RE: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
Hello, I am not Dan, but I just got the 3600 and I have had no major problems to speak of. I hope that this may be of assistance... The souding of the scanner I take with a grain of salt. It doesn't sound great, but I got kind of used to the sound when I started out with the Dimage Scan Dual. Sounds kind of the same: like a very quiet jackhammer. No ginding or glass-like sounds and not exactly smooth, but it sounds like it is operating fine. I have had some problems with the acquire module, I think that it has crashed twice. But, for the most part, it has worked fine. I am using usb and not scsi, if this makes a difference. (It comes with a scsi-2 cable, and all I have is a scsi-1 card/cable.) I have had no problems with the scans. The color scans are beautiful. The black and white needs some white and black point adjustments, but the auto balance does a great job overall. The software has some nice features, but I am sure the scans will show even more of an improvement when Ed is able to add this scanner to Vuescan. I will reiterate that I am still happy with my purchase. I will keep you updated if I have any problems. Spencer Stone -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Trozzo Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 3:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner Hi Dan, I am replying off list because I don't think my comparisons of the 3600 and the ss4000 is scientific by any means. I returned the 3600 for two reasons. The first is that it sounded like something was grinding inside the unit whenever it was in use. This may have been the reason I was unable to achieve an acceptable scan from the unit. Does yours make noise when it is in use? Or does it sound smooth? Second, for some reason every third time I acquired the scanner it froze my computer. This made it impossible to work with and impossible to do any real test with it. I have noticed when I compare the scans made by each that the ss4000 is a cleaner less contrasty scan. I am using the Silverfast software with excellent results. I was unable to get a clean scan from the Kodak unit. Most scans had a lot of noise (grainy looking) and though the colors were vivid most scans were to contrasty and the colors were blotchy. All of this may be accountable to mechanical problems with the unit. I am curious to know how you like yours.
Re: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
Hi Dan, I am replying off list because I don't think my comparisons of the 3600 and the ss4000 is scientific by any means. I returned the 3600 for two reasons. The first is that it sounded like something was grinding inside the unit whenever it was in use. This may have been the reason I was unable to achieve an acceptable scan from the unit. Does yours make noise when it is in use? Or does it sound smooth? Second, for some reason every third time I acquired the scanner it froze my computer. This made it impossible to work with and impossible to do any real test with it. I have noticed when I compare the scans made by each that the ss4000 is a cleaner less contrasty scan. I am using the Silverfast software with excellent results. I was unable to get a clean scan from the Kodak unit. Most scans had a lot of noise (grainy looking) and though the colors were vivid most scans were to contrasty and the colors were blotchy. All of this may be accountable to mechanical problems with the unit. I am curious to know how you like yours.
filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner - manual focus
Dan, Could you please tell me is it possible to use manual focus for RFS3600. It is not so clear. Second problem is a driver: is it possible to upload it from nay web page. In Japan I will get probably only Japanese one. Regards Tomasz __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Re(2): filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
Paul, I'm in Canada too and I have recently (last week) talked with peoples at Kodak Canada about the RFS 3600 availability. They expect to start delivering to retailers tomorrow (Nov. 7) Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:26:53 -0800, OK Photo wrote: >Dan, would you mind telling me where you >purchased your 3600? > >Still no sign of it showing up in Canada. > >Paul > > http://okphoto.webjump.com >P:250-498-2800 F:250-498-6876 > > -- Bonne fin de journée! Raymond Carles
Re: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
B&H Photo in New York city Dan OK Photo wrote: > > Dan, would you mind telling me where you > purchased your 3600? > > Still no sign of it showing up in Canada. > > Paul > >http://okphoto.webjump.com > P:250-498-2800 F:250-498-6876 >
Re: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
SCSI... My system consist of a AMD K6II 450 w/384mb of ram, NT4.0 OS, Adaptec 2940uw I could probably use a little more horsepower, but I'm more interested in not baby-sitting the scanner. I just noticed that I'm running out of disk space (for swap files). Maybe if I had more disk space I would get a little better scan times...??? When I used Vuescan with the SS4000 Ed Hamrick had suggestions on how to decrease scan times with his software. Unfortunately Kodak didn't include such tips, and I have not figured out any shortcuts. But I'm still having fun. Now scanning images for NIKON Photo Secretary software is less of a pain. That was my main goal. Hope this helps, Dan Evan Anderson wrote: > > Are you using the RFS 3600 with SCSI or USB connection? > > --Evan Anderson > > >Scan of slide at 3600 dpi: took approx. 125 sec. (two minutes 5 sec..) > > > --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- > Before you buy.
RE: Re(2): filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
Dan, Where did you get it. I need a couple. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 9:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re(2): filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner Hi dan, First, tanks to take time to share your experiments with us! To date, I've been trough all the docs available on the RFS 3600 (even read the entire owner manual...) and could'nt find one line about the scan speed! How is yours doing? I'm particulary concerned about the max resolution scan (50 Mo), with and without auto-correction features. Also, how is the film autofeeder doing with uncut 36 fr. roll? -- Have a good day! Raymond Carles On Sat, 4 Nov 2000 01:59:13 -0600, Dan Kimble wrote: >I'm Sorry David but that is not true. I am taking a break from playing >with the RFS 3600 I received today, to write this response. I am new to >scanning but will try to answer any questions concerning the scanner. So >far I like it. I am trying to find some images that I scanned with the >SS4000 before I returned it to compare. So far I don't have any regrets >returning the SS4000. > >Dan Kimble > > > >"Hemingway, David J" wrote: >> >> It's not shipping >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 11:55 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner >> >> Just came back from N.Y. photoexpo. Saw the new Kodak rfs 3600 scanner. >> Looks >> good but wondering if anyone has done a review on it yet, or has any >> personal >> experience with it . >> Dave Small
Re: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
Dan, would you mind telling me where you purchased your 3600? Still no sign of it showing up in Canada. Paul http://okphoto.webjump.com P:250-498-2800 F:250-498-6876
Re: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
Are you using the RFS 3600 with SCSI or USB connection? --Evan Anderson >Scan of slide at 3600 dpi: took approx. 125 sec. (two minutes 5 sec..) --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Before you buy.
Re(2): filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
Dan,
Sorry for the delay, but I was away for the last days. And thanks a lot
for your infos! Don't worry about "Mo", my mistake (I'm French speaking
and should have wrote "Mb") "Mo is Méga octet, french expression for Megabyte.
On Sat, 4 Nov 2000 16:05:44 -0600, Dan Kimble wrote:
>I am sorry but I am not familiar with the term "50 Mo" in the following
>statement, but if you will explain it to me I will see if I can help you
>with this. ("I'm particularly concerned about the max. resolution
>scan (50 Mo), with and without auto-correction features.")
--
Have a good day!
Raymond Carles
Re: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
"Mo" is "Mega-octets," French for "Megabytes!"
Re: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
Sorry, but I don't have any B&W negatives to test, but I do have a roll of that Kodak B&W film that uses the C-41 process. I will shoot it when I have a chance and try it. One thing I forgot to mention in the previous post is that so far every frame I have scanned needed very little if any adjustments. I've used a little sharpen, brightness, and contrast. But of course this is to my taste. And this applies to Fuji film (which is my film of choice) as well as Kodak types. This really helps a newbie like me. I also should that I have no connection, or special interest with the Kodak or Polaroid companies and that this is just another one of my hobbies. Dan K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Thanks much for the info you have given us on the rfs 3600. It's a big help. > Wondering if you tried to scan black & white negs. and if so how were the > results? > Dave Small
Re: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
Thanks much for the info you have given us on the rfs 3600. It's a big help. Wondering if you tried to scan black & white negs. and if so how were the results? Dave Small
Re: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
Raymond,
I spent the first day of scanning using the scanner without reading the
manual. So before you take these observations as gospel, I think
I should read manual and experiment some more. Please note that my
previous experience with film scanners is limited to the SS4000. But
preliminary observations are as follows.
calibration: approx. 45 seconds (manual mode)
The unit does a calibration at the beginning of the film roll or you can
select to have it do a calibration before each frame ( I don't think I
will use the latter very often).
Pre Scan: approx. 11 sec. (for single frame that is already loaded)
The pre scan of a 4 frame strip was approx. 82 sec..
These pre scan times actually seem pretty quick. (Compared to the SS4000
that is.)
Auto focus (slides only): approx. 15 sec (manual operation)
I haven't found in the manual yet if the the software automatically does
a auto focus before each slide, or if I must manually click on the auto
focus button before each scan. Kodak does advertise that the unit does
not support batch scanning of mounted slides, but what about an uncut
roll of slide film??? I guess I'll soon find out.
Scan of slide at 3600 dpi: took approx. 125 sec. (two minutes 5 sec..)
which sounds like a long time but I think the convenience of the
unattended 36 frame batch scan mode more than makes up for the scan
time.
The film strip feed mechanism is very smooth. It works like a dollar
bill changer, you start the feed then the unit pulls the film in. It
works much better than I expected.
I don't have any uncut 36 frame (or 37 frame) film strips to test yet.
My only concern is that my camera (Nikon F100) always gets 37 frames per
roll so I am wondering how the unit will react.
The only scans that I kept from the SS4000 were made using Vuescan set
to 4000dpi with a reduction factor of 4 which I thought produced
excellent results. Since I can't use Vuescan with the RFS3600 yet I feel
there is no fair comparison. I did make a scan at 3600dpi of the same
image and then within Photoshop used the print size feature to reduce
the dpi by a factor of 4. This gave me an output of 900dpi as compared
to the 1000dpi scan from the SS4000 using Vuescan, and upon magnifying
both images to 300% i did notice that the SS4000 did have a bit better
detail. But isn't this expected?? I am not sure if the process I used to
compare is valid. Another very important point I should make here is
that even though the SS4000 scan was slightly cleaner using my makeshift
test, I actually preferred the image of the RFS3600. The colors looked a
bit more accurate.
I am sorry but I am not familiar with the term "50 Mo" in the following
statement, but if you will explain it to me I will see if I can help you
with this. ("I'm particularly concerned about the max. resolution
scan (50 Mo), with and without auto-correction features.")
I had better get to reading the manual to get better aquatinted with the
abilities and function of the unit.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi dan,
>
> First, tanks to take time to share your experiments with us! To date,
> I've been trough all the docs available on the RFS 3600 (even read the
> entire owner manual...) and could'nt find one line about the scan speed!
> How is yours doing? I'm particulary concerned about the max resolution
> scan (50 Mo), with and without auto-correction features. Also, how is the
> film autofeeder doing with uncut 36 fr. roll?
>
> --
> Have a good day!
>
> Raymond Carles
>
> On Sat, 4 Nov 2000 01:59:13 -0600, Dan Kimble wrote:
>
> >I'm Sorry David but that is not true. I am taking a break from playing
> >with the RFS 3600 I received today, to write this response. I am new to
> >scanning but will try to answer any questions concerning the scanner. So
> >far I like it. I am trying to find some images that I scanned with the
> >SS4000 before I returned it to compare. So far I don't have any regrets
> >returning the SS4000.
> >
> >Dan Kimble
> >
> >
> >
> >"Hemingway, David J" wrote:
> >>
> >> It's not shipping
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 11:55 PM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
> >>
> >> Just came back from N.Y. photoexpo. Saw the new Kodak rfs 3600 scanner.
> >> Looks
> >> good but wondering if anyone has done a review on it yet, or has any
> >> personal
> >> experience with it .
> >> Dave Small
Re(2): filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
Hi dan, First, tanks to take time to share your experiments with us! To date, I've been trough all the docs available on the RFS 3600 (even read the entire owner manual...) and could'nt find one line about the scan speed! How is yours doing? I'm particulary concerned about the max resolution scan (50 Mo), with and without auto-correction features. Also, how is the film autofeeder doing with uncut 36 fr. roll? -- Have a good day! Raymond Carles On Sat, 4 Nov 2000 01:59:13 -0600, Dan Kimble wrote: >I'm Sorry David but that is not true. I am taking a break from playing >with the RFS 3600 I received today, to write this response. I am new to >scanning but will try to answer any questions concerning the scanner. So >far I like it. I am trying to find some images that I scanned with the >SS4000 before I returned it to compare. So far I don't have any regrets >returning the SS4000. > >Dan Kimble > > > >"Hemingway, David J" wrote: >> >> It's not shipping >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 11:55 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner >> >> Just came back from N.Y. photoexpo. Saw the new Kodak rfs 3600 scanner. >> Looks >> good but wondering if anyone has done a review on it yet, or has any >> personal >> experience with it . >> Dave Small
Re: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
I'm Sorry David but that is not true. I am taking a break from playing with the RFS 3600 I received today, to write this response. I am new to scanning but will try to answer any questions concerning the scanner. So far I like it. I am trying to find some images that I scanned with the SS4000 before I returned it to compare. So far I don't have any regrets returning the SS4000. Dan Kimble "Hemingway, David J" wrote: > > It's not shipping > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 11:55 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner > > Just came back from N.Y. photoexpo. Saw the new Kodak rfs 3600 scanner. > Looks > good but wondering if anyone has done a review on it yet, or has any > personal > experience with it . > Dave Small
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> I was this close to order it, then I read the Kodak 3570 (witch I tought > was a "top of the line" product) review at Tony Sleep's site I got into trouble over that review, as it upset quite a few owners who think the 3570 is great. However their scans still displayed the same faults seen in the review samples. I had an even greater number of mails from people who had bought one and thought it a turkey - especially after paying a $700 repair charge to get the excess red/magenta fixed and finding it made no difference. Having said that, I have seen great scans from the 3570, but they have all been, er, black and white. I'm told that Kodak made a number of changes to the model which have improved it some, reducing the flare and giving better colour. The s/w is aimed at newsdesks though, with few controls and compulsory sharpening. However, the new scanner is totally unrelated to the 3570, a completely different design. It is claimed to be sourced from Pacific Image, who are a Microtek owned brand - though their much cheaper budget '1800 filmscanner is not a milestone in scanning excellence by all accounts. Best keep an open mind for now. Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio & exhibit; + film scanner info & comparisons
RE: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
It's not shipping -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 11:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner Just came back from N.Y. photoexpo. Saw the new Kodak rfs 3600 scanner. Looks good but wondering if anyone has done a review on it yet, or has any personal experience with it . Dave Small
Re: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
Please let us all know. Ron - Original Message - From: "OK Photo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 11:02 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner > > >Just came back from N.Y. photoexpo. Saw the new Kodak rfs 3600 scanner. Looks > >good but wondering if anyone has done a review on it yet, or has any personal > >experience with it . > > We have just ordered a 3600. I'm not sure what product > availability is in the US but in Canada they are not available > yet. > Last I've been told is that my supplier expects to have shipment > sometime next week. > > Will let you know what we think of it once it arrives though. > > Paul > >>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<< >http://okphoto.webjump.com > P:250-498-2800 F:250-498-6876 > >>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<< > >
Re(2): filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
Paul,
I was this close to order it, then I read the Kodak 3570 (witch I tought
was a "top of the line" product) review at Tony Sleep's site and his
conclusion ("This seems to be a scanner for people who want that 'pushed
film' look, which probably suits its intended newsprint market just fine.
The limited software adjustments mean you are stuck with what it gives
you. The flare is disgraceful in such an expensive device.") drove me
back a bit, to say the least...
I'm now waiting for a good review or two (and hopefully to be able to
test it myself) before I finally order it. So, Paul, your comments will
be greatly welcome!
--
Have a good day!
Raymond Carles
On Fri, 3 Nov 2000 08:02:09 -0800, OK Photo wrote:
>
>>Just came back from N.Y. photoexpo. Saw the new Kodak rfs 3600 scanner.
Looks
>>good but wondering if anyone has done a review on it yet, or has any
personal
>>experience with it .
>
>We have just ordered a 3600. I'm not sure what product
>availability is in the US but in Canada they are not available
>yet.
>Last I've been told is that my supplier expects to have shipment
>sometime next week.
>
>Will let you know what we think of it once it arrives though.
>
>Paul
>
> http://okphoto.webjump.com
>P:250-498-2800 F:250-498-6876
>
>
Re: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
Please do let me know. I believe they are available in the U.S. Dave
Re: filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
>Just came back from N.Y. photoexpo. Saw the new Kodak rfs 3600 scanner. Looks >good but wondering if anyone has done a review on it yet, or has any personal >experience with it . We have just ordered a 3600. I'm not sure what product availability is in the US but in Canada they are not available yet. Last I've been told is that my supplier expects to have shipment sometime next week. Will let you know what we think of it once it arrives though. Paul http://okphoto.webjump.com P:250-498-2800 F:250-498-6876
filmscanners: kodak rfs 3600 scanner
Just came back from N.Y. photoexpo. Saw the new Kodak rfs 3600 scanner. Looks good but wondering if anyone has done a review on it yet, or has any personal experience with it . Dave Small
