RE: relative merits of Doxy and Clavamox?

2005-04-27 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
...and it shows--with pix--how to give a pill! I've never seen that
before either! I'll try it tonight with a "dummy" pill. Kerry

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in addition to the merck, another hard-copy resource about meds is
"The Pill Book Guide to Medication for Your Dog & Cat"--it's just like
the human version, except, of course, it's different! easy to
understand, dosage administration, etc--not as technical as the merck,
of course. on-line, i like
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/pharmacy_center.html for info on drugs
and their uses

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RE: relative merits of Doxy and Clavamox?

2005-04-27 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Thanks so much MaryChristine--I'll look at that! Kerry

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in addition to the merck, another hard-copy resource about meds is
"The Pill Book Guide to Medication for Your Dog & Cat"--it's just like
the human version, except, of course, it's different! easy to
understand, dosage administration, etc--not as technical as the merck,
of course. on-line, i like
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/pharmacy_center.html for info on drugs
and their uses

-- 
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RE: relative merits of Doxy and Clavamox?

2005-04-27 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Dear Sally
As always, thank you for your much-valued insight. I really appreciate
the list of names, too, Sally---I'd never heard of Delta Albaplex
either. And yes, I can see it makes sense to start with the "small
guns."
I've mostly had to use antibiotics on my positives, and as they're all
feral I've had to have the abx made up in compound "treat" form, so I
guess the taste hasn't been an issue. I was so lucky--when they first
arrived with me, and they were all mucous-y and coughing and sneezing (I
didn't know they were positive at that point) somehow I managed to
ensure each cat took exactly the dose it was prescribed--no less, no
more--over the 15 days. (If my tame neg cats ever need abx I think I may
just go with the treat form for them too in future.) 
No one's on abx just nowlong may it last.
thank you so much again,
Kerry


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I always ask a vet WHY they choose a particular medication for one of my

furkids and I get better responses from some than others.  I also look
up 
medication in the Merck manual or an online source to find out what is
in it (if I 
don't already know) and what it is recommended for.

One vet I use for routine things (because his fees are more reasonable
than 
most others in this area) is not a high tech vet but has good instincts
based 
on experience and his approach to the use of abx is to start with the
one most 
specific to a particular condition, if possible, and if that doesn't
work then 
go for one that is more broad-specturm and one of the "bigger" guns in
the 
abx arsenal such as Baytril.  His opinion is that if you always start
with the 
biggest gun, if resistance becomes an issue you have no better options.
If 
Amoxicillan (relative of penicillan) or Clavamox (combo of   )
don't work, 
then try something like Baytril or Zeniquin (a newer relative of
Baytril).  
Sometimes if a condition seems serious and what is going on is not
clear, he'll 
start with a bigger gun.  Last year I had a kitty who was presenting
with a 
high fever and no other symptoms...his first choice was Baytril and when
that 
didn't bring down the fever, he prescribed something called Delta
Albaplex, which 
I'd never heard of before.  The fever was gone in 2 days after that.  I 
looked it up and DA is a combo of an abx (can't remember which one
offhand) and a 
steroid.

I've never had to use Doxycycline yet, so haven't looked it up, but it
seems 
to be more specific in what it targets than Clavamox.  For one thing,
Doxy is 
prescribed for the blood parasite hemobartonella and seems to be more
powerful 
in its action than Clavamox or Amoxicillan.  But it can have a caustic
effect 
on mucous membranes and administering it is more problematic.  I guess
the 
idea is to kill whatever bacteria may be the culprit without
OVERkilling.  If 
there is a choice that can be made, I will opt for the one with the
least gnarly 
taste and fewest possible side-effects.

Sally in San Jose 


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Re: relative merits of Doxy and Clavamox?

2005-04-27 Thread Skf95111
I always ask a vet WHY they choose a particular medication for one of my 
furkids and I get better responses from some than others.  I also look up 
medication in the Merck manual or an online source to find out what is in it 
(if I 
don't already know) and what it is recommended for.

One vet I use for routine things (because his fees are more reasonable than 
most others in this area) is not a high tech vet but has good instincts based 
on experience and his approach to the use of abx is to start with the one most 
specific to a particular condition, if possible, and if that doesn't work then 
go for one that is more broad-specturm and one of the "bigger" guns in the 
abx arsenal such as Baytril.  His opinion is that if you always start with the 
biggest gun, if resistance becomes an issue you have no better options.  If 
Amoxicillan (relative of penicillan) or Clavamox (combo of   )  don't work, 
then try something like Baytril or Zeniquin (a newer relative of Baytril).  
Sometimes if a condition seems serious and what is going on is not clear, he'll 
start with a bigger gun.  Last year I had a kitty who was presenting with a 
high fever and no other symptoms...his first choice was Baytril and when that 
didn't bring down the fever, he prescribed something called Delta Albaplex, 
which 
I'd never heard of before.  The fever was gone in 2 days after that.  I 
looked it up and DA is a combo of an abx (can't remember which one offhand) and 
a 
steroid.

I've never had to use Doxycycline yet, so haven't looked it up, but it seems 
to be more specific in what it targets than Clavamox.  For one thing, Doxy is 
prescribed for the blood parasite hemobartonella and seems to be more powerful 
in its action than Clavamox or Amoxicillan.  But it can have a caustic effect 
on mucous membranes and administering it is more problematic.  I guess the 
idea is to kill whatever bacteria may be the culprit without OVERkilling.  If 
there is a choice that can be made, I will opt for the one with the least 
gnarly 
taste and fewest possible side-effects.

Sally in San Jose 




RE: For Jenn: relative merits of Doxy and Clavamox?

2005-04-27 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
That's a good idea! Thanks Nina--Kerry

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Hey Kerry,
I got the gel caps from Whole Foods.  The first time I went to buy them 
they didn't have any small ones, so I re-used the ones from my Co-Q10.
Nina

MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:

>Thanks Michelle and Nina--can I ask where you buy the gel caps?  Kerry
>
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>I've begun to put Grace's Dox in a small gel cap, (even the smallest
gel
>
>cap I could find is too big, I trim  it with a scissors first), then 
>cover it with a drop of salmon oil to make sure it's slippery.  So far,

>it seems to be working.
>Nina
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Re: For Jenn: relative merits of Doxy and Clavamox?

2005-04-27 Thread Nina
Hey Kerry,
I got the gel caps from Whole Foods.  The first time I went to buy them 
they didn't have any small ones, so I re-used the ones from my Co-Q10.
Nina

MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:
Thanks Michelle and Nina--can I ask where you buy the gel caps?  Kerry
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I've begun to put Grace's Dox in a small gel cap, (even the smallest gel
cap I could find is too big, I trim  it with a scissors first), then 
cover it with a drop of salmon oil to make sure it's slippery.  So far, 
it seems to be working.
Nina




RE: For Jenn: relative merits of Doxy and Clavamox?

2005-04-27 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Thanks Michelle and Nina--can I ask where you buy the gel caps?  Kerry

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I've begun to put Grace's Dox in a small gel cap, (even the smallest gel

cap I could find is too big, I trim  it with a scissors first), then 
cover it with a drop of salmon oil to make sure it's slippery.  So far, 
it seems to be working.
Nina

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>Doxicycline definitely does that if it gets in their mouth at all.   I
cover 
>it with Nutristat before pilling with it for that and other reasons.
>Michellle
>
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>
><< Jenn-Thank you so much for that piece of info that I didn't
know---I
>had to give one of my negs 2 medications simultaneously about a year
>ago, and one made him foam at the mouth and vomit. I called the vet
>afetr a couple of days on inflicting this misery on the poor cat, and
>the vet said to stop giving it to him. I've a feeling it may have been
>Clavamox. I'll be on red alert next time they want to preescribe it.
>Apart from anything else it was a total waste of precious kitty .
>Kerry >>
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Re: For Jenn: relative merits of Doxy and Clavamox?

2005-04-27 Thread Nina
I've begun to put Grace's Dox in a small gel cap, (even the smallest gel 
cap I could find is too big, I trim  it with a scissors first), then 
cover it with a drop of salmon oil to make sure it's slippery.  So far, 
it seems to be working.
Nina

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Doxicycline definitely does that if it gets in their mouth at all.   I cover 
it with Nutristat before pilling with it for that and other reasons.
Michellle

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<< Jenn-Thank you so much for that piece of info that I didn't know---I
had to give one of my negs 2 medications simultaneously about a year
ago, and one made him foam at the mouth and vomit. I called the vet
afetr a couple of days on inflicting this misery on the poor cat, and
the vet said to stop giving it to him. I've a feeling it may have been
Clavamox. I'll be on red alert next time they want to preescribe it.
Apart from anything else it was a total waste of precious kitty .
Kerry >>

 




Re: For Jenn: relative merits of Doxy and Clavamox?

2005-04-27 Thread Lernermichelle
Doxicycline definitely does that if it gets in their mouth at all.   I cover 
it with Nutristat before pilling with it for that and other reasons.
Michellle

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<< Jenn-Thank you so much for that piece of info that I didn't know---I
had to give one of my negs 2 medications simultaneously about a year
ago, and one made him foam at the mouth and vomit. I called the vet
afetr a couple of days on inflicting this misery on the poor cat, and
the vet said to stop giving it to him. I've a feeling it may have been
Clavamox. I'll be on red alert next time they want to preescribe it.
Apart from anything else it was a total waste of precious kitty .
Kerry >>




Re: For Jenn: relative merits of Doxy and Clavamox?

2005-04-27 Thread TenHouseCats
interesting! at the sanctuary, doxy was the one that caused the
foaming at the mouth, and the incredible avoidance behavior! it's
really bad for the ego when you go into the special-needs room, where
many of the sweetest cats were, including quite a number of good
friends, and watch them run away from you en masse! and the, "really,
this is GOOD for you; you'll feel better in a few days..." litany
never worked at all. i've had no trouble getting clavamox into most
cats (maybe we shouldn't let them read these posts? gives them
ammunition to use against us? "hey, next time they give you clavamox,
react REALLY badly to it, okay? that'll show them!")

then there's always amoxy, better known to most cats i know by it's
clinical name, "yucky pink stuff."

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For Jenn: relative merits of Doxy and Clavamox?

2005-04-27 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
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Jenn-Thank you so much for that piece of info that 
I didn't know---I had to give one of my negs 2 medications simultaneously about 
a year ago, and one made him foam at the mouth and vomit. I called the vet afetr 
a couple of days on inflicting this misery on the poor cat, and the 
vet said to stop giving it to him. I've a feeling it may have been 
Clavamox. I'll be on red alert next time they want to preescribe it. Apart from 
anything else it was a total waste of precious kitty . 
Kerry

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Just to point out really unscientific personal experience, 
clavamox TASTES REALLY BAD, and it's hard to get it INSIDE the cat, so I usually 
ask for anything BUT clavamox, because what good does it do if it tastes so bad 
they gag and puke and spit it all out? 4 out of 5 shelter cats that we treated 
for upper respiratory with clavamox gagged, retched, and foamed at the 
mouth during dosage.
Jenn
 
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Re: relative merits of Doxy and Clavamox?

2005-04-27 Thread felv



Just to point out really unscientific personal experience, 
clavamox TASTES REALLY BAD, and it's hard to get it INSIDE the cat, so I usually 
ask for anything BUT clavamox, because what good does it do if it tastes so bad 
they gag and puke and spit it all out? 4 out of 5 shelter cats that we treated 
for upper respiratory with clavamox gagged, retched, and foamed at the 
mouth during dosage.
Jenn
 
~~~I 
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!
 
If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address 
you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!
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RE: relative merits of Doxy and Clavamox?

2005-04-26 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Thanks for the insight, Nina. I'd be interested to know names of any of
the books that you particularly like/recommend (as recommended by Gypsy
and Zevon's reader). best, Kerry

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Kerry,
Apparently, Dox is used long-term in fighting Lyme disease etc. in 
humans.  Some people are on it for over a year.  If I remember 
correctly, Dox does not "kill" the parasite it's fighting, it retards 
growth.  Patients with healthy immune systems will fight off the 
parasite with the help of Dox keeping it under control, but it takes a 
long time.  I guess because Grace's immune system is not up to par, 
she's unable to get whatever parasite is bothering her under control.   
I'm not pleased about it, but I don't seem to have any choice.

As far as male vs. female in picking up my moods, I'd have to say it's 
more an individual thing.  All my animals respond to my moods, (poor 
things!  I have to get some sort of assistance with regulating my mood 
swings!).  Well, come to think of it, Ursula couldn't care less, unless 
it's directed specifically at her.  I think it's more about how in tune 
I am with them, so that I notice things that might get by, for instance,

my husband.  I'm always picking up on things involving my clients dogs 
that they marvel at.  I don't think I'm communicating telepathically, I 
just use my experience and am hyper sensitive to their needs.  I've 
always been "in tune" with animals, but caring for the FelV cats has 
revved it up a notch.  Knowing they're a gift I may not be able to keep,

and having to keep such a watchful eye on illness, has made me even more

aware than I used to be.  Speaking of AC, I've just ordered some books 
suggested by the lady that read Gypsy and Zevon for me.  I'll let you 
know if I have any breakthroughs!
Nina


MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:

>Thanks Nina.
>I never realized that antibiotics could be given longterm. It's
>wonderful that it's having such a positive effect on Grace. Yes, I'm
>sure you're right--that she was mourning Jazz.
>Interesting that you are so aware of your furballs taking on your mood.
>I should observe mine more closely. I know my female negative kitty
>Trixie is very sensitive to human mood. D'you think it applies to the
>boys too?!
>Kerry
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RE: relative merits of Doxy and Clavamox?

2005-04-25 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.

Thanks Nina.
I never realized that antibiotics could be given longterm. It's
wonderful that it's having such a positive effect on Grace. Yes, I'm
sure you're right--that she was mourning Jazz.
Interesting that you are so aware of your furballs taking on your mood.
I should observe mine more closely. I know my female negative kitty
Trixie is very sensitive to human mood. D'you think it applies to the
boys too?!
Kerry
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When Grace crashed the first time, she was put on two separate doses of 
Clavomox.  She would finally start to respond by the 10th or 11th day of

treatment, only to crash again two or three days after we stopped.  
Clavomox and Amoxicillin seem to be the ones the vets reach for first.  
Metronidazole and Baytril are usually prescribed for IBD symptoms.  My 
Internist recommended Dox for Grace "because it was a broader spectrum" 
antibiotic, (which she also said about Baytril, when she put Gypsy on it

and Metronidazole).  Even though Grace's blood test failed to reveal 
what it is she's fighting, the Dox did the trick.  She is on a daily 
dose of 25mg of Dox, the vet told me 2x daily, but she does great on 1x 
daily, (after an initial loading dose of 30 days, 2x daily).  When I try

to wean her off the Dox, she gets sick.  I've finally given in and am 
keeping her on it.  She's doing so great, runs, leaps, cavorts, just 
like she should.  She scared the heck out of me the week following 
Jazz's death.  Her third eyelids were up, she was lethargic, she hardly 
ate anything.  I've since come to the conclusion that she was mourning 
our Jazz.  Of course, all of my babies are very in tune with me and I 
was a total wreck.
Nina

MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:

>Dear all
>I guess I'm trying to educate myself today--does anyone know why a vet
>would choose to prescribe one over the other--I've been prescribed Doxi
>and Clavamox at different times by different vets for the same
>problem--URIs. (Baytril hasn't come up so far.)
>thanks again
>kerry
>
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>I have found that my FeLV+ cats with URI's respond better to Baytril or

>Doxicycline than to Clavamox, though it sounds like Roxie is responding
>to the 
>clavamox (knock on wood!)
>Michelle
>
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><< Well, good news.  Roxie seems to be much better.  She had improved 
>yesterday, but was not completely back to normal and then this morning
>she ran up the 
>stairs for breakfast and ate well again.  Her breathing is completly
>back to 
>normal.  I am so happy.  Of course, we'll have to keep a close eye on
>her.  My 
>vet wants to do a 2nd round of Clavomox (antibiotics) just to make sure
>we 
>completely clear the upper respiratory infection and I am going to pick
>up a  
>bronchodialter medication in case she has trouble again, but hopefully
>this is 
>an isolated incident caused by the URI.  
> 
>Thank you all so much!
>Lisa  >>
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Re: relative merits of Doxy and Clavamox?

2005-04-25 Thread Nina
Kerry,
Apparently, Dox is used long-term in fighting Lyme disease etc. in 
humans.  Some people are on it for over a year.  If I remember 
correctly, Dox does not "kill" the parasite it's fighting, it retards 
growth.  Patients with healthy immune systems will fight off the 
parasite with the help of Dox keeping it under control, but it takes a 
long time.  I guess because Grace's immune system is not up to par, 
she's unable to get whatever parasite is bothering her under control.   
I'm not pleased about it, but I don't seem to have any choice.

As far as male vs. female in picking up my moods, I'd have to say it's 
more an individual thing.  All my animals respond to my moods, (poor 
things!  I have to get some sort of assistance with regulating my mood 
swings!).  Well, come to think of it, Ursula couldn't care less, unless 
it's directed specifically at her.  I think it's more about how in tune 
I am with them, so that I notice things that might get by, for instance, 
my husband.  I'm always picking up on things involving my clients dogs 
that they marvel at.  I don't think I'm communicating telepathically, I 
just use my experience and am hyper sensitive to their needs.  I've 
always been "in tune" with animals, but caring for the FelV cats has 
revved it up a notch.  Knowing they're a gift I may not be able to keep, 
and having to keep such a watchful eye on illness, has made me even more 
aware than I used to be.  Speaking of AC, I've just ordered some books 
suggested by the lady that read Gypsy and Zevon for me.  I'll let you 
know if I have any breakthroughs!
Nina

MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:
Thanks Nina.
I never realized that antibiotics could be given longterm. It's
wonderful that it's having such a positive effect on Grace. Yes, I'm
sure you're right--that she was mourning Jazz.
Interesting that you are so aware of your furballs taking on your mood.
I should observe mine more closely. I know my female negative kitty
Trixie is very sensitive to human mood. D'you think it applies to the
boys too?!
Kerry
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Re: relative merits of Doxy and Clavamox?

2005-04-25 Thread TenHouseCats
good point, nina--some cats just seem to need to remain on antibiotics
(despite the obvious drawbacks) to keep from relapsing...

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Re: relative merits of Doxy and Clavamox?

2005-04-25 Thread Nina
When Grace crashed the first time, she was put on two separate doses of 
Clavomox.  She would finally start to respond by the 10th or 11th day of 
treatment, only to crash again two or three days after we stopped.  
Clavomox and Amoxicillin seem to be the ones the vets reach for first.  
Metronidazole and Baytril are usually prescribed for IBD symptoms.  My 
Internist recommended Dox for Grace "because it was a broader spectrum" 
antibiotic, (which she also said about Baytril, when she put Gypsy on it 
and Metronidazole).  Even though Grace's blood test failed to reveal 
what it is she's fighting, the Dox did the trick.  She is on a daily 
dose of 25mg of Dox, the vet told me 2x daily, but she does great on 1x 
daily, (after an initial loading dose of 30 days, 2x daily).  When I try 
to wean her off the Dox, she gets sick.  I've finally given in and am 
keeping her on it.  She's doing so great, runs, leaps, cavorts, just 
like she should.  She scared the heck out of me the week following 
Jazz's death.  Her third eyelids were up, she was lethargic, she hardly 
ate anything.  I've since come to the conclusion that she was mourning 
our Jazz.  Of course, all of my babies are very in tune with me and I 
was a total wreck.
Nina

MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:
Dear all
I guess I'm trying to educate myself today--does anyone know why a vet
would choose to prescribe one over the other--I've been prescribed Doxi
and Clavamox at different times by different vets for the same
problem--URIs. (Baytril hasn't come up so far.)
thanks again
kerry
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I have found that my FeLV+ cats with URI's respond better to Baytril or 
Doxicycline than to Clavamox, though it sounds like Roxie is responding
to the 
clavamox (knock on wood!)
Michelle

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<< Well, good news.  Roxie seems to be much better.  She had improved 
yesterday, but was not completely back to normal and then this morning
she ran up the 
stairs for breakfast and ate well again.  Her breathing is completly
back to 
normal.  I am so happy.  Of course, we'll have to keep a close eye on
her.  My 
vet wants to do a 2nd round of Clavomox (antibiotics) just to make sure
we 
completely clear the upper respiratory infection and I am going to pick
up a  
bronchodialter medication in case she has trouble again, but hopefully
this is 
an isolated incident caused by the URI.  

Thank you all so much!
Lisa  >>
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RE: relative merits of Doxy and Clavamox?

2005-04-25 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Thanks Michelle!

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Doxi is stronger and broader spectrum, and not what vet usually use for 
URI's. Clavamox is more specific to URI's and not as strong but
generally works, so 
vets prescribe that. I have just found that with my positives it does
not 
always work, while doxi does so far.

Baytril was prescribed for my cat Patches when she had pneumonia, which
is 
actually a lower respiratory tract infection, so maybe that is a
difference. I 
have given baytril in hard to treat URI cases as well. It is a very
powerful 
drug though and can have side effects, so it is better to use something
else 
unless you really need it.

Michelle


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<< Dear all
I guess I'm trying to educate myself today--does anyone know why a vet
would choose to prescribe one over the other--I've been prescribed Doxi
and Clavamox at different times by different vets for the same
problem--URIs. (Baytril hasn't come up so far.)
thanks again
kerry >>


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Re: relative merits of Doxy and Clavamox?

2005-04-25 Thread Lernermichelle
Doxi is stronger and broader spectrum, and not what vet usually use for 
URI's. Clavamox is more specific to URI's and not as strong but generally 
works, so 
vets prescribe that. I have just found that with my positives it does not 
always work, while doxi does so far.

Baytril was prescribed for my cat Patches when she had pneumonia, which is 
actually a lower respiratory tract infection, so maybe that is a difference. I 
have given baytril in hard to treat URI cases as well. It is a very powerful 
drug though and can have side effects, so it is better to use something else 
unless you really need it.

Michelle


In a message dated 4/25/05 12:51:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Dear all
I guess I'm trying to educate myself today--does anyone know why a vet
would choose to prescribe one over the other--I've been prescribed Doxi
and Clavamox at different times by different vets for the same
problem--URIs. (Baytril hasn't come up so far.)
thanks again
kerry >>




relative merits of Doxy and Clavamox?

2005-04-25 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Dear all
I guess I'm trying to educate myself today--does anyone know why a vet
would choose to prescribe one over the other--I've been prescribed Doxi
and Clavamox at different times by different vets for the same
problem--URIs. (Baytril hasn't come up so far.)
thanks again
kerry

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I have found that my FeLV+ cats with URI's respond better to Baytril or 
Doxicycline than to Clavamox, though it sounds like Roxie is responding
to the 
clavamox (knock on wood!)
Michelle

In a message dated 4/25/05 9:43:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Well, good news.  Roxie seems to be much better.  She had improved 
yesterday, but was not completely back to normal and then this morning
she ran up the 
stairs for breakfast and ate well again.  Her breathing is completly
back to 
normal.  I am so happy.  Of course, we'll have to keep a close eye on
her.  My 
vet wants to do a 2nd round of Clavomox (antibiotics) just to make sure
we 
completely clear the upper respiratory infection and I am going to pick
up a  
bronchodialter medication in case she has trouble again, but hopefully
this is 
an isolated incident caused by the URI.  
 
Thank you all so much!
Lisa  >>


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