Re: Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis)--ketoprofen in dogs
I have to second that caution, only it was ME that ended up in the ER with a low grade fever and nasty gastritis. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2006 8:42:31 PM Subject: Re: Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis)--ketoprofen in dogs Hi Nina! I just wanted to caution the use of ketoprofen in dogs...it's rare, but severe ulceration of the GI tract can occur as a side effect of the drug...we actually had it happen at the clinic. A young dog died as a result of a severe allergic reaction to ketoprofen...hence we've trashed our remaining supply of the drug and will no longer be using it as a pain reliever. Like I said, it's *rare* to witness such a severe allergic reaction...but I assisted on the necropsy of this dog and couldn't believe what I saw! :( But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. -- Chief Dan George The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long... --Blade Runner - Original Message - From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, December 3, 2006 5:28 pm Subject: Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi Sally, I just wanted to comment on getting the antibiotic ointment in Junior's eye... If you put a line of the ointment on your finger and gently apply it to his closed eye, (on the line where his eyelids meet), at least some will go in his eye and it should help at least keep his eye moist. I didn't see you comment on Michelle's post about steriods. Have you been to a specialist for his eye? Maybe your vet could just consult with an ophthalmologist over the phone to see what they think of the situation? Speaking of old fashioned pain meds... I have used Ketofen syrup for dogs. It doesn't taste bad, slight medicine taste, but not bitter and the the dosage, (at least for small dogs), is small enough that I'm betting it could be hidden in some baby food, or easily squirted in his mouth. I did a quick search on it to see if it can be given to cats and came up with the following site on pain control for dogs and cats: http://www.2ndchance.info/pain.htm Nina Sally wrote: I knew that I skipped a day on the aspirin.. also the vet said the anti-inflammatory properties were good for his eye. He ate more today...good sign I hope. sally Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
RE: Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis)
Hi Nina The situation has been a bit overwhelming for me. As this was the other vet in the office we saw Friday. I did not feel too comfortable telling him what to prescribe. I told him about the zithromax and he prescribed something else. He is a good vet. He did not prescribe for the eye because I was not able to get anything in his eye at the time. Your method was what I was doing until the eye became too painful for me to even touch that near it. I was able to use the antibiotic ointment this AM. I still need to talk to his regular vet about the monthly injections of immunoregulin and if she is willing to do the oral low dose alferon. I had hoped to see her Friday but she had a conference to attend. Junior is about the same some days seem better than others. He still eats dry food. I had not seen him do that for days. I know there is no magic bullet for FeLV but I was hoping for a better outcome than his being sick all the time. As for the steroids are you speaking about for his eye? I think I can discuss that with Dr Staunton next time I see or speak with her. I will also check on the ketophen. Thanks Sally Hi Sally, I just wanted to comment on getting the antibiotic ointment in Junior's eye... If you put a line of the ointment on your finger and gently apply it to his closed eye, (on the line where his eyelids meet), at least some will go in his eye and it should help at least keep his eye moist. I didn't see you comment on Michelle's post about steriods. Have you been to a specialist for his eye? Maybe your vet could just consult with an ophthalmologist over the phone to see what they think of the situation? Speaking of old fashioned pain meds... I have used Ketofen syrup for dogs. It doesn't taste bad, slight medicine taste, but not bitter and the the dosage, (at least for small dogs), is small enough that I'm betting it could be hidden in some baby food, or easily squirted in his mouth. I did a quick search on it to see if it can be given to cats and came up with the following site on pain control for dogs and cats: http://www.2ndchance.info/pain.htm Nina Sally wrote: I knew that I skipped a day on the aspirin.. also the vet said the anti-inflammatory properties were good for his eye. He ate more today.good sign I hope. sally
Re: Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis)
Yes, uveitis is treated with topical steroids in the eye. Prednisolone drops is what is usually used; sometimes atropine is used, I think for pain in the eye. See Kerry's email about Bandy's course on these two eye drops (drops can be easier to get in than ointment, too). I also needed to use steroids with both Pepsi and Buddy when they had uveitis. Uveitis is not treated just with antibiotics. It is an inflammation that needs to be taken down with steroids. The only time not to use topical steroids for uveitis is if there is also ulceration of the eye, which the vet needs to check. Michelle In a message dated 12/4/2006 6:48:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for the steroids are you speaking about for his eye? I think I can discuss that with Dr Staunton next time I see or speak with her. I will also check on the ketophen.
RE: Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis)
Hi Michelle I will see if I can reach Junior's regular Vet tomorrow, she was at a conference last Friday. There is less pain today, but it is still closed. I just want him to fell better. Thanks Sally _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 6:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis) Yes, uveitis is treated with topical steroids in the eye. Prednisolone drops is what is usually used; sometimes atropine is used, I think for pain in the eye. See Kerry's email about Bandy's course on these two eye drops (drops can be easier to get in than ointment, too). I also needed to use steroids with both Pepsi and Buddy when they had uveitis. Uveitis is not treated just with antibiotics. It is an inflammation that needs to be taken down with steroids. The only time not to use topical steroids for uveitis is if there is also ulceration of the eye, which the vet needs to check. Michelle In a message dated 12/4/2006 6:48:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for the steroids are you speaking about for his eye? I think I can discuss that with Dr Staunton next time I see or speak with her. I will also check on the ketophen.
Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis)
Hi Sally, I just wanted to comment on getting the antibiotic ointment in Junior's eye... If you put a line of the ointment on your finger and gently apply it to his closed eye, (on the line where his eyelids meet), at least some will go in his eye and it should help at least keep his eye moist. I didn't see you comment on Michelle's post about steriods. Have you been to a specialist for his eye? Maybe your vet could just consult with an ophthalmologist over the phone to see what they think of the situation? Speaking of old fashioned pain meds... I have used Ketofen syrup for dogs. It doesn't taste bad, slight medicine taste, but not bitter and the the dosage, (at least for small dogs), is small enough that I'm betting it could be hidden in some baby food, or easily squirted in his mouth. I did a quick search on it to see if it can be given to cats and came up with the following site on pain control for dogs and cats: http://www.2ndchance.info/pain.htm Nina Sally wrote: I knew that I skipped a day on the aspirin.. also the vet said the anti-inflammatory properties were good for his eye. He ate more today...good sign I hope. sally
Re: Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis)--ketoprofen in dogs
Hi Nina! I just wanted to caution the use of ketoprofen in dogs...it's rare, but severe ulceration of the GI tract can occur as a side effect of the drug...we actually had it happen at the clinic. A young dog died as a result of a severe allergic reaction to ketoprofen...hence we've trashed our remaining supply of the drug and will no longer be using it as a pain reliever. Like I said, it's *rare* to witness such a severe allergic reaction...but I assisted on the necropsy of this dog and couldn't believe what I saw! :( But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. -- Chief Dan George The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long... --Blade Runner - Original Message - From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, December 3, 2006 5:28 pm Subject: Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi Sally, I just wanted to comment on getting the antibiotic ointment in Junior's eye... If you put a line of the ointment on your finger and gently apply it to his closed eye, (on the line where his eyelids meet), at least some will go in his eye and it should help at least keep his eye moist. I didn't see you comment on Michelle's post about steriods. Have you been to a specialist for his eye? Maybe your vet could just consult with an ophthalmologist over the phone to see what they think of the situation? Speaking of old fashioned pain meds... I have used Ketofen syrup for dogs. It doesn't taste bad, slight medicine taste, but not bitter and the the dosage, (at least for small dogs), is small enough that I'm betting it could be hidden in some baby food, or easily squirted in his mouth. I did a quick search on it to see if it can be given to cats and came up with the following site on pain control for dogs and cats: http://www.2ndchance.info/pain.htm Nina Sally wrote: I knew that I skipped a day on the aspirin.. also the vet said the anti-inflammatory properties were good for his eye. He ate more today...good sign I hope. sally