Re: [Finale] drum paer

2007-04-05 Thread John Howell

At 11:00 PM -0700 4/1/07, Bob Florence wrote:
To you who are jazz composers/arrangers: how long would take you to 
create a good drum part in Finale? I'm thinking od the length to be 
somewhere 400 bars.

For me this is the most difficult chore.


For me it would be the simplest chore of all.  I would never attempt 
to 2nd guess or micromanage a good drummer, just to give a general 
outline.


[Disclaimer:  most of my work has been in commercial music, as 
distinct from jazz, but the same thing applies.]


John


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[Finale] Chord symbol fonts

2007-04-05 Thread George Ports
How can I set the suffix fonts in chord symbols to show a flat to look like b  
instead of b? Is there an easy way to do the same when describing a note such 
as: this note is a b5?
I'm using Times new roman for the text (in general). 

Is there a way to change all that I've done so farglobally?
I'm using winfin 2006.
Thanks for any help,
George Ports
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Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts

2007-04-05 Thread Christopher Smith


On 5-Apr-07, at 9:56 AM, George Ports wrote:

How can I set the suffix fonts in chord symbols to show a flat to  
look like b  instead of b? Is there an easy way to do the same when  
describing a note such as: this note is a b5?

I'm using Times new roman for the text (in general).

Is there a way to change all that I've done so farglobally?


Suffixes (suffices?) are created individually (though all instances  
of say, m7(b5) will probably be the same suffix) so you have to edit  
the suffixes in the Chord Suffix editor.


Chord Tool
Chord Menu>Manual Input, double click on a chord symbol's handle.
Click Show Advanced, then down under Definition click Suffix - Edit.
Each character is edited individually, so step through by hitting  
Next until you get to the b. Change it to 5, hit Number and Prefix  
with Flat.

Hit Next again and change the 5 to the right parenthesis.
Hit Next again and delete the former right parenthesis. Strangely,  
you can't delete the b and then edit the 5 to include the flat, as  
once you delete a character strange things happen to the next  
characters.
Alter the positioning as you wish by dragging the tiny little handle  
in the tiny little box, curse loudly, write an abusive email to  
MakeMusic about how complex this whole procedure is, and OK your way  
back to the score. All the m7(b5) chords in the score will now  
contain the edit.

Repeat for the next suffix, including the cursing and emails.

Christopher


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Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts

2007-04-05 Thread Mike Greensill

Why isn't there a direct link to the Chord Suffix editor?

Mike Greensill

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Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts

2007-04-05 Thread Christopher Smith


On 5-Apr-07, at 11:39 AM, Mike Greensill wrote:


Why isn't there a direct link to the Chord Suffix editor?


Just what I've been asking since about Finale 97. Especially when you  
get the message "Could not find the suffix. Do you want to create  
it?" and then you DON'T get the Chord Suffix selection dialogue box  
with the Delete, Edit, Create, etc. buttons where you could copy and  
edit an existing one. Also if you are typing into score and you hit F: 
0 to choose a suffix, but don't find it, the Edit, Delete, Copy,  
Create, etc. buttons are NOT present in that dialogue box, even  
though it has the same name as the dialogue box that DOES have those  
buttons!


The Chord Suffix Editor is a fussy, hard-to-use mess, and the only  
reason it hasn't been touched is that only advanced jazz musicians  
need anything other than the basic suffixes that are provided, and we  
are a minority.


I sent in a long (LONG!) list of complaints about this tool to the  
friendly folks at MakeMusic a couple of years ago, but haven't heard  
anything, nor seen anything different since then.


Please complain about this (as well as the horrifying bug where chord  
symbols don't transpose when Chromatic (no key signature)  
transposition is selected) in great detail, because this is the only  
way they will pay attention.


Christopher



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Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts

2007-04-05 Thread Chuck Israels
Indeed, this has been a bugaboo for years, and only constant carping  
and complaining will get MM's attention.


The available defense for advanced jazz chord symbol users is to  
spend time (a lot of time, unfortunately) creating the chord suffixes  
you like, saving them as a library and then loading them into new  
documents with empty chord libraries.


I don't know the status of the Bill Duncan material, but those of us  
who were lucky enough to have bought his chord font are ahead of the  
game in this department.  I hope that Nick and Vince are still  
pursuing Bill's sister for distribution access to the material.   
Until then, much as we'd like to make it generally available, there  
are legal and ethical obstacles to doing so.


Of course, you still have to go through Finale's chord suffix editor  
to change anything you don't like in Bill's suffixes but, for me, the  
need to do that is rare.


Chuck


On Apr 5, 2007, at 9:50 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:



On 5-Apr-07, at 11:39 AM, Mike Greensill wrote:


Why isn't there a direct link to the Chord Suffix editor?


Just what I've been asking since about Finale 97. Especially when  
you get the message "Could not find the suffix. Do you want to  
create it?" and then you DON'T get the Chord Suffix selection  
dialogue box with the Delete, Edit, Create, etc. buttons where you  
could copy and edit an existing one. Also if you are typing into  
score and you hit F:0 to choose a suffix, but don't find it, the  
Edit, Delete, Copy, Create, etc. buttons are NOT present in that  
dialogue box, even though it has the same name as the dialogue box  
that DOES have those buttons!


The Chord Suffix Editor is a fussy, hard-to-use mess, and the only  
reason it hasn't been touched is that only advanced jazz musicians  
need anything other than the basic suffixes that are provided, and  
we are a minority.


I sent in a long (LONG!) list of complaints about this tool to the  
friendly folks at MakeMusic a couple of years ago, but haven't  
heard anything, nor seen anything different since then.


Please complain about this (as well as the horrifying bug where  
chord symbols don't transpose when Chromatic (no key signature)  
transposition is selected) in great detail, because this is the  
only way they will pay attention.


Christopher



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