[filmscanners] RE: LS 4000 Green Cast

2002-01-10 Thread Jawed Ashraf

Do a very low resolution RAW scan.  Do this by choosing NEF from the File
Format drop down list after you've hit the Scan button.  Make sure to set
the resolution to something like 90dpi (actually that makes a tiny 39K
image, maybe that's too small...).  Post it to a webby somewhere so we can
have a look and maybe help diagnose...

Also, download a free trial version of Vuescan from www.hamrick.com and see
what you get.  Might help to eliminate the software configuration from your
problem.  It may well be something is happening in your scanner.

Jawed

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Greene
 Sent: 10 January 2002 01:20
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [filmscanners] Re: LS 4000 Green Cast


 I want to add to the message below, the fact that the green cast
 only occurs
 on slides.  scans of negatives are fine.

 I recently purchased a Nikon Supercoolscan 4000.  I am using
 Nikon Scan 3.1
 on a mac with OS 9.1.  All of my pre-scans and scans have an extreme green
 cast, to the point that all other colors are obliterated.  I had the scame
 scanner 6 months ago and did not experience this problem.  I tried getting
 help from Nikon.  After many hours, turning off color controls and various
 settings, the tech support person told me I'd have to go for help
 with the
 big boys upstairs.  That meant, calling and waiting for another tech
 support lower level person to send me on upstairs,  which I was then
 told by a voice recording that it was a two hour wait.  I gave up.  I'd
 appreciate if someone could assist me in less time.

 Martin

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[filmscanners] RE: LS4000 vs IV ED

2002-01-10 Thread Alex Zabrovsky

No jawed, I must be miss your posting.
Would you please to remind me the links ?
Was the IV ED sued to that test ?

Regards,
Alex Z

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Alex, did you download the TIFF files from the comparisons I posted of
single- and multi-pass scans?

Jawed

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 Subject: [filmscanners] LS4000 vs IV ED


 Considering the IV ED to be acquired in near future I just realized it
 hasn't multi-sample scanning ability offered by LS-4000 and some other
 models.
 The question is how this feature contributes to the scanning
 quality in real
 life. Do you really notice the difference between regular, one-pass result
 and those from multi-sampling ?
 Will I really miss this ability scanning either prints or slides ?

 Additional questions:
 Is the IV ED multi-pass enabled (as an opposite to multi-sampling)
 (at least with Vuescan) ?

 Regards,
 Alex Z

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[filmscanners] RE: Clipping

2002-01-10 Thread Mike Bloor

At 17:44 08/01/02 +, Jawed wrote:
Some software, unfortunately, makes it hard to tell where the histogram
ends, if there are very few pixels of a given tonal value.  Photoshop 6 is
pretty clear.  Paint Shop Pro 6 isn't at all.  Is PSP7 better?

What if the base line of the histogram were a different colour for the
range where there were pixels, even if there were not enough pixels to show
on the histogram plot ?  That way it would be easy to set black and white
points to include everything if you want, or to know if you were omitting
anything.

Over to you Ed.


Mike Bloor


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[filmscanners] Re: Clipping

2002-01-10 Thread Arthur Entlich



Jawed Ashraf wrote:

  London, UK.
 
  I was intrigued to discover years ago that houses aren't build from
brick in
  Canada, they fall apart because of the dry climate.
 

Don't tell that to anyone living on the West (Wet) Coast...

What do you think those trees with 30 foot around trunks grow with?

  From the rain forest,

Art





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[filmscanners] Re: Clipping

2002-01-10 Thread

In a message dated 1/10/2002 6:15:24 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What if the base line of the histogram were a different colour for the
  range where there were pixels, even if there were not enough pixels to show
  on the histogram plot ?  That way it would be easy to set black and white
  points to include everything if you want, or to know if you were omitting
  anything.

  Over to you Ed.

It's simpler to just set the histogram type to logarithmic.

Regards,
Ed Hamrick


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[filmscanners] RE: Clipping

2002-01-10 Thread Jawed Ashraf

Yeah, I know.  Vancouver's supposed to have a British-ish climate, LOL...
I was there in summer, not for long enough to be able to judge...

Jawed

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 Jawed Ashraf wrote:

   London, UK.
  
   I was intrigued to discover years ago that houses aren't build from
 brick in
   Canada, they fall apart because of the dry climate.
  

 Don't tell that to anyone living on the West (Wet) Coast...

 What do you think those trees with 30 foot around trunks grow with?

   From the rain forest,

 Art




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[filmscanners] RE: VueScan Suggestions Needed

2002-01-10 Thread Jawed Ashraf


  I'll try to combine these suggestions and summarize
  them to the list.  Could people e-mail these suggestions
  to me directly to keep from cluttering up this mailing
  list?

 Ah, well, if we can chat about hifi here, I can't see that enhancement
 suggestions would be too off-topic. And besides, some suggestions might
 act as catalysts to remind other people of stuff they'd like to see!

Agreed.

And, I do think there's not enough on the subject of Fuji Frontier printing.

Jawed


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[filmscanners] Re: VueScan Suggestions Needed

2002-01-10 Thread John Matturri

I second this idea, if it is practical.

Jawed Ashraf wrote:

 The Photoshop approach is addictive:

 up/down arrow increments by one unit
 shift held down at the same time increments by 10 units.
 mouse-wheel up down is synonymous with up/down arrow (sorry Mac users,
 you're *really* missing out with no wheel on your mouse...)

 Sliders become much less interesting, then.  They can retain their function
 as gross manipulators.

 Jawed

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  Sent: 10 January 2002 14:19
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [filmscanners] RE: VueScan Suggestions Needed
 
 
  I'll have to think a bit to come up with my top three, but one
  suggestion I
  have has to do with the sliders that were added in recent versions. After
  working with them a bit I find they're good for making gross shifts in
  settings but not so good for finer ones, which I frequently need. I find
  myself resorting back to simply highlighting and entering the
  setting I want
  after I get relatively close with the slider. (again, the addition of the
  histogram has made scanning much, much easier). I would suggest that in
  addition to or instead of the sliders, having what I believe they call
  'spinners'. These are little up and down arrow keys that increment or
  decrement (is that a word?) the setting, by individual 'clicks' or by
  holding the arrow key down and spinning through to the setting
  you want. Is
  it possible to have both sliders and spinners?
 
  If this product gets much better we'll be complaining that it should be
  loading slides automatically while we're in the bathtub!
 


--
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[filmscanners] Re: LS4000 vs IV ED

2002-01-10 Thread Arthur Entlich

I took a look at the website and the Astia samples.  You need to fix the
titles under the samples, they are either missing (in the cropped images
once they appear) or in the case of the full images, the top two are
listed as Vuescan Single pass, and the bottom one as Nikoscan.  I
suspect the middle image is a multipass scan??

Didn't check the other film types.

Art

Jawed Ashraf wrote:

   Arthur, you'll be pleased to know, all the questions you raise are
tackled
   in my webby for perusal:
  
   http://www.cupidity.force9.co.uk/Scanners/LS40/tests.htm
  
   Jawed
   (LS40/Coolscan IV owner)
  
  
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  Subject: [filmscanners] Re: LS4000 vs IV ED
  
  
  
  
  Dickbo wrote:
  
- Original Message -
From: Alex Zabrovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
  Do you really notice the difference between regular, one-pass
result
   
   and those from multi-sampling ?
   
   
yes you do
  
  
  Multipass results are most useful when you have noisy shadows.  By
  adding up several scans, the random noise is averaged out of the scan by
  software.  If the scanner has very good dynamic range which extends into
  the shadow areas, you won't miss this  (the Polaroid SS4000 is reported
  to not need multi pass scanning, for instance).
  
   
   
   Will I really miss this ability scanning either prints or slides ?
   
   
yes you will
   
   
   
  
  
  I haven't kept up on Vuescan's full abilities, but Ed might have
  programed the ability to use multipass with the Nikon IV.  I think he
  was successful in doing so in an earlier lower end model.  Ask about
  this from someone using the scanner with Vuescan.
  
  Art
  
  
  





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[filmscanners] RE: LS4000 vs IV ED

2002-01-10 Thread Jawed Ashraf

Sounds like you whizzed through too quickly.  The top image uses *SLIDE*
scanning in Vuescan, the middle image uses *IMAGE* scanning in Vuescan and
the bottom one is Nikon Scan.

For the crops the mouse pointer is captioned.  Plus, they are described in
more detail in the How the results are presented section:

http://www.cupidity.force9.co.uk/Scanners/LS40/how_the_tests_were_done.htm

(scroll down to the bottom)

So, yes, in the three crops, the middle one is multipass.

Jawed

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 Sent: 11 January 2002 03:28
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 Subject: [filmscanners] Re: LS4000 vs IV ED


 I took a look at the website and the Astia samples.  You need to fix the
 titles under the samples, they are either missing (in the cropped images
 once they appear) or in the case of the full images, the top two are
 listed as Vuescan Single pass, and the bottom one as Nikoscan.  I
 suspect the middle image is a multipass scan??

 Didn't check the other film types.

 Art



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[filmscanners] RE: Clipping

2002-01-10 Thread Jawed Ashraf

Preben if I took your attitude every time printing came up, I'd have been
thrown off this list ages ago.

Jawed

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 Kristensen
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 Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Clipping




 Do you know of a HIFI list? Maybe they are talking about scanning
 there...??

 Should we all change or would it be easier for the HIFI folks here to take
 their specialist chat to an appropiate forum or even private?

 No offence meant, but this is too much!

 Preben

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 Yeah - they use an over-damped 15 bass driver - proximity to the floor
 and
 rear wall are what give it *real* extension down to 5Hz - I done the test
 tone thing, windows and doors rattle but you can't hear any bass.

 Just had an evening of clicks and cuts and electronic noise nonsense - the
 bass on those records can be quite intimidating :)

 Look at it on the bright side; with that kind of low bass, you won't have
 any pests in the house. Or possibly the neighbours houses too.




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