[filmscanners] Re: Epson scanner drivers will not stay installed
Two thoughts: 25 pins on the computer and 50 pins on the device was the standard SCSI configuration for years. 25-to-50 cables are probably more common than 50-to-50 cables. The extra 25 lines are just grounds (individually paired to each data line) and only really need to be connected at one end. If, however, the scanner is really 68 pins, not 50, it may well not work with this old SCSI card even with an adapter. Totally different OS, totally different interface, but... on an OS 9 Mac my Sprintscan 120 installed it's own Firewire drivers that made Firewire access nearly impossible for everything else, and made my USB slightly odd as well. My suggestion would be to use Vuescan (which, unlike Polacolor, does NOT need the goofy Firewire driver) and excise every last bit of Polaroid software. "James L. Sims" wrote: > I am having a problem with my computer dropping a driver. I have a > Polaroid SprintScan 120 film scanner (firewire interface) and an Epson > 1650 scanner (USB interface. In addition, I have a multi-card reader > and a trackball that also have USB interfaces. My problem is that I > have to reinstall the drivers for the Epson scanner almost every time I > use it. My operating system is Windows 2000. > > Has anyone experienced this problem? The Epson scanner also has a SCSI > interface. Maybe using it would help. I haven't done that because the > scanner has a 50-pin connector and my Adaptec SCSI card has a 25-pin > connector - I guess there's such a thing as an adapter. > > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. > > Jim Sims > Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] Re: Epson scanner drivers will not stay installed
Bernie and Laurie, I have updated the ASPI files from the links Bernie provided. After reboot I turned on the Epson scanner and the computer recognized it immediately - no reinstallation of the drivers. I will try it again tomorrow, after I use the SprintScan 120 and the card reader. If it still sees it, it'll be the first time. Thanks, I'll keep you posted. Jim Bernie Kubiak wrote: >Jim, > >To test the USB scanner as SCSI device theory, you may want to install >an ASPI driver and see if that helps, then follow the same startup >sequence those of us using SCSI cards do (in my case a Polaroid 4000). > >Ed Hamrick has a driver posted on his web site: >www.hamrick.com/vuescan/vuescan.htm#windows (same driver for Win2K & XP) >Or look at www.ncf.carleton.ca/~aa571/aspi.htm or >http://aspi.radified.com/ both have notes on "sorting out the ASPI" >driver mess" and links to Adaptec drivers. > >The last two websites mention the Adaptec/Microsoft struggle Laurie >refers to. > >Startup sequence is turn on the scanner, then turn on or reboot the >computer, scanner gets recognized. > >Bernie > > >LAURIE SOLOMON wrote: > > > >>>Yes. That doesn't seem to do any good, Laurie. However, In trying >>>this again to be sure, I decided to turn off the scanner and then >>>turn it back on. On the third try it recognized it. One other thing >>>I should point out. When I first turn on the scanner, this is after >>>the computer has been turned on for the day, the scanner drivers are >>>reinstalled - "Windows has found new hardware" routine. Almost every >>>time there is an indication of an error in the installation at the >>>"Finish" applet. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Yes, this is what happens when you attempt to install some SCSI scanners >>that are connected to a SCSI card. Tou often wind up needing to install up >>to 8 instances of the scanner before the OS will recognize it. The >>installation of each instance presents a "Windows has found New Hardware" >>and there is an indication of an error at the end with the a repeat of the >>"Windows has Found New Hardware" until the magic number of instances has >>been installed. I think I refer to this in my second paragraph. >> >>What I did not mention is that Microsoft at one point with XP was having an >>argument with Adaptec and refused to license their SCSI layer files and >>developed their own. The Microsoft layer software frequently would not work >>well or reliably with some SCSI devices whose manufactures used the Adaptec >>standards. I believe the two companies have now reconciled their >>differences; but I believe that XP installs the Microsoft developed SCSI >>layer by default and not the Adaptec one, which is one of the resons why >>some scanners are not recognized under the "Scanners & Cameras" menu item in >>the Control Panel but appear as a separate menue item such as "Unknown" or >>"Imaging Devices". This sort of thing may be at the base of your problem; >>but I am just speculating. >> >> >> >> >> >>>I'm not sure how to do that. Epson packages all the drivers for a >>>specific machine into one compressed file. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Install the scanner as a SCSI device rather than a USB device, this should >>enable you to install the Epson SCSI drivers. They should remain installed >>in XP until you manually remove them, which you will not be doing. Then >>install the Epson scanner as a USB scanner which should cause Epson to >>install the appropriate Epson drivers in XP, resulting in your having both >>sets of drivers installed. I wouuld not use the Microsoft recommended "Let >>Windows find the driver" option or install the drivers from the Epson CD (if >>you can avoid it); but I would select to manually instal the drivers by >>selecting the non-automatic option that Windows offers which will allow you >>to search the CD for drivers to be installed manually. >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] RE: Epson scanner drivers will not stay installed
> All this might not be necessary if MS learned to play well with > others! MS does play well with others; but only if it can be boss. :-) Unfortunately, this seems to be a common failing of the whole industry. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > installed > > > Laurie, > > This site: www.ncf.carleton.ca/~aa571/aspi.htm has the FTP & URL > addresses for Adaptec. > > The Radified web site < http://aspi.radified.com/> offers this bit of > jargon: "The term 'ASPI' is an acronym that stands for: Advanced SCSI > Programming Interface. All the following terms are synonymous: ASPI > layer, ASPI drivers, ASPI interface." Radified also has links to the > ForceASPI program you refer to and a fairly detailed guide to how all > this stuff is supposed to work. Adaptec has an ASPI checker program, > so you can see what's installed, if anything -- that's available from > Radified as well. > > All this might not be necessary if MS learned to play well with > others! > > Bernie > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.762 / Virus Database: 510 - Release Date: 9/13/2004 Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] Re: Epson scanner drivers will not stay installed
Bernie Kubiak wrote: >All this might not be necessary if MS learned to play well with others! > > >Bernie > And when might that be? :) Jim Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] Re: Epson scanner drivers will not stay installed
Laurie, This site: www.ncf.carleton.ca/~aa571/aspi.htm has the FTP & URL addresses for Adaptec. The Radified web site < http://aspi.radified.com/> offers this bit of jargon: "The term 'ASPI' is an acronym that stands for: Advanced SCSI Programming Interface. All the following terms are synonymous: ASPI layer, ASPI drivers, ASPI interface." Radified also has links to the ForceASPI program you refer to and a fairly detailed guide to how all this stuff is supposed to work. Adaptec has an ASPI checker program, so you can see what's installed, if anything -- that's available from Radified as well. All this might not be necessary if MS learned to play well with others! Bernie LAURIE SOLOMON wrote: >Bernie, > >I was searching for the proper name for the Adaptec layer and could not >remember it; but you came up with it. It is the ASPI layer that I was >referring to. I am not sure if it is called or qualifies as a "driver" but >it is a file that is used with SCSI devices. It can also be obtained on the >Adaptec web site, I believe. If I recollect correctly, there is also a >program for forcing the installation of the ASPI layer on Microsoft systems >which rejected it. > > > Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] RE: Epson scanner drivers will not stay installed
Bernie, I was searching for the proper name for the Adaptec layer and could not remember it; but you came up with it. It is the ASPI layer that I was referring to. I am not sure if it is called or qualifies as a "driver" but it is a file that is used with SCSI devices. It can also be obtained on the Adaptec web site, I believe. If I recollect correctly, there is also a program for forcing the installation of the ASPI layer on Microsoft systems which rejected it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > installed > > > Jim, > > To test the USB scanner as SCSI device theory, you may want to > install an ASPI driver and see if that helps, then follow the same > startup sequence those of us using SCSI cards do (in my case a > Polaroid 4000). > > Ed Hamrick has a driver posted on his web site: > www.hamrick.com/vuescan/vuescan.htm#windows (same driver for Win2K & > XP) Or look at www.ncf.carleton.ca/~aa571/aspi.htm or > http://aspi.radified.com/ both have notes on "sorting out the ASPI" > driver mess" and links to Adaptec drivers. > > The last two websites mention the Adaptec/Microsoft struggle Laurie > refers to. > > Startup sequence is turn on the scanner, then turn on or reboot the > computer, scanner gets recognized. > > Bernie >> --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.762 / Virus Database: 510 - Release Date: 9/13/2004 Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] Re: Epson scanner drivers will not stay installed
Jim, To test the USB scanner as SCSI device theory, you may want to install an ASPI driver and see if that helps, then follow the same startup sequence those of us using SCSI cards do (in my case a Polaroid 4000). Ed Hamrick has a driver posted on his web site: www.hamrick.com/vuescan/vuescan.htm#windows (same driver for Win2K & XP) Or look at www.ncf.carleton.ca/~aa571/aspi.htm or http://aspi.radified.com/ both have notes on "sorting out the ASPI" driver mess" and links to Adaptec drivers. The last two websites mention the Adaptec/Microsoft struggle Laurie refers to. Startup sequence is turn on the scanner, then turn on or reboot the computer, scanner gets recognized. Bernie LAURIE SOLOMON wrote: >>Yes. That doesn't seem to do any good, Laurie. However, In trying >>this again to be sure, I decided to turn off the scanner and then >>turn it back on. On the third try it recognized it. One other thing >>I should point out. When I first turn on the scanner, this is after >>the computer has been turned on for the day, the scanner drivers are >>reinstalled - "Windows has found new hardware" routine. Almost every >>time there is an indication of an error in the installation at the >>"Finish" applet. >> >> > >Yes, this is what happens when you attempt to install some SCSI scanners >that are connected to a SCSI card. Tou often wind up needing to install up >to 8 instances of the scanner before the OS will recognize it. The >installation of each instance presents a "Windows has found New Hardware" >and there is an indication of an error at the end with the a repeat of the >"Windows has Found New Hardware" until the magic number of instances has >been installed. I think I refer to this in my second paragraph. > >What I did not mention is that Microsoft at one point with XP was having an >argument with Adaptec and refused to license their SCSI layer files and >developed their own. The Microsoft layer software frequently would not work >well or reliably with some SCSI devices whose manufactures used the Adaptec >standards. I believe the two companies have now reconciled their >differences; but I believe that XP installs the Microsoft developed SCSI >layer by default and not the Adaptec one, which is one of the resons why >some scanners are not recognized under the "Scanners & Cameras" menu item in >the Control Panel but appear as a separate menue item such as "Unknown" or >"Imaging Devices". This sort of thing may be at the base of your problem; >but I am just speculating. > > > >>I'm not sure how to do that. Epson packages all the drivers for a >>specific machine into one compressed file. >> >> > >Install the scanner as a SCSI device rather than a USB device, this should >enable you to install the Epson SCSI drivers. They should remain installed >in XP until you manually remove them, which you will not be doing. Then >install the Epson scanner as a USB scanner which should cause Epson to >install the appropriate Epson drivers in XP, resulting in your having both >sets of drivers installed. I wouuld not use the Microsoft recommended "Let >Windows find the driver" option or install the drivers from the Epson CD (if >you can avoid it); but I would select to manually instal the drivers by >selecting the non-automatic option that Windows offers which will allow you >to search the CD for drivers to be installed manually. > > > Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] RE: Epson scanner drivers will not stay installed
> Yes. That doesn't seem to do any good, Laurie. However, In trying > this again to be sure, I decided to turn off the scanner and then > turn it back on. On the third try it recognized it. One other thing > I should point out. When I first turn on the scanner, this is after > the computer has been turned on for the day, the scanner drivers are > reinstalled - "Windows has found new hardware" routine. Almost every > time there is an indication of an error in the installation at the > "Finish" applet. Yes, this is what happens when you attempt to install some SCSI scanners that are connected to a SCSI card. Tou often wind up needing to install up to 8 instances of the scanner before the OS will recognize it. The installation of each instance presents a "Windows has found New Hardware" and there is an indication of an error at the end with the a repeat of the "Windows has Found New Hardware" until the magic number of instances has been installed. I think I refer to this in my second paragraph. What I did not mention is that Microsoft at one point with XP was having an argument with Adaptec and refused to license their SCSI layer files and developed their own. The Microsoft layer software frequently would not work well or reliably with some SCSI devices whose manufactures used the Adaptec standards. I believe the two companies have now reconciled their differences; but I believe that XP installs the Microsoft developed SCSI layer by default and not the Adaptec one, which is one of the resons why some scanners are not recognized under the "Scanners & Cameras" menu item in the Control Panel but appear as a separate menue item such as "Unknown" or "Imaging Devices". This sort of thing may be at the base of your problem; but I am just speculating. > I'm not sure how to do that. Epson packages all the drivers for a > specific machine into one compressed file. Install the scanner as a SCSI device rather than a USB device, this should enable you to install the Epson SCSI drivers. They should remain installed in XP until you manually remove them, which you will not be doing. Then install the Epson scanner as a USB scanner which should cause Epson to install the appropriate Epson drivers in XP, resulting in your having both sets of drivers installed. I wouuld not use the Microsoft recommended "Let Windows find the driver" option or install the drivers from the Epson CD (if you can avoid it); but I would select to manually instal the drivers by selecting the non-automatic option that Windows offers which will allow you to search the CD for drivers to be installed manually. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > installed > > > > > LAURIE SOLOMON wrote: > >>> What's strange is that the only device drivers that go away are the >>> Epson scanner drivers. >>> >>> >> >> This makes me think the problem is that the scanner is basically a >> SCSI based scanner which uses a USB port but feeds to a SCSI driver. >> The driver that goes away may be the SCSI driver. The way that SCSI >> devices with SCSI cards work the card is recognized before the OS >> and the scanner is recognized only if it is turned on and connected >> to the card at boot up before the OS loads. If this is not the case >> one has to turn the SCSI device one and go to device manager and >> refresh and rescan for devices after the OS loads. This may be the >> same for USB connected internal SCSI devices as well. Have you tried >> rescanning for new deviced in device manager to fine the scanner >> after it has disappeared? >> >> > Yes. That doesn't seem to do any good, Laurie. However, In trying > this again to be sure, I decided to turn off the scanner and then > turn it back on. On the third try it recognized it. One other thing > I should point out. When I first turn on the scanner, this is after > the computer has been turned on for the day, the scanner drivers are > reinstalled - "Windows has found new hardware" routine. Almost every > time there is an indication of an error in the installation at the > "Finish" applet. This is the only device that want to reinstall > itself upon first use each day. You may be right about it "spoofing > the SCSI drive through the USB port. > >> >> >>> Even stranger is that occasionally I have to install/uninstall the >>> scanner drivers several times before the scanner is recognize >>> >>> >> >> This is common for SCSI scanners which often need to be reinstalled >> up to 8 times in succession without any uninstalling of them before >> they are recognized by the OS. This makes me think the problem is >> that the scanner is basically a SCSI based scanner which uses a USB >> port but feeds to a SCSI driver. There were some older parallel >> port devices that internally were SCSI devices and used SCSI drivers >> but required a parallel port driver as well so that they could be >> ported to the parallel port and then to the SCSI driver. Your >> scanner may be along those lines except it uses a USB port and USB
[filmscanners] Re: Epson scanner drivers will not stay installed
LAURIE SOLOMON wrote: >>What's strange is that the only device drivers that go away are the Epson scanner >>drivers. >> >> > >This makes me think the problem is that the scanner is basically a SCSI based scanner >which uses a USB port but feeds to a SCSI driver. The driver that goes away may be >the SCSI driver. The way that SCSI devices with SCSI cards work the card is >recognized before the OS and the scanner is recognized only if it is turned on and >connected to the card at boot up before the OS loads. If this is not the case one >has to turn the SCSI device one and go to device manager and refresh and rescan for >devices after the OS loads. This may be the same for USB connected internal SCSI >devices as well. Have you tried rescanning for new deviced in device manager to fine >the scanner after it has disappeared? > > Yes. That doesn't seem to do any good, Laurie. However, In trying this again to be sure, I decided to turn off the scanner and then turn it back on. On the third try it recognized it. One other thing I should point out. When I first turn on the scanner, this is after the computer has been turned on for the day, the scanner drivers are reinstalled - "Windows has found new hardware" routine. Almost every time there is an indication of an error in the installation at the "Finish" applet. This is the only device that want to reinstall itself upon first use each day. You may be right about it "spoofing the SCSI drive through the USB port. > > >>Even stranger is that occasionally I have to install/uninstall the scanner drivers >>several times before the scanner is recognize >> >> > >This is common for SCSI scanners which often need to be reinstalled up to 8 times in >succession without any uninstalling of them before they are recognized by the OS. >This makes me think the problem is that the scanner is basically a SCSI based scanner >which uses a USB port but feeds to a SCSI driver. There were some older parallel >port devices that internally were SCSI devices and used SCSI drivers but required a >parallel port driver as well so that they could be ported to the parallel port and >then to the SCSI driver. Your scanner may be along those lines except it uses a USB >port and USB mini-driver instead of the parallel port min-driver employed by the >older devices. It is possible that this is confusing you OS or producing some sort >of conflict. Try installing the SCSI driver for this scaanner along with the USB and >see if that helps. > I'm not sure how to do that. Epson packages all the drivers for a specific machine into one compressed file. > > > >>The shutdown sequence seems to go normally but it will >>not power down >> >> > >Somehow and for some reason your scanner is causing the system to go into hybernation >rather than shut down. Do you turn the scanner's power off before shutting the >system down? If not, the system may still see the scanner as beign in use and is >reverting to hybernation rather than shut down. > I think that's what may be happening. I usually forget to turn off the scanner before I shut down the computer. Come to think of it, this also happens sometimes when I leave a CF card in the reader - and if I delete the images on that card and do not remove it, the computer get upset over a drive not being right. Jim Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] RE: Epson scanner drivers will not stay installed
>What's strange is that the only >device drivers that go away are the Epson scanner drivers. This makes me think the problem is that the scanner is basically a SCSI based scanner which uses a USB port but feeds to a SCSI driver. The driver that goes away may be the SCSI driver. The way that SCSI devices with SCSI cards work the card is recognized before the OS and the scanner is recognized only if it is turned on and connected to the card at boot up before the OS loads. If this is not the case one has to turn the SCSI device one and go to device manager and refresh and rescan for devices after the OS loads. This may be the same for USB connected internal SCSI devices as well. Have you tried rescanning for new deviced in device manager to fine the scanner after it has disappeared? >Even stranger is that occasionally I have to install/uninstall the >scanner drivers several times before the scanner is recognize This is common for SCSI scanners which often need to be reinstalled up to 8 times in succession without any uninstalling of them before they are recognized by the OS. This makes me think the problem is that the scanner is basically a SCSI based scanner which uses a USB port but feeds to a SCSI driver. There were some older parallel port devices that internally were SCSI devices and used SCSI drivers but required a parallel port driver as well so that they could be ported to the parallel port and then to the SCSI driver. Your scanner may be along those lines except it uses a USB port and USB mini-driver instead of the parallel port min-driver employed by the older devices. It is possible that this is confusing you OS or producing some sort of conflict. Try installing the SCSI driver for this scaanner along with the USB and see if that helps. >The shutdown sequence seems to go normally but it will >not power down Somehow and for some reason your scanner is causing the system to go into hybernation rather than shut down. Do you turn the scanner's power off before shutting the system down? If not, the system may still see the scanner as beign in use and is reverting to hybernation rather than shut down. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James L. Sims Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 11:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Epson scanner drivers will not stay installed Laurie, I almost always have only one scanner turned on. I have each USB device in its own port - Epson scanner, Epson printer, trackball, and multi-card reader (that takes up two ports). I have tried switching ports (a suggestion made by Epson). What's strange is that the only device drivers that go away are the Epson scanner drivers. Even stranger is that occasionally I have to install/uninstall the scanner drivers several times before the scanner is recognized. Another anomaly is that the computer will often not power down after I use the Epson Scanner. The shutdown sequence seems to go normally but it will not power down - screen goes dark, hard drives spool down, but the fans and power light stay on. Jim LAURIE SOLOMON wrote: >I have had problems trying to run two scanners off a SCSI card wherein one of the scanners insisted that it be loaded first or else it would not load. Others have said that they have run into a similar thing with a SCI card where one of the scanners insisted on being given a specific ID assignment on the SCSI card or on the card being put into a specifc slot on the motherboard. Maybe a similar thing is taking place where the two scanner drivers are in conflict due to the way they load. If one keeps the Polaroid turned off, doe the Epson continue to lose its driver recognition? It might also be a conflict between the other USB devices and the scanner. I assume that all the USB devices are plugged into their own ports on the motherboard or they are all plugged into a powered hub. > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James L. Sims >Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 7:35 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [filmscanners] Epson scanner drivers will not stay installed > >I am having a problem with my computer dropping a driver. I have a >Polaroid SprintScan 120 film scanner (firewire interface) and an Epson 1650 scanner (USB interface. In addition, I have a multi-card reader and a trackball that also have USB interfaces. My problem is that I have to reinstall the drivers for the Epson scanner almost every time I use it. My operating system is Windows 2000. > >Has anyone experienced this problem? The Epson scanner also has a SCSI interface. Maybe using it would help. I haven't done that because the scanner has a 50-pin connector and my Adaptec SCSI card has a 25-pin connector - I guess there's s
[filmscanners] Re: Epson scanner drivers will not stay installed
Thanks, Bernie. I think I posted this problem on a Microsoft monitored newsgroup a while back but the response didn't seem to fit the issues I'm having. I'll give it another try. Jim Bernie Kubiak wrote: >Jim, >I'd try posting your question on the on the Windows support groups >Microsoft sponsors. The problem with the shutdown sequence suggests >that something needs fixing with the OS and that in turn should help >with the scanner driver situation. FWIW, I've not had problems with >Epson scanner drivers and Win XP (printer drivers were another matter, >although the latest version have not been problematic at all, even after >the dreaded SP2 update). >Bernie > >James L. Sims wrote: > > > >>Laurie, >> >>I almost always have only one scanner turned on. I have each USB device >>in its own port - Epson scanner, Epson printer, trackball, and >>multi-card reader (that takes up two ports). I have tried switching >>ports (a suggestion made by Epson). What's strange is that the only >>device drivers that go away are the Epson scanner drivers. >> >>Even stranger is that occasionally I have to install/uninstall the >>scanner drivers several times before the scanner is recognized. Another >>anomaly is that the computer will often not power down after I use the >>Epson Scanner. The shutdown sequence seems to go normally but it will >>not power down - screen goes dark, hard drives spool down, but the fans >>and power light stay on. >> >>Jim >> >> >> >> > > > > > Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
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Jim, I'd try posting your question on the on the Windows support groups Microsoft sponsors. The problem with the shutdown sequence suggests that something needs fixing with the OS and that in turn should help with the scanner driver situation. FWIW, I've not had problems with Epson scanner drivers and Win XP (printer drivers were another matter, although the latest version have not been problematic at all, even after the dreaded SP2 update). Bernie James L. Sims wrote: >Laurie, > >I almost always have only one scanner turned on. I have each USB device >in its own port - Epson scanner, Epson printer, trackball, and >multi-card reader (that takes up two ports). I have tried switching >ports (a suggestion made by Epson). What's strange is that the only >device drivers that go away are the Epson scanner drivers. > >Even stranger is that occasionally I have to install/uninstall the >scanner drivers several times before the scanner is recognized. Another >anomaly is that the computer will often not power down after I use the >Epson Scanner. The shutdown sequence seems to go normally but it will >not power down - screen goes dark, hard drives spool down, but the fans >and power light stay on. > >Jim > > Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
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John, I have SP4 installed along with all the Critical updates. Also, I've installed a suggested "fix" for failures to mount a drive. Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Which service pack? I've occasionaly had this happen on my XP machine and after a >while I just kept the driver in a known spot on the c-drive so that I could have it >find it when it asked. No need to pull out the CD again and again. > >- John > >James L. Sims wrote: > > >>I am having a problem with my computer dropping a driver. I have a Polaroid >>SprintScan 120 film scanner (firewire interface) and an Epson 1650 scanner (USB >>interface. In addition, I have a multi-card reader and a trackball that also have >>USB interfaces. My problem is that I have to reinstall the drivers for the Epson >>scanner almost every time I use it. My operating system is Windows 2000. >> >>Has anyone experienced this problem? The Epson scanner also has a SCSI interface. >>Maybe using it would help. I haven't done that because the scanner has a 50-pin >>connector and my Adaptec SCSI card has a 25-pin connector - I guess there's such a >>thing as an adapter. >> >>Any advice would be greatly appreciated. >> >>Jim Sims >> >> >> >> >> > >-- >John & Karen Hinkey >Seattle, Washington >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] Re: Epson scanner drivers will not stay installed
Laurie, I almost always have only one scanner turned on. I have each USB device in its own port - Epson scanner, Epson printer, trackball, and multi-card reader (that takes up two ports). I have tried switching ports (a suggestion made by Epson). What's strange is that the only device drivers that go away are the Epson scanner drivers. Even stranger is that occasionally I have to install/uninstall the scanner drivers several times before the scanner is recognized. Another anomaly is that the computer will often not power down after I use the Epson Scanner. The shutdown sequence seems to go normally but it will not power down - screen goes dark, hard drives spool down, but the fans and power light stay on. Jim LAURIE SOLOMON wrote: >I have had problems trying to run two scanners off a SCSI card wherein one of the >scanners insisted that it be loaded first or else it would not load. Others have said >that they have run into a similar thing with a SCI card where one of the scanners >insisted on being given a specific ID assignment on the SCSI card or on the card >being put into a specifc slot on the motherboard. Maybe a similar thing is taking >place where the two scanner drivers are in conflict due to the way they load. If one >keeps the Polaroid turned off, doe the Epson continue to lose its driver recognition? > It might also be a conflict between the other USB devices and the scanner. I assume >that all the USB devices are plugged into their own ports on the motherboard or they >are all plugged into a powered hub. > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James L. Sims >Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 7:35 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [filmscanners] Epson scanner drivers will not stay installed > >I am having a problem with my computer dropping a driver. I have a >Polaroid SprintScan 120 film scanner (firewire interface) and an Epson 1650 scanner >(USB interface. In addition, I have a multi-card reader and a trackball that also >have USB interfaces. My problem is that I have to reinstall the drivers for the >Epson scanner almost every time I use it. My operating system is Windows 2000. > >Has anyone experienced this problem? The Epson scanner also has a SCSI interface. >Maybe using it would help. I haven't done that because the scanner has a 50-pin >connector and my Adaptec SCSI card has a 25-pin connector - I guess there's such a >thing as an adapter. > >Any advice would be greatly appreciated. > >Jim Sims > > > > Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] Re: Epson scanner drivers will not stay installed
Which service pack? I've occasionaly had this happen on my XP machine and after a while I just kept the driver in a known spot on the c-drive so that I could have it find it when it asked. No need to pull out the CD again and again. - John James L. Sims wrote: > I am having a problem with my computer dropping a driver. I have a > Polaroid SprintScan 120 film scanner (firewire interface) and an Epson > 1650 scanner (USB interface. In addition, I have a multi-card reader > and a trackball that also have USB interfaces. My problem is that I > have to reinstall the drivers for the Epson scanner almost every time I > use it. My operating system is Windows 2000. > > Has anyone experienced this problem? The Epson scanner also has a SCSI > interface. Maybe using it would help. I haven't done that because the > scanner has a 50-pin connector and my Adaptec SCSI card has a 25-pin > connector - I guess there's such a thing as an adapter. > > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. > > Jim Sims > > > -- John & Karen Hinkey Seattle, Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] RE: Epson scanner drivers will not stay installed
I have had problems trying to run two scanners off a SCSI card wherein one of the scanners insisted that it be loaded first or else it would not load. Others have said that they have run into a similar thing with a SCI card where one of the scanners insisted on being given a specific ID assignment on the SCSI card or on the card being put into a specifc slot on the motherboard. Maybe a similar thing is taking place where the two scanner drivers are in conflict due to the way they load. If one keeps the Polaroid turned off, doe the Epson continue to lose its driver recognition? It might also be a conflict between the other USB devices and the scanner. I assume that all the USB devices are plugged into their own ports on the motherboard or they are all plugged into a powered hub. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James L. Sims Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 7:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] Epson scanner drivers will not stay installed I am having a problem with my computer dropping a driver. I have a Polaroid SprintScan 120 film scanner (firewire interface) and an Epson 1650 scanner (USB interface. In addition, I have a multi-card reader and a trackball that also have USB interfaces. My problem is that I have to reinstall the drivers for the Epson scanner almost every time I use it. My operating system is Windows 2000. Has anyone experienced this problem? The Epson scanner also has a SCSI interface. Maybe using it would help. I haven't done that because the scanner has a 50-pin connector and my Adaptec SCSI card has a 25-pin connector - I guess there's such a thing as an adapter. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Jim Sims Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.762 / Virus Database: 510 - Release Date: 9/13/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.762 / Virus Database: 510 - Release Date: 9/13/2004 Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
