Re: [FFmpeg-devel] OPW, MPEG-4 Audio Lossless Coding (ALS) encoder

[Michael Niedermayer]

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 08:17:26PM +0200, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 08:08:20PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 07:43:53PM +0200, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
> > > I am willing to mentor anyone who doesn't mind that I won't be on IRC.
> > > I don't mind being available via an kind of IM that runs well on
> > > Android, but IRC never worked out for me.
> > > I will probably be of only limited help with questions specific to audio 
> > > coding
> > > though.
> > 
> > > Btw: I wonder if it wouldn't make sense to just have pool of (co-)mentors
> > > for the kind of questions that most of us can answer?
> > > Just feels like it makes sense if people can chose whoever they feel
> > > most comfortable communicating with. Or is that a stupid idea?
> > 
> > id say applicants should post these questions to the ML so the whole
> > pool of developers can help
> 
> That works for some things, but when you're new I think you sometimes
> don't even know exactly where to start, and you need more of a real
> discussion.
> In a medium with lower latency than email.
> But maybe I'm just too biased from how I see things work at work.

sure, i think we thought of slightly different cases

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] OPW, MPEG-4 Audio Lossless Coding (ALS) encoder

[Reimar Döffinger]

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 08:08:20PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 07:43:53PM +0200, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
> > I am willing to mentor anyone who doesn't mind that I won't be on IRC.
> > I don't mind being available via an kind of IM that runs well on
> > Android, but IRC never worked out for me.
> > I will probably be of only limited help with questions specific to audio 
> > coding
> > though.
> 
> > Btw: I wonder if it wouldn't make sense to just have pool of (co-)mentors
> > for the kind of questions that most of us can answer?
> > Just feels like it makes sense if people can chose whoever they feel
> > most comfortable communicating with. Or is that a stupid idea?
> 
> id say applicants should post these questions to the ML so the whole
> pool of developers can help

That works for some things, but when you're new I think you sometimes
don't even know exactly where to start, and you need more of a real
discussion.
In a medium with lower latency than email.
But maybe I'm just too biased from how I see things work at work.
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] OPW, MPEG-4 Audio Lossless Coding (ALS) encoder

[Michael Niedermayer]

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 07:43:53PM +0200, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 01:39:36PM +0200, Thilo Borgmann wrote:
> > Am 25.09.14 13:32, schrieb Michael Niedermayer:
> > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:28:19PM +0200, Thilo Borgmann wrote:
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> >  I volunteer as co-mentor becuase my time is very limited currently.
> >  However, I'm willing to help as much as I can.
> > 
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks very much for volunteering as my mentor.
> > >>
> > >> my pleasure. I hope Paul or Stefano agree to mentor you as well.
> > > 
> > > someone please update the mentor & backup mentor fields on the wiki
> > > once its decied who mentors and who is backup mentor
> > 
> > Added myself as backup mentor, will keep an eye on it.
> 
> I am willing to mentor anyone who doesn't mind that I won't be on IRC.
> I don't mind being available via an kind of IM that runs well on
> Android, but IRC never worked out for me.
> I will probably be of only limited help with questions specific to audio 
> coding
> though.

> Btw: I wonder if it wouldn't make sense to just have pool of (co-)mentors
> for the kind of questions that most of us can answer?
> Just feels like it makes sense if people can chose whoever they feel
> most comfortable communicating with. Or is that a stupid idea?

id say applicants should post these questions to the ML so the whole
pool of developers can help

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] OPW, MPEG-4 Audio Lossless Coding (ALS) encoder

[Reimar Döffinger]

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 01:39:36PM +0200, Thilo Borgmann wrote:
> Am 25.09.14 13:32, schrieb Michael Niedermayer:
> > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:28:19PM +0200, Thilo Borgmann wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
>  I volunteer as co-mentor becuase my time is very limited currently.
>  However, I'm willing to help as much as I can.
> 
> >>>
> >>> Thanks very much for volunteering as my mentor.
> >>
> >> my pleasure. I hope Paul or Stefano agree to mentor you as well.
> > 
> > someone please update the mentor & backup mentor fields on the wiki
> > once its decied who mentors and who is backup mentor
> 
> Added myself as backup mentor, will keep an eye on it.

I am willing to mentor anyone who doesn't mind that I won't be on IRC.
I don't mind being available via an kind of IM that runs well on
Android, but IRC never worked out for me.
I will probably be of only limited help with questions specific to audio coding
though.
Btw: I wonder if it wouldn't make sense to just have pool of (co-)mentors
for the kind of questions that most of us can answer?
Just feels like it makes sense if people can chose whoever they feel
most comfortable communicating with. Or is that a stupid idea?
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] OPW, MPEG-4 Audio Lossless Coding (ALS) encoder

[Thilo Borgmann]

Am 25.09.14 13:32, schrieb Michael Niedermayer:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:28:19PM +0200, Thilo Borgmann wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
 I volunteer as co-mentor becuase my time is very limited currently.
 However, I'm willing to help as much as I can.

>>>
>>> Thanks very much for volunteering as my mentor.
>>
>> my pleasure. I hope Paul or Stefano agree to mentor you as well.
> 
> someone please update the mentor & backup mentor fields on the wiki
> once its decied who mentors and who is backup mentor

Added myself as backup mentor, will keep an eye on it.

-Thilo

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] OPW, MPEG-4 Audio Lossless Coding (ALS) encoder

[Michael Niedermayer]

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:28:19PM +0200, Thilo Borgmann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> >> I volunteer as co-mentor becuase my time is very limited currently.
> >> However, I'm willing to help as much as I can.
> >>
> > 
> > Thanks very much for volunteering as my mentor.
> 
> my pleasure. I hope Paul or Stefano agree to mentor you as well.

someone please update the mentor & backup mentor fields on the wiki
once its decied who mentors and who is backup mentor

thx

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] OPW, MPEG-4 Audio Lossless Coding (ALS) encoder

[Thilo Borgmann]

Hi,

>> I volunteer as co-mentor becuase my time is very limited currently.
>> However, I'm willing to help as much as I can.
>>
> 
> Thanks very much for volunteering as my mentor.

my pleasure. I hope Paul or Stefano agree to mentor you as well.

>> For a start, Juliet, you should setup an account on github and fork a
>> repository
>> from FFmpeg. Github's online help explains it quite good.
>>
> 
> I've created my github Account  and I've cloned
> ffmpeg already. Currently downloading to compile,I'll like to know what you
> would want me to work on as a qualification task.

The project definition states to implement floating-point decoding, IIRC.
This is a good task, I will send you a private message with the things you need
for start working on that.

-Thilo

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] OPW, MPEG-4 Audio Lossless Coding (ALS) encoder

[Juliet Fru]

Hello Thilo,


>
> I volunteer as co-mentor becuase my time is very limited currently.
> However, I'm willing to help as much as I can.
>

Thanks very much for volunteering as my mentor.


>
> For a start, Juliet, you should setup an account on github and fork a
> repository
> from FFmpeg. Github's online help explains it quite good.
>

I've created my github Account  and I've cloned
ffmpeg already. Currently downloading to compile,I'll like to know what you
would want me to work on as a qualification task.

Thanks,
Juliet
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] OPW, MPEG-4 Audio Lossless Coding (ALS) encoder

[Thilo Borgmann]

Am 24.09.14 16:11, schrieb Juliet Fru:
> [...]
>> thilo, paul and stefano would be the right ones to talk to
>> assuming one of them agrees to mentor this in OPW (the page is laregly
>> copied from our last GSOC)
>>
> 
> Thanks would contact ASAP.

I volunteer as co-mentor becuase my time is very limited currently.
However, I'm willing to help as much as I can.

For a start, Juliet, you should setup an account on github and fork a repository
from FFmpeg. Github's online help explains it quite good.

-Thilo

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] OPW, MPEG-4 Audio Lossless Coding (ALS) encoder

[Juliet Fru]

Hello,


> added you to the page
> btw you can retry to register on trac/wiki, ive marked your last
> attempt as ham so it might work now, or try from a different IP as
> the one you used is on several dnsbl lists.
>
>
I'll retry the the registration again.

>
> thilo, paul and stefano would be the right ones to talk to
> assuming one of them agrees to mentor this in OPW (the page is laregly
> copied from our last GSOC)
>

Thanks would contact ASAP.


Regards,
Juliet
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] OPW, MPEG-4 Audio Lossless Coding (ALS) encoder

[Michael Niedermayer]

Hi

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 02:13:17PM +0100, Juliet Fru wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am Juliet Fru, a sophomore, Computer Engineering student of the
> University of Buea. I'm intererested in working on the  MPEG-4 Audio
> Lossless Coding (ALS) encoder project. I'll like to be added as a
> propective student for this project.

added you to the page
btw you can retry to register on trac/wiki, ive marked your last
attempt as ham so it might work now, or try from a different IP as
the one you used is on several dnsbl lists.


> I'll also like to get some
> pointers on how to get started on this project and what is need to
> complete the qualification task.

thilo, paul and stefano would be the right ones to talk to
assuming one of them agrees to mentor this in OPW (the page is laregly
copied from our last GSOC)


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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] OPW, MPEG-4 Audio Lossless Coding (ALS) encoder

[Juliet Fru]

Hello Thilo,


> Yes, my fault, sorry! Then, Juliet, please ignore my statement and wait
> for the
> OPW mentor (Paul) or someone else attached to OPW to answer on this.
>

I'll start working on my application, while waiting for instructions on how
to submit my qualification task.

Thanks,
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] OPW, MPEG-4 Audio Lossless Coding (ALS) encoder

[Thilo Borgmann]

Am 24.09.14 15:41, schrieb Clément Bœsch:
> Hi Thilo,
> 
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 03:30:41PM +0200, Thilo Borgmann wrote:
>> Hi Juliet,
>>
>>> I am Juliet Fru, a sophomore, Computer Engineering student of the
>>> University of Buea. I'm intererested in working on the  MPEG-4 Audio
>>> Lossless Coding (ALS) encoder project. I'll like to be added as a
>>> propective student for this project. I'll also like to get some
>>> pointers on how to get started on this project and what is need to
>>> complete the qualification task.
>>
>> you have found the description of this project on our Google Summer of Code
>> project ideas page. Unfortunately, FFmpeg was not part of GSoC this year, so 
>> you
>> might very well work on this project but you will not be part of the GSoC
>> program - which means there is no funding nor certificate nor anything like 
>> that.
>>
>> Of course we would appreciate it if you are interested in bringing the ALS
>> encoder into the codebase in spite of not being enlisted to GSoC. In that 
>> case
>> we are happy to give you a hand, help you prepare a github repo for the 
>> existing
>> encoder and things like that. Just let us know.
>>
> 
> OPW ≠ GSoC. We did actually copy the task from GSoC to OPW. You can see
> them at
> http://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/OPW/2014-12#MPEG-4AudioLosslessCodingALSencoder

Yes, my fault, sorry! Then, Juliet, please ignore my statement and wait for the
OPW mentor (Paul) or someone else attached to OPW to answer on this.

-Thilo

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] OPW, MPEG-4 Audio Lossless Coding (ALS) encoder

[Clément Bœsch]

Hi Thilo,

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 03:30:41PM +0200, Thilo Borgmann wrote:
> Hi Juliet,
> 
> > I am Juliet Fru, a sophomore, Computer Engineering student of the
> > University of Buea. I'm intererested in working on the  MPEG-4 Audio
> > Lossless Coding (ALS) encoder project. I'll like to be added as a
> > propective student for this project. I'll also like to get some
> > pointers on how to get started on this project and what is need to
> > complete the qualification task.
> 
> you have found the description of this project on our Google Summer of Code
> project ideas page. Unfortunately, FFmpeg was not part of GSoC this year, so 
> you
> might very well work on this project but you will not be part of the GSoC
> program - which means there is no funding nor certificate nor anything like 
> that.
> 
> Of course we would appreciate it if you are interested in bringing the ALS
> encoder into the codebase in spite of not being enlisted to GSoC. In that case
> we are happy to give you a hand, help you prepare a github repo for the 
> existing
> encoder and things like that. Just let us know.
> 

OPW ≠ GSoC. We did actually copy the task from GSoC to OPW. You can see
them at
http://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/OPW/2014-12#MPEG-4AudioLosslessCodingALSencoder

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] OPW, MPEG-4 Audio Lossless Coding (ALS) encoder

[Thilo Borgmann]

Hi Juliet,

> I am Juliet Fru, a sophomore, Computer Engineering student of the
> University of Buea. I'm intererested in working on the  MPEG-4 Audio
> Lossless Coding (ALS) encoder project. I'll like to be added as a
> propective student for this project. I'll also like to get some
> pointers on how to get started on this project and what is need to
> complete the qualification task.

you have found the description of this project on our Google Summer of Code
project ideas page. Unfortunately, FFmpeg was not part of GSoC this year, so you
might very well work on this project but you will not be part of the GSoC
program - which means there is no funding nor certificate nor anything like 
that.

Of course we would appreciate it if you are interested in bringing the ALS
encoder into the codebase in spite of not being enlisted to GSoC. In that case
we are happy to give you a hand, help you prepare a github repo for the existing
encoder and things like that. Just let us know.

-Thilo
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