Re: Spencer update
Nina,Thinking of you and Spencer.tNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well we just got back from the vet. The first set of xrays showed fluid build up around his lungs and made it hard to see what was going on with his organs or if they could detect any masses. So they drained the fluid and did another set of xrays. They also gave him oxygen and subq fluids, (the subqs I could have done at home, but figured it would be better to not have to put him through any added stress after we did get home). He actually seems hydrated enough with good color to his gums, but we figured since he hasn't been eating it couldn't hurt. Bottom line is that we don't know much more than that he had fluid build up that was making it hard to breath, we don't know why and the xrays weren't definitive enough for the doctor on duty to be able to tell anything. (I got a lot of well, it could be, but maybe nots). At least he feels better as I'm writing this, he even ate a little bit for me when we got home. They wanted to keep him overnight, but I said no thank you. He's better off at home where he'll be more comfortable. So here I sit, a good deal poorer, with no answers that will help him. They wanted to send in the fluid to be analyzed, but the vet warned me that they might not be able to tell anything from it. Since that would have been an extra $200 bucks, I told them to hold on to it and let me talk to his regular Internist about it in the morning. We're over $1400 as it is and no closer to helping him get well then before we started. Extremely big sigh.Nina
Re: Spencer update
I got a lump in my throat reading your post. I don't know what to say, but I am thinking about you and Spencer. And, I am hoping that he will come home if that is what he wants.GinaNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have awful news. Spencer has gone missing. It's completely my fault, I don't know what I was thinking. I left for appointments this morning and deliberately left the door open for the dogs and cats. I've been doing this forever, but I knew Spencer was very sick, I know that cats can decide to find a quiet place to pass on their own, yet I left the door open. In the six months that Spencer has been with us he rarely goes outside and when he does it's to keep me company in the yard. Whenever I call to him, he comes running like a puppy. I can only fear the worst. I talked with a couple of ACs and they said that he was looking for quiet and solitude, things that are in very short supply around this madhouse. I've been combing the bushes and going through the neighbor's yards all day. If he's still moving, if he wants to, I'm praying that he'll come home. It even went through my mind to shut him up before I left this morning, but I didn't think he'd be moving off his bed much and I don't know, I didn't really process this thought, but I didn't want him to feel like a prisoner either. He's been so good through his illness. The vets last night kept commenting about how sweet he was, I just hated to force anything on him. I just wanted to let you all know. I can't think of a punishment graver than not knowing what happened to him. I'm doing my best to not think of this in terms of punishment at all, just what is. It's too late to close the barn door now. I've gone through the frantic mode of finding him gone, been crying as I search, right now I'm feeling really numb. When I called Bruce at work to tell him, he asked me why I would want to have forced him to die in the house with us if that's not what he wanted. I could only come up with selfish answers for that one. The hardest part of all this is that I may never know. I'm still praying that he walks in the door.Feeling repentant and very very sad,NinaPlease visitmy Tigger Tales site! On the fundraising page aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1ยข/min.
RE: Spencer update
Nina, I am so sorry that Spencer is missing. I hope you find him, one way or another. (My Phoebe was a big hider all her life. When I first got her she went missing for 3 days in my messy apartment, which I turned upside down and concluded that somehow she must have slipped out.I finally found her by accident in the closet, lying along the coat hanger shoulders behind the rod, with a paw looped over it. Stubborn little thing hadn't even come out to eat or pee.) I can't even imagine what you must be feeling now. Please keep us posted. Diane R. This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Re: Spencer update
Nina, he is probably hiding somewhere very close to the house. But he will probably also be hard to find if he does not want to be found. Bruce is right, you know. I understand your franticness, and I would feel exactly the same way. But what you really did, objectively, was give Spencer the choice of going where he wanted to go. If he does pass outside, it may be the most peaceful way for him to go. It is what they want, really. Still, I hope you find him. Mostly for you, I guess. I will be thinking and praying for both of you. Michelle
Re: Spencer update
Nina, It's the not knowing that is the hardest part! I am so sorry you (and Spencer) are going through this. I feel like there is nothing I can do to make you feel better, but do I hope that knowing that we are all out here with our stomach's in knots for you and that we are there in spirit with you gives you a little peace of mind. Maggie
Re: Spencer update
Ah Nina, please do not feel repentant or sad, Spencer has found the energy to communicate directly and compassionately to you. If there is one thing that we can not lose it is faith in these cats to know life in a way that is much simpler and purer than we can. You have been open to his desires and loving to his needs and passionate about leading him where you believe that he wants to go. Now, with the strength from who knows where, he is again leading. Don't stop looking, but be gentle and understanding in your efforts. I often look back at situations and am baffled by something that I said/did, or didn't say/do, that was really out of character. I reflect on how there was a little voice saying, this is weird, or the absence of the little voice that would normally be speaking, but the outcome, couldn't have happened unless I acted as I had. I feel in these circumstances that these are the times that something greater has stepped in. Mitichlorians (from Star Wars - the force), God, fate, chance, I don't know the word for it, but it happens. Something that even in ourselves can not be explained as to why we did something, I believe to have been influenced by something larger. You were open to Spencer communicating with you. Nina, she of continual words of love and advice and understanding to us, he has. I so hope that this doesn't seem harsh. I am crying now writing it to you, I am all on board with fist shaking and wanting to be selfish and wanting to be selfish and wanting to be selfish and not let them go. You have helped me so much through my recent time of pain, I just want to send the biggest hug through the computer to you, put my hands on your shoulders and just let you know that you have not acted for a second in any way that wasn't the kindest, most loving, and compassionatetowards Spencer, nor are you nowin your tears and your searching, and to let you know that he knows that. You took him to the vet for momentary pain to make things better, he would never put you through momentary pain either unless it was to eventually make things better. He would NEVER want you to feel guilt for letting him choose what to do next. It's true, you don't know what is happening with him, but on a deeper level, you do know. And you know that whatever occurs, he is with you and he is okay. He is stronger than we are and he is thanking you for everything. And we don't know what will happen. A quiet place also means healing. The vet wasn't able to determine what was happening in him. Maybe Spencer knows and knows that he needs to be alone for a while to heal. I have heard of this happening. Every time I've gone to force feed one of mine, I think of a story that a friend told me of a cat she owned decades ago that didn't eat for 5 days. This was before everyone knew to force feed. Her cat secluded herself, ran a fever, didn't eat until she came out of the fast, the fever broken, and started to chow down. Even in a situation that we know that we know, before we were so certain, life still acted as it will. Don't lose faith in your friend, and don't lose faith in yourself. I hope that all is well with you both. Strong mitichlorian thoughts in your direction. Leslie Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:21:53 -0700From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Spencer updateTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowedI have awful news.Spencer has gone missing.It's completely my fault,I don't know what I was thinking.I left for appointments this morning and deliberately left the door open for the dogs and cats.I've beendoing this forever, but I knew Spencer was very sick, I know that catscan decide to find a quiet place to pass on their own, yet I left the door open.In the six months that Spencer has been with us he rarelygoes outside and when he does it's to keep me company in the yard.Whenever I call to him, he comes running like a puppy.I can only fearthe worst.I talked with a couple of ACs and they said that he was looking for quiet and solitude, things that are in very short supplyaround this madhouse.I've been combing the bushes and going throughthe neighbor's yards all day.If he's still moving, if he wants to, I'm praying that he'll come home.It even went through my mind to shut himup before I left this morning, but I didn't think he'd be moving off hisbed much and I don't know, I didn't really process this thought, but I didn't want him to feel like a prisoner either.He's been so goodthrough his illness.The vets last night kept commenting about howsweet he was, I just hated to force anything on him.I just wanted to let you all know.I can't think of a punishment graver than not knowing what happened to him.I'm doing my best to not thinkof this in terms of punishment at all, just what is.It's too late toclose the barn door now.I've gone through the frantic mode of finding him gone, been crying as I search, right now I'm feeling really numb.When I
Re: Spencer update
Oh Nina, I am so sorry you are in such pain. I am sure that Spencer would not want that. Hugs to you.
To Leslie Re: Spencer update
Very well said Leslie. Nina can't help but feel better after reading this post. Mitichlorian thought to you too, whatever those are. hehe. :) Wendy --- Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah Nina, please do not feel repentant or sad, Spencer has found the energy to communicate directly and compassionately to you. If there is one thing that we can not lose it is faith in these cats to know life in a way that is much simpler and purer than we can. You have been open to his desires and loving to his needs and passionate about leading him where you believe that he wants to go. Now, with the strength from who knows where, he is again leading. Don't stop looking, but be gentle and understanding in your efforts. I often look back at situations and am baffled by something that I said/did, or didn't say/do, that was really out of character. I reflect on how there was a little voice saying, this is weird, or the absence of the little voice that would normally be speaking, but the outcome, couldn't have happened unless I acted as I had. I feel in these circumstances that these are the times that something greater has stepped in. Mitichlorians (from Star Wars - the force), God, fate, chance, I don't know the word for it, but it happens. Something that even in ourselves can not be explained as to why we did something, I believe to have been influenced by something larger. You were open to Spencer communicating with you. Nina, she of continual words of love and advice and understanding to us, he has. I so hope that this doesn't seem harsh. I am crying now writing it to you, I am all on board with fist shaking and wanting to be selfish and wanting to be selfish and wanting to be selfish and not let them go. You have helped me so much through my recent time of pain, I just want to send the biggest hug through the computer to you, put my hands on your shoulders and just let you know that you have not acted for a second in any way that wasn't the kindest, most loving, and compassionate towards Spencer, nor are you now in your tears and your searching, and to let you know that he knows that. You took him to the vet for momentary pain to make things better, he would never put you through momentary pain either unless it was to eventually make things better. He would NEVER want you to feel guilt for letting him choose what to do next. It's true, you don't know what is happening with him, but on a deeper level, you do know. And you know that whatever occurs, he is with you and he is okay. He is stronger than we are and he is thanking you for everything. And we don't know what will happen. A quiet place also means healing. The vet wasn't able to determine what was happening in him. Maybe Spencer knows and knows that he needs to be alone for a while to heal. I have heard of this happening. Every time I've gone to force feed one of mine, I think of a story that a friend told me of a cat she owned decades ago that didn't eat for 5 days. This was before everyone knew to force feed. Her cat secluded herself, ran a fever, didn't eat until she came out of the fast, the fever broken, and started to chow down. Even in a situation that we know that we know, before we were so certain, life still acted as it will. Don't lose faith in your friend, and don't lose faith in yourself. I hope that all is well with you both. Strong mitichlorian thoughts in your direction. Leslie Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:21:53 -0700 From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Spencer update To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I have awful news. Spencer has gone missing. It's completely my fault, I don't know what I was thinking. I left for appointments this morning and deliberately left the door open for the dogs and cats. I've been doing this forever, but I knew Spencer was very sick, I know that cats can decide to find a quiet place to pass on their own, yet I left the door open. In the six months that Spencer has been with us he rarely goes outside and when he does it's to keep me company in the yard. Whenever I call to him, he comes running like a puppy. I can only fear the worst. I talked with a couple of ACs and they said that he was looking for quiet and solitude, things that are in very short supply around this madhouse. I've been combing the bushes and going through the neighbor's yards all day. If he's still moving, if he wants to, I'm praying that he'll come home. It even went through my mind to shut him up before I left this morning, but I didn't think he'd be moving off his bed much and I don't know, I didn't really process this thought, but I didn't want him to feel like a prisoner either. He's been so good through his illness. The vets last night kept
Re: Spencer update
things better. He would NEVER want you to feel guilt for letting him choose what to do next. It's true, you don't know what is happening with him, but on a deeper level, you do know. And you know that whatever occurs, he is with you and he is okay. He is stronger than we are and he is thanking you for everything. And we don't know what will happen. A quiet place also means healing. The vet wasn't able to determine what was happening in him. Maybe Spencer knows and knows that he needs to be alone for a while to heal. I have heard of this happening. Every time I've gone to force feed one of mine, I think of a story that a friend told me of a cat she owned decades ago that didn't eat for 5 days. This was before everyone knew to force feed. Her cat secluded herself, ran a fever, didn't eat until she came out of the fast, the fever broken, and started to chow down. Even in a situation that we know that we know, before we were so certain, life still acted as it will. Don't lose faith in your friend, and don't lose faith in yourself. I hope that all is well with you both. Strong mitichlorian thoughts in your direction. Leslie Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:21:53 -0700 From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Spencer update To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I have awful news. Spencer has gone missing. It's completely my fault, I don't know what I was thinking. I left for appointments this morning and deliberately left the door open for the dogs and cats. I've been doing this forever, but I knew Spencer was very sick, I know that cats can decide to find a quiet place to pass on their own, yet I left the door open. In the six months that Spencer has been with us he rarely goes outside and when he does it's to keep me company in the yard. Whenever I call to him, he comes running like a puppy. I can only fear the worst. I talked with a couple of ACs and they said that he was looking for quiet and solitude, things that are in very short supply around this madhouse. I've been combing the bushes and going through the neighbor's yards all day. If he's still moving, if he wants to, I'm praying that he'll come home. It even went through my mind to shut him up before I left this morning, but I didn't think he'd be moving off his bed much and I don't know, I didn't really process this thought, but I didn't want him to feel like a prisoner either. He's been so good through his illness. The vets last night kept commenting about how sweet he was, I just hated to force anything on him. I just wanted to let you all know. I can't think of a punishment graver than not knowing what happened to him. I'm doing my best to not think of this in terms of punishment at all, just what is. It's too late to close the barn door now. I've gone through the frantic mode of finding him gone, been crying as I search, right now I'm feeling really numb. When I called Bruce at work to tell him, he asked me why I would want to have forced him to die in the house with us if that's not what he wanted. I could only come up with selfish answers for that one. The hardest part of all this is that I may never know. I'm still praying that he walks in the door. Feeling repentant and very very sad, Nina
Re: Spencer update
Very well written, Nina. Peace to you. Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006
Re: Spencer update
At least he is a lot more comfortable now. I think it was a good call to go. The good color in his gums sounds promising. I hope you're internist will be able to give you some real answers. I feel for you with that expense. Thank you for keeping us up to date - I was wondering. Prayers still going up for you both. elizabeth In a message dated 9/4/2006 10:10:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well we just got back from the vet. The first set of xrays showed fluid build up around his lungs and made it hard to see what was going on with his organs or if they could detect any masses. So they drained the fluid and did another set of xrays. They also gave him oxygen and subq fluids, (the subqs I could have done at home, but figured it would be better to not have to put him through any added stress after we did get home). He actually seems hydrated enough with good color to his gums, but we figured since he hasn't been eating it couldn't hurt. Bottom line is that we don't know much more than that he had fluid build up that was making it hard to breath, we don't know why and the xrays weren't definitive enough for the doctor on duty to be able to tell anything. (I got a lot of well, it could be, but maybe nots). At least he feels better as I'm writing this, he even ate a little bit for me when we got home. They wanted to keep him overnight, but I said no thank you. He's better off at home where he'll be more comfortable. So here I sit, a good deal poorer, with no answers that will help him. They wanted to send in the fluid to be analyzed, but the vet warned me that they might not be able to tell anything from it. Since that would have been an extra $200 bucks, I told them to hold on to it and let me talk to his regular Internist about it in the morning. We're over $1400 as it is and no closer to helping him get well then before we started. Extremely big sigh.Nina
Re: Spencer update
I'm hoping that perhaps it is something treatable. I will keep you two in my prayers.Gina Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well we just got back from the vet. The first set of xrays showed fluid build up around his lungs and made it hard to see what was going on with his organs or if they could detect any masses. So they drained the fluid and did another set of xrays. They also gave him oxygen and subq fluids, (the subqs I could have done at home, but figured it would be better to not have to put him through any added stress after we did get home). He actually seems hydrated enough with good color to his gums, but we figured since he hasn't been eating it couldn't hurt. Bottom line is that we don't know much more than that he had fluid build up that was making it hard to breath, we don't know why and the xrays weren't definitive enough for the doctor on duty to be able to tell anything. (I got a lot of well, it could be, but maybe nots). At least he feels better as I'm writing this, he even ate a little bit for me when we got home. They wanted to keep him overnight, but I said no thank you. He's better off at home where he'll be more comfortable. So here I sit, a good deal poorer, with no answers that will help him. They wanted to send in the fluid to be analyzed, but the vet warned me that they might not be able to tell anything from it. Since that would have been an extra $200 bucks, I told them to hold on to it and let me talk to his regular Internist about it in the morning. We're over $1400 as it is and no closer to helping him get well then before we started. Extremely big sigh.NinaPlease visitmy Tigger Tales site! On the fundraising page aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.
RE: Spencer update
Oh boy, Nina. I feel your frustration re the lack of answers and the drain on your wallet. I'm glad at least Spencer got some relief; can you see it in his breathing? Very glad the little soul is still with you. (When I took Snoball in, and the X-rays showed massive (75%) fluid on lungs I left with an empty carrier. The vet told me it would simply build up again and he cd die a dreadful death while I wasn't there. I think--but can't recall 100%--that there was a tumor too.) I hope and pray that your own vet has more answers. I'm presuming you were given the X-rays to take with you; maybe your vet will be able to tell more? He's a hardy little soul. Still eating on his own, huh? That's great! I don't know if this helps ease the financial pain, but I know I was just grateful to have the credit cards when I went through similar stuff. I figured they'd get paid off eventually. I'd have felt truly horrible if I'd had no means to have my babies treated. But the fact I was going into debt doubtless figured in my decision not to give Flavia a stressful 2nd transfusion, along with the fact that the transfusion only worked temporarily anyway. We just do the best we can, don't we. And finances do play a part, which is hard to take. Praying Spencer had a good night. And that things look better today at your own vet. Just keep showering him with love. (Thank the Lord he's not feral.) Also hope same for Bruce. I'm thinking of all you guys, and praying for more good news, big hugs, Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 12:11 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Spencer update Well we just got back from the vet. The first set of xrays showed fluid build up around his lungs and made it hard to see what was going on with his organs or if they could detect any masses. So they drained the fluid and did another set of xrays. They also gave him oxygen and subq fluids, (the subqs I could have done at home, but figured it would be better to not have to put him through any added stress after we did get home). He actually seems hydrated enough with good color to his gums, but we figured since he hasn't been eating it couldn't hurt. Bottom line is that we don't know much more than that he had fluid build up that was making it hard to breath, we don't know why and the xrays weren't definitive enough for the doctor on duty to be able to tell anything. (I got a lot of well, it could be, but maybe nots). At least he feels better as I'm writing this, he even ate a little bit for me when we got home. They wanted to keep him overnight, but I said no thank you. He's better off at home where he'll be more comfortable. So here I sit, a good deal poorer, with no answers that will help him. They wanted to send in the fluid to be analyzed, but the vet warned me that they might not be able to tell anything from it. Since that would have been an extra $200 bucks, I told them to hold on to it and let me talk to his regular Internist about it in the morning. We're over $1400 as it is and no closer to helping him get well then before we started. Extremely big sigh. Nina IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Spencer update
Nina, please post the bloodwork that you ran for me -- I really would like to see it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 11:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Spencer update Well we just got back from the vet. The first set of xrays showed fluid build up around his lungs and made it hard to see what was going on with his organs or if they could detect any masses. So they drained the fluid and did another set of xrays. They also gave him oxygen and subq fluids, (the subqs I could have done at home, but figured it would be better to not have to put him through any added stress after we did get home). He actually seems hydrated enough with good color to his gums, but we figured since he hasn't been eating it couldn't hurt. Bottom line is that we don't know much more than that he had fluid build up that was making it hard to breath, we don't know why and the xrays weren't definitive enough for the doctor on duty to be able to tell anything. (I got a lot of well, it could be, but maybe nots). At least he feels better as I'm writing this, he even ate a little bit for me when we got home. They wanted to keep him overnight, but I said no thank you. He's better off at home where he'll be more comfortable. So here I sit, a good deal poorer, with no answers that will help him. They wanted to send in the fluid to be analyzed, but the vet warned me that they might not be able to tell anything from it. Since that would have been an extra $200 bucks, I told them to hold on to it and let me talk to his regular Internist about it in the morning. We're over $1400 as it is and no closer to helping him get well then before we started. Extremely big sigh. Nina
Re: Spencer update
Hey Nina, Bless your heart. $1400 is a lot of money not to know what you're dealing with still. I would be frustrated and feeling a bit defeated too. I just want to encourage you to keep on with the good fight, and hopefully Spencer will just heal spontaneously and surprise you! We all know here that miracles do happen, even in the midst of all the chaos. Please keep us posted on what your internist says. :) Wendy --- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well we just got back from the vet. The first set of xrays showed fluid build up around his lungs and made it hard to see what was going on with his organs or if they could detect any masses. So they drained the fluid and did another set of xrays. They also gave him oxygen and subq fluids, (the subqs I could have done at home, but figured it would be better to not have to put him through any added stress after we did get home). He actually seems hydrated enough with good color to his gums, but we figured since he hasn't been eating it couldn't hurt. Bottom line is that we don't know much more than that he had fluid build up that was making it hard to breath, we don't know why and the xrays weren't definitive enough for the doctor on duty to be able to tell anything. (I got a lot of well, it could be, but maybe nots). At least he feels better as I'm writing this, he even ate a little bit for me when we got home. They wanted to keep him overnight, but I said no thank you. He's better off at home where he'll be more comfortable. So here I sit, a good deal poorer, with no answers that will help him. They wanted to send in the fluid to be analyzed, but the vet warned me that they might not be able to tell anything from it. Since that would have been an extra $200 bucks, I told them to hold on to it and let me talk to his regular Internist about it in the morning. We're over $1400 as it is and no closer to helping him get well then before we started. Extremely big sigh. Nina __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Spencer update
At 05:21 PM 9/5/2006, you wrote: In searching for a cat,,,They do not come, Look under every possible hiding place, They rarely venture far,,neighbors,,,under cars behind trash cans. As soon as it gets dark take a flashlight and scan and scan,,Their eyes will glow Keep us posted Kelly I have awful news. Spencer has gone missing. It's completely my fault, I don't know what I was thinking. I left for appointments this morning and deliberately left the door open for the dogs and cats. I've been doing this forever, but I knew Spencer was very sick, I know that cats can decide to find a quiet place to pass on their own, yet I left the door open. In the six months that Spencer has been with us he rarely goes outside and when he does it's to keep me company in the yard. Whenever I call to him, he comes running like a puppy. I can only fear the worst. I talked with a couple of ACs and they said that he was looking for quiet and solitude, things that are in very short supply around this madhouse. I've been combing the bushes and going through the neighbor's yards all day. If he's still moving, if he wants to, I'm praying that he'll come home. It even went through my mind to shut him up before I left this morning, but I didn't think he'd be moving off his bed much and I don't know, I didn't really process this thought, but I didn't want him to feel like a prisoner either. He's been so good through his illness. The vets last night kept commenting about how sweet he was, I just hated to force anything on him. I just wanted to let you all know. I can't think of a punishment graver than not knowing what happened to him. I'm doing my best to not think of this in terms of punishment at all, just what is. It's too late to close the barn door now. I've gone through the frantic mode of finding him gone, been crying as I search, right now I'm feeling really numb. When I called Bruce at work to tell him, he asked me why I would want to have forced him to die in the house with us if that's not what he wanted. I could only come up with selfish answers for that one. The hardest part of all this is that I may never know. I'm still praying that he walks in the door. Feeling repentant and very very sad, Nina -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 9/4/2006
Re: Spencer update
I would have thought they could have at least given you some lasix or some other kind of drug to help with the fluid buildup issue... But, at least he feels better, that counts for a lot, even if you have to take him in to be drained every couple of days, if it helps him be comfortable, I suppose even without answers, it's got to count for something, right? Maybe if you just go in and say "I just want him drained" and tell them to not do any tests or exams, maybe they could do it cheaper? Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 9/4/2006
RE: Spencer update
Dont forget garages and sheds Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Spencer update Nina, I know that must be really hard to deal with, but I must say, I agree with your partner, if he chose to go out on his own, then it is what he wanted. Cats are very much individuals, and perhaps he just needed to be alone, to face his own end. Keep the door open all night, maybe he will come back once he's made peace with whatever he needs to make peace with. Of course, I'd be frantically digging under bushes, looking in neighbor's crawlspaces, etc all night, if I were you, but that's just human emotion, not anything logical. But I do know how you must be feeling. Bless you. You have my condolences! Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program: http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more! It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need!
Re: Spencer update
And make sure you have checked every place inside... Sick cats usually don't wander off into unformilure territory but they do squeeze into very small tight places.. Behind or under things where there is only a couple inches of crawl space... I have always wondered if I was doing the right thing for them by finding them and bringing them out of their hiding place but then when you do it does seem that they seem comforted by your caring... And they don't realize that the medication that we give them still has hope for giving them some good time yet We can only do what we can do... Feel good that we can give them what ever time we can... Leo's appointment to be PTS had already been made when someone at the shelter remembered talking to us and got permission to see if she could find us in the phone book... Tad Chris wrote: Dont forget garages and sheds Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Spencer update Nina, I know that must be really hard to deal with, but I must say, I agree with your partner, if he chose to go out on his own, then it is what he wanted. Cats are very much individuals, and perhaps he just needed to be alone, to face his own end. Keep the door open all night, maybe he will come back once he's made peace with whatever he needs to make peace with. Of course, I'd be frantically digging under bushes, looking in neighbor's crawlspaces, etc all night, if I were you, but that's just human emotion, not anything logical. But I do know how you must be feeling. Bless you. You have my condolences! Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program: http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more! It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need!
