Re: [Finale] Drum Patterns

[laloba2]

Karen
I don't exactly swear by the percussion map; I usually swear AT it.

Hee..hee..:-)
Actually I have your first paragraph taken care of. I have set the 
perc map so that when I hit F# or C# (treble clef entry) I get an X 
head on G and C (for cymbals and rimshots), whereas if I hit G# I 
get a circled X head for crash on the G space. Notice that F#, G, 
and G# all come out on the  G space, but it is only the G that is a 
normal notehead, which I reserve for cues. I also have B as a 
stemless slash, and Bb as a stemmed slash, so that I can combine 
standard, slash, and rhythmic notation in the same measure without 
having to switch tot the Staff Tool, Select Partial Measures, select 
the passage, hit the S or R, then turn off Select Partial Measures, 
which always seemed like a kludge to me.
Christopher, this is really smart!!  I think I will try some of 
thisespecially for drum parts specifically.  Thank you!

As for files from other people, I'm glad you have a method, as that 
kind of thing always stymies me. Transposition doesn't work in 
percussion notation, as I'm sure you noticed,
You hit the nail on the head.  The transposition thing is important 
to me a lot of times.  Especially with some of the slash and rhythmic 
notation.  For that I will change noteheads to slashes and/or hide 
stems depending on what I am trying to do within a regular staff.  I 
can then transpose everything if I paste it into different parts both 
hands of the piano, transposing instruments no matter what clef etc.

so I end up creating a new drum staff, re-entering that drum part, 
then deleting the old staff. Arghh.
Fool around with some of the explosion/implosion features...these 
combined with quickeys (or the macro creator of your choice) can be 
surprisingly fast and easy!

Oh yes, Mac for me. PC for you? Potato; potahto. (and perhaps PAtato 
for drummers (pat a toe, get it?))
Mac for me toodefinitely Potato...:-)
Take care,
-K
Christopher
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Hi Christopher,
Yes, I did know about this.  It's just my personal preference to 
not use a percussion map.  Depending on what I'm working on I may 
later move things to different lines to make them more readable 
etc.  It bothers me to have to then change the notehead too.  I'll 
often add kicks over time, kicks with horns etc. on the top line 
where I may usually have a cymbal (x's).  I can be more flexible 
with which layers things show up in too.  Again, just personal 
preference.

My other problem is that I get files from other people and their 
drum parts come in set up differently.  Rather than try and create 
a perc. map each time.   I can just "blow everything apart"  clean 
it up, apply any notehead move all the notes to one line (this is 
particularly handy with snare parts where rim shots come in on a 
different line and I want all snare notes on the same line...I'll 
then use x noteheads for rim shots and regular note heads 
everywhere else) assign layer and put it back together.  I have 
everything "quickeyed" so that makes it easier too.

But I have friends that swear by the percussion map:-)  Hmmm...mac or pc?
-K

On Oct 22, 2004, at 1:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Implode music is also sometimes handy if you need to merge two 
separate parts back onto one staff in the same layer. I sometimes 
split everything out on to it's own staff using explode parts to 
quickly change noteheads for say the high-hat and cymbal parts to 
"x"'s Then I use implode music to put the high hat, cymbals and 
snare back together in the same layer on the same staff.  Finale 
will sort it out so that everything is clean as far as the stems 
go.

Karen,
Do you know that you can set the Percussion Map so that all 
incidences of the same note will automatically appear as X heads 
(or any other shape you want) AND appear on the line or space you 
want? This is quite a bit quicker than separating, changing, and 
merging, especially when we are talking about an entire drum part.

Christopher
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[Finale] Re: 32nd's

[laloba2]

I think this (Metronome font) will do what you want it to and more...

-K
Hello,
I currently use Finale 2004.  I wouild like to create a tempo 
marking using 32nd notes but I can't seem to find a font to use as 
an expression mark.  Neither Maestro nor Jazz fonts seem to have a 
32nd notehead.  48 hours later I'm still scratching my head.

I'd appreciate the assistance.
Thanks,
BE
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Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance

[laloba2]

Yes, I forgot about these. I actually own a copy of HDSpeedTools for 
MacOS 9. Thing is, I am a little anoyed about their update policy. 
When I bought the product it said "Free Updates for Live" just as it 
does now. Only HDSpeedTools for OS X are not actually the same 
product. So I never actually got any major product updates for free. 
Which sort of defeats the point of the free update policy.
It seems that you are not alone with being annoyed.  Apparently, 
there is a difference between "updates" and "upgrades" from what I've 
read (updates are free, upgrades are not)  Some people are 
understandably upset because they feel mislead.  But I can't imagine 
a company being able to survive without repeat business in the form 
of paid upgrades.

I haven't used it ... one to keep an eye on, looks interesting. I'd 
like  to see a few reviews of this thing before I parted with any 
cash - $90!
you can buy an operating system for that :)
Not many reviews that I can find yet aside form complaints about the 
business modelbut I think some drive manufacturers/distributors 
are shipping the utility with their external drives.  This may be the 
difference between Drive 10 and speed tools.  It looks to me like 
Speedtools may have nice utilities for external drives (specifically 
Oxford drives.)


My initial hunch is that this is a good product but they will have to 
overcome the bitter taste they have left in some of their customer's 
mouths.

I guess time will tell.  Thanks for your feedback!
Best,
K


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Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance

[laloba2]

On a related subject:
If anyone knows how to re-flash an Oxford Firewire enclosure, I'd 
like to know. I seem to have destroyed one by accident (by flashing 
the wrong firmware I guess), and there doesn't seem to be a way to 
get it back. Annoying.

I am open for any experiment, as I have since bought a (non-Oxford) 
replacement, and this casing is now completely useless (not 
recognized).

 Well, since you are up for a gamble...it's the first link on the 
list with the Manual right below.

This is a firmware uploader for the 922 chipset but it works for the 
911 chipset too (my hunch is that the latter is the original firmware 
for your case )


There is further documentation here:
  (look near the 
bottom - Oxsemi Uploader User Guide UG-0004

Let me know how it goes!!  I'm curious!
Best,
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Re: [Finale] OT.......Music Hai Ku

[Eric Dannewitz]

So wait, there is an update coming? Any words on the real fixes and stuff???
Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account wrote:
Anticipation
Finale update released
Damn! More eye candy
 

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Re: [Finale] OT.......Music Hai Ku

[Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account]

Anticipation
Finale update released

Damn! More eye candy







Broken dreams: click, wait...

(Finale Selection tool)

Time to buy G5







Copy and insert,

Partial Measures selected:

Instant Ferneyhough







Teaching Finale:

"Use the time dilation tool."

"The what...?" My heart sinks.





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Re: [Finale] Ties ans slurs

[Carl Dershem]

John Howell wrote:
At 9:58 PM +0200 10/23/04, d. collins wrote:
I have two tied notes followed by a third note: should the slur ending 
on the third note start on the first or the second of the tied notes.

And a related question: if one uses so-called "European" ties that 
look like slurs and a note has both a tie and a slur starting (or 
ending) on it, does one simply move the slur vertically to avoid the 
collision, or does one also move the tie a bit horizontally, and 
perhaps the slur also, so that less vertical movement is required?

Thanks,
Dennis

Personal opinion and nothing more:  while I have seen both publications 
and finale output by amateurs that would slur from the 2nd note I find 
it confusing and never use it myself.  The slur covers all 3 notes, and 
I run it from the 1st note to the 3rd.  The ties are within that slur.  
Others may differ.

John
Agreed.  If you consider the noteheads just as components of the notes, 
you would tie from the beginning of the duration of the sound to the end 
- from the outer boundaries of the ties.  This gives a concept that I 
work from, and the pieces I find easiest to read also work this way

But that's just what works for me.
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Re: [Finale] Ties ans slurs

[John Howell]

At 9:58 PM +0200 10/23/04, d. collins wrote:
I have two tied notes followed by a third note: should the slur 
ending on the third note start on the first or the second of the 
tied notes.

And a related question: if one uses so-called "European" ties that 
look like slurs and a note has both a tie and a slur starting (or 
ending) on it, does one simply move the slur vertically to avoid the 
collision, or does one also move the tie a bit horizontally, and 
perhaps the slur also, so that less vertical movement is required?

Thanks,
Dennis
Personal opinion and nothing more:  while I have seen both 
publications and finale output by amateurs that would slur from the 
2nd note I find it confusing and never use it myself.  The slur 
covers all 3 notes, and I run it from the 1st note to the 3rd.  The 
ties are within that slur.  Others may differ.

John
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Re: [Finale] Ties ans slurs

[Mark D Lew]

On Oct 23, 2004, at 1:55 PM, dhbailey wrote:
The slur should begin with the first of the two tied notes.
The tie should remain close enough to the notehead so as not to leave 
an unsightly gap, and the slur ending would be moved slightly 
vertically so as not to overlap the tie.

In my opinion.
That is my personal preference as well, though I'll sometimes make 
exceptions if the context warrants it.

Johannes is right that there are separate traditions in this and both 
are valid.  It's a style issue, and you have to decide which style 
you're choosing to follow, whether it's your judgment as a scholar in 
terms of matching an appropriate historical style or it's your judgment 
as an engraver in terms of deciding what you consider more readable and 
attractive.

The same problem applies to the end of the slur in a phrase that ends 
on a tied note.

mdl
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Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance

[Simon Troup]

> Hi Karen
> 
> I haven't used it ... one to keep an eye on, looks interesting. I'd like 
> to see a few reviews of this thing before I parted with any cash - $90! 
> you can buy an operating system for that :)
> 
> I needed to partition a disk the other day and spent about Â20 on an 
> application called iPartition by a company named Coriolis Systems 
> Limited. Nope, I'd never heard of them either, but it was a slick 
> program and partitioned two disks (WITH the data still on, make sure you 
> make backups though!) with no problems.
> 
> Maybe with Norton out the way (and their MISERABLE tech support policies 
> - another story) a wider variety of disk utils will come to the fore.
> 
> Simon Troup
> 
> > You have inspired me to do some homework for the day when speed disk 
> > goes away :-)  I found this:
> > 
> > 
> 

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Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance

[Johannes Gebauer]

On a related subject:
If anyone knows how to re-flash an Oxford Firewire enclosure, I'd like 
to know. I seem to have destroyed one by accident (by flashing the wrong 
firmware I guess), and there doesn't seem to be a way to get it back. 
Annoying.

I am open for any experiment, as I have since bought a (non-Oxford) 
replacement, and this casing is now completely useless (not recognized).

Johannes
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Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance

[Johannes Gebauer]

Yes, I forgot about these. I actually own a copy of HDSpeedTools for 
MacOS 9. Thing is, I am a little anoyed about their update policy. When 
I bought the product it said "Free Updates for Live" just as it does 
now. Only HDSpeedTools for OS X are not actually the same product. So I 
never actually got any major product updates for free. Which sort of 
defeats the point of the free update policy.

Not sure what to think of them otherwise. They cost more than Drive10, 
but I am not sure whether they really do any more.

Johannes
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Hi Johannas and Simon,
You have inspired me to do some homework for the day when speed disk 
goes away :-)  I found this:


See what you think...expecially the Disk Defrag utility.  I haven't used 
this nor do I know anyone who has, but it looks interesting.

Best,
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Re: [Finale] Ties ans slurs

[Johannes Gebauer]

dhbailey wrote:
d. collins wrote:
I have two tied notes followed by a third note: should the slur ending 
on the third note start on the first or the second of the tied notes.

The slur should begin with the first of the two tied notes.
I don't think there are any grounds for a generalization here. See my 
other post.

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Re: [Finale] Re: 32nd's

[Carl Dershem]

Raymond Horton wrote:
I haven't opened any good can of worms lately, so this looks like a 
tasty one:

Yes, you should be able to do this - BUT - are you sure you want to?  A 
32nd note, or even a 16th, for the beat value will only lead to 
unnecessary difficulty in readability.
Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist,
Louisville Orchestra  

On 23.10.2004, at 19:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
 
I currently use Finale 2004.  I wouild like to create a tempo marking 
using 32nd notes but I can't seem to find a font to use as an 
expression mark.  Neither Maestro nor Jazz fonts seem to have a 32nd 
notehead.  48 hours later I'm still scratching my head.
 
I'd appreciate the assistance.
 
Thanks,
 
BE
The Corel "musical Symbols" font has a 32d note as character 0114.  If 
you have access to corel draw, it should be there.

cd
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Re: [Finale] Re: 32nd's

[Raymond Horton]

I haven't opened any good can of worms lately, so this looks like a 
tasty one:

Yes, you should be able to do this - BUT - are you sure you want to?  A 
32nd note, or even a 16th, for the beat value will only lead to 
unnecessary difficulty in readability. 

Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist,
Louisville Orchestra   

On 23.10.2004, at 19:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
 
I currently use Finale 2004.  I wouild like to create a tempo marking 
using 32nd notes but I can't seem to find a font to use as an 
expression mark.  Neither Maestro nor Jazz fonts seem to have a 32nd 
notehead.  48 hours later I'm still scratching my head.
 
I'd appreciate the assistance.
 
Thanks,
 
BE
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Re: [Finale] Searching for Copyright Referent

[Mark D Lew]

On Oct 23, 2004, at 1:41 AM, Giovanni Andreani wrote:
As an example, let's say:
I want to arrange a music piece like Hey Jude or a cartoon's main 
theme,
etc. [...]
If you actually succeed in getting permission to arrange Hey Jude, I'd 
be interested in hearing the story.

mdl
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Re: [Finale] Ties ans slurs

[dhbailey]

d. collins wrote:
I have two tied notes followed by a third note: should the slur ending 
on the third note start on the first or the second of the tied notes.

And a related question: if one uses so-called "European" ties that look 
like slurs and a note has both a tie and a slur starting (or ending) on 
it, does one simply move the slur vertically to avoid the collision, or 
does one also move the tie a bit horizontally, and perhaps the slur 
also, so that less vertical movement is required?

The slur should begin with the first of the two tied notes.
The tie should remain close enough to the notehead so as not to leave an 
unsightly gap, and the slur ending would be moved slightly vertically so 
as not to overlap the tie.

In my opinion.
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Re: [Finale] Ties ans slurs

[Johannes Gebauer]

d. collins wrote:
I have two tied notes followed by a third note: should the slur ending 
on the third note start on the first or the second of the tied notes.
That depends. 18th and early 19th century tradition in prints is usually 
to have the slur start on the second note. Later 19th and early 20th 
century tradition is to have the slur start on the first note. Today 
both conventions are used. The more "traditional" way is to start on the 
first note. However, in almost all recent critical editions of 18th 
century music try to be faithful to the earlier tradition (ie start on 
second note). You will see this in editions like the Neue Bach Ausgabe, 
Mozart and Haydn complete edition etc.
And a related question: if one uses so-called "European" ties that look 
like slurs and a note has both a tie and a slur starting (or ending) on 
it, does one simply move the slur vertically to avoid the collision, or 
does one also move the tie a bit horizontally, and perhaps the slur 
also, so that less vertical movement is required?
Difficult to give a general answer. I usually change both. In fact my 
tie and slur settings compromise so that most of the time I wouldn't 
have to change slurs/ties, if the tie end coincides with the slur 
beginning (ie the critical edition approach which I prefer). When a tie 
and slur beginning coincide I usually move the slur up. Since my ties 
start slightly further to the right of the note I don't have to adjust 
the tie.

The best advice is to look at some editions which you like and see what 
they do.

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Re: [Finale] Searching for Copyright Referent

[dhbailey]

Crystal Premo wrote:
Both BMI and ASCAP have searchable online databases where one can find 
copyright information.

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But not all works are registered with BMI or ASCAP. There is also SESAC 
in the U.S., and plenty of smaller works never are registered with 
performing rights organizations.

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Re: [Finale] Re: 32nd's

[Dan Carno]

Greetings!
You will find what you need it Mat Hindson's (free) font called "Rhythms" 
(small z, I believe).

Go to http://hindson.com
Dan Carno
At 01:30 PM 10/23/2004, you wrote:
Hello,
I currently use Finale 2004.  I wouild like to create a tempo marking 
using 32nd notes but I can't seem to find a font to use as an expression 
mark.  Neither Maestro nor Jazz fonts seem to have a 32nd notehead.  48 
hours later I'm still scratching my head.

I'd appreciate the assistance.
Thanks,
BE
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Re: [Finale] Re: 32nd's

[Eric Fiedler]

The "Bach" font has 32nd notes that can be used in a word processing 
document:
http://www.music.qub.ac.uk/~tomita/bach-mf.html
Hope this helps!
Eric

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On 23.10.2004, at 19:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
 
I currently use Finale 2004.  I wouild like to create a tempo marking 
using 32nd notes but I can't seem to find a font to use as an 
expression mark.  Neither Maestro nor Jazz fonts seem to have a 32nd 
notehead.  48 hours later I'm still scratching my head.
 
I'd appreciate the assistance.
 
Thanks,
 
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[Finale] re: OT ...... Music Haiku

[David Froom]

 
> In Finale hides
> Inscrutability, shock.
> Are there other paths?
> 
> No! Sibelius
> Is a plaything for children
> The strong must resist

Or, more succinctly:

Learning Finale
Is worth your time and trouble.
Sibelius sucks!

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Re: [Finale] Re: 32nd's

[Javier Ruiz]

Put a 32nd note in layer 4  (for example) and drag it where you want. Put
the stem up and  hide the ledger lines.

Hope it helps,

Javito.

> Hello,
> 
> I currently use Finale 2004.  I wouild like to create a tempo marking using
> 32nd notes but I can't seem to find a font to use as an expression mark.
> Neither Maestro nor Jazz fonts seem to have a 32nd notehead.  48 hours later
> I'm 
> still scratching my head.
> 
> I'd appreciate the assistance.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> BE
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Re: [Finale] Slurs

[Andrew Stiller]

I have my slurs looking just about to my taste over two notes, 
except in the case of a wide (octave) leap, where the slur seems too 
flat. Is there anything I should or could change in my settings to 
make them less flat, without changing the appearance of other slurs?

Thanks,
Dennis
You can drag the contours of the slur around, but don't do it. The 
trick with slurs on octave (and bigger) leaps is to nudge the whole 
slur outward (i.e., away from the stems) by two or three pixels 
horizontally without changing its curvature.

Works like a charm!
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Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance

[laloba2]

Hi Johannas and Simon,
You have inspired me to do some homework for the day when speed disk 
goes away :-)  I found this:


See what you think...expecially the Disk Defrag utility.  I haven't 
used this nor do I know anyone who has, but it looks interesting.

Best,
Karen

Ah. I guess I will after all be looking at techtool, or Drive10 
(which seems to be basically TechTool, but without the Hardware 
tests, which I am not sure I will need anyway).

Thanks for telling me this in time. I guess this is another reason 
why people keep several of these utilities. As I said, so far 
Apple's Disk Utility has cured all my problems in OS X, but one 
never knows (I had numerous problems in the old OS 9 days, and 
Norton did save my life a few times then). It seems to me that OS X 
is a lot safer (probably mostly because it doesn't let you install 
things all that easily, and keeps Administrators and Users apart), 
but then, things do go wrong.

Thanks for all the input!
Johannes
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[Finale] Re: 32nd's

[Eisenbeil]

Hello,
 
I currently use Finale 2004.  I wouild like to create a tempo marking using 32nd notes but I can't seem to find a font to use as an _expression_ mark.  Neither Maestro nor Jazz fonts seem to have a 32nd notehead.  48 hours later I'm still scratching my head.
 
I'd appreciate the assistance.
 
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Re: [Finale] Searching for Copyright Referent

[Giovanni Andreani]

>Both BMI and ASCAP have searchable online databases where one can find 
>copyright information.
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Thank you, I found wht I was looking for at BMI

Giovanni Andreani

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RE: [Finale] Searching for Copyright Referent

[Crystal Premo]

Both BMI and ASCAP have searchable online databases where one can find 
copyright information.

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Re: [Finale] Searching for Copyright Referent

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Giovanni Andreani wrote:
One question about copyright regarding music which is not of public
domain: how do you find the copyright's holder? 

In the U.S., the Copyright office of the Library of Congress is supposed 
to maintain the registry which provides the current identity of the 
coypright owner, though they may not always be up to date.  Recently 
published material--collections, and songbooks--is usually pretty 
accurate as to who the owner of the copyright was at the time the 
article was published. Older material becomes less accurate as 
copyrights change hands, and as copyright holders names change.

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Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance

[Eden - Lawrence D.]

My first choice for defragging a drive is Norton Speed Disk.  I own
DiskWarrior and TechTool Pro, but for defragging...you can't beat Speed
Disk.




On Fri, 22 Oct 2004, Johannes Gebauer wrote:

> Thing is, I don't actually have a problem. The reason I need a disk
> utility is that I want a tool to defragment, especially my Audio drive.
> This seems to be a good time to get a utility which will also help me
> should I get a problem in the future.
>
> It seems that most people recommend DiskWarrior. If I don't hear
> anything negative about it I will probably buy it.
>
> Johannes
>
> Simon Troup wrote:
> >>I am in fo a new Disk Maintenance software. As far as I can see there
> >>are basically two choices:
> >
> >
> > There's also Drive 10
> >
> > http://www.micromat.com/drive_10/drive_10_introduction.html
> >
> > It's best to own as many Disk Utils as you can afford. In my experience there is 
> > no "best" utility. I've encountered problems that would make Norton Utils crash, 
> > but DiskWarrior would fix, and problems that neither Norton nor DiskWarrior could 
> > address, but Drive 10 fixed with ease. It's a lottery.
> >
> > I bought them both, and Drive 10 too. That may sound like an extravagance, but I 
> > collected them one at a time - as each prior purchase failed to repair the next 
> > problem!
> >
> > Simon Troup
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Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance

[Johannes Gebauer]

Ah. I guess I will after all be looking at techtool, or Drive10 (which 
seems to be basically TechTool, but without the Hardware tests, which I 
am not sure I will need anyway).

Thanks for telling me this in time. I guess this is another reason why 
people keep several of these utilities. As I said, so far Apple's Disk 
Utility has cured all my problems in OS X, but one never knows (I had 
numerous problems in the old OS 9 days, and Norton did save my life a 
few times then). It seems to me that OS X is a lot safer (probably 
mostly because it doesn't let you install things all that easily, and 
keeps Administrators and Users apart), but then, things do go wrong.

Thanks for all the input!
Johannes
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[Finale] Searching for Copyright Referent

[Giovanni Andreani]

Hello

One question about copyright regarding music which is not of public
domain: how do you find the copyright's holder? As an example, let's say:
I want to arrange a music piece like Hey Jude or a cartoon's main theme,
etc. and I know the author's name(s); where do I find the information
needed for contacting the main referent who can release permissions and
extend rights on these protected works?

Thank you in advance

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Re: [Finale] Drum Patterns

[Christopher Smith]

Karen
I don't exactly swear by the percussion map; I usually swear AT it.
Actually I have your first paragraph taken care of. I have set the perc 
map so that when I hit F# or C# (treble clef entry) I get an X head on 
G and C (for cymbals and rimshots), whereas if I hit G# I get a circled 
X head for crash on the G space. Notice that F#, G, and G# all come out 
on the  G space, but it is only the G that is a normal notehead, which 
I reserve for cues. I also have B as a stemless slash, and Bb as a 
stemmed slash, so that I can combine standard, slash, and rhythmic 
notation in the same measure without having to switch tot the Staff 
Tool, Select Partial Measures, select the passage, hit the S or R, then 
turn off Select Partial Measures, which always seemed like a kludge to 
me.

As for files from other people, I'm glad you have a method, as that 
kind of thing always stymies me. Transposition doesn't work in 
percussion notation, as I'm sure you noticed, so I end up creating a 
new drum staff, re-entering that drum part, then deleting the old 
staff. Arghh.

Oh yes, Mac for me. PC for you? Potato; potahto. (and perhaps PAtato 
for drummers (pat a toe, get it?))

Christopher
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Hi Christopher,
Yes, I did know about this.  It's just my personal preference to not 
use a percussion map.  Depending on what I'm working on I may later 
move things to different lines to make them more readable etc.  It 
bothers me to have to then change the notehead too.  I'll often add 
kicks over time, kicks with horns etc. on the top line where I may 
usually have a cymbal (x's).  I can be more flexible with which layers 
things show up in too.  Again, just personal preference.

My other problem is that I get files from other people and their drum 
parts come in set up differently.  Rather than try and create a perc. 
map each time.   I can just "blow everything apart"  clean it up, 
apply any notehead move all the notes to one line (this is 
particularly handy with snare parts where rim shots come in on a 
different line and I want all snare notes on the same line...I'll then 
use x noteheads for rim shots and regular note heads everywhere else) 
assign layer and put it back together.  I have everything "quickeyed" 
so that makes it easier too.

But I have friends that swear by the percussion map:-)  Hmmm...mac 
or pc?

-K

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Implode music is also sometimes handy if you need to merge two 
separate parts back onto one staff in the same layer. I sometimes 
split everything out on to it's own staff using explode parts to 
quickly change noteheads for say the high-hat and cymbal parts to 
"x"'s Then I use implode music to put the high hat, cymbals and 
snare back together in the same layer on the same staff.  Finale 
will sort it out so that everything is clean as far as the stems go.

Karen,
Do you know that you can set the Percussion Map so that all 
incidences of the same note will automatically appear as X heads (or 
any other shape you want) AND appear on the line or space you want? 
This is quite a bit quicker than separating, changing, and merging, 
especially when we are talking about an entire drum part.

Christopher
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