Re: [Finale] Staff size headaches

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Greg Scheer wrote:

I'm having a problem for which I just can't find a solution. I normally
reduce my scores to 85%. But in many of my scores in recent months, my last
page or last few systems will inexplicably be 100%. I've tried resizing that
page, updating the layout, and checking the staff size. There is no
difference between the settings of the systems/pages that are right or wrong
(that is, they all *say* they're 85%), but it's clear to the eye that
there's a difference.

It's driving me crazy! Anyone have any ideas?
You're over-running your formatting, and when you get past the last 
measure you have formatted, it reverts to the defaults shown in Options 
> Page format > Score.


When you begin work on  a file, if you go to Options > Page format > 
Score, and make the changes, these become the new values for the 
document, and you won't see this. 


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Re: [Finale] Staff size headaches

[JohnBlane]

In a message dated 2/2/07 9:03:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> I'm having a problem for which I just can't find a solution. I normally
> reduce my scores to 85%. But in many of my scores in recent months, my last
> page or last few systems will inexplicably be 100%. I've tried resizing that
> page, updating the layout, and checking the staff size. There is no
> difference between the settings of the systems/pages that are right or wrong
> (that is, they all *say* they're 85%), but it's clear to the eye that
> there's a difference.
> 
> 

Your Staff Height is set to 86 evpus throughout and 92 on the last system.
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[Finale] Staff size headaches

[Greg Scheer]

I'm having a problem for which I just can't find a solution. I normally
reduce my scores to 85%. But in many of my scores in recent months, my last
page or last few systems will inexplicably be 100%. I've tried resizing that
page, updating the layout, and checking the staff size. There is no
difference between the settings of the systems/pages that are right or wrong
(that is, they all *say* they're 85%), but it's clear to the eye that
there's a difference.

It's driving me crazy! Anyone have any ideas? I'm running Finale 2006c on a
Mac OS 10.3.9. If you want to take a look at the file in question, go to:
www.gregscheer.com/pickup/feed_us_lord-choir.mus

Thanks in advance for your help,

Greg

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Re: [Finale] JPEG problem

[David W. Fenton]

On 2 Feb 2007 at 16:09, Andrew Stiller wrote:

> On Feb 2, 2007, at 3:00 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
> 
> > On 2/2/07, Andrew Stiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> however, the distribution of colors looks really bad--as if he had
> >> some horrible skin disease. All the other pics at my website are
> >> JPEGs, and they all look fine.
> >>
> >> What's going on here, and what can I do about it?
> >
> > Sounds like you have compressed the image too much. What software
> > application do you use to edit your photographs?
> 
> No,  the problem begins  to appear at any reduction, and becomes more
> severe the more the pic is reduced. I use Claris Home Page to edit the
> dimensions.

That sounds like you're changing the display size without resizing 
the source graphic. That is, you have, say, a 400x600 graphic and 
you're setting it's height and width settings in the image link to 
something less than that. The browser will resize on the fly to the 
size you give, but no browser that I know of has as good an on-the-
fly resizing algorithm as even the cheapest graphics program, which 
resamples the image to resize it.

If this is what you're doing, you're reducing display quality while 
getting no benefit from having your users download a smaller file. 
You need to resize the source graphic in a graphics program, and one 
that is able to resample well.

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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

[David W. Fenton]

On 2 Feb 2007 at 13:15, Aaron Sherber wrote:

> At 12:41 PM 2/2/2007, Phil Daley wrote:
>  >At 2/2/2007 10:56 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
>  >
>  > >At 08:59 AM 2/2/2007, Phil Daley wrote:
>  > > >In Vista, you are not allowed access to files in some
>  directories.  You > > >cannot even see them in explorer.  And it has
>  nothing to do 
> with them being
>  > > >hidden, it has to do with them being system.
>  > >
>  > >Just curious, can you give an example? Have you tried enabling
>  'Show > >hidden files and folders' and disabling 'Hide protected
>  operating > >system files' through Explorer? > >Right, but no one is
>  allowed access to Documents and Settings/ some of the >sub
>  directories there.
> 
> Okay, I've just played around with this, because my interest was
> piqued. I've got Vista installed under Virtual PC, so I haven't done
> much with it yet. In Vista, Documents and Settings is now a shortcut
> to c:\Users, and in fact the shortcut does have Everyone set to Deny
> for list contents, making things unaccessible through that route.

What are the other rights? Full read/right/delete? That would mean 
that you just can't *look* at it, not that you can't use the files.

> However, as Administrator I could remove that Deny and get into the
> folder. I could also just go to c:\Users with no trouble at all.

Seems to me that this is the method one should use, i.e., adapt to 
the new OS, which is what the design of Vista is urging on you by 
denying list rights.

> At any rate, I am reasonably certain that as Administrator you would
> somehow be able to access every single file on the computer. That's
> sort of the sine qua non of Administrator, after all.

One can use DENY permissions to freeze out even an administrator, 
except the admin can still change permissions. I keep my RUN key in 
the registry set to DENY WRITE for all, because I don't want 
applications promiscuously installing programs there. If I ever 
*want* to install something there, I turn off the DENY logged on 
under a username that has admin rights, install the app, the set it 
back to DENY. I also have my HOSTS files set to deny WRITE operations 
to all since I don't want process poisoning my local lookup tables. 
When I need to edit my HOSTS file, I turn off the DENY, edit the 
file, then turn it back on.

My understanding was that Vista had returned to the historical model 
for editing permissions, instead of the bogus and horrid non-UI that 
was offered with WinXP's "Simple File Sharing" (which should be 
turned *OFF* on every WinXP where that's possible; and that's why you 
should never, ever use WinXP Home, because SFS can't be turned off -- 
it's your only option).

>  > >In any event, I would agree with David. If an application has
>  decided > >to store its settings file in a way that makes Vista think
>  it should > >be hidden, that's the fault of the application, not the
>  OS. > >But, since this was not a problem in XP, whose fault is it???
> 
> Have you ever read Raymond Chen's blog, 
> ? He talks a lot about how MS
> tends to bend over backwards to ensure compatibility with old
> applications, even those which do things like rely on behavior which
> MS has explicitly said might not always work that way. They do this
> because when users upgrade to a new Windows and suddenly one of their
> apps stops working, the users naturally assume that it's the fault of
> Windows. They don't imagine that it's because the app was doing
> something which MS had said "Don't do this; we know you can do it in
> XP, but we can't guarantee that it will work in future versions of
> Windows."

The documents and settings shortcut (is it a symbolic link, which is 
called a junction in NTFS?) is clearly set up to allow backward 
compatibility for applications while closing out end users and 
forcing them to use the new C:\Users, instead. This is good, seems to 
me.

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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

[David W. Fenton]

On 2 Feb 2007 at 12:41, Phil Daley wrote:

> At 2/2/2007 10:56 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
> 
>  >At 08:59 AM 2/2/2007, Phil Daley wrote:
>  > >In Vista, you are not allowed access to files in some directories.
>   You > >cannot even see them in explorer.  And it has nothing to do
>  with them being > >hidden, it has to do with them being system. >
>  >Just curious, can you give an example? Have you tried enabling 'Show
>  >hidden files and folders' and disabling 'Hide protected operating
>  >system files' through Explorer?
> 
> Right, but no one is allowed access to Documents and Settings/ some of
> the sub directories there.

*Someone* has to be allowed access. The OS cannot simply prevent 
viewing of files in certain folders to *all* users. The 
administrative users *must* have access (though UAC may prompt them 
for a password to get in).

Are you sure you're looking in the profile of the username you've 
logged on with? You usually can't view other user profiles unless 
you're logged on as an admin with universal rights to view/edit 
everything on the machine.

>  >In any event, I would agree with David. If an application has
>  decided >to store its settings file in a way that makes Vista think
>  it should >be hidden, that's the fault of the application, not the
>  OS.
> 
> But, since this was not a problem in XP, whose fault is it???

It's the fault of the software maker for not updating the application 
to work in Vista. Or, your fault, if you've chosen to install on 
Vista an app that hasn't been upgraded for Vista-compatibility.

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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

[David W. Fenton]

On 2 Feb 2007 at 8:59, Phil Daley wrote:

> At 2/2/2007 08:40 AM, David W. Fenton wrote:
> 
>  >On 2 Feb 2007 at 8:22, Phil Daley wrote:
>  >
>  >> At 2/2/2007 08:00 AM, David W. Fenton wrote:
>  >>
>  >>  >Of course, why one simply can't edit the permissions on these
>  files >>  >manually to get around the problem, I can't say. I'd
>  assume that >>  Phil >is knowledgable enough to have tried that. >>
>  >> Yes, even logging in as "administrator" did not fix the problem. >
>  >But that doesn't change permissions if the administrator group is
>  not >authorized to change those files. Did you log on as
>  administrator and >see what the permissions were? Did you attempt to
>  take ownership of >the files? These are the basic methods for dealing
>  with permissions >that have been set too strict, and I assume you did
>  these, no?
> 
> In Vista, you are not allowed access to files in some directories. 
> You cannot even see them in explorer.  And it has nothing to do with
> them being hidden, it has to do with them being system.

Can't you change the setting to hide/reveal system files, as you can 
in all earlier versions of Windows (since the Win95 shell was 
introduced)? That's something I always do on any machine I'm 
responsible for, since I know what I'm doing with them.

If not, why are system files stored in documents and settings? Or, 
put another why, why should Vista think that files stored there are 
system files?

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Re: [Finale] Coloured notes

[JohnBlane]

In a message dated 2/2/07 2:31:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> I am producing some crutches for one of my musically disabled  students.  
> Is
> there any way I can make individual notes different  colours?
> 
> I have looked under "colours" in the manual and found nothing.
> 
> 

Lawrence -

We used to export as graphics and open in Illustrator (or similar) to 
manually color the noteheads.
Tedious but possible.
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Re: [Finale] JPEG problem

[Carlberg Jones]

At 2:04 PM -0600 2/2/07, Don Hart wrote:

A program called Graphic Converter came with my G5 a couple of years ago.
It's been great for similar things I've been doing lately.


Graphic Converter is a great program and has been for quite some 
time. Even though I use Photoshop, GC does some things easily and 
quickly. I know I could be doing the same things in Photoshop, but 
I'd have to configure it twice; GC is set to do them (file sizing and 
stripping the resource fork.)


GC is shareware, and I was happy to pay the shareware fee for this program.

It's Mac only, as far as I know.
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Re: [Finale] Coloured notes

[YATESLAWRENCE]

Thanks David,
 
I've resorted to merely enlarging the notes which need to be  emphasised.
 
A shame, colour would have been more interesting for her.
 
Cheers,
 
Lawrence
 
lawrenceyates.co.uk
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Re: [Finale] JPEG problem

[Andrew Stiller]

On Feb 2, 2007, at 3:00 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:


On 2/2/07, Andrew Stiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

however, the distribution of colors looks really bad--as if he had 
some

horrible skin disease. All the other pics at my website are JPEGs, and
they all look fine.

What's going on here, and what can I do about it?


Sounds like you have compressed the image too much. What software
application do you use to edit your photographs?


No,  the problem begins  to appear at any reduction, and becomes more 
severe the more the pic is reduced. I use Claris Home Page to edit the 
dimensions.


And Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:


Are you sure the original was a JPEG? If
it was a large GIF (or the last image you resized was 256 colors or 
less,
and the setting is 'stuck'), the reduction will use a different 
resizing
algorithm, making it splotchy. If you convert it to JPEG first or 
reset the

resizing choices, that probably won't happen.


Definitely a JPEG. There is no facility w.in Claris Home Page to change 
the resizing algorithm. All I can reset is the size itself.


Another question though: When I look at the original  image in Preview, 
it is both the right size and the right colors. Why must it be so big 
in Claris Home Page (its default size is almost full screen)? I can 
always ask Andrii to send me a different version of his photo, but I 
have to know what to ask for!


Andrew Stiller
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Re: [Finale] Coloured notes

[dhbailey]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am producing some crutches for one of my musically disabled  students.  Is 
there any way I can make individual notes different  colours?
 
I have looked under "colours" in the manual and found nothing.
 


Unfortunately not in Finale.  Sibelius does have this capability, however.

From Finale I'm afraid you're going to have to save the music as a 
graphic and then work with it in a graphic editing program, painting 
each note.


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[Finale] Coloured notes

[YATESLAWRENCE]

I am producing some crutches for one of my musically disabled  students.  Is 
there any way I can make individual notes different  colours?
 
I have looked under "colours" in the manual and found nothing.
 
Cheers,
 
Lawrence
 
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Re: [Finale] JPEG problem

[Don Hart]

A program called Graphic Converter came with my G5 a couple of years ago.
It's been great for similar things I've been doing lately.

http://www.lemkesoft.com/

Don Hart


> I told a composer I've just taken on to send me a JPEG of himself to
> include on my web site. He did, but it was too big. Upon reducing it
> however, the distribution of colors looks really bad--as if he had some
> horrible skin disease. All the other pics at my website are JPEGs, and
> they all look fine.
> 
> What's going on here, and what can I do about it?
> 
> Andrew Stiller
> Kallisti Music Press
> http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/
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Re: [Finale] JPEG problem

[Dennis Bathory-Kitsz]

At 02:43 PM 2/2/2007 -0500, Andrew Stiller wrote:
>I told a composer I've just taken on to send me a JPEG of himself to 
>include on my web site. He did, but it was too big. Upon reducing it 
>however, the distribution of colors looks really bad--as if he had some 
>horrible skin disease. All the other pics at my website are JPEGs, and 
>they all look fine.
>What's going on here, and what can I do about it?

The only idea that comes to mind: Are you sure the original was a JPEG? If
it was a large GIF (or the last image you resized was 256 colors or less,
and the setting is 'stuck'), the reduction will use a different resizing
algorithm, making it splotchy. If you convert it to JPEG first or reset the
resizing choices, that probably won't happen.

Just a thought ... it may be something entirely unrelated, like he was
wearing a houndstooth shirt. :)

Dennis



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Re: [Finale] JPEG problem

[Kim Patrick Clow]

On 2/2/07, Andrew Stiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


however, the distribution of colors looks really bad--as if he had some
horrible skin disease. All the other pics at my website are JPEGs, and
they all look fine.

What's going on here, and what can I do about it?


Sounds like you have compressed the image too much. What software
application do you use to edit your photographs?

Kim Patrick Clow
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[Finale] JPEG problem

[Andrew Stiller]

I told a composer I've just taken on to send me a JPEG of himself to 
include on my web site. He did, but it was too big. Upon reducing it 
however, the distribution of colors looks really bad--as if he had some 
horrible skin disease. All the other pics at my website are JPEGs, and 
they all look fine.


What's going on here, and what can I do about it?

Andrew Stiller
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Re: [Finale] OT Language [was: Vista (?)]

[cisraels]

I am quite sure that I "hear" every word I read.  (Probably faster than I could 
speak them.)  I wish my music reading were that good.  Then I would not need 
Finale playback!

Chuck


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From: Andrew Stiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > * ISTR  that being able to read without actually saying the
> > words was regarded as a major intellectual achievement
> > in the Middle Ages.
> >
> > -- 
> > Ken Moore
> 
> Yes it was. One of the saints (I forget which) was actually accused of 
> witchcraft because he was observed to be reading a text faster than it 
> could be spoken.
> 
> Julius Caesar at one point was feared to have suffered a stroke because 
> he was reading something without speaking *out loud,* but was only 
> moving his lips.
> 
> BTW, fluent modern readers read faster than speech all the time, so I 
> don't think they turn the printed words into sound in any literal way. 
> At most they may be referencing a "library" of spoken words, in wh. it 
> is only necessary to touch base with the spoken sound without actually 
> rehearsing it fully in the mind.
> 
> 
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Re: [Finale] OT Language [was: Vista (?)]

[Andrew Stiller]

* ISTR  that being able to read without actually saying the
words was regarded as a major intellectual achievement
in the Middle Ages.

--
Ken Moore


Yes it was. One of the saints (I forget which) was actually accused of 
witchcraft because he was observed to be reading a text faster than it 
could be spoken.


Julius Caesar at one point was feared to have suffered a stroke because 
he was reading something without speaking *out loud,* but was only 
moving his lips.


BTW, fluent modern readers read faster than speech all the time, so I 
don't think they turn the printed words into sound in any literal way. 
At most they may be referencing a "library" of spoken words, in wh. it 
is only necessary to touch base with the spoken sound without actually 
rehearsing it fully in the mind.



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[Finale] DP quickscribe into Finale

[John Hinchey]

Hi all,

I've had a chance to work with a new piece of software that is really  
helpful.  It's called PDFtoMusic.
It reads PDFs and then generates a music XML file that you can open  
in Finale.  I've used it on a lot
of Digital Performer Quickscribe scores and it works great.  More  
accurate that .MID files, pretty much
what you see is what you get.  You can also use it on PDFs of Mosaic  
files, Logic etc.  As long as the
 PDF was generated from a notation software. As I understand it  
reads fonts embedded in the PDF.

It doesn't work with scanned PDFs.

It also reads and plays back PDF's including singing the lyrics!  A  
bit like Stephen Hawking but pretty cool and

useful for quick demos.

So, if this something you need to do, check it out.

http://www.myriad-online.com/en/products/pdftomusicpro.htm

Best regards,
John Hinchey

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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

[Aaron Sherber]

At 12:41 PM 2/2/2007, Phil Daley wrote:
>At 2/2/2007 10:56 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
>
> >At 08:59 AM 2/2/2007, Phil Daley wrote:
> > >In Vista, you are not allowed access to files in some directories.  You
> > >cannot even see them in explorer.  And it has nothing to do 
with them being

> > >hidden, it has to do with them being system.
> >
> >Just curious, can you give an example? Have you tried enabling 'Show
> >hidden files and folders' and disabling 'Hide protected operating
> >system files' through Explorer?
>
>Right, but no one is allowed access to Documents and Settings/ some of the
>sub directories there.

Okay, I've just played around with this, because my interest was 
piqued. I've got Vista installed under Virtual PC, so I haven't done 
much with it yet. In Vista, Documents and Settings is now a shortcut 
to c:\Users, and in fact the shortcut does have Everyone set to Deny 
for list contents, making things unaccessible through that route. 
However, as Administrator I could remove that Deny and get into the 
folder. I could also just go to c:\Users with no trouble at all.


At any rate, I am reasonably certain that as Administrator you would 
somehow be able to access every single file on the computer. That's 
sort of the sine qua non of Administrator, after all.


> >In any event, I would agree with David. If an application has decided
> >to store its settings file in a way that makes Vista think it should
> >be hidden, that's the fault of the application, not the OS.
>
>But, since this was not a problem in XP, whose fault is it???

Have you ever read Raymond Chen's blog, 
? He talks a lot about how MS 
tends to bend over backwards to ensure compatibility with old 
applications, even those which do things like rely on behavior which 
MS has explicitly said might not always work that way. They do this 
because when users upgrade to a new Windows and suddenly one of their 
apps stops working, the users naturally assume that it's the fault of 
Windows. They don't imagine that it's because the app was doing 
something which MS had said "Don't do this; we know you can do it in 
XP, but we can't guarantee that it will work in future versions of Windows."


Now, I don't really know what files you're having problems reaching, 
or where they are, or why they're there. But it's entirely possible 
that an app had been storing settings in a way which was not 
recommended by MS, and now they're getting bitten by it.


It's a little like saying, "Gee, I could always drive 80 mph on this 
road under the old police commissioner; the new one must have changed 
the law." When in fact all the new one did was actually post a patrol 
car on the road to enforce the existing speed limit.


See also 
, 
which talks about some related issues.


Aaron.

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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

[Phil Daley]

At 2/2/2007 10:56 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote:

>At 08:59 AM 2/2/2007, Phil Daley wrote:
> >In Vista, you are not allowed access to files in some directories.  You
> >cannot even see them in explorer.  And it has nothing to do with them being
> >hidden, it has to do with them being system.
>
>Just curious, can you give an example? Have you tried enabling 'Show
>hidden files and folders' and disabling 'Hide protected operating
>system files' through Explorer?

Right, but no one is allowed access to Documents and Settings/ some of the 
sub directories there.


>In any event, I would agree with David. If an application has decided
>to store its settings file in a way that makes Vista think it should
>be hidden, that's the fault of the application, not the OS.

But, since this was not a problem in XP, whose fault is it???

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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

[Aaron Sherber]

At 08:59 AM 2/2/2007, Phil Daley wrote:
>In Vista, you are not allowed access to files in some directories.  You
>cannot even see them in explorer.  And it has nothing to do with them being
>hidden, it has to do with them being system.

Just curious, can you give an example? Have you tried enabling 'Show 
hidden files and folders' and disabling 'Hide protected operating 
system files' through Explorer?


In any event, I would agree with David. If an application has decided 
to store its settings file in a way that makes Vista think it should 
be hidden, that's the fault of the application, not the OS.


Aaron.

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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

[Phil Daley]

At 2/2/2007 08:40 AM, David W. Fenton wrote:

>On 2 Feb 2007 at 8:22, Phil Daley wrote:
>
>> At 2/2/2007 08:00 AM, David W. Fenton wrote:
>>
>>  >Of course, why one simply can't edit the permissions on these files
>>  >manually to get around the problem, I can't say. I'd assume that
>>  Phil >is knowledgable enough to have tried that.
>>
>> Yes, even logging in as "administrator" did not fix the problem.
>
>But that doesn't change permissions if the administrator group is not
>authorized to change those files. Did you log on as administrator and
>see what the permissions were? Did you attempt to take ownership of
>the files? These are the basic methods for dealing with permissions
>that have been set too strict, and I assume you did these, no?

In Vista, you are not allowed access to files in some directories.  You 
cannot even see them in explorer.  And it has nothing to do with them being 
hidden, it has to do with them being system.


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Re: [Finale] Clear Items on Mac

[Stig Christensen]

Well I found it just after I send the message. It's the key just  
above 7 on my numeric keypad.

Thanks anyway!!

Den 02/02/2007 kl. 14.13 skrev Christopher Smith:



On 2-Feb-07, at 6:53 AM, Stig Christensen wrote:


I'm still learning the Mac-Finale way.
Is there a shortcut for clear items, in the Mass Menu. The  
backspace key erases the content and the bars as well. The manual  
says Shift-Delete, but I'm not able to make this work. Will I need  
a custom made shortcut from IKey?


Is it possible that you are not using an American keyboard layout?  
I have my Mac set to use an American layout for Finale, and a  
French Canadian layout for when I need it. I have noticed that some  
keystrokes are not the same if I keep the French layout in FInale,  
so I use the American one.


But in any case, if you have a full keyboard (not a laptop layout)  
then the Delete key that is above the arrow keys, between the alpha  
keys and the numerical keys, will clear items.


But be careful, as it doesn't clear everything, like Measure  
Expressions. Even the menu item Clear Items... you can set it to  
clear Measure Attributes, for example, and it won't change the  
Break Multimeasure Rests settings in the selected measures. This  
has caught me several times.


Christopher



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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

[David W. Fenton]

On 2 Feb 2007 at 8:22, Phil Daley wrote:

> At 2/2/2007 08:00 AM, David W. Fenton wrote:
> 
>  >Of course, why one simply can't edit the permissions on these files
>  >manually to get around the problem, I can't say. I'd assume that
>  Phil >is knowledgable enough to have tried that.
> 
> Yes, even logging in as "administrator" did not fix the problem.

But that doesn't change permissions if the administrator group is not 
authorized to change those files. Did you log on as administrator and 
see what the permissions were? Did you attempt to take ownership of 
the files? These are the basic methods for dealing with permissions 
that have been set too strict, and I assume you did these, no?

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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

[Phil Daley]

At 2/2/2007 08:00 AM, David W. Fenton wrote:

>Of course, why one simply can't edit the permissions on these files
>manually to get around the problem, I can't say. I'd assume that Phil
>is knowledgable enough to have tried that.

Yes, even logging in as "administrator" did not fix the problem.

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Re: [Finale] Clear Items on Mac

[Christopher Smith]

On 2-Feb-07, at 6:53 AM, Stig Christensen wrote:


I'm still learning the Mac-Finale way.
Is there a shortcut for clear items, in the Mass Menu. The  
backspace key erases the content and the bars as well. The manual  
says Shift-Delete, but I'm not able to make this work. Will I need  
a custom made shortcut from IKey?


Is it possible that you are not using an American keyboard layout? I  
have my Mac set to use an American layout for Finale, and a French  
Canadian layout for when I need it. I have noticed that some  
keystrokes are not the same if I keep the French layout in FInale, so  
I use the American one.


But in any case, if you have a full keyboard (not a laptop layout)  
then the Delete key that is above the arrow keys, between the alpha  
keys and the numerical keys, will clear items.


But be careful, as it doesn't clear everything, like Measure  
Expressions. Even the menu item Clear Items... you can set it to  
clear Measure Attributes, for example, and it won't change the Break  
Multimeasure Rests settings in the selected measures. This has caught  
me several times.


Christopher



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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

[David W. Fenton]

On 2 Feb 2007 at 6:18, dhbailey wrote:

> dhbailey wrote:
> > Ken Moore wrote:
> >> "David W. Fenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> But why do you need to edit those? Don't your
> >>> applications provide UIs for changing their settings?
> >>
> >> Please will you tell me the place in the WinFin 2004 UI that allows
> >> me to set the size of the handle square.
> > 
> > Oh, well now you want to get down to the picky little details, huh? 
> > ;-)
> 
> I did want to point out that MakeMusic have finally included that
> option in the Program Options dialogue (Finale2007) although I don't
> know when they added it.  It is certainly missing in Fin2004.

I think in my first reply I missed Ken's point. I would say that any 
application that does *not* supply a user interface for user-
configurable settings is very poorly designed. 

Second, apps that don't put those settings files in the OS-defined 
appropriate location are also poorly designed.

Phil's complaint suggests that there are apps that put their settings 
in an OS-appropriate location and that those settings files cannot be 
edited in Vista. Somehow, I doubt that both of those things can 
actually be true. What I believe is more likely is that a location 
that was formerly defined as appropriate for user settings has been 
redefined in Vista as *not* appropriate.

Of course, why one simply can't edit the permissions on these files 
manually to get around the problem, I can't say. I'd assume that Phil 
is knowledgable enough to have tried that.

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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

[David W. Fenton]

On 2 Feb 2007 at 8:16, Ken Moore wrote:

> "David W. Fenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > But why do you need to edit those? Don't your
> > applications provide UIs for changing their settings?
> 
> Please will you tell me the place in the WinFin 2004 UI 
> that allows me to set the size of the handle square.

I would like to know that, myself. Back in Finale 2.x days, I had 
mine edited to be *smaller* than the default, because I was then 
working at very low resolution (i.e., very large onscreen display), 
but now I'd like it larger since I'm working at a much higher 
resolution. But I don't know how I ever changed it in the first 
place.

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[Finale] Clear Items on Mac

[Stig Christensen]

I'm still learning the Mac-Finale way.
Is there a shortcut for clear items, in the Mass Menu. The backspace  
key erases the content and the bars as well. The manual says Shift- 
Delete, but I'm not able to make this work. Will I need a custom made  
shortcut from IKey?


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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

[Christopher Smith]

On Feb 2, 2007, at 3:16 AM, Ken Moore wrote:



Please will you tell me the place in the WinFin 2004 UI that allows  
me to set the size of the handle square.


I don't know about WinFin 2004, but FinMac 2006 has this under  
Program Options>Edit>Movable Items>Handle Size. My default is 8  
pixels, though I guess you want it to be bigger.


Christopher



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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

[dhbailey]

dhbailey wrote:

Ken Moore wrote:

"David W. Fenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


But why do you need to edit those? Don't your
applications provide UIs for changing their settings?


Please will you tell me the place in the WinFin 2004 UI that allows me 
to set the size of the handle square.




Oh, well now you want to get down to the picky little details, huh?  ;-)



I did want to point out that MakeMusic have finally included that option 
in the Program Options dialogue (Finale2007) although I don't know when 
they added it.  It is certainly missing in Fin2004.


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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

[dhbailey]

Ken Moore wrote:

"David W. Fenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


But why do you need to edit those? Don't your
applications provide UIs for changing their settings?


Please will you tell me the place in the WinFin 2004 UI that allows me 
to set the size of the handle square.




Oh, well now you want to get down to the picky little details, huh?  ;-)

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[Finale] OT Language [was: Vista (?)]

[Ken Moore]

"David W. Fenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

A friend of mine who is a linguist (and one of the main > contributors to the eggcorn database) says that brain 
studies have shown that we actually store words in our 
brains by sound rather than by spelling, so that is the 
reason this happens -- "use" and "youth" are likely 
stored very close together in your brain's language 
centers, so it's not surprising that it sometimes 
misfires and pulls out the wrong one.


and fluent readers turn written words into sound* to access this
store, which is why the popular "balanced literacy" (US) and
"mixed methods" (UK) that purport to teach children how to
read allow 20% to 30% to fail. Recognizing the words without
turning them into internal sound has to happen in the right brain.
To connect these patterns to their meanings then requires a
separate database which typically runs out of capacity
somewhere between 1500 and 3000 words.

* ISTR  that being able to read without actually saying the
words was regarded as a major intellectual achievement
in the Middle Ages.

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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

[Ken Moore]

"David W. Fenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


But why do you need to edit those? Don't your
applications provide UIs for changing their settings?


Please will you tell me the place in the WinFin 2004 UI 
that allows me to set the size of the handle square.


--

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