RE: [Finale] Ricoh AP 2610
On Friday, March 05, 2004 6:36 PM, Bob Florence wrote: Hi all: I know this has been discussed before. What Ricoh printer has replaced the AP 2610? Any information would be helpful. If this helps, a friend of mine just bought the AP2610N at a very reasonable price on eBay. It uses the same duplex unit and cartridge as an existing unit (he didn't say which one, but I'm assuming the AP600 that Darcy mentioned), so the supplies it needs are still in production. He ran into the same USB printing from OSX problem, but since he got the N version he just bought an Ethernet router and hooked it up that way. However, he said he had quite a time trying to figure out what the default IP was... -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Ricoh AP 2610
Yeah, the Ricoh manual is singularly unhelpful. Any Ricoh owners on the list bought the 802.11b wireless network card? My router is on the opposite side of the apartment from my printer, so an Ethernet hookup isn't really viable. The card is expensive, but so's the regular network card. And WiFi printing would be so much nicer. I'm worried that the setup would be difficult, though, especially on a Mac. Anyone have any experience with this? I really wish they'd just fix the USB printing problem, but I kinda doubt that's going to happen. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn NY On 06 Mar 2004, at 07:40 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On Friday, March 05, 2004 6:36 PM, Bob Florence wrote: Hi all: I know this has been discussed before. What Ricoh printer has replaced the AP 2610? Any information would be helpful. If this helps, a friend of mine just bought the AP2610N at a very reasonable price on eBay. It uses the same duplex unit and cartridge as an existing unit (he didn't say which one, but I'm assuming the AP600 that Darcy mentioned), so the supplies it needs are still in production. He ran into the same USB printing from OSX problem, but since he got the N version he just bought an Ethernet router and hooked it up that way. However, he said he had quite a time trying to figure out what the default IP was... -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Ricoh AP 2610
Hi Bob, The Ricoh AP600N replaces the AP2610N. (I don't know if you can get the 600 without the N, which stands for network card). In fact, the case for the AP600N looks absolutely identical to the AP2610. They even use the same duplex unit, possibly even the same toner cartridge. The only difference, as far as I can tell, is that the AP600N is a lot more expensive than AP2610, and it has a faster processor under the hood. Also, a word of warning regarding the AP2610 and OS X -- and this is something I didn't realize until recently because the project I was working on was still in Finale 2002 -- the AP2610 does not officially support USB printing under OS X. What this means, in practice, is that the *first* print job in OS X will print just fine. But if you want to send more print jobs, you have to unplug and replug the USB cable. Every time. Needless to say, this was an issue I wish I had been aware of before I bought the printer. USB printing under OS 9 works fine. Apparently, Ethernet printing under OS X works fine too, but I don't have a network card for the AP2610 so I can't test that. I'm stuck unplugging and replugging the USB cable for the time being. Hopefully, they have solved this problem with the AP600N. But I think it's ridiculous that Ricoh doesn't support USB printing under OS X with this model. It's probably just a driver issue, but since the printer has been discontinued, I'm not optimistic that it will ever be fixed. I guess I'll buy the network card when I can afford it. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn NY On 05 Mar 2004, at 09:36 PM, Bob Florence wrote: Hi all: I know this has been discussed before. What Ricoh printer has replaced the AP 2610? Any information would be helpful. Thanks: Bob Florence ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Ricoh AP 2610 information
At 06:31 AM 9/23/2003 -0500, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: I had one concern after the information on the Ricoh AP 2610. Somone had told me that sometimes these inexpensive laser printers use a counter in the toner cartridge, so that when it is advertised that the cartridge is good for some number of copies, when that number of copies has been printed, that's all, folks. The price point of the toner cartridge for the Ricoh caused me to be concerned that this might be true with this unit, and I sent an email to the local sales rep asking about it; I was informed that there are volume sensors in the cartridge, rather than a counter, so that if one was printing documents with less density than the standard, one could presumably get more copies than the 20k advertised. He answered my followup question before I got a chance to ask; the density upon which 20k copies is based is 5 percent toner coverage. If, as I suspect, typical music has a lesser density than the standard text page, thus, the number of copies per toner cartridge is significantly increased: if toner coverage of a sheet of music is 2.5 percent, for example, the cartridge should last for about 40k copies. Just looking at the toner cartridge, I don't see a contact point for an electronic sensor, but maybe I'm missing something. Perhaps there is a way the main unit can detect with the toner cartridge is coming up light. The user manual mentions a message about Toner is getting low, which is consistent with the idea of a remaining toner volume sensor. There may be a stir stick device inside the cartridge, and possibly the printer can measure the physical resistance. As the toner volume drops, there would be less resistance on the mechanism. Speaking of toner, the AP2910 comes with very explicit warnings NOT to shake the cartridge. I've owned 3 laser printers before (2 HPs and an Oki) and they all recommended shaking (at least significant rocking) to get the toner spread evenly inside the cartridge . Well, my first 50 copies printed beautifully, but then one side of the page became very faint. I spoke to the support desk. They said it was OK to tip the cartridge with some force left and right, but to not shake the cartridge vigorously. This corrected my problem. Apparently the toner became really packed during storage and/or shipment. I see where a new cartridge is about $200 on discount. This is high, but not really outrageous. I was spending about $80 for my HP cartridges, and I think the Ricoh has at least twice as much toner. Plus the Ricoh is 13 wide instead of 8.5, so it does cost more to make. The real pisser is that I could get replacement toner for the HP, but nobody makes aftermarket toner for the Ricoh. That's the news from here. CP ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Ricoh AP 2610 information
My Tektronix 740 color laser printer had a similar way of handling toner. One day a looked carefully at the cartrdige and found that I could tape two tiny holes in the cartridge and fake the printer to think that there was enough toner to keep printing (there was some kinf of optical sensor that sensed the toner was about to end). That way I could get a couple hundred more of color pages. Boy, how I want an A3 printer...! All my life! With a duplexer! Listsibs: I had one concern after the information on the Ricoh AP 2610. Somone had told me that sometimes these inexpensive laser printers use a counter in the toner cartridge, so that when it is advertised that the cartridge is good for some number of copies, when that number of copies has been printed, that's all, folks. The price point of the toner cartridge for the Ricoh caused me to be concerned that this might be true with this unit, and I sent an email to the local sales rep asking about it; I was informed that there are volume sensors in the cartridge, rather than a counter, so that if one was printing documents with less density than the standard, one could presumably get more copies than the 20k advertised. He answered my followup question before I got a chance to ask; the density upon which 20k copies is based is 5 percent toner coverage. If, as I suspect, typical music has a lesser density than the standard text page, thus, the number of copies per toner cartridge is significantly increased: if toner coverage of a sheet of music is 2.5 percent, for example, the cartridge should last for about 40k copies. ns ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
