Re: Bad news/JuneAmy

2006-04-27 Thread Nina




Pam,
I'm sorry to hear about JuneAmy, she sounds like such a sweet little
lamb. I can hear the loving torment in your words as you wait, watch
and pray. I'm sorry to say that so many of us have been though similar
vigils. Love her and BE with her, miracles happen everyday, I'm
praying for one for you and JuneAmy.
Nina

Pam Norman wrote:

  
  
  
  Yesterday was our vet appt in
Madison. It seemed to go well. Bloodwork showed WBCs actually a bit
high. HCT was 30. The vet palpated JuneAmy's abdomen  thought the
mass there seemed to be smaller  based on that  my report
that she had been eating a bit, went ahead with the Vincriistine.
  
  But last night I noticed that her
breathing was changed. And this morning it was not open-mouthed but
I"heavy". She was basically breathing with her whole body.So I took
her in to my vet here before they were even open. He palpated her 
right away found fluid in the abdomen. To be sure he put the ultrasound
probe on her -- he's no expert but even I could see the black blobs
on the screen that was fluid. So he did a needle aspirate found
blood. The tumor is bleeding into the abdomen. The cause is unknown.
Could have been all the handling yesterday. Could be siimply that
withsuch a fast growing tumor, as he says, the tumor basically
outgrows itself  ruptures in places.HJe alsochecked her HCT
it was down to 26 from 30 yesterday. He said we had two choices,
to let her go immediately or to wait  see if the bleeding resolved
on its own. If it was due to all the handling yesterday with a tumor
that was already in a taut condition, then this would be possible. He
said that is what he would do. Since at the time, JuneAmy had wanted to
be down on the floor  was walking around the room, he felt we
needed to take a wait  see stance. See if it gets worse, if she
gets noticeqbly weaker or if the abdomen gets bigger. He said he was
pretty sure she was not in any pain, but that unresolved if the
bleeding doesn't stop, she would just get weaker  weaker.
  
  I've had to be gone most of the day
but when I got back, I found her basically the same as this morning.
She has not eaten anything on her own  is still breathing heavily.
But right now she just left the room  is out in the house, went
out to the screened porch. So she is hanging in. I don't see any change
from this morning. No better, but no worse.
  
  I just don't know what to expect
now. If she is strong enough still to walk out to the screened porch,
I can't think that her HCT has gone a whole lot lower. Her belly seems
about the same. So I am just waiting to see which way things go. If
she gets worse, I will let her go, be it later today or first thing
tomrrow.
  
  Pray for her, please. She is a good
girl.
  
  Pam
  Hurricane Katrina's terrible
message: if it is too dangerous for YOU to stay behind as a disaster
approaches, then why would you leave your PETS behind? Never ever ever
leave them behind! Have enough crates for all  take them with
you! They are your family!





Re: Bad news/JuneAmy

2006-04-27 Thread cindy reasoner
I am so sorry to hear about JuneAmy.  I will be
praying for the both of you and hope she can overcome
this.

Cindy

--- Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yesterday was our vet appt in Madison. It seemed to
 go well. Bloodwork showed WBCs actually a bit high.
 HCT was 30.  The vet palpated JuneAmy's abdomen 
 thought the mass there seemed to be smaller  based
 on that  my report that she had been eating a bit,
 went ahead with the Vincriistine.
 
 But last night I noticed that her breathing was
 changed.  And this morning it was not open-mouthed
 but Iheavy. She was basically breathing with her
 whole body. So I took her in to my vet here before
 they were even open. He palpated her  right away
 found fluid in the abdomen. To be sure he put the
 ultrasound probe on her -- he's no expert but
 even I could see the black blobs on the screen that
 was fluid. So he did a needle aspirate  found
 blood.  The tumor is bleeding into the abdomen.  The
 cause is unknown. Could have been all the handling 
 yesterday. Could be siimply that with such a fast
 growing tumor, as he says, the tumor basically
 outgrows itself  ruptures in places. HJe also
 checked her HCT  it was down to 26 from 30
 yesterday.  He said we had two choices, to let her
 go immediately or to wait  see if the bleeding
 resolved on its own. If it was due to all the
 handling yesterday with a tumor that was already in
 a taut condition, then this would be possible. He
 said that is what he would do. Since at the time,
 JuneAmy had wanted to be down on the floor  was
 walking around the room, he felt we needed to take a
 wait  see stance. See if it gets worse, if she gets
 noticeqbly weaker or if the abdomen gets bigger. He
 said he was pretty sure she was not in any pain, but
 that unresolved if the bleeding doesn't stop, she
 would just get weaker  weaker.
 
 I've had to be gone most of the day but when I got
 back, I found her basically the same as this
 morning. She has not eaten anything on her own  is
 still breathing heavily. But right now she just left
 the room  is out in the house, went out to the
 screened porch. So she is hanging in. I don't see
 any change from this morning. No better, but no
 worse.
 
 I just don't know what to expect now.  If she is
 strong enough still to walk out to the screened
 porch, I can't think that her HCT has gone a whole
 lot lower. Her belly seems about the same.  So I am
 just waiting to see which way things go. If she gets
 worse, I will let her go, be it later today or first
 thing tomrrow.
 
 Pray for her, please. She is a good girl.
 
 Pam
 Hurricane Katrina's terrible message:  if it is too
 dangerous for YOU to stay behind as a disaster
 approaches, then why would you leave your PETS
 behind?  Never ever ever leave them behind!  Have
 enough crates for all  take them with you!  They
 are your family!


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Re: Bad news/JuneAmy

2006-04-27 Thread Susan Loesch
Pam, I sure will be praying that this is just the result of all the handling and that she will overcome it.Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Yesterday was our vet appt in Madison. It seemed to go well. Bloodwork showed WBCs actually a bit high. HCT was 30. The vet palpated JuneAmy's abdomen  thought the mass there seemed to be smaller  based on that  my report that she had been eating a bit, went ahead with the Vincriistine.But last night I noticed that her breathing was changed. And this morning it was not open-mouthed but I"heavy". She was basically breathing with her whole body.So I took her in to my vet
 here before they were even open. He palpated her  right away found fluid in the abdomen. To be sure he put the ultrasound probe on her -- he's no expert but even I could see the black blobs on the screen that was fluid. So he did a needle aspirate found blood. The tumor is bleeding into the abdomen. The cause is unknown. Could have been all the handling yesterday. Could be siimply that withsuch a fast growing tumor, as he says, the tumor basically outgrows itself  ruptures in places.HJe alsochecked her HCT it was down to 26 from 30 yesterday. He said we had two choices, to let her go immediately or to wait  see if the bleeding resolved on its own. If it was due to all the handling yesterday with a tumor that was already in a taut condition, then this would be possible. He said that is what he would do. Since at the time, JuneAmy had wanted to be down on the floor  was walking around the
 room, he felt we needed to take a wait  see stance. See if it gets worse, if she gets noticeqbly weaker or if the abdomen gets bigger. He said he was pretty sure she was not in any pain, but that unresolved if the bleeding doesn't stop, she would just get weaker  weaker.I've had to be gone most of the day but when I got back, I found her basically the same as this morning. She has not eaten anything on her own  is still breathing heavily. But right now she just left the room  is out in the house, went out to the screened porch. So she is hanging in. I don't see any change from this morning. No better, but no worse.I just don't know what to expect now. If she is strong enough still to walk out to the screened porch, I can't think that her HCT has gone a whole lot
 lower. Her belly seems about the same. So I am just waiting to see which way things go. If she gets worse, I will let her go, be it later today or first thing tomrrow.Pray for her, please. She is a good girl.Pam  Hurricane Katrina's terrible message: if it is too dangerous for YOU to stay behind as a disaster approaches, then why would you leave your PETS behind? Never ever ever leave them behind! Have enough crates for all  take them with you! They are your family!

Re: Bad news/JuneAmy

2006-04-27 Thread Becca DuBose
Pam,Prayers on the way for JuneAmy, and you. As Marylyn advised, give JuneAmy as much love as she'll allow.Becca

Re: Bad news/JuneAmy

2006-04-27 Thread Marylyn



Sometimes, just being in the same room/area is 
helpful. I slept where Kitty could get easily and she would sleep close 
by. Not with, but close. Even when she left she was only a few feet 
away. Just be with her and love her. 






 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Becca 
  DuBose 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 6:40 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Bad news/JuneAmy
  Pam,Prayers on the way for JuneAmy, and you. As 
  Marylyn advised, give JuneAmy as much love as she'll 
allow.Becca


Re: Bad news/JuneAmy

2006-04-26 Thread carrie chance



I have been praying like crazy for all of mine 

soI will surely add her to those 
prayers!


Carrie

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Pam 
  Norman 
  To: Felv 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:41 
  PM
  Subject: Bad news/JuneAmy
  
  Yesterday was our vet appt in Madison. It seemed 
  to go well. Bloodwork showed WBCs actually a bit high. HCT was 30. The 
  vet palpated JuneAmy's abdomen  thought the mass there seemed to be 
  smaller  based on that  my report that she had been eating a bit, 
  went ahead with the Vincriistine.
  
  But last night I noticed that her breathing was 
  changed. And this morning it was not open-mouthed but I"heavy". She was 
  basically breathing with her whole body.So I took her in to my vet here 
  before they were even open. He palpated her  right away found fluid in 
  the abdomen. To be sure he put the ultrasound probe on her -- he's no 
  expert but even I could see the black blobs on the screen that was fluid. So 
  he did a needle aspirate found blood. The tumor is bleeding 
  into the abdomen. The cause is unknown. Could have been all the 
  handling yesterday. Could be siimply that withsuch a fast growing 
  tumor, as he says, the tumor basically outgrows itself  ruptures in 
  places.HJe alsochecked her HCT it was down to 26 from 
  30 yesterday. He said we had two choices, to let her go immediately or 
  to wait  see if the bleeding resolved on its own. If it was due to all 
  the handling yesterday with a tumor that was already in a taut condition, then 
  this would be possible. He said that is what he would do. Since at the time, 
  JuneAmy had wanted to be down on the floor  was walking around the room, 
  he felt we needed to take a wait  see stance. See if it gets worse, if 
  she gets noticeqbly weaker or if the abdomen gets bigger. He said he was 
  pretty sure she was not in any pain, but that unresolved if the bleeding 
  doesn't stop, she would just get weaker  weaker.
  
  I've had to be gone most of the day but when I 
  got back, I found her basically the same as this morning. She has not eaten 
  anything on her own  is still breathing heavily. But right now she just 
  left the room  is out in the house, went out to the screened porch. So 
  she is hanging in. I don't see any change from this morning. No better, but no 
  worse.
  
  I just don't know what to expect now. If 
  she is strong enough still to walk out to the screened porch, I can't think 
  that her HCT has gone a whole lot lower. Her belly seems about the same. 
  So I am just waiting to see which way things go. If she gets worse, I will let 
  her go, be it later today or first thing tomrrow.
  
  Pray for her, please. She is a good 
  girl.
  
  Pam
  Hurricane Katrina's terrible message: if it 
  is too dangerous for YOU to stay behind as a disaster approaches, then why 
  would you leave your PETS behind? Never ever ever leave them 
  behind! Have enough crates for all  take them with you! They 
  are your family!


Re: Bad news/JuneAmy

2006-04-26 Thread Marylyn



Enjoy the time you have with herforget about 
"letting her go" that is a black cloud over you both. She will let 
you know if she needs help leaving this world. Kitty left on her own after 
two visits from her First woman and without having to travel and go to a 
vet. Enjoy your time with her and love her. That is all she asks and 
it is the very best you can give her. Honest. I know how hard it 
is. You can do this. Love her. None of us know our 
futures. Love her. 






 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  carrie chance 
  
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:52 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Bad news/JuneAmy
  
  I have been praying like crazy for all of mine 
  
  soI will surely add her to those 
  prayers!
  
  
  Carrie
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Pam 
Norman 
To: Felv 
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:41 
PM
Subject: Bad news/JuneAmy

Yesterday was our vet appt in Madison. It 
seemed to go well. Bloodwork showed WBCs actually a bit high. HCT was 
30. The vet palpated JuneAmy's abdomen  thought the mass there 
seemed to be smaller  based on that  my report that she had been 
eating a bit, went ahead with the Vincriistine.

But last night I noticed that her breathing was 
changed. And this morning it was not open-mouthed but I"heavy". She 
was basically breathing with her whole body.So I took her in to my vet 
here before they were even open. He palpated her  right away found 
fluid in the abdomen. To be sure he put the ultrasound probe on her -- 
he's no expert but even I could see the black blobs on the screen that was 
fluid. So he did a needle aspirate found blood. The tumor 
is bleeding into the abdomen. The cause is unknown. Could have been 
all the handling yesterday. Could be siimply that withsuch a 
fast growing tumor, as he says, the tumor basically outgrows itself  
ruptures in places.HJe alsochecked her HCT it was 
down to 26 from 30 yesterday. He said we had two choices, to let her 
go immediately or to wait  see if the bleeding resolved on its own. If 
it was due to all the handling yesterday with a tumor that was already in a 
taut condition, then this would be possible. He said that is what he would 
do. Since at the time, JuneAmy had wanted to be down on the floor  was 
walking around the room, he felt we needed to take a wait  see stance. 
See if it gets worse, if she gets noticeqbly weaker or if the abdomen gets 
bigger. He said he was pretty sure she was not in any pain, but that 
unresolved if the bleeding doesn't stop, she would just get weaker  
weaker.

I've had to be gone most of the day but when I 
got back, I found her basically the same as this morning. She has not eaten 
anything on her own  is still breathing heavily. But right now she just 
left the room  is out in the house, went out to the screened porch. So 
she is hanging in. I don't see any change from this morning. No better, but 
no worse.

I just don't know what to expect now. If 
she is strong enough still to walk out to the screened porch, I can't think 
that her HCT has gone a whole lot lower. Her belly seems about the 
same. So I am just waiting to see which way things go. If she gets 
worse, I will let her go, be it later today or first thing 
tomrrow.

Pray for her, please. She is a good 
girl.

Pam
Hurricane Katrina's terrible message: if 
it is too dangerous for YOU to stay behind as a disaster approaches, then 
why would you leave your PETS behind? Never ever ever leave them 
behind! Have enough crates for all  take them with you! 
They are your family!


Re: Bad news/JuneAmy

2006-04-26 Thread Pam Norman



Thank you Carrie, I so appreciate it.

Pam

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  carrie chance 
  
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:52 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Bad news/JuneAmy
  
  I have been praying like crazy for all of mine 
  
  soI will surely add her to those 
  prayers!
  
  
  Carrie
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Pam 
Norman 
To: Felv 
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:41 
PM
Subject: Bad news/JuneAmy

Yesterday was our vet appt in Madison. It 
seemed to go well. Bloodwork showed WBCs actually a bit high. HCT was 
30. The vet palpated JuneAmy's abdomen  thought the mass there 
seemed to be smaller  based on that  my report that she had been 
eating a bit, went ahead with the Vincriistine.

But last night I noticed that her breathing was 
changed. And this morning it was not open-mouthed but I"heavy". She 
was basically breathing with her whole body.So I took her in to my vet 
here before they were even open. He palpated her  right away found 
fluid in the abdomen. To be sure he put the ultrasound probe on her -- 
he's no expert but even I could see the black blobs on the screen that was 
fluid. So he did a needle aspirate found blood. The tumor 
is bleeding into the abdomen. The cause is unknown. Could have been 
all the handling yesterday. Could be siimply that withsuch a 
fast growing tumor, as he says, the tumor basically outgrows itself  
ruptures in places.HJe alsochecked her HCT it was 
down to 26 from 30 yesterday. He said we had two choices, to let her 
go immediately or to wait  see if the bleeding resolved on its own. If 
it was due to all the handling yesterday with a tumor that was already in a 
taut condition, then this would be possible. He said that is what he would 
do. Since at the time, JuneAmy had wanted to be down on the floor  was 
walking around the room, he felt we needed to take a wait  see stance. 
See if it gets worse, if she gets noticeqbly weaker or if the abdomen gets 
bigger. He said he was pretty sure she was not in any pain, but that 
unresolved if the bleeding doesn't stop, she would just get weaker  
weaker.

I've had to be gone most of the day but when I 
got back, I found her basically the same as this morning. She has not eaten 
anything on her own  is still breathing heavily. But right now she just 
left the room  is out in the house, went out to the screened porch. So 
she is hanging in. I don't see any change from this morning. No better, but 
no worse.

I just don't know what to expect now. If 
she is strong enough still to walk out to the screened porch, I can't think 
that her HCT has gone a whole lot lower. Her belly seems about the 
same. So I am just waiting to see which way things go. If she gets 
worse, I will let her go, be it later today or first thing 
tomrrow.

Pray for her, please. She is a good 
girl.

Pam
Hurricane Katrina's terrible message: if 
it is too dangerous for YOU to stay behind as a disaster approaches, then 
why would you leave your PETS behind? Never ever ever leave them 
behind! Have enough crates for all  take them with you! 
They are your family!


Re: Bad news/JuneAmy

2006-04-26 Thread Lance
I just said a prayer for her. Take care of yourself, and love your  
girl. I'm glad she got some porch time in.


Lance



Re: Bad news/JuneAmy

2006-04-26 Thread Pam Norman
Thank you, Lance.  We need all the prayers we can get.

Pam
- Original Message - 
From: Lance [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: Bad news/JuneAmy


 I just said a prayer for her. Take care of yourself, and love your  
 girl. I'm glad she got some porch time in.
 
 Lance
 



Re: Bad news/JuneAmy

2006-04-26 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



Don't give up Pam !
healing vibes on the way


Re: Bad news/JuneAmy

2006-04-26 Thread felv



I'm sorry to hear about the turn for the worse Pam. I do think that her not 
getting weak and lethargic over the period of the day is a good sign, if she 
were losing very much blood, she would be too tired to be stalking around the 
house.

Are you taking her back in the morning to draw off more fluid to check to 
see if it's fresh or clotted blood?
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Re: Bad news/JuneAmy

2006-04-26 Thread Kerry MacKenzie



I'm sending prayers and positive healing vibes for JuneAmy, 
Pam. Our little furballs can often surprise us with a (seemingly) miracle 
turnaround... Hoping JuneAmy has a good night and feelsa little 
better and strongerin the morning. 
hugs, Kerry

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Pam 
  Norman 
  To: Felv 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:41 
  PM
  Subject: Bad news/JuneAmy
  
  Yesterday was our vet appt in Madison. It seemed 
  to go well. Bloodwork showed WBCs actually a bit high. HCT was 30. The 
  vet palpated JuneAmy's abdomen  thought the mass there seemed to be 
  smaller  based on that  my report that she had been eating a bit, 
  went ahead with the Vincriistine.
  
  But last night I noticed that her breathing was 
  changed. And this morning it was not open-mouthed but I"heavy". She was 
  basically breathing with her whole body.So I took her in to my vet here 
  before they were even open. He palpated her  right away found fluid in 
  the abdomen. To be sure he put the ultrasound probe on her -- he's no 
  expert but even I could see the black blobs on the screen that was fluid. So 
  he did a needle aspirate found blood. The tumor is bleeding 
  into the abdomen. The cause is unknown. Could have been all the 
  handling yesterday. Could be siimply that withsuch a fast growing 
  tumor, as he says, the tumor basically outgrows itself  ruptures in 
  places.HJe alsochecked her HCT it was down to 26 from 
  30 yesterday. He said we had two choices, to let her go immediately or 
  to wait  see if the bleeding resolved on its own. If it was due to all 
  the handling yesterday with a tumor that was already in a taut condition, then 
  this would be possible. He said that is what he would do. Since at the time, 
  JuneAmy had wanted to be down on the floor  was walking around the room, 
  he felt we needed to take a wait  see stance. See if it gets worse, if 
  she gets noticeqbly weaker or if the abdomen gets bigger. He said he was 
  pretty sure she was not in any pain, but that unresolved if the bleeding 
  doesn't stop, she would just get weaker  weaker.
  
  I've had to be gone most of the day but when I 
  got back, I found her basically the same as this morning. She has not eaten 
  anything on her own  is still breathing heavily. But right now she just 
  left the room  is out in the house, went out to the screened porch. So 
  she is hanging in. I don't see any change from this morning. No better, but no 
  worse.
  
  I just don't know what to expect now. If 
  she is strong enough still to walk out to the screened porch, I can't think 
  that her HCT has gone a whole lot lower. Her belly seems about the same. 
  So I am just waiting to see which way things go. If she gets worse, I will let 
  her go, be it later today or first thing tomrrow.
  
  Pray for her, please. She is a good 
  girl.
  
  Pam
  Hurricane Katrina's terrible message: if it 
  is too dangerous for YOU to stay behind as a disaster approaches, then why 
  would you leave your PETS behind? Never ever ever leave them 
  behind! Have enough crates for all  take them with you! They 
  are your family!