate it so very much.. hugs Hideyo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Nina's Timmy Hideyo I am praying for George's diagnosis and recovery. My prayers are always with you for courage and strength, but you are already one of the most strong and courageous soldiers I know. You can do this. As I know you will, make sure that George is traumatized as little as possible and keep telling yourself that once this vet visit is over, you will be that much closer to resolving whatever is bothering your sweet George. Square your shoulders, you can do this! Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: >I am so glad that Timmy is doing better and so are the rest of your >babies - >I am planning to take George to the vet this afternoon - please wish me >and George luck - I am going to have them draw a blood without >anesthesia - I just don't want him to go through anesthesia (I am so >afraid of it) - I am hoping that we can put George in a bag (I don't >know what they call it - but a little suck with a zipper - we did it >with Simon) - > >Nina, please pray that I will have a strength to go through with this, >and have a strength to deal with whatever the findings may be with my >George!! We really need it! > >Hugs to you and all your babies >Hideyo >
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Thank you Kerry! Sometimes it's hard to breath. I just have to keep telling myself that all I can do, is all I can do. Thankfully it seems to be enough right now! :) Nina MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: Glad to hear the worst seems over, Nina! May it continue. Hugs to you and your furballs, and wishing Timmy a full recovery, Kerry
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Hideyo I am praying for George's diagnosis and recovery. My prayers are always with you for courage and strength, but you are already one of the most strong and courageous soldiers I know. You can do this. As I know you will, make sure that George is traumatized as little as possible and keep telling yourself that once this vet visit is over, you will be that much closer to resolving whatever is bothering your sweet George. Square your shoulders, you can do this! Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: I am so glad that Timmy is doing better and so are the rest of your babies - I am planning to take George to the vet this afternoon - please wish me and George luck - I am going to have them draw a blood without anesthesia - I just don't want him to go through anesthesia (I am so afraid of it) - I am hoping that we can put George in a bag (I don't know what they call it - but a little suck with a zipper - we did it with Simon) - Nina, please pray that I will have a strength to go through with this, and have a strength to deal with whatever the findings may be with my George!! We really need it! Hugs to you and all your babies Hideyo
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Glad to hear the worst seems over, Nina! May it continue. Hugs to you and your furballs, and wishing Timmy a full recovery, Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Nina's Timmy Hi Hideyo, Thanks for asking. He's doing better. His eyelids are still up, but the rest of the crew seems to be getting over whatever the heck was going around. (Maybe the TF helped?). Congratulations on catching George! Good for you. Isn't it amazing what we can do when we just won't take no for an answer?! I get that way when I'm trapping kittens that have a chance at socialization, I just grit my teeth and do whatever it takes to get the little buggers! I'm also very happy to hear Squeaky has gotten out of 'quarantine' too! Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: > <>Nina, how is Timmy doing now? > Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP is moving our Chicago office to the Hyatt Center, 71 S. Wacker Drive, Chicago, Illinois 60606. Email addresses, telephone numbers, and facsimile numbers remain unchanged. For more information, click the link below or copy / paste the link into the address bar of your Web browser: http://www.mayerbrownrowe.com/chicago/move.asp";>http://www.mayerbrownrowe.com/chicago/move.asp Please Note: Some administrative functions will be located at 230 S. LaSalle, Chicago IL, 60604. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. If any such tax advice is made to any person or party other than to our client to whom the advice is directed, then the advice expressed above is being delivered to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of the transaction or matter discussed or referenced. Each taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Wishing you and George all the best, Hideyo, for this afternoon--he's come s far already! You have enormous reserves of strength Hideyo--it shines clearly in your emails. You will get through this too. Sending you and George zillions of positive vibes~ hugs to you both, Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Nina's Timmy I am so glad that Timmy is doing better and so are the rest of your babies - I am planning to take George to the vet this afternoon - please wish me and George luck - I am going to have them draw a blood without anesthesia - I just don't want him to go through anesthesia (I am so afraid of it) - I am hoping that we can put George in a bag (I don't know what they call it - but a little suck with a zipper - we did it with Simon) - Nina, please pray that I will have a strength to go through with this, and have a strength to deal with whatever the findings may be with my George!! We really need it! Hugs to you and all your babies Hideyo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:50 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Nina's Timmy Hi Hideyo, Thanks for asking. He's doing better. His eyelids are still up, but the rest of the crew seems to be getting over whatever the heck was going around. (Maybe the TF helped?). Congratulations on catching George! Good for you. Isn't it amazing what we can do when we just won't take no for an answer?! I get that way when I'm trapping kittens that have a chance at socialization, I just grit my teeth and do whatever it takes to get the little buggers! I'm also very happy to hear Squeaky has gotten out of 'quarantine' too! Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: > <>Nina, how is Timmy doing now? > Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP is moving our Chicago office to the Hyatt Center, 71 S. Wacker Drive, Chicago, Illinois 60606. Email addresses, telephone numbers, and facsimile numbers remain unchanged. For more information, click the link below or copy / paste the link into the address bar of your Web browser: http://www.mayerbrownrowe.com/chicago/move.asp";>http://www.mayerbrownrowe.com/chicago/move.asp Please Note: Some administrative functions will be located at 230 S. LaSalle, Chicago IL, 60604. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. If any such tax advice is made to any person or party other than to our client to whom the advice is directed, then the advice expressed above is being delivered to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of the transaction or matter discussed or referenced. Each taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Nina's Timmy
I am so glad that Timmy is doing better and so are the rest of your babies - I am planning to take George to the vet this afternoon - please wish me and George luck - I am going to have them draw a blood without anesthesia - I just don't want him to go through anesthesia (I am so afraid of it) - I am hoping that we can put George in a bag (I don't know what they call it - but a little suck with a zipper - we did it with Simon) - Nina, please pray that I will have a strength to go through with this, and have a strength to deal with whatever the findings may be with my George!! We really need it! Hugs to you and all your babies Hideyo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:50 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Nina's Timmy Hi Hideyo, Thanks for asking. He's doing better. His eyelids are still up, but the rest of the crew seems to be getting over whatever the heck was going around. (Maybe the TF helped?). Congratulations on catching George! Good for you. Isn't it amazing what we can do when we just won't take no for an answer?! I get that way when I'm trapping kittens that have a chance at socialization, I just grit my teeth and do whatever it takes to get the little buggers! I'm also very happy to hear Squeaky has gotten out of 'quarantine' too! Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: > <>Nina, how is Timmy doing now? >
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Hi Hideyo, Thanks for asking. He's doing better. His eyelids are still up, but the rest of the crew seems to be getting over whatever the heck was going around. (Maybe the TF helped?). Congratulations on catching George! Good for you. Isn't it amazing what we can do when we just won't take no for an answer?! I get that way when I'm trapping kittens that have a chance at socialization, I just grit my teeth and do whatever it takes to get the little buggers! I'm also very happy to hear Squeaky has gotten out of 'quarantine' too! Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: <>Nina, how is Timmy doing now?
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Nina, how is Timmy doing now? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 10:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Nina's Timmy Hi Nina, I'm glad Grace is feeling better. I don't know about Timmy. If the sneezing continues I'd go ahead and take him in. If he tests positive you know you need to treat aggressively. I lost my first positive to an upper respiratory infection that quickly turned to herpes and almost pneumonia.. t Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Everyone, I just mentioned my Timmy to Michelle L. He's the one that miraculously tested negative, (remember the big debate over PCR testing to determine if FeLV is sequestered in bone marrow?). Anyway, as you know, my household and feral colony has been fighting some sort of bug lately. Tim had some sneezing and congestion and his third eyelids have been up for over a week now. I'm starting to get concerned. I should probably take him in to be tested while he's exhibiting symptoms, (because he's more likely to show positive then), but when it comes right down to it I'm chicken about what I'll learn. He seems perfectly healthy, except for his eyes, well he's a bit more skittish, but he can't see as well! I have him on IA and TF when I can get him to eat it. Do you think I should worry? Do you think I should have him tested? I'm trying to figure out exactly what good it will do me to know for sure he's positive, (I'll never know for sure he's truly negative). My first bottle baby, Queen Ursula, had nictating membranes for a couple months at one point. The vets were never able to tell me why. An AC acquaintance told me it was because she didn't want to see how crowded the house was with cats at the time. Who knows, she may have been right. The condition went away without any other indications ever presenting themselves. Grace is doing much better. She's still sleeping more than usual, but yesterday she was very naughty, so I take that as a good sign. When she starts beating up Kimba again, I'll know she's made a full recovery. Thanks, Nina
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Hi Nina, I'm glad Grace is feeling better. I don't know about Timmy. If the sneezing continues I'd go ahead and take him in. If he tests positive you know you need to treat aggressively. I lost my first positive to an upper respiratory infection that quickly turned to herpes and almost pneumonia.. tNina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Everyone,I just mentioned my Timmy to Michelle L. He's the one that miraculously tested negative, (remember the big debate over PCR testing to determine if FeLV is sequestered in bone marrow?). Anyway, as you know, my household and feral colony has been fighting some sort of bug lately. Tim had some sneezing and congestion and his third eyelids have been up for over a week now. I'm starting to get concerned. I should probably take him in to be tested while he's exhibiting symptoms, (because he's more likely to show positive then), but when it comes right down to it I'm chicken about what I'll learn. He seems perfectly healthy, except for his eyes, well he's a bit more skittish, but he can't see as well! I have him on IA and TF when I can get him to eat it. Do you think I should worry? Do you think I should have him tested? I'm trying to figure out exactly what good it will do me to know for sure he's positive, (I'll never know for sure he's truly negative). My first bottle baby, Queen Ursula, had nictating membranes for a couple months at one point. The vets were never able to tell me why. An AC acquaintance told me it was because she didn't want to see how crowded the house was with cats at the time. Who knows, she may have been right. The condition went away without any other indications ever presenting themselves.Grace is doing much better. She's still sleeping more than usual, but yesterday she was very naughty, so I take that as a good sign. When she starts beating up Kimba again, I'll know she's made a full recovery.Thanks,Nina
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I am glad, Nina - I was worried that I would have confused you even more - after sending an email, I did remember talking to Jasmine Indra (Sally's AC) about Carl's condition - and Jasmine was able to check Carls conditions - based on "Viral related", "organ related" (and can't remember other things) - anyway, she thought Carl was a bit weak on Viral side and he ended up having FIV - again, I don't know if you want to go through it at all, but just wanted to share that for any future needs - How is Timmy doing? Have you considered giving him some homeopathic remedy? Sulphur might help - (it always have worked on Ruby-E who has reoccurance of URI a couple of times a year - she is so feral that I can't give her any medicine at all - but I pour sulphur into the water bowl - and she recovers like a miracle - Anyway, please keep me posted, and I will continue to pray Timmy will only get better - Loves and hugs to all your babies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 5:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Nina's Timmy Hideyo, You are absolutely right, it doesn't really matter much what the test results say, I'll take care of him the best I know how anyway. You do help, you always do. Just knowing that you're out there helps. Sometimes I worry about you, you care about so many and worry so much, I'm afraid one day you'll just explode from the pressure. I'm very happy to hear that you've decided to stop being concerned with Squeekie's test results. Living in the moment and caring for our angels with love is the best we can do, and what we should do. Your sister's right about the fine line between negative and positive. Look at the trouble I've had with Gypsy. When she tested negative after being exposed at such a young age to my FeLVs I was so relieved. I couldn't have known about the battle we were about to face with IBD! You're such a treasure Hideyo, thanks, Nina
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Yeah for Gypsy..I am so glad Nina ;-)) What a good mommy you are Cherie"MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wonderful news about Gypsy!!Well done (and extra treats for) Gypsy!!-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NinaSent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:50 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Nina's TimmyGypsy should be congratulated too! She's finally started to put on weight and for the first time, I don't feel like I'm on death-watch withher anymore. Nina Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP is moving our Chicago office to the Hyatt Center, 71 S. Wacker Drive, Chicago, Illinois 60606. Email addresses, telephone numbers, and facsimile numbers remain unchanged. For more information, click the link below or copy / paste the link into the address bar of your Web browser: http://www.mayerbrownrowe.com/chicago/move.asp Please Note: Some administrative functions will be located at 230 S. LaSalle, Chicago IL, 60604. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Have a purrfect day Cherie
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Wonderful news about Gypsy!! Well done (and extra treats for) Gypsy!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Nina's Timmy Gypsy should be congratulated too! She's finally started to put on weight and for the first time, I don't feel like I'm on death-watch with her anymore. Nina Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP is moving our Chicago office to the Hyatt Center, 71 S. Wacker Drive, Chicago, Illinois 60606. Email addresses, telephone numbers, and facsimile numbers remain unchanged. For more information, click the link below or copy / paste the link into the address bar of your Web browser: http://www.mayerbrownrowe.com/chicago/move.asp";>http://www.mayerbrownrowe.com/chicago/move.asp Please Note: Some administrative functions will be located at 230 S. LaSalle, Chicago IL, 60604. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Nina So glad to hear Grace is doing better. You must be so (albeit cautiously) relieved. Re Timmy, you're already giving him interferon and Transfer Factor, and excellent diet, so I'm not sure either what the benefit of testing for FeLV would be. (I totally understand your hesitation to test--I'm taking one of my negs for his routine 6-month physical this weekend, and the tech/receptionist, who knows I have a pos. brood, was encouraging me to also do the FeLV test on him. I turned it down. It's a waste of $$ that can be better spent on other kitty needs.) It sounds like they all have a URI? I would do anything I could to nip that in the bud--which I'm sure you're doing anyway. Continuing to send healing vibes for your brood, and visualizing Grace beating up Kimba :>) Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 5:50 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Nina's Timmy Hi Everyone, I just mentioned my Timmy to Michelle L. He's the one that miraculously tested negative, (remember the big debate over PCR testing to determine if FeLV is sequestered in bone marrow?). Anyway, as you know, my household and feral colony has been fighting some sort of bug lately. Tim had some sneezing and congestion and his third eyelids have been up for over a week now. I'm starting to get concerned. I should probably take him in to be tested while he's exhibiting symptoms, (because he's more likely to show positive then), but when it comes right down to it I'm chicken about what I'll learn. He seems perfectly healthy, except for his eyes, well he's a bit more skittish, but he can't see as well! I have him on IA and TF when I can get him to eat it. Do you think I should worry? Do you think I should have him tested? I'm trying to figure out exactly what good it will do me to know for sure he's positive, (I'll never know for sure he's truly negative). My first bottle baby, Queen Ursula, had nictating membranes for a couple months at one point. The vets were never able to tell me why. An AC acquaintance told me it was because she didn't want to see how crowded the house was with cats at the time. Who knows, she may have been right. The condition went away without any other indications ever presenting themselves. Grace is doing much better. She's still sleeping more than usual, but yesterday she was very naughty, so I take that as a good sign. When she starts beating up Kimba again, I'll know she's made a full recovery. Thanks, Nina Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP is moving our Chicago office to the Hyatt Center, 71 S. Wacker Drive, Chicago, Illinois 60606. Email addresses, telephone numbers, and facsimile numbers remain unchanged. For more information, click the link below or copy / paste the link into the address bar of your Web browser: http://www.mayerbrownrowe.com/chicago/move.asp";>http://www.mayerbrownrowe.com/chicago/move.asp Please Note: Some administrative functions will be located at 230 S. LaSalle, Chicago IL, 60604. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Gypsy should be congratulated too! She's finally started to put on weight and for the first time, I don't feel like I'm on death-watch with her anymore. Nina
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Hideyo, You are absolutely right, it doesn't really matter much what the test results say, I'll take care of him the best I know how anyway. You do help, you always do. Just knowing that you're out there helps. Sometimes I worry about you, you care about so many and worry so much, I'm afraid one day you'll just explode from the pressure. I'm very happy to hear that you've decided to stop being concerned with Squeekie's test results. Living in the moment and caring for our angels with love is the best we can do, and what we should do. Your sister's right about the fine line between negative and positive. Look at the trouble I've had with Gypsy. When she tested negative after being exposed at such a young age to my FeLVs I was so relieved. I couldn't have known about the battle we were about to face with IBD! You're such a treasure Hideyo, thanks, Nina
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I am sorry - I meant to say - Grace - , Nina.. I guess I am too familiar with your kitties now -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 5:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Nina's Timmy Hi, Nina, I am sorry that Timmy is having sneezing and congestion - but please don't jump into the conclusion that he is going to be positive - I understand that their eye lids shows when they don't feel in general and sounds like he has some type of bug like FVR? - I can never remember the abbreviation) which can cause lots of cold like symptoms - a couple of my kitties are sneezing at my house, too. And my colleague was just telling me that her cat had really bad sneezing and congestions, and before you knew the rest of the kitties start sneezing, too. But it was just temporary - Tim might have some fever, too - have you checked his temperature? But even if he does, again it can be caused by some bug which many many of my kitties have had in the past(whenever they had high fever, I immediately went to the place "oh no - they have FIP - they are going to die! - and all of them got better in a couple of weeks - but that's how I react...) I so completely understand your debate about doing the blood test - I am trying to put myself in your shoe right now to see what I would do - I am very compulsive when coming to finding out test results - I put too much weight on these things - my sister who lives in Japan (who is actually psychic in a confidential sort of way - once told me when I found out that my Riki tested positive for FIV and I was all freaking out because I did not know what to do and she oddly told me that, well, positives and negatives have such a thin wall between - positives can be negative and negative can be positive, so don't think about it too much. I did not know what she meant by it - but a couple of years later, I did - because Riki ended up being negative - and others who I thought negatives ended up being positives on other virus - she told me not to worry about those things too much, but rather focus on how they are doing - I guess what I am saying that you are going to take care of Timmy exactly the same way as you would whether he is negative or positive - if somehow it's going to help you finding out the test result in anyway, I don' think it's bad to find out the test result - but again, positive can mean negative, too - right? Sorry, Nina, I might not be helping here - why don't you wait to see how he does for the next couple of days and see if you can help him get rid of the condition?? Whatever it is - time will tell - and also whatever you will face, nothing is going to be the end of the world - you can deal with it, and we are all here for you, Nina - Honestly, I am so sick and tired of being controlled by the test result - I know it's important for obvious reasons - but my Squeekie has been tested negatives and positives and equivocal on FIV for the past three months - back and forth - just don't know what to think of it - she is so perfectly healthy - so I am almost not going to think about it - Regardless, I am praying that Timmy is going to get better so that his mama won't have to worry about at all - And I am so glad that Gypsy is doing better!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:50 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Nina's Timmy Hi Everyone, I just mentioned my Timmy to Michelle L. He's the one that miraculously tested negative, (remember the big debate over PCR testing to determine if FeLV is sequestered in bone marrow?). Anyway, as you know, my household and feral colony has been fighting some sort of bug lately. Tim had some sneezing and congestion and his third eyelids have been up for over a week now. I'm starting to get concerned. I should probably take him in to be tested while he's exhibiting symptoms, (because he's more likely to show positive then), but when it comes right down to it I'm chicken about what I'll learn. He seems perfectly healthy, except for his eyes, well he's a bit more skittish, but he can't see as well! I have him on IA and TF when I can get him to eat it. Do you think I should worry? Do you think I should have him tested? I'm trying to figure out exactly what good it will do me to know for sure he's positive, (I'll never know for sure he's truly negative). My first bottle baby, Queen Ursula, had nictating membranes for a couple months at one point. The vets were never able to tell me why. An AC acquaintance told me it was because she didn't want to see how crowded the house was with cats at the time. Who knows, she may have been right. The condition went
RE: Nina's Timmy
Hi, Nina, I am sorry that Timmy is having sneezing and congestion - but please don't jump into the conclusion that he is going to be positive - I understand that their eye lids shows when they don't feel in general and sounds like he has some type of bug like FVR? - I can never remember the abbreviation) which can cause lots of cold like symptoms - a couple of my kitties are sneezing at my house, too. And my colleague was just telling me that her cat had really bad sneezing and congestions, and before you knew the rest of the kitties start sneezing, too. But it was just temporary - Tim might have some fever, too - have you checked his temperature? But even if he does, again it can be caused by some bug which many many of my kitties have had in the past(whenever they had high fever, I immediately went to the place "oh no - they have FIP - they are going to die! - and all of them got better in a couple of weeks - but that's how I react...) I so completely understand your debate about doing the blood test - I am trying to put myself in your shoe right now to see what I would do - I am very compulsive when coming to finding out test results - I put too much weight on these things - my sister who lives in Japan (who is actually psychic in a confidential sort of way - once told me when I found out that my Riki tested positive for FIV and I was all freaking out because I did not know what to do and she oddly told me that, well, positives and negatives have such a thin wall between - positives can be negative and negative can be positive, so don't think about it too much. I did not know what she meant by it - but a couple of years later, I did - because Riki ended up being negative - and others who I thought negatives ended up being positives on other virus - she told me not to worry about those things too much, but rather focus on how they are doing - I guess what I am saying that you are going to take care of Timmy exactly the same way as you would whether he is negative or positive - if somehow it's going to help you finding out the test result in anyway, I don' think it's bad to find out the test result - but again, positive can mean negative, too - right? Sorry, Nina, I might not be helping here - why don't you wait to see how he does for the next couple of days and see if you can help him get rid of the condition?? Whatever it is - time will tell - and also whatever you will face, nothing is going to be the end of the world - you can deal with it, and we are all here for you, Nina - Honestly, I am so sick and tired of being controlled by the test result - I know it's important for obvious reasons - but my Squeekie has been tested negatives and positives and equivocal on FIV for the past three months - back and forth - just don't know what to think of it - she is so perfectly healthy - so I am almost not going to think about it - Regardless, I am praying that Timmy is going to get better so that his mama won't have to worry about at all - And I am so glad that Gypsy is doing better!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:50 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Nina's Timmy Hi Everyone, I just mentioned my Timmy to Michelle L. He's the one that miraculously tested negative, (remember the big debate over PCR testing to determine if FeLV is sequestered in bone marrow?). Anyway, as you know, my household and feral colony has been fighting some sort of bug lately. Tim had some sneezing and congestion and his third eyelids have been up for over a week now. I'm starting to get concerned. I should probably take him in to be tested while he's exhibiting symptoms, (because he's more likely to show positive then), but when it comes right down to it I'm chicken about what I'll learn. He seems perfectly healthy, except for his eyes, well he's a bit more skittish, but he can't see as well! I have him on IA and TF when I can get him to eat it. Do you think I should worry? Do you think I should have him tested? I'm trying to figure out exactly what good it will do me to know for sure he's positive, (I'll never know for sure he's truly negative). My first bottle baby, Queen Ursula, had nictating membranes for a couple months at one point. The vets were never able to tell me why. An AC acquaintance told me it was because she didn't want to see how crowded the house was with cats at the time. Who knows, she may have been right. The condition went away without any other indications ever presenting themselves. Grace is doing much better. She's still sleeping more than usual, but yesterday she was very naughty, so I take that as a good sign. When she starts beating up Kimba again, I'll know she's made a full recovery. Thanks, Nina