[filmscanners] RE: Re:GRAIN/ICE SHOWDOWN: Nikon LS8000vs.MinoltaScanMulti Pro!

2002-04-14 Thread Alex Zabrovsky

Oh, that hurts.
I run it on ordinary Win98SE, and the friend of mine works with it
in Win2000. However, if your system running WinNT and the software wasn't
designed to work under this OS, that is disappointing.

Regards,
Alex Z

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Alex writes:

 I was wondering why people continue to
 complain heavily about Nikon Scan after
 ver. 3.1.2 became available.

Version 3.x doesn't run on some versions of Windows (e.g., NT).





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[filmscanners] Re: Re:GRAIN/ICE SHOWDOWN: Nikon LS8000vs.MinoltaScanMulti Pro!

2002-04-14 Thread Dave King

It appears to me so far that it also doesn't run in original Win98 (not SE).

Dave

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Oh, that hurts.
I run it on ordinary Win98SE, and the friend of mine works with it
in Win2000. However, if your system running WinNT and the software wasn't
designed to work under this OS, that is disappointing.

Regards,
Alex Z

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Alex writes:

 I was wondering why people continue to
 complain heavily about Nikon Scan after
 ver. 3.1.2 became available.

Version 3.x doesn't run on some versions of Windows (e.g., NT).



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[filmscanners] RE: Re:GRAIN/ICE SHOWDOWN: Nikon LS8000vs.MinoltaScanMulti Pro!

2002-04-13 Thread Alex Zabrovsky

John, I'm second to your opinion. I was wondering why people continue to
complain heavily about Nikon Scan after ver. 3.1.2 became available.
I'm not a programmer, and wouldn't mind how exactly it was written and why
they chosen particular style of programming, but rather enjoyed the software
working stable, delivering predictable results in most cases
(more then 90 % of cases) and UI is intuitive enough to allow ordinary
no BSc in Computer Science holding users to process their work quickly.
(I don't think my electronics engineering education and experience have
something to do helping me out to understand usage of UI of Nikon Scan).

Regards,
Alex Z

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I use Nikon scan all the time and I use Windows. The earlier NS did have an
awful interface, but the current one is very user friendly.
And the end product is excellent scans from pos and neg, in fact far
superior to Vuescan which I have stopped using due to its erratic colour
correction (I mean green skin tones for one)
On top of that NS just keeps on going even on a full day scanning section
John Bradbury
!


Anthony Atkielski writes:

The conflict between the Nikon Scan interface and that of Windows generally
is obvious even to the novice, and indeed, someone who has used only Windows
interfaces is probably the most likely to be disoriented by Nikon's
departure from the norm.  It's time-consuming figure out how to make rollers
and drawers work in this program, when these inteface widgets are not used
by any other Windows software.





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[filmscanners] Re: Re:GRAIN/ICE SHOWDOWN: Nikon LS8000vs.MinoltaScanMulti Pro!

2002-04-13 Thread Shunith Dutt

No problems here... had terrible luck with 3.1 and 3.1.1... version 3.1.2 is
fine... the problem with the earlier versions was my dual cpu... Nikon
couldn't handle it... yes, it was a Nikon Software problem... a solution was
to reboot in single cpu mode... which i refused to do... so used VueScan.
With 3.1.2 the problem has been rectified. And, touch wood, NikonScan...
just hums along... BTW am using W2K Pro.

SD

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Alex writes:

 I was wondering why people continue to
 complain heavily about Nikon Scan after
 ver. 3.1.2 became available.

Version 3.x doesn't run on some versions of Windows (e.g., NT).





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[filmscanners] Re: Re:GRAIN/ICE SHOWDOWN: Nikon LS8000vs.MinoltaScanMulti Pro!

2002-04-12 Thread Anthony Atkielski

Mark writes:

 Vuescan also has a fairly poor interface ...

True, but I believe that's because Ed spends his time getting the product to
do what it is supposed to do, and getting it to do it well.  Therefore, like
you, I'm willing to overlook the less-than-perfect interface.  It does
conform to Windows standards, for the most part, it's just not very
friendly.

The situation with Nikon Scan is different.  It takes a lot of time to
create curvy-smooth 3-D effects that are independent of Windows APIs, and
pretty buttons that gleam when you click them, and so on.  All of this is
time _not_ spent on making the product work.  That is why I find it puerile
and the mark of poor software engineering.  Until you have a product that
works perfectly and well, it's quite irresponsible to waste a lot of time
and resources making it look pretty on the screen, particularly when your
version of prettiness conflicts with established standards for the
environment.  As I've already indicated, this sort of mistake absolutely
reeks of the clueless newbie programmer--it is the schoolgirl style of
software development.


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[filmscanners] Re: Re:GRAIN/ICE SHOWDOWN: Nikon LS8000vs.MinoltaScanMulti Pro!

2002-04-12 Thread dickbo


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3.1.2 doesn't sound like a first revision to me.  In any case, it gets the
job done, which is all I require.

I fear you have just shot yourself in the foot squire.
never mind, you have a spare one on the sother side (:-)




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[filmscanners] Re: Re:GRAIN/ICE SHOWDOWN: Nikon LS8000vs.MinoltaScanMulti Pro!

2002-04-10 Thread Anthony Atkielski

Norm writes:

 The Nikon 3.1 is about as inept a piece of
 software as I have ever used. Non intuitive
 system with windows and controls scattered
 about without any apparent logic.

As far as I can tell, Nikon Scan was designed and written by high-school
students.  Nobody else would be inexperienced and naïve enough to put a
higher priority on cool, unconventional 3-D effects for buttons and dialog
boxes than on ease of use and reliability.

This illustrates what seems to be a rule with computers:  The better the
hardware, the worse the software.  It's as if no company can afford to be
good at both ... which may well be true.  HP makes nice hardware, and so
does Nikon--but their software is a nightmare.  Conversely, Microsoft makes
good software, but their hardware (such as it is) leaves much to be desired.




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