Re: Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis)--ketoprofen in dogs

2006-12-04 Thread Barb Moermond
I have to second that caution, only it was ME that ended up in the ER with a 
low grade fever and nasty gastritis.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
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Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2006 8:42:31 PM
Subject: Re: Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis)--ketoprofen in dogs


Hi Nina!

I just wanted to caution the use of ketoprofen in dogs...it's rare, 
but severe ulceration of the GI tract can occur as a side effect of 
the drug...we actually had it happen at the clinic.  A young dog died 
as a result of a severe allergic reaction to ketoprofen...hence we've 
trashed our remaining supply of the drug and will no longer be using 
it as a pain reliever.  Like I said, it's *rare* to witness such a 
severe allergic reaction...but I assisted on the necropsy of this dog 
and couldn't believe what I saw!  :(



But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be 
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; 
You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine 
de Saint-Exupéry

If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know 
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and 
what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --
Chief Dan George

The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long... --Blade 
Runner

- Original Message -
From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, December 3, 2006 5:28 pm
Subject: Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis)
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 Hi Sally,
 I just wanted to comment on getting the antibiotic ointment in 
 Junior's 
 eye...  If you put a line of the ointment on your finger and 
 gently 
 apply it to his closed eye, (on the line where his eyelids meet), 
 at 
 least some will go in his eye and it should help at least keep his 
 eye 
 moist.  I didn't see you comment on Michelle's post about 
 steriods.  
 Have you been to a specialist for his eye?  Maybe your vet could 
 just 
 consult with an ophthalmologist over the phone to see what they 
 think of 
 the situation? 
 
 Speaking of old fashioned pain meds...  I have used Ketofen syrup 
 for 
 dogs.  It doesn't taste bad, slight medicine taste, but not 
 bitter and 
 the the dosage, (at least for small dogs), is small enough that 
 I'm 
 betting it could be hidden in some baby food, or easily squirted 
 in his 
 mouth.  I did a quick search on it to see if it can be given to 
 cats and 
 came up with the following site on pain control for dogs and cats: 
 http://www.2ndchance.info/pain.htm
 Nina
 
 Sally wrote:
 
  I knew that I skipped a day on the aspirin.. also the vet said 
 the 
  anti-inflammatory properties were good for his eye. He ate more 
  today...good sign I hope.
 
   
 
  sally
 



 

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RE: Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis)

2006-12-04 Thread Sally

Hi Nina

The situation has been a bit overwhelming for me. As this was the other vet
in the office we saw Friday. I did not feel too comfortable telling him what
to prescribe. I told him about the zithromax and he prescribed something
else. He is a good vet. He did not prescribe for the eye because I was not
able to get anything in his eye at the time. Your method was what I was
doing until the eye became too painful for me to even touch that near it. I
was able to use the antibiotic ointment this AM. I still need to talk to his
regular vet about the monthly injections of immunoregulin and if she is
willing to do the oral low dose alferon. I had hoped to see her Friday but
she had a conference to attend. Junior is about the same some days seem
better than others. He still eats dry food. I had not seen him do that for
days. I know there is no magic bullet for FeLV but I was hoping for a better
outcome than his being sick all the time.

As for the steroids are you speaking about for his eye? I think I can
discuss that with Dr Staunton next time I see or speak with her. I will also
check on the ketophen.

Thanks

Sally

Hi Sally,
I just wanted to comment on getting the antibiotic ointment in Junior's
eye...  If you put a line of the ointment on your finger and gently apply it
to his closed eye, (on the line where his eyelids meet), at least some will
go in his eye and it should help at least keep his eye moist.  I didn't see
you comment on Michelle's post about steriods.  Have you been to a
specialist for his eye?  Maybe your vet could just consult with an
ophthalmologist over the phone to see what they think of the situation?  

Speaking of old fashioned pain meds...  I have used Ketofen syrup for dogs.
It doesn't taste bad, slight medicine taste, but not bitter and the the
dosage, (at least for small dogs), is small enough that I'm betting it could
be hidden in some baby food, or easily squirted in his mouth.  I did a quick
search on it to see if it can be given to cats and came up with the
following site on pain control for dogs and cats:
http://www.2ndchance.info/pain.htm
Nina

Sally wrote: 

I knew that I skipped a day on the aspirin.. also the vet said the
anti-inflammatory properties were good for his eye. He ate more today.good
sign I hope.

 

sally





Re: Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis)

2006-12-04 Thread Lernermichelle
 
Yes, uveitis is treated with topical steroids in the eye.   Prednisolone 
drops is what is usually used; sometimes atropine is used, I think  for pain in 
the eye.  See Kerry's email about Bandy's course on these two  eye drops (drops 
can be easier to get in than ointment, too).  I also  needed to use steroids 
with both Pepsi and Buddy when they had uveitis.   Uveitis is not treated just 
with antibiotics.  It is an inflammation that  needs to be taken down with 
steroids. The only time not to use topical steroids  for uveitis is if there is 
also ulceration of the eye, which the vet needs to  check.
 
Michelle
 
In a message dated 12/4/2006 6:48:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

As for  the steroids are you speaking about for his eye? I think I can
discuss that  with Dr Staunton next time I see or speak with her. I will also
check on  the ketophen.






RE: Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis)

2006-12-04 Thread Sally
Hi Michelle 

 

I will see if I can reach Junior's regular Vet tomorrow, she was at a
conference last Friday. There is less pain today, but it is still closed. I
just want him to fell better.

 

Thanks

 

Sally

 

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Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 6:54 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis)

 

Yes, uveitis is treated with topical steroids in the eye.  Prednisolone
drops is what is usually used; sometimes atropine is used, I think for pain
in the eye.  See Kerry's email about Bandy's course on these two eye drops
(drops can be easier to get in than ointment, too).  I also needed to use
steroids with both Pepsi and Buddy when they had uveitis.  Uveitis is not
treated just with antibiotics.  It is an inflammation that needs to be taken
down with steroids. The only time not to use topical steroids for uveitis is
if there is also ulceration of the eye, which the vet needs to check.

 

Michelle

 

In a message dated 12/4/2006 6:48:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

As for the steroids are you speaking about for his eye? I think I can
discuss that with Dr Staunton next time I see or speak with her. I will also
check on the ketophen.

 



Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis)

2006-12-03 Thread Nina

Hi Sally,
I just wanted to comment on getting the antibiotic ointment in Junior's 
eye...  If you put a line of the ointment on your finger and gently 
apply it to his closed eye, (on the line where his eyelids meet), at 
least some will go in his eye and it should help at least keep his eye 
moist.  I didn't see you comment on Michelle's post about steriods.  
Have you been to a specialist for his eye?  Maybe your vet could just 
consult with an ophthalmologist over the phone to see what they think of 
the situation? 

Speaking of old fashioned pain meds...  I have used Ketofen syrup for 
dogs.  It doesn't taste bad, slight medicine taste, but not bitter and 
the the dosage, (at least for small dogs), is small enough that I'm 
betting it could be hidden in some baby food, or easily squirted in his 
mouth.  I did a quick search on it to see if it can be given to cats and 
came up with the following site on pain control for dogs and cats: 
http://www.2ndchance.info/pain.htm

Nina

Sally wrote:


I knew that I skipped a day on the aspirin.. also the vet said the 
anti-inflammatory properties were good for his eye. He ate more 
today...good sign I hope.


 


sally



Re: Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis)--ketoprofen in dogs

2006-12-03 Thread jenmeyer
Hi Nina!

I just wanted to caution the use of ketoprofen in dogs...it's rare, 
but severe ulceration of the GI tract can occur as a side effect of 
the drug...we actually had it happen at the clinic.  A young dog died 
as a result of a severe allergic reaction to ketoprofen...hence we've 
trashed our remaining supply of the drug and will no longer be using 
it as a pain reliever.  Like I said, it's *rare* to witness such a 
severe allergic reaction...but I assisted on the necropsy of this dog 
and couldn't believe what I saw!  :(



But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be 
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; 
You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine 
de Saint-Exupéry

If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know 
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and 
what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --
Chief Dan George

The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long... --Blade 
Runner

- Original Message -
From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, December 3, 2006 5:28 pm
Subject: Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis)
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 Hi Sally,
 I just wanted to comment on getting the antibiotic ointment in 
 Junior's 
 eye...  If you put a line of the ointment on your finger and 
 gently 
 apply it to his closed eye, (on the line where his eyelids meet), 
 at 
 least some will go in his eye and it should help at least keep his 
 eye 
 moist.  I didn't see you comment on Michelle's post about 
 steriods.  
 Have you been to a specialist for his eye?  Maybe your vet could 
 just 
 consult with an ophthalmologist over the phone to see what they 
 think of 
 the situation? 
 
 Speaking of old fashioned pain meds...  I have used Ketofen syrup 
 for 
 dogs.  It doesn't taste bad, slight medicine taste, but not 
 bitter and 
 the the dosage, (at least for small dogs), is small enough that 
 I'm 
 betting it could be hidden in some baby food, or easily squirted 
 in his 
 mouth.  I did a quick search on it to see if it can be given to 
 cats and 
 came up with the following site on pain control for dogs and cats: 
 http://www.2ndchance.info/pain.htm
 Nina
 
 Sally wrote:
 
  I knew that I skipped a day on the aspirin.. also the vet said 
 the 
  anti-inflammatory properties were good for his eye. He ate more 
  today...good sign I hope.
 
   
 
  sally