RE: Slinky Update: Good News

2006-08-03 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane



Slinky is a GREAT boy. Congratulations on such a good 
vet visit.

Diane R.


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marissa 
JohnsonSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 7:13 PMTo: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Slinky Update: Good 
News

Hi again all. Just thought I'd let you know that all is well with 
Slinky. I went up to get his meds today and decided to take him with to 
have them weigh him. He's actually gained about 1/2 a pound, maybe a 
little more since I was last there a week and a half ago. And the nurse 
looked at him and said he looked perfect. :) She also cleaned out 
his ears (which were quitegoopy since I've been giving him mitricide). 
The doctor even came out and talked with me a bit (he didn't think the 
chemicals used for the roaches would be a problem for him since they're not for 
other cats...said they tend not to affect mammals much). He also gave him 
the first of the 2 Drontal tablets so I wouldn't have to try to get him to take 
it. So that was helpful!!!

My baby did GREAT. Didn't even make much noise in the car and didn't 
flinch at all when they cleaned his ears and gave him the pill. Such a 
good boy!!!

I told both the nurse and the vet about this group so that if they have 
others who have positive cats, they can pass on the info. The nurse was 
thrilled...and shocked to hear that some vets recommend immediate 
euthanasia. The doctor was already familiar with the site. He said 
that there's really nothing you can do to boost his immune system, but that 
nothing I did would hurt him (not a great response, but ok). But he kept 
reiterating that he has every chance of having a normal life expectancy and 
staying healthy...or of testing negative in a few months. So that was 
helpful! I told him I was going to keep up with the natural food, 
supplements, etc. so that at least I'd feel like I was doing something to help 
him. 

Anyway...just thought I'd share. Thanks for all your help with trying 
to figure out his weight and "bonyness" issues. I appreciate it!!! 


MJ


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RE: Slinky Update: Good News

2006-08-03 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message




Great news about Slinky!
Re: He said that there's 
really nothing you can do to boost his immune system, 
I guess if he's right what we're doing is 
trying to make sure it's not further depressed?


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On Behalf Of Marissa JohnsonSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 
7:13 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Slinky 
Update: Good News
Hi again all. Just thought I'd let you know that all is well with 
Slinky. I went up to get his meds today and decided to take him with to 
have them weigh him. He's actually gained about 1/2 a pound, maybe a 
little more since I was last there a week and a half ago. And the nurse 
looked at him and said he looked perfect. :) She also cleaned out 
his ears (which were quitegoopy since I've been giving him mitricide). 
The doctor even came out and talked with me a bit (he didn't think the 
chemicals used for the roaches would be a problem for him since they're not for 
other cats...said they tend not to affect mammals much). He also gave him 
the first of the 2 Drontal tablets so I wouldn't have to try to get him to take 
it. So that was helpful!!!

My baby did GREAT. Didn't even make much noise in the car and didn't 
flinch at all when they cleaned his ears and gave him the pill. Such a 
good boy!!!

I told both the nurse and the vet about this group so that if they have 
others who have positive cats, they can pass on the info. The nurse was 
thrilled...and shocked to hear that some vets recommend immediate 
euthanasia. The doctor was already familiar with the site. He said 
that there's really nothing you can do to boost his immune system, but that 
nothing I did would hurt him (not a great response, but ok). But he kept 
reiterating that he has every chance of having a normal life expectancy and 
staying healthy...or of testing negative in a few months. So that was 
helpful! I told him I was going to keep up with the natural food, 
supplements, etc. so that at least I'd feel like I was doing something to help 
him. 

Anyway...just thought I'd share. Thanks for all your help with trying 
to figure out his weight and "bonyness" issues. I appreciate it!!! 


MJ


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Re: Slinky Update: Good News (boosting the immune system)

2006-08-03 Thread Nina




Of course you can boost the immune system! What he means is there is
nothing that he believes will boost the immune system.
Which is still a ludicrous statement. What about the use of immune
boosters for human cancer patients? What about Vita supplements??
What's that? A multi million dollar hoax, built on the placebo
effect?? Anytime I've asked a specialist, esp a surgeon about
supplements and immune boosters, their eyes kind of glaze over. That's
one of the problems with the medical world vs. the "real" world. They
are very reluctant to give credence to anything that has not been
clinically proven. They aren't that interested, usually, in anequdotal
success stories. They want hard, validated proof that something works
before they feel comfortable recommending it to others, (and very few
are willing to fund costly studies unless there's the hope of a pot of
gold sitting at the end of it). The best I can get out of most of them
is "Well, I guess it couldn't hurt". How many times do we have to
prove the "experts" wrong before we stop listening to them nay say?
Nina

MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:

  
  Message
  
  
  Great news about Slinky!
  Re: He said that
there's really nothing you can do to boost his immune system, 
  I guess if he's right what
we're doing is trying to make sure it's not further depressed?
  





Re: Slinky Update: Good News (boosting the immune system)

2006-08-03 Thread Marissa Johnson
Yep, Nina. That's exactly what he meant! And that's exactly what I got out of him: "Nothing you do will hurt him." I completely agree with you. We know about the positive effects of supplements and vitamins for humans (otherwise why would OB's tell pregnant women to take PRENATAL vitamins, why did my dr. tell me to take folic acid), so why would it be so different for other animals? But...I guess what he doesn't believe won't hurt him! lol Actually, though, it can. But at least he does believe he could throw it off or live a full and healthy life even with a pos test. And I'm certainly not going to listen to him...I believe diet and sups, etc. will help my Slink. It is frustrating though!!!MarissaNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Of course
 you can boost the immune system! What he means is there is nothing that he believes will boost the immune system. Which is still a ludicrous statement. What about the use of immune boosters for human cancer patients? What about Vita supplements?? What's that? A multi million dollar hoax, built on the placebo effect?? Anytime I've asked a specialist, esp a surgeon about supplements and immune boosters, their eyes kind of glaze over. That's one of the problems with the medical world vs. the "real" world. They are very reluctant to give credence to anything that has not been clinically proven. They aren't that interested, usually, in anequdotal success stories. They want hard, validated proof that something works before they feel comfortable recommending it to others, (and very few are willing to fund costly studies unless there's the hope of a pot of gold sitting at the end of it).
 The best I can get out of most of them is "Well, I guess it couldn't hurt". How many times do we have to prove the "experts" wrong before we stop listening to them nay say?NinaMacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: Great news about Slinky!  Re: He said that there's really nothing you can do to boost his immune system,   I guess if he's right what we're doing is trying to make sure it's not further depressed? 
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RE: Slinky Update: Good News (boosting the immune system)

2006-08-03 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message




Thanks 
Nina!

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On Behalf Of NinaSent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 11:33 
AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Slinky 
Update: Good News (boosting the immune system)Of course you 
can boost the immune system! What he means is there is nothing that 
he believes will boost the immune system. Which is still a 
ludicrous statement. What about the use of immune boosters for human 
cancer patients? What about Vita supplements?? What's 
that? A multi million dollar hoax, built on the placebo effect?? 
Anytime I've asked a specialist, esp a surgeon about supplements and immune 
boosters, their eyes kind of glaze over. That's one of the problems with 
the medical world vs. the "real" world. They are very reluctant to give 
credence to anything that has not been clinically proven. They aren't that 
interested, usually, in anequdotal success stories. They want hard, 
validated proof that something works before they feel comfortable recommending 
it to others, (and very few are willing to fund costly studies unless there's 
the hope of a pot of gold sitting at the end of it). The best I can get 
out of most of them is "Well, I guess it couldn't hurt". How many times do 
we have to prove the "experts" wrong before we stop listening to them nay 
say?NinaMacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: 

  
  
  Great news about Slinky!
  Re: He said that there's 
  really nothing you can do to boost his immune system, 
  I guess if he's right what we're doing is 
  trying to make sure it's not further 
depressed?

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RE: Slinky Update: Good News

2006-08-03 Thread wendy
Great news MJ!  Good for Slinky!  About your vet's
immunity statment: tell that vet I asked if he'd
personally do an experiment with L-lyine on some
symptomatic feline herpes kitties (test group vs.
non-test group) and then tell me that you can't boost
their immune systems!  If you can boost our immune
systems, why couldn't you boost an animal's?  Isn't
that what different HIV+ patients are doing when they
take anti-virals and other meds???  I can't believe he
made that statment.  Sorry about the vent.  Again, so
happy for Slinky!

:)
Wendy

 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Marissa
 Johnson
 Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 7:13 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Slinky Update: Good News
 
 
 Hi again all.  Just thought I'd let you know that
 all is well with
 Slinky.  I went up to get his meds today and decided
 to take him with to
 have them weigh him.  He's actually gained about 1/2
 a pound, maybe a
 little more since I was last there a week and a half
 ago.  And the nurse
 looked at him and said he looked perfect.  :)  She
 also cleaned out his
 ears (which were quite goopy since I've been giving
 him mitricide).  The
 doctor even came out and talked with me a bit (he
 didn't think the
 chemicals used for the roaches would be a problem
 for him since they're
 not for other cats...said they tend not to affect
 mammals much).  He
 also gave him the first of the 2 Drontal tablets so
 I wouldn't have to
 try to get him to take it.  So that was helpful!!!
  
 My baby did GREAT.  Didn't even make much noise in
 the car and didn't
 flinch at all when they cleaned his ears and gave
 him the pill.  Such a
 good boy!!!
  
 I told both the nurse and the vet about this group
 so that if they have
 others who have positive cats, they can pass on the
 info.  The nurse was
 thrilled...and shocked to hear that some vets
 recommend immediate
 euthanasia.  The doctor was already familiar with
 the site.  He said
 that there's really nothing you can do to boost his
 immune system, but
 that nothing I did would hurt him (not a great
 response, but ok).  But
 he kept reiterating that he has every chance of
 having a normal life
 expectancy and staying healthy...or of testing
 negative in a few months.
 So that was helpful!  I told him I was going to keep
 up with the natural
 food, supplements, etc. so that at least I'd feel
 like I was doing
 something to help him.  
  
 Anyway...just thought I'd share.  Thanks for all
 your help with trying
 to figure out his weight and bonyness issues.  I
 appreciate it!!!  
  
 MJ
 
 
 
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Re: Slinky Update: Good News

2006-08-02 Thread ETrent




This is such good news! Thank you for the update. Please give 
Slinky a big kitty kiss from me and the kids.

elizabeth



In a message dated 8/2/2006 5:13:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Hi again all. Just thought I'd let you know that all is well with 
  Slinky. I went up to get his meds today and decided to take him with to 
  have them weigh him. He's actually gained about 1/2 a pound, maybe a 
  little more since I was last there a week and a half ago. And the nurse 
  looked at him and said he looked perfect. :) She also cleaned out 
  his ears (which were quitegoopy since I've been giving him mitricide). 
  The doctor even came out and talked with me a bit (he didn't think the 
  chemicals used for the roaches would be a problem for him since they're not 
  for other cats...said they tend not to affect mammals much). He also 
  gave him the first of the 2 Drontal tablets so I wouldn't have to try to get 
  him to take it. So that was helpful!!!
  
  My baby did GREAT. Didn't even make much noise in the car and 
  didn't flinch at all when they cleaned his ears and gave him the pill. 
  Such a good boy!!!
  
  I told both the nurse and the vet about this group so that if they have 
  others who have positive cats, they can pass on the info. The nurse was 
  thrilled...and shocked to hear that some vets recommend immediate 
  euthanasia. The doctor was already familiar with the site. He said 
  that there's really nothing you can do to boost his immune system, but that 
  nothing I did would hurt him (not a great response, but ok). But he kept 
  reiterating that he has every chance of having a normal life expectancy and 
  staying healthy...or of testing negative in a few months. So that was 
  helpful! I told him I was going to keep up with the natural food, 
  supplements, etc. so that at least I'd feel like I was doing something to help 
  him. 
  
  Anyway...just thought I'd share. Thanks for all your help with 
  trying to figure out his weight and "bonyness" issues. I appreciate 
  it!!! 
  
  MJ