Re: [Finale] TAN: QuickKeys or iKeys?

[finale]

I have had experience with both. Quickeys was great on OS 9. I dropped 
it completely since I moved to OS X and have been getting by with Ikey.

Now that QK 3 is out, and Ikeys 2 is out I have spent some (read: too 
much) time fiddling with both.

Quickeys now does what they say it will do, and does it consistently.
Ikey 1.x was like that too, it promised less than QK, but the interface 
was good, and it behaved predictably. The new version is only $30 or 
$10 if you already own Ikey 1. But beware; Ikey 2 seems to be trying to 
be infinitely flexible in terms of how its interface in organized, it 
is more complex, and more steps are necessary to create a shortcut from 
scratch, The interface is now cluttered and at times obtuse. Also I 
have noticed certain issues with shortcuts not running as they should.

Support is via a bulletin board, with no email or phone support, and 
answers from the developer are not quick, Though other users will chime 
in helpfully.

Ikey 1 is perfect. it does almost everything I wanted, the one thing it 
would not do was press the stop key (I hate mousing, and that's why I 
have kept trying QK when each new version came out).

Quickeys will click on pretty much anything, and supports variables, 
which Ikey does not. The interface is quite intuitive, and conceptually 
similar to the old Quickeys. Very easy to get started.

If you work for a church, school or similar organization QK costs $60. 
Just now I made a call to CE software support. They don't have a hold 
queue, instead I left my name and phone number in a voicemail and got a 
call back promptly from a very well informed tech who actually had a 
copy of finale on his mac, and knew his way around the menus.

For me, I will forgive CE software for abandoning OS X users, just as I 
forgave Coda for taking eons to support OS X (I can't say their new 
name out loud, it's just too silly).

My $.03
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[Finale] Was TAN: Alto Flute Soundfont; now GPO

[Raymond Horton]

I should have said "With the legitimate concerns about GPO on Macs 
starting to spill over into not-so legitimate concern about GPO on PCs ..."

RBH
Darcy James Argue wrote:
Ray,
No one here has been "bashing" the quality of the samples in GPO.  
Actually, no one here has been "bashing" anything -- but there has 
been some legitimate criticism about GPO/Kontakt performance on Macs.

I'm glad your setup is working well for you.  If GPO + Fin2005 worked 
flawlessly on four-year old Macs, then you'd probably hear fewer 
complaints.

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Re: [Finale] Old Finale files

[Johannes Gebauer]

Well, I was thinking of pre-2.x versions, since version 1.2 was mentioned.
Johannes
Robert Patterson wrote:
On the contrary, I believe Fin04 added considerable *improvements* the upgrade 
routine for pre v3 files.
But I highly recommend upgrading the older files to 2.6.3 first. I think I can 
still to run 2.6.3 under Classic.

-Original Message-
From: Johannes Gebauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 09:04 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Old Finale files
Actually, I seem to remember that Finale dropped backwards compatibility 
for early versions some time ago, no?

Johannes
Andrew Stiller wrote:
Well, I am finally am getting around to updating all my old music
files.  Most seem to be fine but I have a few that won't read at all.
I dug up all my old Finale program disks -- all the way back to Finale
1.2!  Remember the Holiday Disk?  I even have that.  Unfortunately they
are unreadable in System 9.  Anybody have any suggestions on what I
could do?
Gerald Berg
Simply open them from within a later version of Finale, and save that 
version. You're going to have to do this anyway, someday, so you might 
as well get it over with.

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Re: [Finale] Old Finale files

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Johannes Gebauer / 05.1.27 / 04:04 PM wrote:

>Actually, I seem to remember that Finale dropped backwards compatibility 
>for early versions some time ago, no?


I think it happened at version 3 (or 3.2).


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Re: [Finale] TAN: Alto Flute Soundfont

[Darcy James Argue]

Ray,
No one here has been "bashing" the quality of the samples in GPO.  
Actually, no one here has been "bashing" anything -- but there has been 
some legitimate criticism about GPO/Kontakt performance on Macs.

I'm glad your setup is working well for you.  If GPO + Fin2005 worked 
flawlessly on four-year old Macs, then you'd probably hear fewer 
complaints.

- Darcy
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On 27 Jan 2005, at 4:14 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
This is probably not helpful to you, Taris, but I'm posting this 
because some have been bashing GPO, lately.

GPO includes four alto flute samples (one solo, 3 ensemble-poly) - the 
solo one is quite nice, haven't tried the others yet.

I've been using GPO with FinWin 2005a for several months (on a 
four-year-old computer) and absolutely love it.  It's a great step 
forward.

Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger,
Bass Trombonist,
Louisville Orchestra
(I love your name, BTW!  I do hope it is your real one!)
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Taris L Flashpaw wrote:
Does anyone out there have a decent soundfont of an alto flute? I've 
been looking for one for a while now and can't really turn up 
anything useful.

Taris
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Re: [Finale] Old Finale files

[Robert Patterson]

On the contrary, I believe Fin04 added considerable *improvements* the upgrade 
routine for pre v3 files.

But I highly recommend upgrading the older files to 2.6.3 first. I think I can 
still to run 2.6.3 under Classic.

> -Original Message-
> From: Johannes Gebauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 09:04 PM
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Old Finale files
> 
> Actually, I seem to remember that Finale dropped backwards compatibility 
> for early versions some time ago, no?
> 
> Johannes
> 
> Andrew Stiller wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well, I am finally am getting around to updating all my old music
> >>> files.  Most seem to be fine but I have a few that won't read at all.
> >>> I dug up all my old Finale program disks -- all the way back to Finale
> >>> 1.2!  Remember the Holiday Disk?  I even have that.  Unfortunately they
> >>> are unreadable in System 9.  Anybody have any suggestions on what I
> >>> could do?
> >>>
> >>> Gerald Berg
> >>>
> > 
> > Simply open them from within a later version of Finale, and save that 
> > version. You're going to have to do this anyway, someday, so you might 
> > as well get it over with.
> > 
> > Andrew Stiller
> > Kallisti Music Press
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Re: [Finale] TAN: Alto Flute Soundfont

[Raymond Horton]

This is probably not helpful to you, Taris, but I'm posting this because 
some have been bashing GPO, lately.

GPO includes four alto flute samples (one solo, 3 ensemble-poly) - the 
solo one is quite nice, haven't tried the others yet.

I've been using GPO with FinWin 2005a for several months (on a 
four-year-old computer) and absolutely love it.  It's a great step forward.

Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger,
Bass Trombonist,
Louisville Orchestra
(I love your name, BTW!  I do hope it is your real one!)
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Does anyone out there have a decent soundfont of an alto flute? I've 
been looking for one for a while now and can't really turn up anything 
useful.

Taris
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Re: [Finale] TAN: QuickKeys or iKeys?

[Andrew Stiller]

On Jan 27, 2005, at 10:48 AM, Simon Troup wrote:
OK sorry if this is stupid but what's TAN: mean?
I'm embarrassed already.
It means the topic is TANgential to Finale but not completely Off Topic.
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Re: [Finale] Old Finale files

[Johannes Gebauer]

Actually, I seem to remember that Finale dropped backwards compatibility 
for early versions some time ago, no?

Johannes
Andrew Stiller wrote:

Well, I am finally am getting around to updating all my old music
files.  Most seem to be fine but I have a few that won't read at all.
I dug up all my old Finale program disks -- all the way back to Finale
1.2!  Remember the Holiday Disk?  I even have that.  Unfortunately they
are unreadable in System 9.  Anybody have any suggestions on what I
could do?
Gerald Berg
Simply open them from within a later version of Finale, and save that 
version. You're going to have to do this anyway, someday, so you might 
as well get it over with.

Andrew Stiller
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Re: [Finale] Old Finale files

[Raymond Horton]

Somebody please tell us non-Mac, recent converts what the Holiday Disk 
was! 

RBH
Andrew Stiller wrote:

Well, I am finally am getting around to updating all my old music
files.  Most seem to be fine but I have a few that won't read at all.
I dug up all my old Finale program disks -- all the way back to Finale
1.2!  Remember the Holiday Disk?  I even have that.  Unfortunately they
are unreadable in System 9.  Anybody have any suggestions on what I
could do?
Gerald Berg
Simply open them from within a later version of Finale, and save that 
version. You're going to have to do this anyway, someday, so you might 
as well get it over with.

Andrew Stiller
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Re: [Finale] TAN: More info on GPO Advanced Edition

[Raymond Horton]

Darcy James Argue wrote:
http://northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30231
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Re: [Finale] Old Finale files

[Andrew Stiller]

Well, I am finally am getting around to updating all my old music
files.  Most seem to be fine but I have a few that won't read at all.
I dug up all my old Finale program disks -- all the way back to Finale
1.2!  Remember the Holiday Disk?  I even have that.  Unfortunately 
they
are unreadable in System 9.  Anybody have any suggestions on what I
could do?

Gerald Berg
Simply open them from within a later version of Finale, and save that 
version. You're going to have to do this anyway, someday, so you might 
as well get it over with.

Andrew Stiller
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[Finale] TAN: Alto Flute Soundfont

[Taris L Flashpaw]

Does anyone out there have a decent soundfont of an alto flute? I've been 
looking for one for a while now and can't really turn up anything useful.

Taris
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[Finale] TAN: More info on GPO Advanced Edition

[Darcy James Argue]

http://northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30231
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[Finale] TAN: More info on Garritan Jazz and Big Band Library

[Darcy James Argue]

http://northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30030
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Re: [Finale] TAN: QuickKeys or iKeys?

[Robert Patterson]

A quick visit to the two websites is making this a much easier choice. 
QuickKeys X3 is not supported on Jaguar whereas iKeys is. (And iKeys is half 
the cost.)

I've been a huge supporter of QuickKeys over the years, but their failure to 
provide a migration path for macros from OS9 to OSX has cost me nearly all my 
loyalty to them. Lack of support for my OSX version is the final straw. iKeys 
is what I'm gonna try first.



When QK X first came out, I inquired about migrating macros from 9 to X. I got 
back the spiel about how OS9 and OSX are completely different OS's, yadda, 
yadda, yadda. When I pointed out that all my macros were for a program with 
identical menus and dialogs between 9 and X, the tech. had the nerve to suggest 
that I print out my macros to make the process easier.

Hello!

If they can print them out, why can't they export them to a migration file and 
import them into the version automatically. Sheesh!






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Re: [Finale] The ARCHIVE Password

[Brad Beyenhof]

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:21:16 +0100, d. collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark D Lew écrit:
>
> >For what it's worth, I guess my preference would be that the Finale List
> >archives remain google-able, but it's only a slight preference.
> >It's not something that I care about enough to lobby for.
> 
> Why Google, since it's possible to have searchable archives without making
> them public?

It doesn't necessarily have to be Google-indexed, just searchable in
some form or fashion. If the list server at SHSU would implement
mailman2 (as Hiro described), there would be no issue here.

By the way, I applaud Henry for setting password protection on the
archives. Don't get me wrong; I'm glad my personal information and
list communication are now private. However, for the archive to be
truly functional it will need to be searchable. Up until now, that
function was performed by Google; now, something else must be devised.

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Re: [Finale] TAN: QuickKeys or iKeys?

[Darcy James Argue]

Hiro, the interface isn't just "inconsistent from iKey 1.x", it is an 
absolute mess.  *Everything* is a sequence -- it's no longer possible 
to create a simple one-step shortcut without jumping through all kinds 
of hoops.  You can no longer type in keyboard shortcuts (if they 
already exist in another application) -- instead, you have to select it 
from a massive pop-up menu of *all* of the keyboard shortcuts you have 
already programmed.  The organization of shortcuts is just ridiculously 
confusing and non-intuitive -- as I said, it's the WORST user interface 
I have ever seen in ANY application EVER.

I'm sure there are all kinds of "power-user" features added to iKey 
2.x, but their interface is so arcane and frustrating I have no desire 
to find out what they are.  Macro software is supposed to make me 
*more* productive, not require me to spend days trying to figure out 
how the hell it's supposed to work.

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On 27 Jan 2005, at 11:17 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:
Darcy James Argue / 05.1.27 / 10:15 AM wrote:
Of course, don't even consider downloading iKey 2.0.  It's horrible
beyond words.

As I mentioned before, I have been pretty happy with iKey2.0, and I am
really curious what it is that bad about.  Granted, the GUI is far
inconsistent from iKey1.x, but Finale did that so many times, too!
I am just curious.  Maybe I am missing something, that some power-user
would do much more with iKey1.x?
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Re: [Finale] TAN: QuickKeys or iKeys?

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Darcy James Argue / 05.1.27 / 10:15 AM wrote:

>Of course, don't even consider downloading iKey 2.0.  It's horrible 
>beyond words.


As I mentioned before, I have been pretty happy with iKey2.0, and I am
really curious what it is that bad about.  Granted, the GUI is far
inconsistent from iKey1.x, but Finale did that so many times, too!

I am just curious.  Maybe I am missing something, that some power-user
would do much more with iKey1.x?


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Re: [Finale] TAN: QuickKeys or iKeys?

[Simon Troup]

One thing to note about quickeys, we're on MAC OSX 10.3 and already on Quickeys 
X3, each version is a significant overhaul, these aren't minor increments, the 
application is being very actively developed.

I can't comment on iKeys but I've been using Quickeys since OS9 and on OSX 
since X1. I agree with comments made earlier about Quickeys X1, it was a shock 
to all preious users to have to go back a few generations. Version X2 was much 
better, but was still getting problems getting things to work.

X3 seems much more aware of the various windows and pallettes in OSX, I think 
part of the difficulty has been that the Window Management in OSX is far, far 
more advanced in OSX than in OS9. OSX has so many drawers, tear off pallettes 
and other slidey gizmos that Quickeys has to check and look for.

I have managed to get everything to work reliably in X3 but only after spending 
some time and effort on each step, making sure that there won't be any tiny 
changes such as changes in window names etc when I run it on different 
documents.

Just to give you an idea of what I mean, one application I use is called 
OmniOutliner. When I export from that application, a slide down sheet drops 
down with the save dialog on. Looks cool! HOWEVER ... that means the window 
that the actions operate on is named the same as the document, so unless you 
edit that step and set it up with a more wildcard entry under the window name, 
the macro will only work ON THAT DOCUMENT! Dohhh! 

This is confusing at first, and ultimately quite boring to edit every step, but 
ultimately your macros work (in my experience).

It's frustrating, but hardly Quickeys fault, I'm sure that other applications, 
however well thought out, still have to account for these possibilies too.

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Re: [Finale] TAN: QuickKeys or iKeys?

[Simon Troup]

OK sorry if this is stupid but what's TAN: mean?

I'm embarrassed already.

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Re: [Finale] Synful Orchestra

[Allen Fisher]

I heard it at NAMM, and the sounds are nice. Windows only, though...


On 1/26/05 3:42 PM, "Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account"
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> With all the problems that some people are having with Garritan Personal
> Orchestra, the software-synth on this site is perhaps an alternative:
> 
> http://www.synful.com/
> 
> Check out the demo sound files - they're pretty amazing, especially the
> Beethoven String Quartet and the Rite of Spring excerpt.
> 
> It's PC only at this stage - perhaps a PC-using Finalist could check it
> out and see how it works with Human Playback?
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Re: [Finale] TAN: QuickKeys or iKeys?

[JohnBlane]

In a message dated 1/27/05 9:10:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



I'm still in QuicKeys X version 2, but I don't have a big need to
upgrade to v.3 because I can do everything I want with the current
version.



I have to agree. The initial horror of QKX v.1 (their first attempt to port to OSX - sort of like Fin2004) made everyone look harder for an alternative - and IKey was a great one at the time. Since then QKeys has grown up nicely while IKeys, it seems, has become weaker with the newest version. Randolph is right, of course, that you must start from scratch building the macros but your going to be starting from scratch with either choiice. I think you should look again at QKeys.
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Re: [Finale] TAN: QuickKeys or iKeys?

[Darcy James Argue]

On 27 Jan 2005, at 10:09 AM, Randolph Peters wrote:
I don't know iKeys2, but I preferred QKX over iKeys1 because of the 
way the cursor is returned almost instantly to the previous location 
after a programmed mouse click.
iKey 1.x can do that -- or at least, the most recent version can do 
that.

Apparently that can be accomplished in iKeys2, but some on this list 
have complained about others drawbacks of iKeys2.
It's useless.  Don't buy it.  Worst. Interface. Ever.
 I also like the way QK can make itself an invisible app that doesn't 
show up on the list of applications when you are switching 
(command-tab).
iKey 1.x does that too.
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Re: [Finale] TAN: QuickKeys or iKeys?

[Darcy James Argue]

Hi Robert,
QuicKeys has a 30-day demo, and you can use iKey unregistered for (I 
think) as long as you want, so long as you are willing to put up with a 
nag screen.  I think both can do what you want (sequences within 
sequences), so why not futz around with both and see which one best 
meets your needs?

Of course, don't even consider downloading iKey 2.0.  It's horrible 
beyond words.  AFAIK, you can still download (and purchase) 1.x, and 
that's the only version worth considering.  Obviously, using an older 
version of the app is cause for concern, since it means you're stuck if 
iKey 1.x ever stops working (because of an OS update, or whatever).

On the other hand, iKey is considerably less expensive.  I really, 
really liked iKey 1.x, and II just wish they hadn't screwed up the 
interface so very badly in iKey 2.0.  (Maybe iKey 3.0 will fix it... )

Cheers,
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On 27 Jan 2005, at 9:23 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:
I'm preparing to convert from OS9 to OSX, and I will need to get an 
OSX macro program. Comments on this list from several months back 
suggested that iKeys might be better. But recently, it sounds like 
QuickKeys may be regaining the upper hand. Any current comments would 
be appreciated.

In particular, I have defined sequence macros that navigate particular 
dialog boxes. I then call these sequences from within other sequences. 
When I looked at OSX QuickKeys a couple of years ago, some of this 
functionality had not been ported. Can anyone comment on the parity of 
features between QK X or iKeys and QK9?

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Re: [Finale] TAN: QuickKeys or iKeys?

[Randolph Peters]

At 8:23 AM -0600 1/27/05, Robert Patterson wrote:
I'm preparing to convert from OS9 to OSX, and I will need to get an 
OSX macro program. Comments on this list from several months back 
suggested that iKeys might be better. But recently, it sounds like 
QuickKeys may be regaining the upper hand. Any current comments 
would be appreciated.

In particular, I have defined sequence macros that navigate 
particular dialog boxes. I then call these sequences from within 
other sequences. When I looked at OSX QuickKeys a couple of years 
ago, some of this functionality had not been ported. Can anyone 
comment on the parity of features between QK X or iKeys and QK9?
I'm still in QuicKeys X version 2, but I don't have a big need to 
upgrade to v.3 because I can do everything I want with the current 
version.

You CAN insert sequences into others sequences and you can even 
address AppleScript.

The biggest problem I had in moving over from QK9 is that you can't 
import the macros. You have to start from scratch. The logic and 
layout is different and perhaps less intuitive and that can also get 
in the way if you have worked a lot with QK9.

I don't know iKeys2, but I preferred QKX over iKeys1 because of the 
way the cursor is returned almost instantly to the previous location 
after a programmed mouse click. Apparently that can be accomplished 
in iKeys2, but some on this list have complained about others 
drawbacks of iKeys2. I also like the way QK can make itself an 
invisible app that doesn't show up on the list of applications when 
you are switching (command-tab).

I think QK offers a 30 day free trial if you are up for it.
-Randolph Peters
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[Finale] TAN: QuickKeys or iKeys?

[Robert Patterson]

I'm preparing to convert from OS9 to OSX, and I will need to get an OSX 
macro program. Comments on this list from several months back suggested 
that iKeys might be better. But recently, it sounds like QuickKeys may 
be regaining the upper hand. Any current comments would be appreciated.

In particular, I have defined sequence macros that navigate particular 
dialog boxes. I then call these sequences from within other sequences. 
When I looked at OSX QuickKeys a couple of years ago, some of this 
functionality had not been ported. Can anyone comment on the parity of 
features between QK X or iKeys and QK9?

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Re: [Finale] FinWin 2k3 - problem in 2nd ending creation

[Johannes Gebauer]

Well, my instructions would have worked, had you not had a tie there 
already. The way I described is actually the standard way to create such 
a tie end in a second time bar afaik.

Johannes
themark wrote:
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From: "Johannes Gebauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Finale] FinWin 2k3 - problem in 2nd ending creation


Here is how you can solve this:
On the Mac, in Speedy, Option-Click the second ending bar. A dialog pops
up. In this dialog, in the lower part of the window, check Tie End.
Done.
Johannes
PS: As far as I know this only works in second endings.
Thank you Johannes, that option is already checked. I found instead that
going into 1st ending last bar, ctrl+clicking and
selecting the last element, if I uncheck "Tie beginning" (I don't know if it
is the right translation, I use the Italian version)
the tie that was auto-created when doing backwards tie action disappears!
A damn tricky solution but found at end!
Thank to everyone for leading me out of a headache :))
marcello
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Re: [Finale] FinWin 2k3 - problem in 2nd ending creation

[themark]

- Original Message - 
From: "Johannes Gebauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Finale] FinWin 2k3 - problem in 2nd ending creation


> Here is how you can solve this:
> On the Mac, in Speedy, Option-Click the second ending bar. A dialog pops
> up. In this dialog, in the lower part of the window, check Tie End.
>
> Done.
>
> Johannes
>
> PS: As far as I know this only works in second endings.
>
Thank you Johannes, that option is already checked. I found instead that
going into 1st ending last bar, ctrl+clicking and
selecting the last element, if I uncheck "Tie beginning" (I don't know if it
is the right translation, I use the Italian version)
the tie that was auto-created when doing backwards tie action disappears!

A damn tricky solution but found at end!

Thank to everyone for leading me out of a headache :))

marcello

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Re: [Finale] FinWin 2k3 - problem in 2nd ending creation

[Johannes Gebauer]

Here is how you can solve this:
On the Mac, in Speedy, Option-Click the second ending bar. A dialog pops 
up. In this dialog, in the lower part of the window, check Tie End.

Done.
Johannes
PS: As far as I know this only works in second endings.
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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:29 PM
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On Jan 26, 2005, at 8:07 AM, themark wrote:

I have a problem creating 2nd endings on bars that have the first note
tied to the last note of the bar before the first ending. Using
"ctrl"+"+" on the keyboard I should be able to create a tie that goes
"backward" but the most of times this does not work and I have to
create a tie manually.
What is the exact order of actions in making this 2nd ending?
I mean:
1) I put notes in the bar that will start 2md ending then create the
second ending then do the ctrl+ action
2) I create the 2nd ending then put notes in the bar then ctrl+
or other?
Both of these actions don't work.
Thanks for hints.
Marcello
I enter the notes, create the ending, then go back using the Speedy
Tool to put in the backwards tie, and everything works, but I am in
FinMac 2005. My keystroke is opt (Mac equivelant of alt) =, not +, to
make the tie go backwards. Try alt-T, which should be the same.
Christopher

I tried to create endings as you say.
It works in facts but there is an evident bug: if in the last bar of 1st
ending there is a note on the last movement which is at the same pitch of
the note starting the second ending the backwards tie affects also that
note! This not happens if a rest is in the last movement.
If you can, check this thing out.
Thank you
Marcello
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Re: [Finale] FinWin 2k3 - problem in 2nd ending creation

[mnoia]

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From: "Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ; "themark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] FinWin 2k3 - problem in 2nd ending creation


>
> On Jan 26, 2005, at 8:07 AM, themark wrote:
>
> > I have a problem creating 2nd endings on bars that have the first note
> > tied to the last note of the bar before the first ending. Using
> > "ctrl"+"+" on the keyboard I should be able to create a tie that goes
> > "backward" but the most of times this does not work and I have to
> > create a tie manually.
> > What is the exact order of actions in making this 2nd ending?
> > I mean:
> > 1) I put notes in the bar that will start 2md ending then create the
> > second ending then do the ctrl+ action
> > 2) I create the 2nd ending then put notes in the bar then ctrl+
> >
> > or other?
> > Both of these actions don't work.
> > Thanks for hints.
> >
> > Marcello
> >
>
> I enter the notes, create the ending, then go back using the Speedy
> Tool to put in the backwards tie, and everything works, but I am in
> FinMac 2005. My keystroke is opt (Mac equivelant of alt) =, not +, to
> make the tie go backwards. Try alt-T, which should be the same.
>
> Christopher
>

I tried to create endings as you say.
It works in facts but there is an evident bug: if in the last bar of 1st
ending there is a note on the last movement which is at the same pitch of
the note starting the second ending the backwards tie affects also that
note! This not happens if a rest is in the last movement.
If you can, check this thing out.
Thank you
Marcello

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